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Rad Link 5
07/01/12 2:43:00 PM
#301:


From: XIII_rocks | #300
You could apply that logic to any match

And I have done that!

I sort of assume that, in this case, they'd have him defend his suitcase the next night against someone who wants it, and lose in the ugliest way possible. And then someone would spit on him and the GM of the week would announce he's fired for being such a sorry loser. Also they probably would withhold his paycheck.

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XIII_rocks
07/01/12 2:45:00 PM
#302:


And he would never find work in any other wrestling company, either.

Though some people love controversial wrestlers, so some might see it as a worthwhile investment despite the risk

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Maniac64
07/01/12 2:50:00 PM
#303:


I imagine either WWE has the guy get kayfabe injured and have to give up the contract in his next match or he gets put in a match with the briefcase on the line and loses it to the intended person.

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MartinFF7
07/01/12 2:51:00 PM
#304:


From: XIII_rocks | #300
You could apply that logic to any match

What if this guy just decided to win the Royal Rumble and rolled out of the ring until #30 was up, for instance

If everything in the Rumble is determined ahead of time, and I assume there's a crew of people watching it as it goes down, then someone would notice an under-the-rope roll-out when there shouldn't have been... so they'd still have like, upwards of an hour to fix it. They could tell every wrestler before they go out that so-and-so needs to get back into the ring. The guy that rolled out, where would he hide to kill the time? If he's just sitting on the floor next to the ring then you can get a bunch of wrestlers to force him back in or something.

Alternatively, when someone makes their entrance and the camera shot is on the entrance person, you can have someone on commentary say "Oh and while we were focused on this new entrant, so and so was eliminated". And then that's it, they're gone.


..... maybe that's what they'd do with the ladder match. They'd claim that whoever won did something illegal before winning and as a result they were disqualified from the match and they're going to redo it.

From: Rad Link 5 | #301
From: XIII_rocks | #300
You could apply that logic to any match

And I have done that!

I sort of assume that, in this case, they'd have him defend his suitcase the next night against someone who wants it, and lose in the ugliest way possible. And then someone would spit on him and the GM of the week would announce he's fired for being such a sorry loser. Also they probably would withhold his paycheck.

I thought about that too, but the fact they went so horribly off-script the first time, would they really trust this person to do things right the 2nd time? What if they forget technicalities and just make it a normal one-pinfall match for the contract, and the guy that's supposed to lose gets DQed or counted out so they, technically, keep the contract? What if they refuse to get pinned so there's a real, brutal physical confrontation going on a live episode of Raw (like Jeff Hardy vs. Sting is Hardy was on bath salts instead of whatever he was on)? Would they cut to commercial and just say the guy was pinned during the commercial break? I guess that's what they'd do...

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GTM
07/01/12 2:51:00 PM
#305:


fire him

then announce a match for the briefcase, re-air a match he had on velocity where he loses and splice in footage of the winner holding up the briefcase

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MartinFF7
07/01/12 2:52:00 PM
#306:


From: Maniac64 | #304
I imagine either WWE has the guy get kayfabe injured and have to give up the contract in his next match or he gets put in a match with the briefcase on the line and loses it to the intended person.

in kayfabe, what was the time limit for cashing in? 1 year, or until the next Wrestlemania? Or do they not have that time limit anymore? The kayfabe injury would have to be kayfabe career ending... which actually would work really well, good call.

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MartinFF7
07/01/12 2:53:00 PM
#307:


From: GTM | #305
fire him

then announce a match for the briefcase, re-air a match he had on velocity where he loses and splice in footage of the winner holding up the briefcase

"You can have the briefcase. I have to go now, my planet needs me."

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TimJab
07/01/12 2:54:00 PM
#308:


From: Jakyl25 | #267
Going back to "best debut matches," I can't believe I f***ing forgot REY MYSTERIO JR.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ks4p_dean-malenko-vs-rey-mysterio-jr-gab_sport

Instant Superstar.


yeah rey really took the world by storm around that time

he actually managed to steal the show at the friggin super j cup as a nobody against psicosis in an exhibition match in 1995

that tournament featured liger, ultimo dragon, jericho, benoit, otani, and el samurai amongst others, all in their primes, and some 5'5" 20 year old nobody stole the show

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Rad Link 5
07/01/12 2:54:00 PM
#309:


From: MartinFF7 | #303
I thought about that too, but the fact they went so horribly off-script the first time, would they really trust this person to do things right the 2nd time?

That's why they would withhold his pay.

If he still insisted on not playing ball, they'd just take the credibility hit of a hasty write-off (we see a heel push someone down a flight of stairs and find out it was Mr. Money in the Bank, or an angry face beats on his car while he's supposedly in it, and the car explodes, or something a little less ridiculous) and stop puttin him on TV.

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JaKyL25
07/01/12 2:54:00 PM
#310:


From: MartinFF7 | #299
Or would they just pretend there's no MITB contract, like, forget the match ever happened and we never see that person on tv again?

"Tyson Kidd died on the way back to his home planet."

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JaKyL25
07/01/12 2:55:00 PM
#311:


MARTIN'D

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MartinFF7
07/01/12 2:58:00 PM
#312:


awwwwww yeahhhh same wavelength on that one

From: Rad Link 5 | #309
From: MartinFF7 | #303
I thought about that too, but the fact they went so horribly off-script the first time, would they really trust this person to do things right the 2nd time?

That's why they would withhold his pay.

they get paid what, every 2 weeks or every month? Maybe they pull it off knowing full well they won't see those 2 or 4 weeks pay. Or maybe they've already got a new job lined up when their contract is up so they're not worried about it...
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JaKyL25
07/01/12 2:59:00 PM
#313:


From: MartinFF7 | #303
What if they refuse to get pinned so there's a real, brutal physical confrontation going on a live episode of Raw (like Jeff Hardy vs. Sting is Hardy was on bath salts instead of whatever he was on)?

Send Del Rio in there to do it and Del Rio will legit kick most regular sized guys' asses.

Now, if it was like Big Show who was trying to pull this stunt, then...umm....

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TimJab
07/01/12 3:03:00 PM
#314:


From: Jakyl25 | #313
Send Del Rio in there to do it and Del Rio will legit kick most regular sized guys' asses.


so long as it's not cro cop

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JaKyL25
07/01/12 3:03:00 PM
#315:


If Cro Cop runs in and steals Money in the Bank then I say run with it as an angle.

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Rad Link 5
07/01/12 3:05:00 PM
#316:


Right, the WWE has a few guys trained in MMA who could have an actual fight if need be.

If it's Big Show, and Big Show has a future job lined up and isn't afraid of not being paid or ever getting the paychecks involved in future appearances, then they probably don't even bother putting him on TV to lose the briefcase. "Big Show has left the WWE. Therefore, the Raw Money in the Bank briefcase is back up for grabs."

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Maniac64
07/01/12 3:06:00 PM
#317:


Send Brock Lesner after them.

Let him legit fight the guy.

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DeathChicken
07/01/12 3:09:00 PM
#318:


"My client is suing for being beaten up during a wrestling match!"

"Wait, what?"

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MartinFF7
07/01/12 3:09:00 PM
#319:


From: Jakyl25 | #313
Send Del Rio in there to do it and Del Rio will legit kick most regular sized guys' asses.

But then the guy presses charges on Del Rio for assault and WWE has egg all over their faces... he can claim his brutality was in self-defence and it wasn't part of the script...

If it was Big Show, I can see a hilarious sequence of events where the ref completely ignores blatant disqualifying events, every superstar over 240 pounds comes out from the back and wrestle Big Show to the ground and, like, sit on him and then the ref does the 3 count.


From: Rad Link 5 | #316
[name] has left the WWE. Therefore, the Raw Money in the Bank briefcase is back up for grabs."

This is the most likely solution, ultimately. Why they would leave immediately after winning makes no sense, but it's the quickest cleanest way to start over.

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TimJab
07/01/12 3:10:00 PM
#320:


del rio shouldn't feel too bad, he lasted twice as long as former IWGP champ yuji nagata did before getting kicked in the head

cro cop actually went under the nickname "the pro wrestler hunter" for a while

now that he's done with mma somebody should bring him in, he'd make an intriguing opponent for angle at lockdown

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Rad Link 5
07/01/12 3:11:00 PM
#321:


They could always say the guy had a serious injury or a personal issue they needed to take care of or something, but I'm not sure they even try to justify his leaving.

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TimJab
07/01/12 3:12:00 PM
#322:


other pro wrestlers cro cop has beaten include

kazuyuki fujita
nobuhiko takada
kazushi sakuraba

4 of his first 5 career fights were against pro wrestlers

somebody bring him in!

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JaKyL25
07/01/12 3:14:00 PM
#323:


From: MartinFF7 | #318
But then the guy presses charges on Del Rio for assault and WWE has egg all over their faces... he can claim his brutality was in self-defence and it wasn't part of the script...

Anyone properly trained in amateur wrestling and jiu-jitsu should be able to manhandle an untrained guy down for a three count without like breaking his arm or busting his face up.

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DeathChicken
07/01/12 3:14:00 PM
#324:


Cro Cop KO R1 Heath Slater (Left High Kick)

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JaKyL25
07/01/12 3:15:00 PM
#325:


From: TimJab | #322
nobuhiko takada

Any MMA match featuring Takada should be taken with heavy skepticism.

Though if he lost by getting his face kicked in then I guess that answers that.

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TimJab
07/01/12 3:16:00 PM
#326:


From: DeathChicken | #324
Cro Cop KO R1 Heath Slater (Left High Kick)



in a weird coincidence, that 5th fight that wasn't against a pro wrestler?

mirko cro cop vs....heath "slater" herring!

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JaKyL25
07/01/12 3:17:00 PM
#327:


Heath Herring has a more ridiculous haircut than Heath Slater.

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TimJab
07/01/12 3:17:00 PM
#328:


From: Jakyl25 | #325
From: TimJab | #322
nobuhiko takada

Any MMA match featuring Takada should be taken with heavy skepticism.

Though if he lost by getting his face kicked in then I guess that answers that.


they went to a draw

"lol"

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MartinFF7
07/01/12 3:18:00 PM
#329:


From: Jakyl25 | #323
From: MartinFF7 | #318
But then the guy presses charges on Del Rio for assault and WWE has egg all over their faces... he can claim his brutality was in self-defence and it wasn't part of the script...

Anyone properly trained in amateur wrestling and jiu-jitsu should be able to manhandle an untrained guy down for a three count without like breaking his arm or busting his face up.

Assuming the guy is untrained.... what if he's not and wins the grappling exchanges?

Now the WWE needs to make this happen. reality era™

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TimJab
07/01/12 3:22:00 PM
#330:


and if TNA doesn't want to bring in cro cop, have him be part of the UFC stable brock brings in to destroy WWE

also including bobby lashley, ken shamrock, dan severn, and of course chael sonnen

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JaKyL25
07/01/12 3:24:00 PM
#331:


And of course Rampage Jackson

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MartinFF7
07/01/12 3:26:00 PM
#332:


From: TimJab | #330
and if TNA doesn't want to bring in cro cop, have him be part of the UFC stable brock brings in to destroy WWE

also including bobby lashley, ken shamrock, dan severn, and of course chael sonnen

Long have I wanted there to be an arc where a wrestler defeats champions and accumulates championships culminating in an ultimate Wrestlemania match (probably vs. Taker: Streak vs. vacating all the championships he has)

And that man... would be Sonnen. I'd like to see Sonnen with all manner of championship belts ;(

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TimJab
07/01/12 3:29:00 PM
#333:


survivor series

TEAM WWE
John Cena
CM Punk
Daniel Bryan
Alberto Del Rio
Sheamus
Randy Orton

TEAM MMA
Brock Lesnar
Chael Sonnen
Mirko Cro Cop
Bobby Lashley
Ken Shamrock
"Mystery Partner"

Like Bash at the Beach, no mystery partner shows up until Del Rio shocks the world and turns on Team WWE, revealing himself to be the 6th member. Team WWE is outnumbered and soon it's down to John Cena vs. Brock and Chael. All of a sudden, Anderson Silva comes out of the crowd and breaks all of Sonnen's appendages, Cena adjusts Brock's attitude, and the PPV goes off the air with Cena's music blaring.

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Rad Link 5
07/01/12 3:38:00 PM
#334:


Bryan also turns on Team WWE toward the end of the match, causing Cena to get F5'd.

The next day, we get WWE Presents Monday Night MMA starring Brock Lesnar.

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JaKyL25
07/01/12 3:39:00 PM
#335:


http://wrestlingisserious.com/

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MartinFF7
07/01/12 3:42:00 PM
#336:


From: TimJab | #333
All of a sudden, Anderson Silva comes out of the crowd and breaks all of Sonnen's appendages, Cena adjusts Brock's attitude, and the PPV goes off the air with Cena's music blaring.

do not want


From: Rad Link 5 | #334
Bryan also turns on Team WWE toward the end of the match, causing Cena to get F5'd.

The next day, we get WWE Presents Monday Night MMA starring Brock Lesnar.

I'm okay with this!


From: Jakyl25 | #335
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JaKyL25
07/01/12 3:44:00 PM
#337:


I just thought it was an appropriate link to bring back.

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Rad Link 5
07/01/12 3:58:00 PM
#338:


Mixed Martial Archie
Reilly O'Kyle
Eduardo Edwards
Roldan Junior Dos Equis
J'on J'ones

I'm not sure there's a name on that list I didn't at least chuckle out loud at, but those are my favorites.

Also

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/hgokae

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SythaWarrior
07/01/12 4:05:00 PM
#339:


Fay Bucanero is coming up on 700-0 can he do it?

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PAE for this PD
07/01/12 5:35:00 PM
#340:


So for the longest time, I've considered hosting a Save My contest for every WWF/WWE game, then another contest for all other wrestling games, and then a third one featuring the Top 10 or so of both contests.

First, some input from you:
1. Should Crush Hour/Betrayal/With Authority/etc. be included so we can say we included every WWF/WWE game ever? Or just the wrestling ones?
2. Should sims be included in the other contest?

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Rad Link 5
07/01/12 5:48:00 PM
#341:


Hm.

I'm going to say no, and yes, in that order.

But the no is a soft no, because it would be amusing to have those included.

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TimJab
07/01/12 6:16:00 PM
#342:


From: Rad Link 5 | #338
Mixed Martial Archie
Reilly O'Kyle
Eduardo Edwards
Roldan Junior Dos Equis
J'on J'ones

I'm not sure there's a name on that list I didn't at least chuckle out loud at, but those are my favorites.


Mixed Martial Archie is actually a real guy!

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07/01/12 6:24:00 PM
#343:


an awesome real guy

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Wanglicious
07/01/12 6:26:00 PM
#344:


that wasn't intentional? >_>;
cause i can't think of anyone but... well, mixed martial archie for that.

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PrestonStarry
07/01/12 6:37:00 PM
#345:


PAE for this PD posted...
So for the longest time, I've considered hosting a Save My contest for every WWF/WWE game, then another contest for all other wrestling games, and then a third one featuring the Top 10 or so of both contests.

First, some input from you:
1. Should Crush Hour/Betrayal/With Authority/etc. be included so we can say we included every WWF/WWE game ever? Or just the wrestling ones?
2. Should sims be included in the other contest?


I'll be the savior here to answer your question. I was the king at the "Save My" contests here at B8 back in the day.

1. I would say no. Since there would be a good 40 or so more games included in the contest I think it would get monotonous and boring in the first few rounds as those games would be nothing but filler in the contest and be some of the first out. I would expect the final involving a combination of Shut Your Mouth/Here Comes The Pain/DOR1/SVR06/No Mercy. All of those "other" wrestling games would just get in the way.

2. Yes.

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GTM
07/01/12 6:57:00 PM
#346:


have save my wrestling things ever fared well on this board?

Didn't the save my hardcore champion take forever to finish due to lack of activity?

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PAE for this PD
07/01/12 7:08:00 PM
#347:


PrestonStarry posted...
PAE for this PD posted...
So for the longest time, I've considered hosting a Save My contest for every WWF/WWE game, then another contest for all other wrestling games, and then a third one featuring the Top 10 or so of both contests.

First, some input from you:
1. Should Crush Hour/Betrayal/With Authority/etc. be included so we can say we included every WWF/WWE game ever? Or just the wrestling ones?
2. Should sims be included in the other contest?


I'll be the savior here to answer your question. I was the king at the "Save My" contests here at B8 back in the day.

1. I would say no. Since there would be a good 40 or so more games included in the contest I think it would get monotonous and boring in the first few rounds as those games would be nothing but filler in the contest and be some of the first out. I would expect the final involving a combination of Shut Your Mouth/Here Comes The Pain/DOR1/SVR06/No Mercy. All of those "other" wrestling games would just get in the way.

2. Yes.


That's true. And in terms of monotonous and filler, I wasn't going to include handheld versions of games, but I suppose I should also take out the original games for the Game Boy Advance (Road To Wrestlemania/RTW X8/Survivor Series) as well as WWE Aftershock for the N-Gage. (lol)

GTM posted...
have save my wrestling things ever fared well on this board?

Didn't the save my hardcore champion take forever to finish due to lack of activity?


That was because there was a ton of people in that. That was like 6th in a series of championship contests, where the first 5 went quite well.

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Dr_Football
07/01/12 10:19:00 PM
#348:


To all my wonderful fans, just want to let you know I have been granted my release from TNA. It was completely amicable parting of ways and I want to thank TNA and all of its employees for the wonderful journey I've had there over the years. Now I'm on to the next amazing chapter of my life! If you are looking to book me please contact John at [email protected] Thank you so much!



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Rad Link 5
07/01/12 10:35:00 PM
#349:


THE CHAMP

IS



HAVING DELUSIONS OF A CAREER IN MODELING OR ACTING!

(I assume)

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JaKyL25
07/02/12 2:02:00 AM
#350:


Another Twitter war. This time it's the controversial Mark Madden vs. former cheerleader Mike Mondo over the health of ROH as a company.

Long story short (and I am filling in some massive blanks here because Madden's prose is s***), Madden wrote a column wondering how ROH can survive as a "#3" National promotion when they clearly cannot pass (or even come close to) drawing the same kind of money TNA does, with talent that constantly gets purged. He likened it to ECW getting too big for its britches and basically going national at the worst possible time, since WWE and WCW had already taken all the talent that was worth taking.

A fair point. It's one thing to be small time and accept it. Tour the northeast and midwest, sell out your core markets a few times a year, don't over-extend yourself locking down talent or trying to conquer new land. You can survive and maybe even make a living that way, as CHIKARA is currently proving.

But what ROH is doing now under Sinclair is heavily reminiscent of ECW on TNN. All the charismatic guys are gone, and they're left with "good workers" (ROH) or "Hardcore brawlers" (ECW) who can't make it in WWE or TNA because they lack presence. To ROH's credit, they've lucked out a little with Davey and Steen in that those are two guys WITH presence that can't make it in WWE or TNA for size reasons (and completely different size reasons at that. <_<). ECW in its final years had no one like those two. The rest of the rosters though? Pretty comparable. And yet they're trying to become bigger than ever in scope, when their best days as a product are long gone.

Potentially fatal mistake.

So anyway, Madden points this out and all the ROHbots and even ROH wrestlers (most notably Mondo) jump down his throat about how ROH is awesome and it's the best wrestling on the planet, yada yada lena yada, which is basically a strawman.

Madden: "ROH can't survive financially like this."
ROHbots: "F*** YOU u fat slob ROH rules!"
Madden: "If it rules so much why isn't it making money?"
ROHbots: "What do you know about making money you fat f***?"

and so on and so on.

I hate to side with Madden but I think he wins this one.

Talent beats Hard Work every time.

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Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.
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