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ninkendo 06/18/12 4:49:00 AM #1: |
stop it
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X_Dante_X 06/18/12 4:52:00 AM #2: |
this is why the 360 is an awesome console. Hit one setting like 6 years ago, every game on it is inverted by default
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_Carlemagne_ 06/18/12 6:03:00 AM #3: |
What do you do, only play piloting games?
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Liquid Wind 06/18/12 6:39:00 AM #4: |
I don't play any piloting games
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Ayuyu 06/18/12 6:42:00 AM #5: |
Non-inverted Y axis ewwww.
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Tom Bombadil 06/18/12 6:44:00 AM #6: |
who inverts the Y axis
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EndOfDiscOne 06/18/12 6:46:00 AM #7: |
Tom Bombadil posted...
who inverts the Y axis Probably that Meow guy who holds an N64 controller by the ends. -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 06/18/12 7:14:00 AM #8: |
it's only natural to think of control stick as your character's neck when looking around and when I pull my neck back my head looks up.
When I pull the control stick back I expect my character to look up. When they look down it is completely disorienting and difficult to play -- http://i.imgur.com/X13IL.jpg http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/CaptainRockman.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wg64Z 06/18/12 7:19:00 AM #9: |
Inverted for life.
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_Carlemagne_ 06/18/12 7:21:00 AM #10: |
Inverted Access: Hey I'm running to a ladder and looking up by hitting down... Now I'm going up the ladder by hitting up.
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ninkendo 06/18/12 7:24:00 AM #11: |
forward movement and looking around are typically separate sticks so that shouldn't be a problem!
now remember I'm talking about console gaming only here. For PC's obviously inverted Y-axis doesn't make sense with a mouse -- http://i.imgur.com/X13IL.jpg http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/CaptainRockman.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranzonEx 06/18/12 7:26:00 AM #12: |
Inverted anything doesn't make sense unless you're playing a flight sim.
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KingButz 06/18/12 7:28:00 AM #13: |
Always invert the Y axis
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wg64Z 06/18/12 7:28:00 AM #14: |
Look straight up.
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GuessMyUserName 06/18/12 7:31:00 AM #15: |
yesssssssssss invert y the best
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th3l3fty 06/18/12 7:37:00 AM #16: |
From: wg64Z | #014
Look straight up. Look straight up. Now look straight down. Which direction did your sight go in relation to its default position? -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WazzupGenius00 06/18/12 7:44:00 AM #17: |
I heard that some game recently did something pretty smart, I don't remember what game it was though
What it did was, in the tutorial, told you to use the right analog stick to look up. If you pressed down to do it it would automatically configure the y-axis to be inverted but if you pressed up, it kept it normal. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RayDyn 06/18/12 8:09:00 AM #18: |
From: KingButz | Posted: 6/18/2012 10:28:09 AM | #013
Always invert the Y axis -- I have the best friends in the world. http://img.imgcake.com/SgtSphynx/JWBluejpgheze.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 06/18/12 8:14:00 AM #19: |
th3l3fty posted...
From: wg64Z | #014Look straight up. see this is the wrong line of thinking. Your sight is part of your whole head not something separate -- http://i.imgur.com/X13IL.jpg http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/CaptainRockman.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WhoopsyDaisy 06/18/12 8:25:00 AM #20: |
WazzupGenius00 posted...
I heard that some game recently did something pretty smart, I don't remember what game it was though Genius -- senorhousemouse ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PurpleMonkDish 06/18/12 8:27:00 AM #21: |
Inverted is the best
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EndOfDiscOne 06/18/12 8:30:00 AM #22: |
th3l3fty posted...
From: wg64Z | #014Look straight up. This would be fine if the camera were panning up and down, but it is tilting on an axis. The axis is your neck. -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KJH 06/18/12 8:46:00 AM #23: |
I don't like either axis being inverted in practically any case. It feels really unintuitive, I'd much rather go left if I press left and up if I press up. Don't really understand the reasoning to inverting the y-axis either, when most of the people who want it don't invert the x-axis so it's not even consistent within that whole "think of the control stick as tilting the person's head" argument.
Though the most disorienting example to this day is still that Star Wars trilogy arcade shooter. Not so much the flight sim parts because those made enough sense given the joystick and flying, but the lightsaber parts had on screen prompts of like "diagonal up right to diagonal down left" with the x axis uninverted, y-axis inverted. -- I have no idea who you are, but I thank you for arousing me. - Beruga Brawl FC: 3823-8243-5663 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EndOfDiscOne 06/18/12 8:57:00 AM #24: |
The stick on a plane has only y-axis inverted. Haven't you ever flown a plane?
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azuarc 06/18/12 9:56:00 AM #25: |
th3l3fty posted...
Look straight up. Nowhere. My sight stayed stationary while my head moved. My head tilted back to look up and tilted forward to look down. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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th3l3fty 06/18/12 10:09:00 AM #26: |
try using the proper frame of reference this time!
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muddersmilk 06/18/12 10:15:00 AM #27: |
EndOfDiscOne posted...
The stick on a plane has only y-axis inverted. Haven't you ever flown a plane? Yes. I still don't want to play inverted unless it is a flight sim. -- (Maniac64 at work) All the proteins, vitamins, and carbs of your grandma's best turkey dinner, plus 15% alcohol. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Liquid Wind 06/18/12 10:19:00 AM #28: |
I actually like X axis inverted for camera but I can deal with it either way, Y axis not inverted is simply bad design.
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CommodoreTN 06/18/12 10:21:00 AM #29: |
I view games as a camera, not as an extension of my head. So if I want the screen to scroll up, I point up. I guess y-axis inverted would make for a more realistic gaming experience, but I'm fine with the camera perspective.
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agesboy 06/18/12 10:28:00 AM #30: |
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SSBM_Guy 06/18/12 10:47:00 AM #31: |
I view games as a camera, not as an extension of my head. So if I want the screen to scroll up, I point up. I guess y-axis inverted would make for a more realistic gaming experience, but I'm fine with the camera perspective.
this. I'm so used to y axis not inverted and I never saw the point in inverted y axis. I always figured that was just a "thing" for FPS fans and I was like "okay, I don't get why they like that, but at least I can switch to non-inverted". the whole thing about the neck makes sense, but again, I just see it as more of a camera. Want to look up, I hit the control stick upwards. -- Rank 9, Dr. Peace? Pffft, nothing compared to Rank 1, Dr_Football! when thinking of Krystal, does GMUN's pants get overcrowded? ~ GMUN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shadosneko 06/18/12 1:17:00 PM #32: |
Timesplitters 2 was basically my first FPS, therefore, Y invert is correct.
From: ninkendo | #008 it's only natural to think of control stick as your character's neck when looking around and when I pull my neck back my head looks up. When I pull the control stick back I expect my character to look up. When they look down it is completely disorienting and difficult to play If you think of it this way, X should also be inverted. -- http://backloggery.com/shados http://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko VISUALSHOCK! SPEEDSHOCK! SOUNDSHOCK! NOW IS TIME TO THE 68000 HEART ON FIRE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 06/18/12 1:19:00 PM #33: |
all inverted all the time
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TheOceIot 06/18/12 1:21:00 PM #34: |
From: X_Dante_X | #002
this is why the 360 is an awesome console. Hit one setting like 6 years ago, every game on it is inverted by default -- you just can't live in that negative way...make way for the positive day ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 06/18/12 1:24:00 PM #35: |
Yeah I can't do this for FPS or TPS games. It's ok if it's a flight thing but otherwise it seems extremely counterintuitive to hold down to look up.
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foolm0ron 06/18/12 1:25:00 PM #36: |
From: CommodoreTN | #029
I view games as a camera, not as an extension of my head. So if I want the screen to scroll up, I point up. I guess y-axis inverted would make for a more realistic gaming experience, but I'm fine with the camera perspective. That It makes sense to use inverted Y when you are controlling an axis, like with flight controls, but controlling a camera is just moving around a single point on a screen, so it makes no sense to use inverted Y. -- foolmo at work ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Menji76 06/18/12 1:27:00 PM #37: |
inverted is gross
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paperwarior 06/18/12 1:29:00 PM #38: |
It was confusing in Sly 1 when you're aiming and moving with the left analog and the Y axis is inverted.
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KJH 06/18/12 1:33:00 PM #39: |
The stick on a plane has only y-axis inverted. Haven't you ever flown a plane?
Yeah, hence the "Not so much the flight sim parts because those made enough sense given the joystick and flying". But a lightsaber's pretty different than a plane. And on screen prompts rapidly showing arrows going "left, upper right, down, lower left" would make me think to press in those directions instead of "left, lower right, up, upper left", -- I have no idea who you are, but I thank you for arousing me. - Beruga Brawl FC: 3823-8243-5663 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 06/18/12 1:35:00 PM #40: |
I invert the Y axis in any game with first-person controls, on consoles or PCs. I don't really know why, I guess I just learned it that way. If I try to play any game with a non-inverted y axis, it is completely disorienting and I always mess up. The only thing I hate is games that don't give you the option to invert it or not, which is becoming an increasing rarity.
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pjbasis 06/18/12 2:37:00 PM #41: |
I actually have this big problem where I'm not really used to anything.
Everytime I switch to something to test it out, I find myself having to manually think about it and messing up. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViviffTheGreat 06/18/12 2:41:00 PM #42: |
For shooters and things like that, non-inverted all day e'ryday. For planes and flying games and stuff it has to be inverted or your a freak. Star Fox: Assault raped my mind with its inverted ground controls. I could just not get the hang of that game ever
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