Board 8 > Politics Topic 86: Hawaii, Where Everything's Made Up And The Votes Don't Matter

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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/21/17 8:08:20 PM
#101:


Jakyl25 posted...
Jeff Sessions probably thinks people on 4/20 got stoned to death.


It is pretty sad though when someone overdoses from taking too many dosages of marijuanas. All those families torn apart just because of a holiday...
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Wanglicious
04/21/17 8:10:08 PM
#102:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Different people have different page settings, so what is "page 7" to you might be an entirely different page to someone else.


page 7/10 then.
it's... the first time the topic comes up. the issue of the left's awkward defense and the difference between criticizing Islam (a religion) and Muslims (people) are the two subjects which repeatedly come out.
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Because religious people, by default, openly and willingly change when you explain to them the faults of their current beliefs and ideologies...


that's why i've said it's something that'll take multiple generations. in the meantime, those voices from within who are critical should be supported by the left, not silenced or shunned. a few do, many don't, hence the problem i have.

and mind you, for something as institutionalized and conservative as Islam, even saying "hey, something in here is wrong" can easily be viewed as a massive insult. often that'd mean that either Allah is wrong or Mohammad didn't live the way one should live. both have a high potential of ending badly. that just needs to gradually be worn down continuously by arguing for and pushing better ideas.
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Wanglicious
04/21/17 8:21:11 PM
#104:


oh right.
not once in the topics did i say islam was evil.

that was on purpose.
same reason why every post where i'm critical i point out that i'm talking about certain ideas or practices within it, not the religion as a whole.

i'm not a fan of crossing the bridge where the entire religion is called evil. that just also doesn't mean you simply ignore the parts of it which are morally repulsive or inhumane. be critical of the bad, support the good.
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Eddv
04/21/17 8:28:36 PM
#105:


Wanglicious posted...
that's not answering how i'm "all over the place on it" considering i've never been on it at all as... i never mentioned saudi arabia. i mean you def know more of the history there, i'm not doubting that. but it's not getting into my issue of how the left doesn't tackle this head on.


No one does.

Trunp is still going to prop up saudi arabia so nothing else he does really matters.
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StealThisSheen
04/21/17 11:13:49 PM
#107:


UltimaterializerX posted...
https://i.redditmedia.com/i2riYRjOAl89cOC2G0Trb6CLz25X8Diei2YqO-aW_-8.png?w=655&s=f282797ec05090fb0d4193581c1294e5

Imagine.

My.

Shock.


Just to be clear, what do you think that's saying?
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ChaosTonyV4
04/21/17 11:22:12 PM
#108:


Wanglicious posted...
...also you again are dialing it back to Muslims and their countries when the issue raised in the first place is how the left refuses to address issues of certain negative religious practices found within Islam. you have yet to tackle that very specific concern.

you're going after everything else but that.


Did you ever address why people make a big deal of it in the United States, when Muslims have come to this country and safely integrated (aka, thrown out the nasty parts of Islam) for generations?
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Jakyl25
04/21/17 11:35:35 PM
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Jakyl25
04/21/17 11:53:17 PM
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lordloki12
04/22/17 12:05:42 AM
#111:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/854983136836333568


It's a shame somebody didn't get in his ear and tell him some of those tourists could have stayed at Trump hotels. The threat of a little lost income might have been enough keep him from damaging our reputation and that portion of our economy.
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Paratroopa1
04/22/17 12:06:18 AM
#112:


Shit, it's almost like globalism has upsides.
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Not_an_Owl
04/22/17 12:18:43 AM
#113:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Shit, it's almost like globalism has upsides.

or like rabid nationalism has downsides
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LapisLazuli
04/22/17 12:29:23 AM
#114:


UltimaterializerX posted...
https://i.redditmedia.com/i2riYRjOAl89cOC2G0Trb6CLz25X8Diei2YqO-aW_-8.png?w=655&s=f282797ec05090fb0d4193581c1294e5

Imagine.

My.

Shock.


Either this is just you posting what you know is non news again, or you're doubling down on your trait of not reading the links you post.
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Kenri
04/22/17 2:08:59 AM
#115:


My least favorite thing about that snippet is the phrase "less than within 24 hours", implying that the decision happened somehow outside of chronology itself.
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Suprak the Stud
04/22/17 2:11:10 AM
#116:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Shit, it's almost like globalism has upsides.


ya sure then why are the globalists turning the frogs gay?
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Suprak the Stud
04/22/17 2:12:21 AM
#117:


Jakyl25 posted...
Entry: Dramatic Irony
Definition: https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/855495474396237825


I sincerely hope the media treats him with as much respect as he showed the parents of the Sandy Hook tragedy.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/22/17 2:52:24 AM
#118:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Paratroopa1 posted...
Shit, it's almost like globalism has upsides.


ya sure then why are the globalists turning the frogs gay?


If you've ever watched performances of gay frogs, you would not be asking this.
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Peace___Frog
04/22/17 7:52:21 AM
#119:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Entry: Dramatic Irony
Definition: https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/855495474396237825


I sincerely hope the media treats him with as much respect as he showed the parents of the Sandy Hook tragedy.

I for one hope that he is pestered daily with reminders that his kids are merely actors and are not actually his offspring.
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scarletspeed7
04/22/17 12:05:45 PM
#120:


I got pretty triggered today by some 50 year old woman's comment on an article about Pence's trip to Australia. She essentially was railing against Obama because Obama wouldn't take his children on foreign trips and Pence did.

I'm like, THIS is what you feel the need to waste your time on? This is what gets you out of your midday drunken haze at your middling financial accounting firm? The entire reasoning behind Pence's trip, his comments, the effect they may have, the relationship with Australia and the US... none of that matters. The fact that Obama wouldn't take his kids on a diplomatic visit to Australia is what gets you up in arms.

I just don't fucking get it. I really don't.
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Not_an_Owl
04/22/17 1:17:27 PM
#121:


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/to-scare-dems-trump-threatens-to-light-himself-on-fire

Donald Trump is a self-aggrandizing con man doofus with no idea how government works or how to govern.
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DeathChicken
04/22/17 1:25:06 PM
#122:


He could literally unleash Captain Trips on the public and Republicans would dance to their graves because liberals were dying too
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/22/17 2:08:40 PM
#123:


He threatened to light himself on fire? That sounds awesome.
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scarletspeed7
04/22/17 2:09:49 PM
#124:


Actual pic of Trump on fire:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/torment/images/a/ad/Ignus_NPC.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120820025840
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JDPizza
04/22/17 5:34:56 PM
#125:


Trump is the Draven of American national politics.

Can't say I don't have just a bit of schadenfreude though. >_>
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red13n
04/22/17 6:10:31 PM
#126:


Wait we are actually still trying to pay for the wall? lol.
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KamikazePotato
04/22/17 6:21:48 PM
#127:


Not_an_Owl posted...
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/to-scare-dems-trump-threatens-to-light-himself-on-fire

Really? C’mon. Can the Trump White House be this legislatively inept? This self-deluding? Of course, they can. It’s an empirical reality we see everyday. It’s how we got to three months into the administration with no major legislation at all getting passed. With any other White House we’d need to posit some grounded strategy. Here positing that goes against really all evidence.

Savage
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JDPizza
04/22/17 7:25:56 PM
#129:


KamikazePotato posted...
It’s how we got to three months into the administration with no major legislation at all getting passed.

I'd hate to side with Trump, but this is a feature, not a bug. >_>
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SupremeZero
04/22/17 7:30:48 PM
#130:


JDPizza posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
It’s how we got to three months into the administration with no major legislation at all getting passed.

I'd hate to side with Trump, but this is a feature, not a bug. >_>

Oh.

Yeah.

That's absolutely a feature, he didn't want to repeal Obamacare anyway.
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Jakyl25
04/22/17 8:02:38 PM
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KamikazePotato
04/22/17 8:05:28 PM
#132:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/evepeyser/status/855874002530729985

I retract my 'Savage' comment from my previous post. The standards for savagery just got raised.
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Kenri
04/23/17 1:14:26 AM
#133:


JDPizza posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
It’s how we got to three months into the administration with no major legislation at all getting passed.

I'd hate to side with Trump, but this is a feature, not a bug. >_>

I mean maybe for you personally, but Trump definitely wasn't running on a platform of small government.
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LordoftheMorons
04/23/17 1:18:10 AM
#134:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/evepeyser/status/855874002530729985

This is a terrible take

Those things are bad, but they don't come anywhere near the evil of Assad.
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Not_an_Owl
04/23/17 1:19:25 AM
#135:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/evepeyser/status/855874002530729985

This is a terrible take

Those things are bad, but they don't come anywhere near the evil of Assad.

"those things are bad but not bad enough to actually do anything about"
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Suprak the Stud
04/23/17 1:28:24 AM
#136:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/evepeyser/status/855874002530729985

This is a terrible take

Those things are bad, but they don't come anywhere near the evil of Assad.


^

This is really shitty and minimizes what happened in Syria
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LordoftheMorons
04/23/17 1:33:10 AM
#138:


I don't "want a war" unless there's a winning strategy (which seems pretty doubtful under Trump). But anybody defending Assad can go and fuck off.

(To be clear, I'm not accusing Jakyl of that, but I've seen some alt right people/Russia apologists claiming that he's not so bad)
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Kenri
04/23/17 1:46:31 AM
#140:


LordoftheMorons posted...
(To be clear, I'm not accusing Jakyl of that, but I've seen some alt right people/Russia apologists claiming that he's not so bad)

You can just say you're talking about Vlado.
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Suprak the Stud
04/23/17 1:58:34 AM
#141:


Kenri posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
(To be clear, I'm not accusing Jakyl of that, but I've seen some alt right people/Russia apologists claiming that he's not so bad)

You can just say you're talking about Vlado.


Hey that's not fair.

psaltery also is very pro Assad.

There's two crazy people here.
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StealThisSheen
04/23/17 2:01:29 AM
#142:


I apologize to all to all of you for attempting to give Ulti a chance again for the last few weeks

That will not be happening anymore.
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VintageGin
04/23/17 4:49:56 AM
#146:


who wants my nuts
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MoogleKupo141
04/23/17 5:27:14 AM
#147:


Shareblue


I don't even know what this one is
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UItimaterializer
04/23/17 5:31:47 AM
#148:


It's David Brock's version of "alt left". That's the best description I got.

https://twitter.com/prisonplanet/status/855948379687342080

I fucking love Bill Mahr. If every democrat acted like him we'd be in such better shape.
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LapisLazuli
04/23/17 9:19:13 AM
#149:


lol Ulti
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metroid composite
04/23/17 10:17:34 AM
#150:


UltimaterializerX posted...
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/48675

I was squinting at that graph, thought it looked a little strange given that scientific data usually isn't this nice flat smooth line.

Did a google search for "co2 and temperature graph wikipedia", somehow found this instead which actually addresses that specific graph:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2014/03/can-we-make-better-graphs-of-global-temperature-history/comment-page-2/

Long story short, the graph there did come from a scientific paper, but the temperature graph there isn't actually based on measured data. It's based on "are we in an ice age? OK, setting the global temperature to 10 degrees. Are we not in an ice age? OK, setting the global temperature to 25 degrees". It's not actually based on temperature measurements (and then the article spends a bunch of time talking about "let's try to make a temperature graph for that time period by using these measurements from different scientific teams").
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