Board 8 > Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 3 [lists]

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FFXII has probably the most unmemorable soundtrack in the series.

I like to make a compilation CD of FF music of the series to listen to while I'm riding in the car or whatever. I went to try to make one of FFXII, and I was like, "...what songs from this game do I even remember liking? Let's see, there was the Esper Battle theme, and uhhhhh"

And the CD was never made.

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Hey, I even tried to be fair and listen to the soundtrack again to see if maybe there was something I overlooked.

Came to the same conclusion. This isn't me trying to be some FFXII hater or anything. I just don't think the game does anything exceptionally well except for...well, maybe one or two things.

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It's Leon's solemn duty to react to seeing "XII" by blacking out everything else in sight and becoming vaguely depressed.

We should pity him, it causes so many problems when he looks at old fashioned clocks.

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I think Chrono Trigger when I look at old fashioned clocks because of the title screen.

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Personally, I think of what time it is.

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BAM

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From: Panthera | #106
Personally, I think of what time it is.
Why would I do that when I'm wearing a watch already?

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Also, I don't like old-fashioned clocks that make noise.

I don't really like anything that makes noise in a consistent pattern, actually. It bothers me.

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I have a friend who's like that.

It's weird because that kind of thing is soothing to me.

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FFXII has two good themes. The Feywood and Dalmasca Weste-- Easter... one of the sands. The more foreboding deserty one. I guess the esper battle theme is okay too but nothing great. Uhhh what was I saying.

Oh favorite final boss theme um... strangely tough. I guess The Extreme? Maybe Dancing Mad? I like a lot of boss themes but final boss themes aren't often at the top.

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I don't mind them if they're fairly quiet. They're kind of helpful in a way, I pretty much need a little bit of sound or else I can't fall asleep.

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It depends.

Water from a sink dripping can be annoying, but I love clocks.

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I dunno. The only noise I can tolerate when I'm trying to fall asleep is music. I like to sleep in silence and darkness for the most part, which means I'll probably end up marrying some girl who has to have some sort of white noise like a fan blowing to sleep.

I remember one time trying to take a nap at my grandma's house, and all I could hear was the sound of her grandfather clock ticking. It was so distracting it took me forever to fall asleep. I dunno how to describe why it bothers me so much, but I can't not notice that kind of noise.

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It's music that I can't not notice!

It makes me want to listen to it than treat it as background noise.

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Bonus Question: What is your favorite final boss battle theme?

Battle VS Lord Blazer, Wild Arms 2

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Favorite final boss theme is Ultimate Koopa, which is also my favorite Mario music track.

My favourite is The Final Battle from FFIX. Both parts.

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The Dark Messenger is pretty great, yeah.

Also, good news, everyone! I've managed to find on Amazon a Street Fighter II comic miniseries that I owned as a child but was lost to the void at some point! It's only eight issues, and I got each one for less than 5 bucks a pop! I think shipping is going to cost more than the comics themselves!

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Persona 4's The Genesis might not be the greatest song to listen to out of context, but during the final battle it's an immensely powerful piece. Boss music can be such a large part of setting the scene - it's a high point of nearly any game when it's done right.

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Bonus Question: What is your favorite final boss battle theme?

One-Winged Angel. ~boring like that~

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24. Laguna Loire (Final Fantasy VIII)
Quote: “I speak with passion, from the heart! That’s what matters most.”


Laguna is a lovable moron. That’s probably the simplest way to describe him. He says and does the most ridiculous and nonsensical things at times, but you can’t help but love the guy. I think what makes Laguna likable despite all the crazy stuff he does is that, deep down, you know he has a good heart. He’s a kind man who cares deeply about everyone around him. He doesn’t do the best job of expressing it sometimes, but he does try. Laguna also has a natural charisma that draws people to him, which is why Kiros and Ward continue to follow the guy despite all the trouble he constantly gets them into. Plus, as Kiros says, “Life’s pretty boring without you as entertainment, my man.”

One of my favorite Laguna quirks is his tendency to misquote common clichés, such as “The unfamiliar always happens,” and “Like killing two pigs with one stone.” Of course, Kiros and Ward’s attempts to correct him often lead to hilarious results as well. I also love Laguna’s occasional delusions of grandeur, such as when he talks about their “grand escape from Centra,” while Kiros more accurately describes it as them being chased out by Esthar soldiers and getting severely injured. Speaking of which, that scene is one of my personal favorite Laguna moments. I love how he tosses Kiros and Ward off the cliff into the waters below, and then he’s like, “You guys sure have guts. You know how high this cliff is?” as if they jumped in on their own without him shoving them! Then he slowly and delicately tries to climb down the cliff, slips, and falls down to the water below while screaming and trying not to shout obscenities. So good.

However, there’s more to Laguna than just comic relief (although he fills the role exceptionally well). He’s gone through a lot of heartbreak and sorrow in his life, which is part of the reason you’re introduced to him in the first place, because of Ellone wanting to find a way to change the past and prevent any of that from happening. Yet one of the things I like and respect about Laguna is that he manages to come out on the other side of all of those difficulties without losing his optimistic and hopeful demeanor or his sense of humor, though you can tell he’s matured a lot as a result of all he’s been through. Laguna rarely talks openly about his pain (other than mentioning that Ellone getting kidnapped while he was there with her was “the most painful episode of my life”). He always prefers to remain cheerful about things, even to the point of cheesiness (such as his speech about how to survive time compression).

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I always found it sadly ironic how Laguna went all the way to Esthar to rescue Ellone, and while he succeeded at that, he wasn’t able to truly save her or ever see Raine again because he got elected as president for being the “hero” of the revolution. I’m sure all he wanted was to go back to Winhill and live as a family with Ellone, Raine, and their son, but fate would not be so kind to him. Although Laguna had dreams of being a journalist and a world traveler, that little town was home to him (Interesting aside: If you go back to Winhill during the present as Squall, someone there will mention how there’s an anonymous benefactor who’s been generously supporting the town for years, and the obvious conclusion you’re meant to draw is that it’s Laguna). I was really glad when he got to go back to Winhill and finally visit Raine’s grave during the ending. Plus, the flashback scene where he proposes to her during the ending always gives me chills, probably because the music climaxes right as she hugs him. Great moment.

Finally, I wish the game had explored Laguna’s relationship with Squall a bit more. It’s so heavily implied that they’re father and son that it’s obvious that was Square’s intention (and they confirmed it in the FFVIII Ultimania, to boot). Yet you don’t get any sort of conversation between the two of them. If you talk to Laguna on the Ragnarok, he says something along the lines of, “Let’s talk when this is all over. I’ve got some things I want to share with you, but if you don’t want to, I understand.” I dunno, some people like “leaving the gaps unfilled” or what have you, but I wanted some closure on stuff like that. Plus, I still insist that Square ought to make an FFVIII-0 starring Laguna, Kiros, and Ward to cover their adventures from 18 years before the events of the game up to the present. It’d be totally awesome!

Bonus Question: Who is your favorite Final Fantasy VIII character?

Those last two paragraphs were pretty spoiler-heavy indeed...!

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Bonus Question: Who is your favorite Final Fantasy VIII character?

Omega Weapon.

No? How about Eden? Acceptable?

Bah, fine, Squall.

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From: LeonhartFour | #125

Bonus Question: Who is your favorite Final Fantasy VIII character?

Zone

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LOL Zone

Watts superior

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Yeah, the lack of closure on that issue has always been one of my biggest grievances with FFVIII. I'm glad to see you agree with me that it would have been better to actually do something with it rather than just leave it hanging. Some people like it more this way and I absolutely don't. Very Western of me, I know. So be it.

Squall is the best character. Laguna's the second best.

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From: LeonhartFour | #125

Bonus Question: Who is your favorite Final Fantasy VIII character?

Squall

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I do wish there were more Laguna sequences I guess.

Not that I want it to replace any of the Squall sequences, but because of the instruction manual, I felt the game was trying to sell this "two main characters" idea and it ended up quite lop-sided.

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Well, I thought they had a pretty good balance between them on Disc 1 and 3, but Disc 2, you get that flashback to open the disc, and that's pretty much it. Doesn't help that Disc 2 is basically the most important one in the game. Probably the longest disc, too.

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Nothing today.

Gotta get up sooner!

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Why can't you just do it after work?

You work for 12 hours or something?

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Commute is a *****?

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pjbasis posted...

Why can't you just do it after work?

You work for 12 hours or something?

Because I don't get home until right now (5:30 A.M. local time for those of you who are bad at time zones). I work 10 hour shifts, but it's also a 40 minute drive one way, so it averages out to 12+ hours total including the commute.

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Also huzzah other people talk to their games

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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

Whoo, weekend's coming, which means free time for writeups

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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

So you saving up lots of money for something?

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That would be nice, yes.

But generally just workin', payin' the bills, providin' the sustenance, etc.

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Do you have...bigger plans?

It just sounds like a graveyard shift to me.

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Yeah, I do. I'm not planning on making a career out of this or anything, but it's good money right now, so I can't complain.

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Bonus Question: What is your favorite final boss battle theme?

Dark Messenger. The extreme is also pretty good.


Bonus Question: Who is your favorite Final Fantasy VIII character?

...I'm not that fond of any FFVIII characters, in fact it pains me to even see one this high on the list that isn't Squall!

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Bump.

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That's a shame.

In brighter news, I met a family today who has a cat named Roxas! How cool is that?

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That's pretty cool.

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24. Kirby Super Star Ultra


I love Kirby, but I’ve actually beaten surprisingly few of his games (Don’t worry, you’re not reading an LMS post). I’ve played quite a few but never finished them. I haven’t played either of his offerings for the Wii, but I plan on giving them a shot eventually. But Kirby Super Star is one of those games I’ve been able to go back to time and time again because it’s just so much fun, and they added some great stuff with the Ultra port for the DS as well. It’s a bunch of different experiences all rolled into one, despite being Kirby, which I suppose is fitting for a character who can take on all sorts of different forms and powers.

For those of you who’ve never played Kirby Super Star, it’s basically a bunch of different Kirby games in one. Most of them are pretty short, and some of them are REALLY short. You can beat Spring Breeze in like 15-30 minutes. It’s only four levels long, and for the most part ridiculously easy. It’s like a tutorial more than anything else. The only part I ever struggle with is the Kracko boss fight, for whatever the reason. Dyna Blade is also pretty easy, but it’s longer and features more powers, including my personal favorite, the Yo-Yo. I love that thing. It’s got some pretty fun levels, and the final battle against Dyna Blade is pretty cool, too.

But those are just the appetizers. Once you get into The Great Cave Offensive, you get into the real meat of Kirby Super Star. It’s probably the longest game in the collection, and it’s a lot of fun. It’s unique among all these games in that it encourages exploration much more so than the others do, and it’s more open-ended. You can go back and revisit other levels to find stuff you missed and things like that. There are various treasures you can collect spread throughout, many of them references to other Nintendo series (You can actually obtain the Triforce in this game! No joke!). The Great Cave Offensive has some great boss battles as well, my personal favorite being a boss that pokes fun at old school RPG battles. It’s really neat.

Revenge of Meta Knight is a race against the clock in that each level has a time limit, but there isn’t really much pressure because you generally have more than enough time to beat the levels without worrying about it running out on you. You also get a good bit of humorous dialogue between Meta Knight and his minions as the game progresses and they’re talking about Kirby getting closer and closer to them. This game has really good level design, especially once you get onboard the Halberd, Meta Knight’s ship. It’s a really cool area. You also get an epic final clash with Meta Knight followed by a grand escape on a Wheelie.

Milky Way Wishes is probably my favorite of the bunch. It’s different from the other games in Super Star in that Kirby doesn’t get his powers from swallowing enemies. In this one, you have to find a particular icon representing a power, and once you find it, you can activate that power any time, which is neat. The various worlds are pretty cool, and the final battle against Marx is my favorite in the game. It’s actually challenging, especially for a Kirby game.

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Super Star Ultra also added some neat new modes, probably my personal favorite being Helper to Hero, which is doing the Arena (A gauntlet of bosses from Super Star) as one of the Helper Buddy powers instead of Kirby. It can be pretty tough to beat it with just one power, but I managed to do it with a Plasma Wisp. There’s also a mode where you can play through various levels in Super Star as Meta Knight, and believe it or not, he’s more broken in this game than he is in Brawl! That’s not even an exaggeration! The only part that is even remotely challenging is the new last boss they added for this Meta Knight mode, who is basically a Meta Knight clone with some beefed up powers. Because as we all know, the only thing that can beat a Meta Knight is, of course, another Meta Knight.

I know I’ve only kind of lightly touched on all the games, but the core of Kirby is in all of these games. It’s full of fun, lighthearted platforming, and playing around with the various powers the games have to offer is a blast. If you’re a fan of any other Kirby games and you haven’t played this one, you need to check it out. You won’t regret it.

Bonus Question: Which game in Kirby Super Star is your favorite?

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Can't really comment this time around. Haven't played the game. D:From: LeonhartFour | #145
That's a shame.

In brighter news, I met a family today who has a cat named Roxas! How cool is that?
lame

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From: Jeff Zero | #149

lame

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