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Gafemage
04/12/17 5:39:54 AM
#51:


God damn you people are vile.
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Rika_Furude
04/12/17 5:46:30 AM
#53:


m_mungmung posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
"Get over it" is a perfectly valid response to "i hate my job"

Yeah, but is it a perfectly valid response to someone diagnosed with depression?

Rika_Furude is perhaps one of the lowest people who posts here. If he has a problem with me saying that, he can just get over it.

At least im not a serial liar like you.
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FaultyGourry
04/12/17 5:54:03 AM
#55:


Minute posted...
Maybe not being an ignorant fucking asshole who makes people feel horrible about themselves just to win an argument about how I was "throwing my life away" by being clinically depressed.

After reading this, I think I have a general idea as to what this is all about. I'll just say this. How would you feel if your child told you they felt like killing themselves?
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MixedMartialArt
04/12/17 6:02:22 AM
#56:


Vicious Dios is an old school shitposter. Pay him no mind.
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jborgan
04/12/17 6:03:06 AM
#57:


Remember guys, if somebody is worse off than you, you're not allowed to complain or feel sad at all. Man up and deal with it.
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Spidey5
04/12/17 8:11:46 AM
#58:


Is this why you're a shit poster?
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DevsBro
04/12/17 8:39:58 AM
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Welcome to having mental problems.

"I don't have this problem, therefore ot doesn't exist."
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Vicious_Dios
04/12/17 8:40:54 AM
#61:


@everone who mentioned me

What, too real?

I'm sorry that I don't buy in to this whole victim-complex shtick. I swear some people just love to drown from a cup of water.
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PostCrisisJ2
04/12/17 8:41:47 AM
#62:


CE never fails to amaze me with its mind-numbing stupidity about mental illness, further exemplifying why this country has a major problem in regards to it. Could you imagine if that guy had a kid? Would probably be worse off than Squader's.

Someone said that Squadder hasn't even seen his kid for a long time so it's safe to assume that they're doing fine.

Suicidal thoughts are a bitch though. I used to have them a lot but for some reason they eventually stopped. I genuinely don't know why. Maybe something happened to my brain when I got older since they were pretty intense in my teenager years and throughout a lot of my 20s. "Getting over it" isn't really tough love, it's kinda useless for the one going through it. I mean, yeah, you can "power" through them but it doesn't solve the issue if you have them constantly. I think what kinda helped was this site:

https://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

Mainly the part that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem and about lack a lot of coping resources. I mean I guess you can say that I did "get over them" but I think I had a lot of privileges that helped me that a lot of people suffering don't have, so it's not really good advice to give. I definitely would have gotten some sort of help for them when I could.
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coolboy11
04/12/17 8:42:18 AM
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elderly wisdom isn't it grand
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Vicious_Dios
04/12/17 9:13:43 AM
#65:


Conflict posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
@everone who mentioned me

What, too real?

I'm sorry that I don't buy in to this whole victim-complex shtick. I swear some people just love to drown from a cup of water.


Lol @ "too real". Nah you're just incredibly slow and as stated before, I'll give your brain-dead posts a pass if you're still an underclassman in high school because nobody expects them to know anything about the real world, but if you're past that age and saying shit this dumb... cringe. Probably shouldn't be telling people "good luck" when you need it more than anyone else.


Huh... You're handling this rather quite well, worse than the TC, even.

Your fake outrage cries running to the defense of a person who doesn't need to be defended and pitiful attempts to shitpost at me have fallen on deaf ears. ('-' )
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SirDumass
04/12/17 9:19:55 AM
#66:


this is an all-too-common problem, but perhaps better than what my father said to me after threatening suicide several times in the past and doing it again.-youre already dead to me...a ticking time bomb.
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SirDumass
04/12/17 9:23:34 AM
#68:


Vicious_Dios posted...
Well, what did you expect him to say?

We're all eating a shit sandwich and we all have our own problems.


yeah and some of our problems make yours look like some pety bullshit.
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Vicious_Dios
04/12/17 9:27:42 AM
#69:


SirDumass posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
Well, what did you expect him to say?

We're all eating a shit sandwich and we all have our own problems.


yeah and some of our problems make yours look like some pety bullshit.


Who the fuck are you? Lol You don't know anything about me, but you go on ahead and keep reaching for those starry straws, SirDumass. :]
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SirDumass
04/12/17 9:31:14 AM
#70:


Vicious_Dios posted...
SirDumass posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
Well, what did you expect him to say?

We're all eating a shit sandwich and we all have our own problems.


yeah and some of our problems make yours look like some pety bullshit.


Who the fuck are you? Lol You don't know anything about me, but you go on ahead and keep reaching for those starry straws, SirDumass. :]

yeah

yeah, i dont know you. you are right. im just assuming anyone that makes a comment so ignorant, so blissfully unaware must know nothing about how severe a mental struggle could become. Of course i could be wrong, but in my case particularly im pretty damn sure im not lol.
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Vindris_SNH
04/12/17 9:35:39 AM
#71:


He's not wrong.
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Master_Bass
04/12/17 9:38:06 AM
#72:


Gafemage posted...
God damn you people are vile.

This is my thought too. Some of the posters in here are just awful.
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SirDumass
04/12/17 9:38:45 AM
#73:


i appologize again. i shouldnt have turned this into a pissing contest. there is no need forthat. but i caught you making an incredibly insensitive comment, and now ive offered my feedback as well into this topic. take care.
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ReignFury
04/12/17 9:39:23 AM
#74:


TC in these situations you have to find the root of these feelings
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GiftedACIII
04/12/17 9:39:31 AM
#75:


Vicious_Dios posted...
Conflict posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
@everone who mentioned me

What, too real?

I'm sorry that I don't buy in to this whole victim-complex shtick. I swear some people just love to drown from a cup of water.


Lol @ "too real". Nah you're just incredibly slow and as stated before, I'll give your brain-dead posts a pass if you're still an underclassman in high school because nobody expects them to know anything about the real world, but if you're past that age and saying shit this dumb... cringe. Probably shouldn't be telling people "good luck" when you need it more than anyone else.


Huh... You're handling this rather quite well, worse than the TC, even.

Your fake outrage cries running to the defense of a person who doesn't need to be defended and pitiful attempts to shitpost at me have fallen on deaf ears. ('-' )

Nah, he's just speaking the truth. For someone who prides themselves on being real you sure get butthurt whenever someone says it like it is about you.
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Fenrimis
04/12/17 9:48:49 AM
#76:


I feel like this isnt the place for this. Yeah, the majority of CE (myself included) have been depressed before but alot of us believe its all about just pushing through and trying to not feel sorry for yourself or you just stay in a cycle of allowing your depression to hold you back. My gf has crippling panic attacks (rare) that come out of nowhere, she could be laughing at a movie then all of a sudden get one and she cant breathe or talk at all. That eventually caused her to get depressed out of fear of getting her next panic attack. And us being nice to her and supporting her for months didnt help get her out of that state. Only thing that really helped was medication and that didnt kick in for a month. Therapy might work for some but didnt work for her or me at all. I believe the key is to just keep pushing through which sounds dumb as fuck but, to me, its the only thing you can do.
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Vicious_Dios
04/12/17 9:57:11 AM
#78:


GiftedACIII posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
Conflict posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
@everone who mentioned me

What, too real?

I'm sorry that I don't buy in to this whole victim-complex shtick. I swear some people just love to drown from a cup of water.


Lol @ "too real". Nah you're just incredibly slow and as stated before, I'll give your brain-dead posts a pass if you're still an underclassman in high school because nobody expects them to know anything about the real world, but if you're past that age and saying shit this dumb... cringe. Probably shouldn't be telling people "good luck" when you need it more than anyone else.


Huh... You're handling this rather quite well, worse than the TC, even.

Your fake outrage cries running to the defense of a person who doesn't need to be defended and pitiful attempts to shitpost at me have fallen on deaf ears. ('-' )

Nah, he's just speaking the truth. For someone who prides themselves on being real you sure get butthurt whenever someone says it like it is about you.


Wrong.

All he did was type out half-assed assumptions about me. <_<

Assumptions based without empirical evidence aren't facts, silly billy.
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XmasPikachu
04/12/17 9:57:51 AM
#79:


Minute posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
Well, what did you expect him to say?

We're all eating a shit sandwich and we all have our own problems.

Maybe not being an ignorant fucking asshole who makes people feel horrible about themselves just to win an argument about how I was "throwing my life away" by being clinically depressed.

Yeah, sure, people go through shit all the time, worse shit than I was going through. That doesn't mean that I "shouldn't have been depressed." You can't help "being depressed." It just happens in cases even where it has no place "being depressed." Why the fuck was Robin Williams depressed? He should have been happy and great! Fucking Robin Williams, what a lazy asshole, right? Just wanted to take the easy way out.


how do you know it's clinical depression? If it is, I'm sorry dude, it's not like you can help it :/
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Bumjuice001
04/12/17 9:59:52 AM
#80:


Should've at least told you do not make a mess.
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Coolppl Owns
04/12/17 10:03:53 AM
#82:


Rika_Furude posted...
Your father being blunt doesnt make him wrong


you might have problems yourself, ya anime sig gooby
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krazychao5
04/12/17 10:24:43 AM
#83:


I'm just going to leave this here. I choose no sides, but I am a firm believer (and it's proven science) that you can control your thoughts, conscious and subconscious. Your thoughts are turned into your feelings, and your feelings drive your actions. You know what your actions make up? Your character. So you can change yourself by changing the thoughts you think of.

Guess what, if you think bad/sad thoughts, it's going to affect your character! You will be a sad, miserable person, if that is all you think of. And this is what I am thinking of when people say to "push through" depression. You must consciously choose your thoughts, because that will cascade into who you become and what you do with your life.
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krazychao5
04/12/17 10:35:55 AM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
krazychao5 posted...
I'm just going to leave this here. I choose no sides, but I am a firm believer (and it's proven science) that you can control your thoughts, conscious and subconscious. Your thoughts are turned into your feelings, and your feelings drive your actions. You know what your actions make up? Your character. So you can change yourself by changing the thoughts you think of.

Guess what, if you think bad/sad thoughts, it's going to affect your character! You will be a sad, miserable person, if that is all you think of. And this is what I am thinking of when people say to "push through" depression. You must consciously choose your thoughts, because that will cascade into who you become and what you do with your life.

And you know what else is scientifically proven? That the level of control you have varies based on genetics, parental conditioning, society, and peers. So 2 people, born in completely different cultures and around completely different people, can take things completely differently. The issue I have with your statement is not that you are wrong, it's that you are intentionally leaving out the fine details, the journey, so-to-speak.



I think you mean I left out the self pitying stuff that allows people to distance themselves away from the problem. Giving away that power leads further into depression.

I'd suggest depressed people here to read 7 Habits of Successful people by Covey and Flow by Csikszentmihalyi (pronounced cheek-sent-me-high). Might just open up your brain to accepting that you and only you can control your life.

Also, here is a Ted Talks with Csikszentmihalyi.
https://www.ted.com/talks/mihaly_csikszentmihalyi_on_flow
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Vicious_Dios
04/12/17 10:41:54 AM
#86:


Conflict posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...

All he did was type out half-assed assumptions about me. <_<


You being ignorant about mental illness isn't an assumption when you post a dumbass statement acting as if it's supposed to operate like a light switch. You provided the evidence.


Kinda like what you've done throughout the topic this entire time?
You're going to have an uphill battle in trying to provide a substantial argument trying to prove otherwise.
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GiftedACIII
04/12/17 12:33:48 PM
#87:


Vicious_Dios posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
Conflict posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
@everone who mentioned me

What, too real?

I'm sorry that I don't buy in to this whole victim-complex shtick. I swear some people just love to drown from a cup of water.


Lol @ "too real". Nah you're just incredibly slow and as stated before, I'll give your brain-dead posts a pass if you're still an underclassman in high school because nobody expects them to know anything about the real world, but if you're past that age and saying shit this dumb... cringe. Probably shouldn't be telling people "good luck" when you need it more than anyone else.


Huh... You're handling this rather quite well, worse than the TC, even.

Your fake outrage cries running to the defense of a person who doesn't need to be defended and pitiful attempts to shitpost at me have fallen on deaf ears. ('-' )

Nah, he's just speaking the truth. For someone who prides themselves on being real you sure get butthurt whenever someone says it like it is about you.


Wrong.

All he did was type out half-assed assumptions about me. <_<

Assumptions based without empirical evidence aren't facts, silly billy.


Sorry, but you seem to have extremely awful reading comprehension too. He didn't make a single assumption in his post.
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Vicious_Dios
04/12/17 1:58:11 PM
#88:


GiftedACIII posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
Conflict posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
@everone who mentioned me

What, too real?

I'm sorry that I don't buy in to this whole victim-complex shtick. I swear some people just love to drown from a cup of water.


Lol @ "too real". Nah you're just incredibly slow and as stated before, I'll give your brain-dead posts a pass if you're still an underclassman in high school because nobody expects them to know anything about the real world, but if you're past that age and saying shit this dumb... cringe. Probably shouldn't be telling people "good luck" when you need it more than anyone else.


Huh... You're handling this rather quite well, worse than the TC, even.

Your fake outrage cries running to the defense of a person who doesn't need to be defended and pitiful attempts to shitpost at me have fallen on deaf ears. ('-' )

Nah, he's just speaking the truth. For someone who prides themselves on being real you sure get butthurt whenever someone says it like it is about you.


Wrong.

All he did was type out half-assed assumptions about me. <_<

Assumptions based without empirical evidence aren't facts, silly billy.


Sorry, but you seem to have extremely awful reading comprehension too. He didn't make a single assumption in his post.


He whom? Be very careful of your response.
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GiftedACIII
04/12/17 2:20:10 PM
#89:


Vicious_Dios posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
Conflict posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
@everone who mentioned me

What, too real?

I'm sorry that I don't buy in to this whole victim-complex shtick. I swear some people just love to drown from a cup of water.


Lol @ "too real". Nah you're just incredibly slow and as stated before, I'll give your brain-dead posts a pass if you're still an underclassman in high school because nobody expects them to know anything about the real world, but if you're past that age and saying shit this dumb... cringe. Probably shouldn't be telling people "good luck" when you need it more than anyone else.


Huh... You're handling this rather quite well, worse than the TC, even.

Your fake outrage cries running to the defense of a person who doesn't need to be defended and pitiful attempts to shitpost at me have fallen on deaf ears. ('-' )

Nah, he's just speaking the truth. For someone who prides themselves on being real you sure get butthurt whenever someone says it like it is about you.


Wrong.

All he did was type out half-assed assumptions about me. <_<

Assumptions based without empirical evidence aren't facts, silly billy.


Sorry, but you seem to have extremely awful reading comprehension too. He didn't make a single assumption in his post.


He whom? Be very careful of your response.


Um.... Conflict? Why should I be careful of my response lmao? You're not making sense anymore, just typing nonsense now?
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Vicious_Dios
04/12/17 2:27:07 PM
#90:


GiftedACIII posted...

Um.... Conflict?



Lol @ "too real". Nah you're just incredibly slow and as stated before, I'll give your brain-dead posts a pass if you're still an underclassman in high school because nobody expects them to know anything about the real world, but if you're past that age and saying shit this dumb... cringe. Probably shouldn't be telling people "good luck" when you need it more than anyone else.


Count them.


Why should I be careful of my response lmao?


To prevent yourself from looking astoundingly foolish. Too late.
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GiftedACIII
04/12/17 2:33:41 PM
#91:


Vicious_Dios posted...
GiftedACIII posted...

Um.... Conflict?



Lol @ "too real". Nah you're just incredibly slow and as stated before, I'll give your brain-dead posts a pass if you're still an underclassman in high school because nobody expects them to know anything about the real world, but if you're past that age and saying shit this dumb... cringe. Probably shouldn't be telling people "good luck" when you need it more than anyone else.


Count them.


Why should I be careful of my response lmao?


To prevent yourself from looking astoundingly foolish. Too late.


There's not a single assumption in there. Bold the sentences that are assumptions. And lol, I'm not the one everyone's calling a shitposter
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darkphoenix181
04/12/17 2:35:48 PM
#92:


Minute posted...
Yeah f***ing Robin Williams right? What a f***ing douchestick, just killing himself, didn't he know how good he had it?


Robin Williams didn't suicide because of depression:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/03/robin-williams-disintegrating-before-suicide-widow-says


And a thing to consider, make the most of what you have or you will be depressed whether clinically diagnosed or not. Many people are depressed who are not clinically depressed simply because they feel they should have something more or better and they are nowhere near getting that and so it depresses them.
This is kinda what got Bhuddism as a religion started. It is entirely possible a man with $200,000 year job is depressed and feels like he has a shit job. You might disagree but in his mind he doesn't have what he wants.
And that is the lesson of the people in China working actual shit jobs and not depressed or suiciding.
It isn't that you have it better so be happy but rather they are an example that people can be happy with whatever their lot is.
That is a man with 5 donuts can be happy and a man with 1/3 of a donut can be happy. Be careful not to be the man with 5 donuts who is upset however that he doesn't have 8.
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krazychao5
04/12/17 2:49:39 PM
#93:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Minute posted...
Yeah f***ing Robin Williams right? What a f***ing douchestick, just killing himself, didn't he know how good he had it?


Robin Williams didn't suicide because of depression:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/03/robin-williams-disintegrating-before-suicide-widow-says


And a thing to consider, make the most of what you have or you will be depressed whether clinically diagnosed or not. Many people are depressed who are not clinically depressed simply because they feel they should have something more or better and they are nowhere near getting that and so it depresses them.
This is kinda what got Bhuddism as a religion started. It is entirely possible a man with $200,000 year job is depressed and feels like he has a shit job. You might disagree but in his mind he doesn't have what he wants.
And that is the lesson of the people in China working actual shit jobs and not depressed or suiciding.
It isn't that you have it better so be happy but rather they are an example that people can be happy with whatever their lot is.
That is a man with 5 donuts can be happy and a man with 1/3 of a donut can be happy. Be careful not to be the man with 5 donuts who is upset however that he doesn't have 8.


This. I also find it weak that TC was using Robin's death to justify his own actions and thoughts. Which leads me to believe that he has mental issues that stem past depression.
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darkphoenix181
04/12/17 2:54:45 PM
#94:


krazychao5 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Minute posted...
Yeah f***ing Robin Williams right? What a f***ing douchestick, just killing himself, didn't he know how good he had it?


Robin Williams didn't suicide because of depression:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/03/robin-williams-disintegrating-before-suicide-widow-says


And a thing to consider, make the most of what you have or you will be depressed whether clinically diagnosed or not. Many people are depressed who are not clinically depressed simply because they feel they should have something more or better and they are nowhere near getting that and so it depresses them.
This is kinda what got Bhuddism as a religion started. It is entirely possible a man with $200,000 year job is depressed and feels like he has a shit job. You might disagree but in his mind he doesn't have what he wants.
And that is the lesson of the people in China working actual shit jobs and not depressed or suiciding.
It isn't that you have it better so be happy but rather they are an example that people can be happy with whatever their lot is.
That is a man with 5 donuts can be happy and a man with 1/3 of a donut can be happy. Be careful not to be the man with 5 donuts who is upset however that he doesn't have 8.


This. I also find it weak that TC was using Robin's death to justify his own actions and thoughts. Which leads me to believe that he has mental issues that stem past depression.


thing is regular non-clinically depressed people can make excuses and find ways to justify suicide

so that is kinda why my advice is be happy with whatever you have, because if doing the opposite can lead a normal person to suicide then doubly for a person with clinical depression

so normal or diagnosed we need to stop looking at what we got and calling it shit and saying our life sucks because we don't have more or what the other guy has, but don't look at slave in China and say my life is good because I am not them, rather notice how even they can be content and find peace with yourself
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Vicious_Dios
04/12/17 5:56:50 PM
#95:


krazychao5 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Minute posted...
Yeah f***ing Robin Williams right? What a f***ing douchestick, just killing himself, didn't he know how good he had it?


Robin Williams didn't suicide because of depression:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/03/robin-williams-disintegrating-before-suicide-widow-says


And a thing to consider, make the most of what you have or you will be depressed whether clinically diagnosed or not. Many people are depressed who are not clinically depressed simply because they feel they should have something more or better and they are nowhere near getting that and so it depresses them.
This is kinda what got Bhuddism as a religion started. It is entirely possible a man with $200,000 year job is depressed and feels like he has a shit job. You might disagree but in his mind he doesn't have what he wants.
And that is the lesson of the people in China working actual shit jobs and not depressed or suiciding.
It isn't that you have it better so be happy but rather they are an example that people can be happy with whatever their lot is.
That is a man with 5 donuts can be happy and a man with 1/3 of a donut can be happy. Be careful not to be the man with 5 donuts who is upset however that he doesn't have 8.


This. I also find it weak that TC was using Robin's death to justify his own actions and thoughts. Which leads me to believe that he has mental issues that stem past depression.


Yup.

Pretty much what I conveyed to the TC, but he flipped out and broke down bringing in people whom I've never met to argue with me with their petty semantics.

Which was why I opted to leave the topic due to how similar it was with arguing with a brick wall. <_< I only responded to clarify with shitastic results.
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scar the 1
04/13/17 1:06:49 AM
#96:


darkphoenix181 posted...
so that is kinda why my advice is be happy with whatever you have

"Stop having cancer, it's much better to be healthy."
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krazychao5
04/13/17 9:37:35 AM
#97:


scar the 1 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
so that is kinda why my advice is be happy with whatever you have

"Stop having cancer, it's much better to be healthy."

Not comparable. There are no cells eating healthy cells in depression.

Cancer literally kills you. Depression doesn't. (unless you choose to let it)
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scar the 1
04/13/17 9:42:32 AM
#98:


krazychao5 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
so that is kinda why my advice is be happy with whatever you have

"Stop having cancer, it's much better to be healthy."

Not comparable. There are no cells eating healthy cells in depression.

Cancer literally kills you. Depression doesn't. (unless you choose to let it)

Both are fatal illnesses.
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Coolppl Owns
04/13/17 9:44:02 AM
#99:


krazychao5 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
so that is kinda why my advice is be happy with whatever you have

"Stop having cancer, it's much better to be healthy."

Not comparable. There are no cells eating healthy cells in depression.

Cancer literally kills you. Depression doesn't. (unless you choose to let it)


have you ever been depressed before?
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krazychao5
04/13/17 9:45:32 AM
#100:


Coolppl Owns posted...
krazychao5 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
so that is kinda why my advice is be happy with whatever you have

"Stop having cancer, it's much better to be healthy."

Not comparable. There are no cells eating healthy cells in depression.

Cancer literally kills you. Depression doesn't. (unless you choose to let it)


have you ever been depressed before?

Have you had cancer before?
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