Board 8 > Fire Emblem Discussion Topic Part 5: Bet you wish you had Hector Edition

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greengravy294
03/18/17 11:10:22 PM
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WickIebee
03/18/17 11:13:38 PM
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Yes, I do wish I had Hector.
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NeoElfboy
03/18/17 11:15:50 PM
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To answer the question in the previous topic: all-cavalry teams benefit from the class-specific Ward/Goad/etc. skills which are much more potent than the regular variety. Armour and fliers get these too (and there's one for dragons now so more may be on the way) but it's much harder to get four of those + neither has any mages + flier weakness is more common.
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profDEADPOOL
03/18/17 11:21:08 PM
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I so wish I had Hector
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greengravy294
03/18/17 11:22:05 PM
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So is Sully gonna be good now? She seemed decent when I pulled her like super early
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GANON1025
03/18/17 11:30:04 PM
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LMBO if you don't have at least two hectors
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Tom Bombadil
03/18/17 11:30:13 PM
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Hector would be darn nice :\
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AfroSquirrel
03/18/17 11:37:53 PM
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greengravy294 posted...
So is Sully gonna be good now? She seemed decent when I pulled her like super early

Sully murders Reds (Sapphire Lance + Swordbreaker) and is well rounded statwise, but I don't think she has the firepower to kill Blue/Colorless without inheriting a +dmg special. Definitely worth using if you have her at 5.
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WhiteLens
03/18/17 11:39:23 PM
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No Hector here, gotta settle with Effie instead.
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Dark Young Link
03/18/17 11:46:18 PM
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Kind of been playing casually for a while.


Did anyone else just randomly get a 4 star female Corrin? Did they give everyone a free hero or something?
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WhiteLens
03/18/17 11:48:38 PM
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It was a special login bonus for Android users specifically for some odd reason. Even though I'm mainly on iOS, I just downloaded the game on an Android device in my house and logged in through that to get it.
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Team Rocket Elite
03/18/17 11:49:40 PM
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Everyone playing on Android got a free 4* CorrinF. People on iOS got nothing. Although, they can log on on an Andrioid device to get the character.
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Wanglicious
03/18/17 11:58:45 PM
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okay last topic was about full so didn't get into it.

Gunter: Hone Cavalry (+6 ATK/SPD for cavs adjacent to him), 4* C
Jagen: Fortify Cavalry (+6 DEF/RES for cavs adjacent to him), 4* C
Reinhart: Goad Cavalry +4 ATK/SPD for cavs within 2 spaces) 4* C
Eilwood/Olwen: Ward Cavalry (+4 DEF/RES for cavs within 2 spaces) 4* C

since 4* is super easy to get to it's just a matter of getting a couple of those units. personally i've got Jagen, Eilwood, and Gunter. Jagen in particular is super good for skill inheritance purposes since he gets Aegis, Fortify Cav, and Fury 2 at 4*.

on top of the ease of use, the extra move is a big deal for cavs with attack/speed buffs because they just dart in and leave with seemingly no way to stop 'em. if it's a mage like Ursula (missing C and Assist) or Cecilia (missing B and special) it becomes fucking absurd. that's why i mused at the idea of using Nino's magic with Cecilia, though the loss of effectiveness against colorless would be missed. at the same time the stat buff is crazy.

...Ursula and Odin is also worth considering. her spell's advantage is against other cavs, Odin is blue version of Nino's. he also can give Moonbow, if her super special is too long. she'd be very different but also very hard to stop.
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Punnyz
03/19/17 12:05:09 AM
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so if I start rerolling

I WANT to aim for like, 5 star dudes?
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Xuxon
03/19/17 12:07:02 AM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
Everyone playing on Android got a free 4* CorrinF. People on iOS got nothing. Although, they can log on on an Andrioid device to get the character.

but i heard if you switch, all your orbs disappear (to discourage switching and buying orbs during a sale of the other's currency)
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Tom Bombadil
03/19/17 12:09:19 AM
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I really need to get some sorta offensive something onto my Gwendolyn. She keeps getting me into stalemates where nobody can be damaged :\
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Team Rocket Elite
03/19/17 12:12:12 AM
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Xuxon posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
Everyone playing on Android got a free 4* CorrinF. People on iOS got nothing. Although, they can log on on an Andrioid device to get the character.

but i heard if you switch, all your orbs disappear (to discourage switching and buying orbs during a sale of the other's currency)


If you switch back, the Orbs come back. You don't lose them permanently.
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Xuxon
03/19/17 12:14:14 AM
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ah, that's a key detail that was left out <_<
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Team Rocket Elite
03/19/17 12:21:17 AM
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Punnyz posted...
so if I start rerolling

I WANT to aim for like, 5 star dudes?


Yes. At least one good 5* unit. Some people go for 2 or even 3 or more. It depends on how much time and effort you want to spend. How much you want to favor characters you like over characters that are good is also up to you.
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Wanglicious
03/19/17 12:26:09 AM
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Tom Bombadil posted...
I really need to get some sorta offensive something onto my Gwendolyn. She keeps getting me into stalemates where nobody can be damaged :\


could change the special to something offensive if you don't think that defensive special is doing enough.
could also get something in the A slot too since she has nothing there. Defiant Attack if she goes into that <50% HP could be good. Deathblow is a given but harder to get.
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WhiteLens
03/19/17 1:16:43 AM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
Xuxon posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
Everyone playing on Android got a free 4* CorrinF. People on iOS got nothing. Although, they can log on on an Andrioid device to get the character.

but i heard if you switch, all your orbs disappear (to discourage switching and buying orbs during a sale of the other's currency)


If you switch back, the Orbs come back. You don't lose them permanently.

Basically how it works is that iOS and Android have their own individual 'stock' for orbs. So what you earn on Android stays on Android and what you earn on iOS stays on iOS.

Though to be safe, I just emptied out my orb stock on summons before logging in on an Android device.
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MrSmartGuy
03/19/17 1:47:20 AM
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When I began re-rolling the second week the game was out, I told myself that I would keep going until I either got a great 5* character with decent support or Hector in particular. I ended up rolling Takumi one time, but I didn't get anything to go with him.

At that point I decided I'd at least see what a second roll would get, since that only takes like an extra 20 minutes to check, and I didn't especially want to lose Takumi.

Pulled a Hector next batch. So I feel like that's a decent route to go when re-rolling. Go either until you get the most insane pull ever, or go until you get something you like, then play enough for one more batch, and if you whiff, then you can try again, knowing you only wasted a half hour or so for a chance at fantastic upside.
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Tom Bombadil
03/19/17 8:08:10 AM
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sometimes your team works

sometimes your 5/40+1 Lucina jobs to a 4/35 generic axe armor
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ShatteredElysium
03/19/17 12:59:07 PM
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What I would say to people rerolling is don't set your sights on anyone in particular who isn't a focus character. I probably did a solid 200-250 rerolls and never once saw Hector, Takumi, Lucina, etc. I saw 1 Azura but it was on a garbage roll. You very rarely see 5*'s that aren't focus and are high in the tier rankings which makes sense since each focus character is like 0.5% chance whereas the others are like 3% divided by the number of 5*'s possible which is a lot.

I'd say reroll on a PC (it takes 3-5 mins) and settle on an account that has either multiple 5*'s or a 5* with solid 4*'s. You get like 50 orbs straight away so can do 2 rolls and can get to a 3rd roll in like 15-20 mins if you have an account that looks promising.

Can't be bothered doing the actual math but quick head math says you get 2x 5*'s off 2 multi-pulls roughly every 11-12 rerolls
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ShatteredElysium
03/19/17 1:02:09 PM
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Also are we due a new banner soon? I got up to 60 orbs and want to roll but already have 3 of the focus characters on this banner so don't want to roll on it again.
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WhiteLens
03/19/17 1:23:44 PM
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There should be a new banner when the Michalis Great Hero Battle comes in. It doesn't bring in any new characters though, just focus on certain characters.
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Xuxon
03/19/17 1:30:19 PM
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there will be a new one coming later this week. should be Thursday or Friday. it's not very good. Minerva, Eliwood, Gordin and Selena.

bit over a week until a legit new banner (characters that aren't in the game yet). those have generally been better.
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ShatteredElysium
03/19/17 2:02:17 PM
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So this skill inheritance thing, the unit you lose has to be able to learn the skill to transfer?

So for example, the 2* Matthew you start off with has Poison Strike 1/2/3 learned at 3/4/5*. If I want to give Poison Strike 3 to Jaffar, the Matthew has to be 5*? Because when I try feed him to Jaffar as a 2* no Poison Strikes turn up.
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profDEADPOOL
03/19/17 2:05:04 PM
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That is correct. They have to be able to learn it with SP to pass it on
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03/19/17 2:44:56 PM
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Wanglicious
03/19/17 2:56:19 PM
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yeah, that's why looking to 4* moves is better and why it's hard for Brave weapon users to transfer their move properly. a couple examples of 4* skill whores with units that are either 3* base or free...

corrin f = dark breath, draconic aura, and hone attack 3
beruka = glimmer, defiant def 3, lunge
fae = renewal 3
felicia = glacies and breath of life 3
florina = darting blow 3 and breath of life 2
gordin = brave bow and vantage 2
gunter = harsh command, hone cavalry
hana = rally attack, life and death 2, and obstruct
jagen = aegis, fury 2, fortify cavalry
lissa = renewal 2 and rehabilitate
lon'qu = glimmer and vantage 3
matthew = poison strike 2 and hone spd 3
narcian = vengeance, lancebreaker, savage blow 2
palla = moonbow, wings of mercy 2, goad fliers
saizo = harsh command, pison strike 3, spur spd 2
wrys = rehabilitate, heavenly light, and live to serve 2
young tiki = bonfire and defiant atk 3
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KJH
03/19/17 4:17:37 PM
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https://twitter.com/FEHeroes_News/status/843428857193537536

Heads up for super early tomorrow! Early chance at Michalis Grand Battle before it goes up on the 24th, but only from 4:15 AM to 5 AM (PT).

I'll be giving it a shot if only because they're giving rewards based on how many people clear it in that 45 minutes.
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KamikazePotato
03/19/17 4:37:43 PM
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That's 7:15 AM where I am. Kind of early. I guess I could contribute but I might just leave it to you guys !
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WhiteLens
03/19/17 4:48:05 PM
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Those Europeans and Japanese better pull through for us!
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AfroSquirrel
03/19/17 4:49:45 PM
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I can do Hard, but I still haven't cracked Lunatic on one of these yet.
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KommunistKoala
03/19/17 5:07:29 PM
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lol what kind of shitty time is that
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SSBM_Guy
03/19/17 5:11:49 PM
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yeah no I'm not waking up at 4:15 for this
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Xuxon
03/19/17 6:04:22 PM
#38:


i'm gonna be mad if the Japanese get 2 more copies than we do because of this shit time
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WhiteLens
03/19/17 6:46:34 PM
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Isn't it all on the same server?

I keep getting friend requests from people with Japanese names.

Furthermore you can change the language in the settings to Japanese. That's how you get Japanese voices in the game.
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ShatteredElysium
03/19/17 8:22:24 PM
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Couldn't resist pulling as I had 80+ orbs and I don't have a lot of units.

Nothing I really wanted but still a pretty good pull I think. Glad I did the second pull as Cain/Lucius/Caeda all came on the second pull.

5* Cain (Spd-/Def+)
5* Lucius (HP-/Spd+)
4* Hana (HP-/Spd+)
4* Caeda (HP-/Res+)
4* Subaki (Res-/Def+)
3* Gordin (Spd-/HP+)
3* Setsuna (HP-/Res+)
3* Setsuna (Def-/HP+)
3* Cherche (Res-/ATk+)
3* Sophia (Atk-/Def+)

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Xuxon
03/19/17 8:31:40 PM
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WhiteLens posted...
Isn't it all on the same server?

I keep getting friend requests from people with Japanese names.

Furthermore you can change the language in the settings to Japanese. That's how you get Japanese voices in the game.

the event is only open for 45 minutes at a time convenient to them, though. Europeans will be at work, it's the middle of the night for west coast, and still too early for a lot of East Coasters (like me).
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GANON1025
03/19/17 9:45:54 PM
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I think every multisummon I've done on this banner has gotten me a 5* . Karel , Hector , Jaffar and now Reinhardt
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WhiteLens
03/19/17 10:11:45 PM
#43:


Xuxon posted...
WhiteLens posted...
Isn't it all on the same server?

I keep getting friend requests from people with Japanese names.

Furthermore you can change the language in the settings to Japanese. That's how you get Japanese voices in the game.

the event is only open for 45 minutes at a time convenient to them, though. Europeans will be at work, it's the middle of the night for west coast, and still too early for a lot of East Coasters (like me).

Considering that the market for these games is at its biggest in Japan, isn't it to our benefit if they do most of the work for us?

It's still day time in Europe, so it's not like they won't be chipping in.

It's only the Americas that are screwed in participating, but that affects everyone who plays the game throughout the world.
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ShatteredElysium
03/19/17 10:15:50 PM
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Well the fairest thing to do would be to give each player X amounts of attempts at it during a 24 hour period rather than only opening for 45 minutes at a ridiculous time.
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Xuxon
03/19/17 10:17:58 PM
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did you even read my post? i said i would be mad if they got two extra copies of Michalis. it's fine if the shared rewards are the only benefit.
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greengravy294
03/19/17 10:52:32 PM
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just pulled 5* marf

aint no lucina, but oh well
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WhiteLens
03/19/17 10:53:53 PM
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Oh 2 copies of Michalis, yeah sorry, didn't know exactly what you meant when you said that.

Hopefully progress is carried over when it goes live on its scheduled time.
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masterplum
03/20/17 7:20:48 AM
#48:


Boom

4* michallis get

Only had to blow 10k crystals to get my Olivia to 40
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masterplum
03/20/17 7:32:37 AM
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Here's how I did it real quick.

What you need

Great Archer. I used 40 Takumi but you could use another one I suppose.
LV 40 (possibly 39 depending on stat ups?) Olivia, or a 5* blue dancer I suppose
Any random dude with a + defense aura
A red mage lv 40

Sneak up the right side. Have your archer pick off the blue flier, then dance him back with a dancer who had been plus defensed

Have the red horse come down and knock Olivia to 1hp

Blow up Michallis with your red mage danced x2

Attack the red horse with your archer to get him out of Bow break status.

Clean up
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masterplum
03/20/17 7:49:06 AM
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Just realized I probably could have done it without the crystals.
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