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tereziWright
04/30/12 9:49:00 PM
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(Warning, this topic's discussion will be loaded with spoilers. If you're just starting out with Homestuck, don't go past the first post!)

Discussion Topic, where people were less prepared for a double juggalo presidency than they ever imagined.

Our Heroes:

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John Egbert, Pesterchum nickname ectoBiologist. The main character of the story, and lover of terrible movies.

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Rose Lalonde, Pesterchum nickname tentacleTherapist. A clever, sarcastic girl with a fascination for the eldritch and occult.

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Dave Strider, Pesterchum nickname turntechGodhead. A cool dude among cool dudes and master of beats and rhymes.

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Jade Harley, Pesterchum nickname gardenGnostic. A cheerful, optimistic gal with strange hunches and insights, as well as a narcolepsy problem.

Together, these four children embark on a grand adventure. While it has humble beginnings, it soon grows out of control into an epic struggle against mighty, fearsome foes, with several quirky allies joining in along the way. To discover how their story unfolds, follow the link below...


Their Story:

http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6


I'm confused and this looks pretty boring. Why should I read any further?

(Warning for those new to Homestuck, contains some minor spoilers)

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SovietOmega
04/30/12 9:51:00 PM
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yup

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HeroDelTiempo17
04/30/12 9:53:00 PM
#3:


http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=darkcage

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SuperAngelo128
04/30/12 10:00:00 PM
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From: SuperAngelo128 | #498
oh the IM logs?

yeah im reading them



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tereziWright
04/30/12 10:01:00 PM
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OK good.

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HeroDelTiempo17
04/30/12 10:43:00 PM
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I just had a conversation with my girlfriend about how the first time she read Homestuck, she missed a lot of stuff. So for example, she didn't really get what was going on in WV: Ascend (EoA2) at first because she was trying just to catch up. But for me, that's where I really got hooked because there are so many little details and foreshadowing elements in there.

Anyways

It made me realize how drastically the storytelling in Homestuck has changed. Originally, the plot would be hidden in all those weird details, but they would be almost TOO subtle at times and as a result Hussie had to write a few huge recaps to make sure that the readers didn't miss important elements. Some of the stuff in Recap 1 legitimately blew my mind because I hadn't picked up on it completely and only had the pieces floating around.
But compare that to now where we have to have all these big infodumps to explain everything and it just feels unnatural (not that big fourth-wall breaking recaps aren't as well). There's a few characters in particular that he very obviously uses for this express purpose, so it's not like a big secret. But sometimes it almost seems like he has to forfeit those characters' entire personalities just to explain what the hell is going on.

I don't think that's a fault of Hussie so much as how crazy large the scope of the story has become, combined with the unique medium for showing the story, and the sheer amount of exposition he needs to convey, but I don't think I had fully realized how many ways Homestuck had fully changed since the first few acts. It makes sense, because I remember him saying at some point something like the first four acts were about questions and Act 5 was meant to bring answers. Act 6 seems to be somewhere in between at this point, although it feels like the story could go literally anywhere from here. Including a semi-remake of Jailbreak, apparently.

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SuperAngelo128
04/30/12 11:06:00 PM
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aw yeah Sburban Jungle song

too bad it's only the first half minute but Im sure the longer version plays later

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Paratroopa1
05/01/12 2:19:00 AM
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While this is a good topic title, I kind of think "You're welcome" would've been really great as well, had we waited.
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KanzarisKelshen
05/01/12 2:35:00 AM
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From: Paratroopa1 | #008
While this is a good topic title, I kind of think "You're welcome" would've been really great as well, had we waited.


Nah, this one's better.

PS: Curse you you goddamn ninja LtM! *Shakes fist!*

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Fallacia
05/01/12 4:04:00 AM
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I start through that linked youtube page, find the Sexy Kanaya cosplay lip sync video, start going through tindeck to listen to more homestuck related parodies and covers, and then realize that hours have passed. This homestuck addiction always finds a way to keep me locked onto a computer screen.

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Altimadark
05/01/12 6:49:00 AM
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I almost wonder how the deuce Deuce got all those knives in there

But then I realized it's too funny to matter

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GeneralKenobi85
05/01/12 8:07:00 AM
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Droll is is best troll

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RyokIes
05/01/12 8:16:00 AM
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holy hell these updates have been glorious

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Pram_the_Oracle
05/01/12 8:40:00 AM
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Pfft, this title's better.

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GeneralKenobi85
05/01/12 11:43:00 AM
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From: SantaRPG | #015
also where the link to his tumblr


http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/

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GeneralKenobi85
05/01/12 11:56:00 AM
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From: SantaRPG | #019
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006781

also let's take note of the key

it was made by ms paint

Lord English is messing with jack


I guess it would be safe to assume that Lord English isn't a fan any of the Jacks.

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HeroDelTiempo17
05/01/12 1:35:00 PM
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SantaRPG posted...
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006781

also let's take note of the key

it was made by ms paint

Lord English is messing with jack


whoa that's a good catch. I thought it was just the story being self-referential again (although MSPA definitely is not done in MSPaint <_<).

Although, Ms. Paint is technically a Sburb construct, so there could just be another one of her on this session.

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Some_Character
05/01/12 1:39:00 PM
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Shadowwolf1015
05/01/12 2:25:00 PM
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you're welcome

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SuperAngelo128
05/01/12 4:36:00 PM
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finished Act 1

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Maniac64
05/01/12 4:47:00 PM
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From: SuperAngelo128 | #025
finished Act 1


Thoughts so far?

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GeneralKenobi85
05/01/12 4:50:00 PM
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Beautiful

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SuperAngelo128
05/01/12 5:08:00 PM
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eh, it's not terrible at least

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tcaz2
05/01/12 6:43:00 PM
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From: SuperAngelo128 | #028
eh, it's not terrible at least


You are on the right path, then.

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catastrophy15
05/01/12 7:21:00 PM
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Jack: Forge blade out of illicit literature.

None shall be the wiser. It is the perfect crime.

When you bust out of prison, you should be locked right back up again because of how perfect this crime is.


Yes you should Jack. Having that awesome origami technique should land you right back in jail since it is impossible for any normal person to fold a whole magazine into a knife.

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Natwaf_akidna
05/01/12 7:23:00 PM
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Oh Jack. How many different Illicit literature are there, anyway?

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HeroDelTiempo17
05/01/12 9:13:00 PM
#32:


Jack is the best.

Also Hussie seems to have updated his tumblr but the servers are down? hhbluh

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Lord Bob Bree
05/01/12 9:18:00 PM
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From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #032
Also Hussie seems to have updated his tumblr but the servers are down? hhbluh


He reblogged a picture of an embosser of himself that the Clubs Deuce "You're Welcome" was based on, I guess.

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LordoftheMorons
05/01/12 9:19:00 PM
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How do you fill a pumpkin with knives anyway

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mnkboy907
05/01/12 11:46:00 PM
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After putting this on hiatus for quite some time, I started reading this again today and got through the end of Act 5. I'm sure I forgot key details during my break, but I think I remembered enough from reading it again.

Anyway, so this might be spoilers, but am I ever going to see John and Karkat and all them again? Getting invested with all new characters again seems so draining.

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tereziWright
05/01/12 11:47:00 PM
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You will see them again. Soon.

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Lord Bob Bree
05/01/12 11:49:00 PM
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Prospitians wonder every day why they are destined to lose.

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tcaz2
05/01/12 11:49:00 PM
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Why do you think you wouldn't see them again? <.<

Their story clearly isn't over.

But yes you will see them again.

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mnkboy907
05/01/12 11:49:00 PM
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Yay.

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mnkboy907
05/01/12 11:50:00 PM
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From: tcaz2 | #039
Why do you think you wouldn't see them again? <.<

Their story clearly isn't over.

But yes you will see them again.


Well I was under the impression this new world was a reset. Or whatever they created. Or something.

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HeroDelTiempo17
05/01/12 11:53:00 PM
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From: mnkboy907 | #041
Well I was under the impression this new world was a reset. Or whatever they created. Or something.


It's both of those things but it is eventually explained what's going on with the other characters, although the information is already all there by that point.

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tcaz2
05/01/12 11:55:00 PM
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From: mnkboy907 | #041
Well I was under the impression this new world was a reset. Or whatever they created. Or something.


Yeah but you literally just saw them all escape the reset >.>

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mnkboy907
05/02/12 12:01:00 AM
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Well I saw stuff. No way was I interpreting everything in that long video in one go. God Tier Jade (well, I'm guessing she's God Tier now) and John went somewhere. Rose and Dave were with Dead? Aradia and Dead/Sleeping? Sollux, so I guess they both died? And then the trolls flew into the green light and I think through the fifth wall glass barrier thing. But there was that small bit with Gamzee where it said SUCKERS on the screen, like he was tricking them all or something.

Frankly I have no idea what was going on with the exiles. Jack cocooned himself after Jade died, and then he killed everyone but the I-don't-remember-her-initials girl, who then put on the ring and then stuff happened?

Uh, yep.

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tereziWright
05/02/12 12:03:00 AM
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From: mnkboy907 | #044
Well I saw stuff. No way was I interpreting everything in that long video in one go. God Tier Jade (well, I'm guessing she's God Tier now) and John went somewhere. Rose and Dave were with Dead? Aradia and Dead/Sleeping? Sollux, so I guess they both died? And then the trolls flew into the green light and I think through the fifth wall glass barrier thing. But there was that small bit with Gamzee where it said SUCKERS on the screen, like he was tricking them all or something.

Frankly I have no idea what was going on with the exiles. Jack cocooned himself after Jade died, and then he killed everyone but the I-don't-remember-her-initials girl, who then put on the ring and then stuff happened?

Uh, yep.


http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11938555890/about-eoa5-part-1
http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11941710181/about-eoa5-part-2
http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11960418585/about-eoa5-part-3
http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/11975241895/about-eoa5-part-4
http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/12341136347/le-factoids

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mnkboy907
05/02/12 12:05:00 AM
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I'm sure those links were much needed. I'll read them tomorrow, thanks.

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HeroDelTiempo17
05/02/12 12:08:00 AM
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You don't have to, it all gets explained in-comic.

It's an interesting read, but ultimately that reason most of that explanation was posted was because it took him somewhere from a month and a half to two months to reach the point in the comic where he could explain what happened in Cascade.

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HeroDelTiempo17
05/02/12 12:15:00 AM
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Actually from your post, the only thing you mention that I don't think gets called out specifically is about Aradia, Sollux, Rose, and Dave, and that's only because you're a little confused. They didn't die because they weren't in the game session when it reset, or our universe when it was killed. Remember, the Outer Ring, where the Green Sun is, exists outside of spacetime.

And you say you don't know what was going on with the exiles but....I mean, you pretty much got it. <_< That's exactly what happened. Jack escaped the session that was being reset, came through and slaughtered everyone, and escaped the universe that was being destroyed.

That said if you're still confused or just interested then by all means read the tumblr posts, but they aren't required reading.

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mnkboy907
05/02/12 12:25:00 AM
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From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #048
Actually from your post, the only thing you mention that I don't think gets called out specifically is about Aradia, Sollux, Rose, and Dave, and that's only because you're a little confused. They didn't die because they weren't in the game session when it reset, or our universe when it was killed. Remember, the Outer Ring, where the Green Sun is, exists outside of spacetime.


Everyone kept saying it was a suicide mission, so I just kind of assumed they died and showed up in dream bubble land. But Karkat also said at least one of the Derse dreamers needed to stay alive for the new universe, which led me to believe something could've gone wrong, causing them all not to cross over into the new universe (thus me asking if they were going to show up again).

And you say you don't know what was going on with the exiles but....I mean, you pretty much got it. <_< That's exactly what happened. Jack escaped the session that was being reset, came through and slaughtered everyone, and escaped the universe that was being destroyed.


Well then I still don't understand what happened after the mail lady put on the ring, or where Jack and her stand now. But I'm sure that'll be addressed.

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tereziWright
05/02/12 12:31:00 AM
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Well then I still don't understand what happened after the mail lady put on the ring

Same thing that happened when Jack did.

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