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mnkboy907
05/04/12 12:26:00 PM
#101:


From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #099
Wait, did you skip all of Scratch's stuff about the ancestors, then? Most of it probably isn't...that important, but that's where it talked about the Handmaid and the Condesce's roles, and foreshadowed the Scratch and some things that might happen with Karkat later. I think it was stated that the Handmaid acted on Alternia while the Condesce worked for Lord English on Earth, but I'm not sure.


I read it, but frankly I didn't spend much time trying to figure it out. I wasn't entirely sure how it fit in with everything. In an effort to get caught up, I don't spend much time thinking over the things I just read. So if stuff doesn't immediately click while I'm reading it, I just move on and figure if it's important it'll come up again and make more sense.

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HeroDelTiempo17
05/04/12 12:28:00 PM
#102:


she's a vampire because that would be a thing that is awesome

It wasn't explained, but it was vaguely hinted at because she's the only troll that could go out during the daytime and had a few pages where she idolized rainbow drinkers and tried to drink some blood.

Also Kanaya is awesome.

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GeneralKenobi85
05/04/12 12:30:00 PM
#103:


Plus we'll most definitely be seeing the other trolls again, so it's no huge loss.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
05/04/12 12:52:00 PM
#104:


After catching up, every archive binge reader is obliged to start over and read the whole thing again.

There's so very much a first-time reader rushing to catch up won't get, and it only results in a lot of bad, non-informed posts on forums and dozens of pages of Hussie having to explain everything we already know over again so the clueless people understand it.

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tereziWright
05/04/12 1:10:00 PM
#105:


Kanaya hate time to bail.

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mnkboy907
05/04/12 1:24:00 PM
#106:


Hahaha, I'm laughing so much at this conversation between Karkat and Dave. I'm calling it, Karkat's going to start developing black feelings for Dave.

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tcaz2
05/04/12 3:37:00 PM
#107:


Kanaya's pretty cool

Not the best troll but I like her.

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mnkboy907
05/04/12 4:01:00 PM
#108:


I don't dislike her or anything. I like her sorta obliviousness to a lot of the things the humans say.

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VintageGin
05/04/12 4:56:00 PM
#109:


mnkboy907 posted...
Also, I'm a little disappointed they couldn't have had a better troll survive to the end instead of Kanaya.

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tereziWright
05/04/12 5:02:00 PM
#110:


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mnkboy907
05/04/12 5:15:00 PM
#111:


I wonder what you guys will do if I say Tavros is my favorite troll.

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tereziWright
05/04/12 5:18:00 PM
#112:


Ouch.

Well I've known people who's favorite troll WAS Tavros at first, at the very least. I mean, none of them think that any more....

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tereziWright
05/04/12 5:54:00 PM
#114:


Bad GIFs

Homestuck

I don't understand

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mnkboy907
05/04/12 6:09:00 PM
#115:


I feel like it took me a lot longer than it should've to get through that game.

EDIT: Oh, there's more. Okay.

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mnkboy907
05/04/12 6:24:00 PM
#116:


Oh hey, speaking of Tavros...

omfg, that just happened.

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mnkboy907
05/04/12 6:48:00 PM
#117:


Tavrisprite just might be the greatest thing fiction has ever created.

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catastrophy15
05/04/12 6:58:00 PM
#118:


mnkboy907 posted...
Tavrisprite just might be the greatest thing fiction has ever created.

It was an abomination. I would have rather seen a Neperidsprite (Nepeta+Eridan) and I hate the thought of that happening.

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Nogoodnamesnow
05/04/12 11:06:00 PM
#119:


So, Homestuck Book two is finally on TopatoCo:

http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=MSPA-HOMESTUCK-BOOK02&Category_Code=ALL

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Luis_Sera89
05/04/12 11:17:00 PM
#120:


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Amazing.

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Paratroopa1
05/05/12 2:12:00 AM
#121:


Does anyone know how long it took the first book to sell out? I want to buy this but I need to scrounge up some money over the weekend to do it.
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Nogoodnamesnow
05/05/12 1:25:00 PM
#122:


It was around a day or so? I think. I got mine pretty early but I know it sold quick. But this time there are also some copies being sold at TCAF which should slow down TopatoCo's stock draining a little.

Either way, it didn't take TOO long for them to restock last time, so it isn't all that bad if you do have to wait.

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mnkboy907
05/05/12 2:07:00 PM
#123:


The books follow the established storyline, right? How do they handle the parts told in the flash animations? Or the parts where you walk around and stuff, assuming they've gotten that far.

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Azp2k32
05/05/12 2:13:00 PM
#124:


mnkboy907 posted...
The books follow the established storyline, right? How do they handle the parts told in the flash animations? Or the parts where you walk around and stuff, assuming they've gotten that far.

I don't think we've gotten any walkarounds, but for the first book you're just given stuff like, pages with a bloc of like 9 progressing images on them. Even Hussie admits that the book is an inferior way to experience HS; he spoils later stuff in the author notes even since I suppose he expects everyone reading the book to be a huge HS fan that's up to date on the webste. >_> His author notes are fantastic though and foreshadowed a lot of the stuff that happened at the beginning of Act 6.

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RyokIes
05/05/12 5:59:00 PM
#127:


hey santa completely random but wtf was that drawing you sent me >_>

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RyokIes
05/05/12 6:20:00 PM
#129:


it was like a monster with stars and the back of some blonde girl in a black dress with a red ribbon

literally spent ten minutes laughing at it because i can't possibly think of anything it could be

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mnkboy907
05/05/12 10:49:00 PM
#131:


omg, finally caught up.

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mnkboy907
05/06/12 5:03:00 PM
#132:


Well, now that I'm done, maybe I should do rankings.

PRE-SCRATCH HUMANS
John > Dave > Jade > Rose

Jade may be annoying at times, but I wasn't very fond of the direction Rose took during their session. Dark Rose just didn't cut it for me, whereas Jade started to grow on me over time. Dave is clearly above both of them and that's all that needs to be said on that matter. John is my favorite character overall, so yay him.

POST-SCRATCH HUMANS
Dirk > Jake > Roxy > Jane

I might be a little biased, but I just love it when writers can make characters gay without that being all there is to them. Dirk is badass first and foremost, and just happens to be gay and Jake needs to f***ing prepare himself for that s***. I do wonder if Dave's Bro is also gay, or if perhaps it's only because of the circumstances Dirk grew up in. Trolls don't have any concept of homosexuality, and Dirk was born in a time ruled by a troll overlord. Then again, Dave's Bro DOES have all those smuppets...

Oh, uh, got off topic there. Next is Jake, because he's pretty awesome too. Roxy is perpetually drunk 15/16 year old. Awesome. Jane's not bad or anything, but she's just rather bland compared to everyone else.

HUMANS COMBINED
John > Dirk > Dave > Jake > Roxy > Jade > Rose > Jane

Yep.

...POST-SCRATCH TROLLS? (this is post-Scratch, right?)
Tavros > Karkat > Vriska > Terezi > Equius > Eridan > Aradia > Sollux > Kanaya > Gamzee > Feferi > Nepeta

Objectively speaking, I know at the very least that Karkat, Vriska, and Terezi are better characters than Tavros. But still, best doesn't always equal favorite. I think Tavros has the best design (best horns, really), and I really like his personality.

After Terezi, it starts getting a little harder to rank the other trolls. A lot of them really didn't have a ton of screentime. Equius's superiority fetish is basically what lands him is spot, I think that's f***ing hilarious. Don't really have much to say about Eridan or Aradia.

Something about Sollux didn't particularly click for me, but he's still not bad. He's probably the troll that most deserved additional focus. Early on, I felt they were setting him up to be pretty important, but they never really followed through on that. I've already expressed some of my opinions on Kanaya, but upon reflection for these rankings, I realized she wasn't really bottom tier after all.

Gamzee being this low is probably an unpopular opinion, but I just don't care for the juggalo thing at all. Still, he does enough humorous things to push him over the last two (creating Tavrisprite almost pushed him over Kanaya, but eh...).

Feferi and Nepeta just didn't have a whole lot going on for them. Feferi also would've benefited from having more focus, and I would've liked her to take on more of a leadership role. That didn't happen, though, so oops. Down near the bottom she goes. I think Nepeta had the least screentime, and her personality basically boiled down to "likes cats".


I'm not going to rank the other trolls yet, since there's still not a lot to go on for them yet. Buuuut, I guess preliminary rankings would go Meenah > Aranea and undyingUmbrage > uranianUmbra. Personality trumps non-personality for both inequalities.

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YetAnothrShadow
05/06/12 5:05:00 PM
#133:


> Roxy
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RyokIes
05/06/12 5:12:00 PM
#134:


your reason for having tavros as your favorite are pretty much the same for why eridan is mine. I know deep down in my heart that those three are the best, but i just can't heeelp it

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GeneralKenobi85
05/06/12 7:04:00 PM
#135:


Roxy not best or second best human

Nepeta last troll

Just terrible.

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Natwaf_akidna
05/06/12 7:07:00 PM
#136:


Feferi >

HELL NO

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tcaz2
05/06/12 7:08:00 PM
#137:


From: GeneralKenobi85 | #135
Roxy not best or second best human

Nepeta last troll

Just terrible.


This.

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kevwaffles
05/06/12 7:48:00 PM
#138:


From: mnkboy907 | #132
John > Dirk > Dave > Jake > Roxy > Jade > Rose > Jane


Sexist

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mnkboy907
05/06/12 7:55:00 PM
#139:


What do people see in Nepeta? There was basically nothing to her.

From: kevwaffles | #138
Sexist


Hey, I like all of them! The guys are just, well, better.

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kevwaffles
05/06/12 8:02:00 PM
#140:


I'm just giving you crap.

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GeneralKenobi85
05/06/12 8:05:00 PM
#141:


Did you play through Equius: Seek the Highb100d?

It made both Nepeta and Equius shine in my opinion. Actually, Nepeta is Equius' saving grace to me. He's one of the worst trolls alone, but when speaking to Nepeta he becomes a better character.

I mean she's not really up there with the best trolls, but to rank at least Feferi over her is a crime.

Also, we apparently really like the cat stuff.

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mnkboy907
05/06/12 8:11:00 PM
#142:


Well I guess Nepeta did have some lasting impact, evidenced by Gamzee's face.

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SovietOmega
05/06/12 8:12:00 PM
#143:


mnkboy907 posted...
What do people see in Nepeta? There was basically nothing to her.

From: kevwaffles | #138
Sexist
Hey, I like all of them! The guys are just, well, better.


because she is kitty and kitties are adorbes. also cat puns.

subjectivity aside, she really is one of the weaker trolls (if only she were STRONG like equius) by virtue of no screen time or development. but what is there is still more awesome than some other trolls.

so what do people see in nepeta? cat puns and kawaii. a paper thin tiger of a character, but still enjoyable.

kitty <3 *glomp*

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SSBM_Guy
05/06/12 8:17:00 PM
#144:


Oh god, Nepeta last on trolls? That is so awesome. I don't like Nepeta that much. It really doesn't help that her fanbase is really obnoxious. But I think she's at least better than Feferi. If Nepeta is "likes cats", Feferi is "likes fish". And Nepeta and Equius's friendship is a lot better than Eridan and Feferi's friendship...thing.

Full kid ranking...I dunno if I can do that, Beta kids have so much more screentime than Alpha kids that it's unfair. I didn't really like Grimdark Rose that much either, but early Rose and current Rose are both so, so good.

Tavros as favorite, huh. I can see why and I have a similar attitude towards Gamzee and Eridan. Still, I really like Karkat, Vriska, and Terezi too. Not only are they really well-developed, but they are really great, fun, and just generally amazing characters.

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SovietOmega
05/06/12 8:19:00 PM
#145:


i love fish :33

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Natwaf_akidna
05/06/12 8:21:00 PM
#146:


Nepeta had a shipping wall.

Which is likely more detrimental than a plus, for most.

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SovietOmega
05/06/12 8:24:00 PM
#147:


i don't even care about shipping at all, but nepeta made it kinda sorta ok.

sorta.

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Paratroopa1
05/06/12 8:29:00 PM
#149:


Nepeta is an anime catgirl troll that ships her real life friends. That's a f***ing hilarious concept. That's basically all that there is to Nepeta, but I find her gimmick at least a little funny.
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mnkboy907
05/06/12 8:31:00 PM
#150:


From: SSBM_Guy | #144
But I think she's at least better than Feferi. If Nepeta is "likes cats", Feferi is "likes fish".


What put her above Nepeta for me was her attitude about the hemospectrum and what her goals were for when/if she became ruler. That and she didn't *speaks only in roleplay*.

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