Board 8 > Politics Topic 86: Hawaii, Where Everything's Made Up And The Votes Don't Matter

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Wanglicious
04/23/17 11:41:55 PM
#403:


ah. understood, then.
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Jacen_SoIo
04/23/17 11:41:56 PM
#404:


Oh yeah? So it makes you upset to hear about it? Well guess what, I was EXTREMELY upset about what you said. It fucked me up for a few hours straight because reminding a depressed person of their suicidal tendencies is something you never do, EVER, EVER TO ANYONE. It's the thing you cope with and work through and never want to have to think about because it's a monster always lurking in the back of your mind. And you made light of it, basically called it a joke, and tried to use it to win a goddamn internet argument.
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LapisLazuli
04/23/17 11:42:12 PM
#405:


Wanglicious posted...
i didn't expect that the r-word to be such a big deal to him. maybe i just don't pay enough attention to that sort of thing.


It isn't ACTUALLY a big deal to him, it's just another opportunity he grabbed to pretend he wasn't the biggest asshole in an argument. People have used it in the past and he did not care, this one was just another move of his to try and build up his character. As you can see, Machete unfortunately fell for it pretty hard.

He's now going to insult MY character in an attempt to deny this, but that's just how it is, and I don't really care what he has to say in that regard. He's predictable and tired.
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Jacen_SoIo
04/23/17 11:42:16 PM
#406:


I don't care what the PMs say. I know what you said here.
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MariaTaylor
04/23/17 11:47:34 PM
#407:


Wanglicious posted...
there's another commonly used meme picture, which i'm positive has been posted here multiple times before (as in, in this topic series) where there's a guy that's literally shitting everywhere anytime people try to have a discussion and people just... move on elsewhere and ignore the guy.

that's the meme picture i think that mostly represents the sentiments of the people that are tired of Ulti in these topics.


based on my lengthy exposure of one entire weekend in these topics I wouldn't say I feel this way at all. ignore him? they treat the guy like fucking voldemort, honestly. oh my god don't say his name don't respond to him why are we responding to him!!!! over and over and over again desperately pleading for no one to acknowledge the ulti because allowing him to speak is dangerous I guess. it's honestly really sad from an outsider perspective.

and here I'll save you the trouble
'lmao kissing ulti's ass'
'only defending ulti because you are a conservative'
'thank you for your irrelevant opinion'

but seriously there is a small part of me that hopes even one person might read this and look at their own behavior because

like

I don't know if I've ever seen people on the internet get this angry and defensive over the fact that a person exists in their vicinity.

this cannot be mentally healthy for you guys

that being said I don't think I'll stick around to find out. I've pretty much had my fill of this topic at this point. 'call someone retarded and then when I get moderated double down and continue to try and make them look like the bad guy' is about my limit for what I'm willing to associate myself with.
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MariaTaylor
04/23/17 11:50:07 PM
#409:


and wang if you have anything to say to me in response to that feel free to PM me

forgot to say that,

but this is really the last time I'll be clicking on this topic
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LapisLazuli
04/23/17 11:53:22 PM
#410:


Maria, we tried for years to give this guy a pass, and he just kept getting worse and worse. It's not even just here, the guy has done some shitty real world stuff as well, which is impossible to bring up because he always gets mods he knows to delete it ASAP. This isn't a case of some guy we just disagree with, this is over a decade of just being a truly awful person, and just having to give up. it's not like we can suddenly start taking Alex Jones seriously and saying he's a great guy. I'm not even saying his name right now to lower modding chances.
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StealThisSheen
04/23/17 11:56:33 PM
#412:


He's the type of guy that constantly goes "I have no tolerance for personal attacks and will mark them," yet one of his first attacks on Jakyl wasn't on his view points or logic, but instead going blatantly personal

Frankly, the guy deserves no respect whatsoever

I do agree the response is kind of out of hand and we need to just ignore him, however
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Wanglicious
04/23/17 11:57:41 PM
#413:


MariaTaylor posted...

based on my lengthy exposure of one entire weekend in these topics I wouldn't say I feel this way at all. ignore him? they treat the guy like fucking voldemort, honestly. oh my god don't say his name don't respond to him why are we responding to him!!!! over and over and over again desperately pleading for no one to acknowledge the ulti because allowing him to speak is dangerous I guess. it's honestly really sad from an outsider perspective.


having been in these topics from the start, it's equally confusing to me.
this doesn't even rank in the top ulti moments in the topic series by the way. there was a split timeline moment where multiple topics were made and there was the Ulti topic and the other one. that met with reconciliation with the fact that if it's containment then it needs to contain him as well, otherwise it's not doing its job. this back and forth of hating Ulti, ignoring him, responding to him, and him playing his part to further it (the idea of new alts being made to get around those ignoring seems pretty legit) as they keep going through this love-to-hate sequence is... a thing.

personally, if i don't value what somebody regularly says then i just... don't usually respond. others will, let them have their conversation, reach the same conclusion, and keep doing it. sometimes something of value will go through, often it won't, that's fine.

<_< but i've seen a topic and a half get full because people were arguing with MWC to no end, so i've given up on that logic ever working. it's a topic series full of masochism, yes. it's even been stopped twice because of that, i think. then came back because if there's no containment topic it spreads on the rest of the board.


edit:
oh, whoops.
well hey, until next time.
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LapisLazuli
04/23/17 11:59:17 PM
#415:


Also, him and Tim made up some story about me being a pedophile to make me look bad. Not even some post they were trying to manipulate, they just straight-up made it up out of nowhere as a character attack. Real stand-up guy.
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Jacen_SoIo
04/24/17 12:00:28 AM
#417:


Yeah? You sure believed me when I said that I wasn't actually calling anyone 'the word'. What Wang said is pretty accurate - it was an image about someone coming in, shitting up a topic, and acting all coy about it. That's how I viewed it (the word didn't remotely factor into intent) but uh apparently I'm supposed to bow down to your moral high ground when you've done worse?

I mean, if an image that wasn't actually calling people 'the word' (from my perspective) upsets people that much, sure. I do think people misunderstand me but I'll adjust my perspective because some people obviously thought differently. I don't think you're going to do something similar at all.

This is completely ignoring the fact that most people have been called numerous horrendous things in this topic series (myself included) and this is the first time it's apparently warranted a mod crusade.

And for the record, you never sent me any PMs after you said what you did in this topic series.
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LapisLazuli
04/24/17 12:01:42 AM
#419:


UltimaterializerX posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
It's not even just here, the guy has done some shitty real world stuff as well, which is impossible to bring up because he always gets mods he knows to delete it ASAP.

Oh you mean like telling a girl Dr Pizza was stalking that he was literally stalking her before problems escalated? Yeah what a terrible thing to do lmao


No, I mean how you used to abuse your wife, or how more likely you pretended to abuse you're wife because you thought it made you look cool. Either one's kind of shity.
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StealThisSheen
04/24/17 12:01:48 AM
#420:


Wanglicious posted...
and him playing his part to further it (the idea of new alts being made to get around those ignoring seems pretty legit)


This certainly doesn't help, though. Out of sight, out of mind is one thing... But when he's purposely making alts to get around the ignore list, then it's obviously tougher to do so
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Wanglicious
04/24/17 12:02:28 AM
#421:


the twitter links i'm guilty of doing at times (mostly when there's breaking news of some kind) but it's pretty out of hand, yeah. the cycle of twitter link with something snarky -> circle jerk around it -> another twitter link, repeat? that one is kinda silly.
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Jacen_SoIo
04/24/17 12:05:28 AM
#423:


This topic has been twitter links for the last week because no big news has happened outside of healthcare being held hostage, which - while major - hasn't come to a head yet. This topic series is very active when stuff is actually happening.
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Jacen_SoIo
04/24/17 12:07:14 AM
#426:


The French election is fucked up but it also hasn't come to a head yet. There's not much left to discuss about that.
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LapisLazuli
04/24/17 12:07:57 AM
#428:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I'm sorry but lolicon is pedophilia to me. That is some fucking weirdo shit.

I guess it's better than being into real life kids, but I'm never changing my mind on that one.


No, see, this is the part you made up. And you, someone INFURIATED by fake character attacks, are continuing to do it!

It's why you aren't someone whose opinion matters, B8's biggest hypocrite.
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Suprak the Stud
04/24/17 12:11:49 AM
#430:


What the hell happened here.

I just want to talk politics, people. I JUST WANT TO TALK POLITICS
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LapisLazuli
04/24/17 12:13:13 AM
#433:


The statements made by Ulti were thus. I actually no longer believe them, but they're gross regardless, and stood out because I thought he was awesome up until this point.

Ulti used to fuck other women while his wife was home. Not an issue in and of itself of its something the couple is into, swinging is common. The issue was that when his wife ever had an issue with it or said she wanted to sleep with other men as well, be would lock her out of the house until he apologized.

I don't believe this at all. I think this was 200....6, 7? Ulti trying to be an "Alpha Male", and the environment back then on this board might have allowed for it. But....like, I was pretty naive then, but it was still very shocking. Here was the boards biggest cool guy admitting to being a disgusting person. It affected me.
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LapisLazuli
04/24/17 12:14:43 AM
#434:


UltimaterializerX posted...
You were all over those topics in the 2006 era defending lolicon, along with the rest of the comic/anime people. Don't even try.


Simply not true. Don't have any way to back that up, but the difference between you and me is that I don't really care at all. Nobody is buying it, why get up in arms? It's just more ammo for you being hypocritical trash, it's only doing me a favor. So, please continue to do so.
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Wanglicious
04/24/17 12:20:50 AM
#436:


Suprak the Stud posted...
What the hell happened here.

I just want to talk politics, people. I JUST WANT TO TALK POLITICS


TOO BAD
THIS TOPIC'S ABOUT LOLICON NOW

french election secondary.
(don't make it about lolicon, french election is more interesting since the left wing had a massive loss and the centrist who's with the banks is likely to win.)
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LapisLazuli
04/24/17 12:21:42 AM
#437:


To be clear, I'm not look for an apology for anything in regards to your statements, or a correction, or a rollback. Like, you're done. You don't get to to be as viable poster to me again. There's no getting back on my good side or redemption, feel free to continue being yourself.

And the best part is you do care.
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ChaosTonyV4
04/24/17 12:22:32 AM
#438:


Oh hey guys--

cMWalaal
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LapisLazuli
04/24/17 12:22:41 AM
#439:


Wanglicious posted...
Suprak the Stud posted...
What the hell happened here.

I just want to talk politics, people. I JUST WANT TO TALK POLITICS


TOO BAD
THIS TOPIC'S ABOUT LOLICON NOW

french election secondary.
(don't make it about lolicon, french election is more interesting since the left wing had a massive loss and the centrist who's with the banks is likely to win.)


French people sure do love their naked underage girls in film
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Suprak the Stud
04/24/17 12:23:18 AM
#440:


What's interesting is the traditional left and right both got embarrassed. Neither made it through to the second round.

It is an independent centrist and far right nationalist. This is actually probably the worst draw Le Pen could've had, I think. This was like everyone's second choice guy from what I've seen because he was basically inoffensive to just about everyone.
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Suprak the Stud
04/24/17 12:24:20 AM
#441:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Oh hey guys--

cMWalaal


My reaction, but only there is more fire and the fire is yelling at each other about lolicon.
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LapisLazuli
04/24/17 12:28:14 AM
#442:


I meam, that's the implication already, isn't it?
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Wanglicious
04/24/17 12:30:31 AM
#443:


Suprak the Stud posted...
What's interesting is the traditional left and right both got embarrassed. Neither made it through to the second round.

It is an independent centrist and far right nationalist. This is actually probably the worst draw Le Pen could've had, I think. This was like everyone's second choice guy from what I've seen because he was basically inoffensive to just about everyone.


it is. even though it should be closer than polling data indicates, the gap is 60-40. the right is generally okay with the results i think, whereas the left has been busy rioting because they got nothing they wanted. the traditional parties have been completely broken for the first time and that's going to be a big deal for future elections.
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DeathChicken
04/24/17 12:32:05 AM
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Yeah, Le Pen is polling something like 20% behind Macron and a chunk of her own base is basically going "Hey guys let's really not do this". She only has the support of the wingnuts and that doesn't look like it'll be nearly enough
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VintageGin
04/24/17 12:55:10 AM
#446:


LTM, you have abuse thing the wrong way around.

But more importantly

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who wants my nuts

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Kenri
04/24/17 12:59:34 AM
#447:


VintageGin posted...
LTM, you have abuse thing the wrong way around.

i'm pretty sure it was both ways but ulti's such a fucking constant liar that who knows

he's probably actually never had a wife at all
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DeathChicken
04/24/17 1:03:29 AM
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That or taking projection to its logical conclusion, she's cheating on him while he beats off in a corner and cries. But eh
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LapisLazuli
04/24/17 1:04:20 AM
#449:


VintageGin posted...
LTM, you have abuse thing the wrong way around


No, the other thing was recent. I never saw that topic.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/24/17 1:27:36 AM
#450:


LapisLazuli posted...
I meam


god damn right you do
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/24/17 1:28:33 AM
#451:


DeathChicken posted...
That or taking projection to its logical conclusion, she's cheating on him while he beats off in a corner and cries. But eh


this literally only happens on Chappelle's Show
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/24/17 1:30:47 AM
#452:


Kenri posted...

i'm pretty sure ulti's such a fucking wife


lololololololol me too
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