Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 182: Sink Beneath Hate

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JaKyL25 04/03/12 12:34:00 PM #352:	Don't get your hopes up TOO much on Constant Brock, guys. He reportedly HATES to travel. I'm sure he'll be around more than Rock but I highly doubt he's an every week player. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:980173] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Don't get your hopes up TOO much on Constant Brock, guys. He reportedly HATES to travel. I'm sure he'll be around more than Rock but I highly doubt he's an every week player. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 04/03/12 12:36:00 PM #353:	Which I guess also means he will be missing most(all) house shows. Pity. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:980174] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Which I guess also means he will be missing most(all) house shows. Pity. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngThe one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DSAutoResponder 04/03/12 12:36:00 PM #354:	*Jakyl25 posted...* Don't get your hopes up TOO much on Constant Brock, guys. He reportedly HATES to travel. I'm sure he'll be around more than Rock but I highly doubt he's an every week player. word is he's slated for a minimum two appearances a month, with the option of negotiating more dates <cite>DSAutoResponder posted [p:980175] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Jakyl25 posted...Don't get your hopes up TOO much on Constant Brock, guys. He reportedly HATES to travel. I'm sure he'll be around more than Rock but I highly doubt he's an every week player.word is he's slated for a minimum two appearances a month, with the option of negotiating more dates </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 04/03/12 12:36:00 PM #355:	The word has been he's signed to make two appearances a month. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i55.tinypic.com/30sga2r.gif <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:980176] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> The word has been he's signed to make two appearances a month. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i55.tinypic.com/30sga2r.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Masato_Tanaka 04/03/12 12:37:00 PM #356:	http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/218-pro-wrestling-wwe/62436210 -- Yo Where All The White Women At <cite>Masato_Tanaka posted [p:980177] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/218-pro-wrestling-wwe/62436210 -- Yo Where All The White Women At </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
THEDavyJones 04/03/12 12:38:00 PM #357:	*Jakyl25 posted...* From: edwardsdv \| #343 If Punk is the best in the world why has he been in the 10 pm slot so often and not the main event. Because he's not the Best in the World at ratings. <_< Sadly, this seems to be the trend. A lot of Punk matches, including overruns, have been losing viewers. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide <cite>THEDavyJones posted [p:980178] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Jakyl25 posted...From: edwardsdv \| #343If Punk is the best in the world why has he been in the 10 pm slot so often and not the main event.Because he's not the Best in the World at ratings. <_<Sadly, this seems to be the trend. A lot of Punk matches, including overruns, have been losing viewers. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 04/03/12 12:40:00 PM #358:	From: Lopen \| #351 Eh I think you're over exaggerating a bit edwards. I don't think normal people think of things in hierarchies like that, especially given the indecisive nature of Rock's win over Cena. It's like in TEW when you have two guys with 100 over fight and the loser finishes at like 97 over and then you do an angle or three and he's back to 100 over. In all seriousness though I actually think TEW has the right idea here-- guys who reach "that level" aren't really going to be put below it by one loss-- especially one where they looked strong in defeat. You pretty much need to squash a guy or have him have a losing streak or lose to some guy that's way below their level for it to really dent them. WWE likes doing all 3 of these things pretty often so Cena got off easy. Brock's return should make good TV. That's all that really matters. I mean I guess if he goes dominantly undefeated the whole year (+?) he's around that's not great but I don't think that'll be close to the case. And if it's not even if he beats some guys like Cena from time to time as long as it's good TV everyone wins. Eh, yeah youre probably right. It'll be good tv while it lasts. I'm just hoping it doesn't get in the way of other stuff, particularly I hope it doesn't delay elevating some of these talented undercard guys who are only getting older. And this DB stuff...we'll see where we are a month from now. YES has been around for awhile now and this is mostly in protest to THE SQUASH. We should find out nearly immediately if this is going to stick (and I mean like tonight at Smackdown) -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:980179] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: Lopen \| #351Eh I think you're over exaggerating a bit edwards. I don't think normal people think of things in hierarchies like that, especially given the indecisive nature of Rock's win over Cena.It's like in TEW when you have two guys with 100 over fight and the loser finishes at like 97 over and then you do an angle or three and he's back to 100 over. In all seriousness though I actually think TEW has the right idea here-- guys who reach "that level" aren't really going to be put below it by one loss-- especially one where they looked strong in defeat. You pretty much need to squash a guy or have him have a losing streak or lose to some guy that's way below their level for it to really dent them. WWE likes doing all 3 of these things pretty often so Cena got off easy. Brock's return should make good TV. That's all that really matters. I mean I guess if he goes dominantly undefeated the whole year (+?) he's around that's not great but I don't think that'll be close to the case. And if it's not even if he beats some guys like Cena from time to time as long as it's good TV everyone wins.Eh, yeah youre probably right. It'll be good tv while it lasts. I'm just hoping it doesn't get in the way of other stuff, particularly I hope it doesn't delay elevating some of these talented undercard guys who are only getting older.And this DB stuff...we'll see where we are a month from now. YES has been around for awhile now and this is mostly in protest to THE SQUASH. We should find out nearly immediately if this is going to stick (and I mean like tonight at Smackdown) -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngThe one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 04/03/12 12:43:00 PM #359:	Hey, at least Trips and Undertaker got out of the way -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:980180] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Hey, at least Trips and Undertaker got out of the way -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 04/03/12 12:43:00 PM #360:	From: THEDavyJones \| #357 Sadly, this seems to be the trend. A lot of Punk matches, including overruns, have been losing viewers. I really do think this is just one of those "You have to be patient" things. These guys have jobbed and/or not been main event level for so long that it probably takes an adjustment period before casual fans see them and think "Hey, he's worth watching" instead of "Oh, garbage time." The main event has been John Cena for so long, I think it just needs to... not be him for a while. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i40.tinypic.com/avgffm.jpg <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:980181] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: THEDavyJones \| #357Sadly, this seems to be the trend. A lot of Punk matches, including overruns, have been losing viewers.I really do think this is just one of those "You have to be patient" things. These guys have jobbed and/or not been main event level for so long that it probably takes an adjustment period before casual fans see them and think "Hey, he's worth watching" instead of "Oh, garbage time." The main event has been John Cena for so long, I think it just needs to... not be him for a while. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i40.tinypic.com/avgffm.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 04/03/12 12:44:00 PM #361:	From: Rad Link 5 \| #359 I really do think this is just one of those "You have to be patient" things. These guys have jobbed and/or not been main event level for so long that it probably takes an adjustment period before casual fans see them and think "Hey, he's worth watching" instead of "Oh, garbage time." The main event has been John Cena for so long, I think it just needs to... not be him for a while. Which would be fine if John Cena not in the title mix ACTUALLY MEANT John Cena not in the main event. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:980182] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: Rad Link 5 \| #359I really do think this is just one of those "You have to be patient" things. These guys have jobbed and/or not been main event level for so long that it probably takes an adjustment period before casual fans see them and think "Hey, he's worth watching" instead of "Oh, garbage time." The main event has been John Cena for so long, I think it just needs to... not be him for a while.Which would be fine if John Cena not in the title mix ACTUALLY MEANT John Cena not in the main event. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngThe one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 04/03/12 12:44:00 PM #362:	From: Jakyl25 \| #360 Hey, at least Trips and Undertaker got out of the way This much is true.....hopefully. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:980183] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: Jakyl25 \| #360Hey, at least Trips and Undertaker got out of the wayThis much is true.....hopefully. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngThe one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 04/03/12 12:45:00 PM #363:	From: edwardsdv \| #358 this is mostly in protest to THE SQUASH Crowd was going nuts for him at Wrestlemania even before THE SQUASH. They have been fairly loud for him for a while now. And there's been more and more YES! signs showing up on the way to Wrestlemania. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5783/3989110m.png <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:980184] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: edwardsdv \| #358this is mostly in protest to THE SQUASHCrowd was going nuts for him at Wrestlemania even before THE SQUASH. They have been fairly loud for him for a while now. And there's been more and more YES! signs showing up on the way to Wrestlemania. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5783/3989110m.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 04/03/12 12:48:00 PM #364:	From: edwardsdv \| #361 Which would be fine if John Cena not in the title mix ACTUALLY MEANT John Cena not in the main event. Exactly, but unfortunately, short of him being confined to a hospital bed for six months, that's not going to happen, so the best we can do to try and legitimize Punk is, I guess, to keep the title on him for a really long time while he beats guys like Jericho and... uh... Mark Henry? I mean let's not forget, part of legitimizing John Cena was having two title reigns over a year long each. Granted, that involved actually beating established threats, and all Punk has on that front right now is Jericho, but I'm just saying, they shouldn't give up on Punk just because he's not pulling ratings yet. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i56.tinypic.com/54t201.gif <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:980185] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: edwardsdv \| #361Which would be fine if John Cena not in the title mix ACTUALLY MEANT John Cena not in the main event.Exactly, but unfortunately, short of him being confined to a hospital bed for six months, that's not going to happen, so the best we can do to try and legitimize Punk is, I guess, to keep the title on him for a really long time while he beats guys like Jericho and... uh... Mark Henry?I mean let's not forget, part of legitimizing John Cena was having two title reigns over a year long each. Granted, that involved actually beating established threats, and all Punk has on that front right now is Jericho, but I'm just saying, they shouldn't give up on Punk just because he's not pulling ratings yet. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i56.tinypic.com/54t201.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 04/03/12 12:50:00 PM #365:	Also I want to say kudos to Ziggler last night on that Funkasaurus headbutt sell. And LOL @ Jericho for slipping in his own whiskey bath. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:980186] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Also I want to say kudos to Ziggler last night on that Funkasaurus headbutt sell.And LOL @ Jericho for slipping in his own whiskey bath. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
THEDavyJones 04/03/12 12:53:00 PM #366:	*Rad Link 5 posted...* From: THEDavyJones \| #357 Sadly, this seems to be the trend. A lot of Punk matches, including overruns, have been losing viewers. I really do think this is just one of those "You have to be patient" things. These guys have jobbed and/or not been main event level for so long that it probably takes an adjustment period before casual fans see them and think "Hey, he's worth watching" instead of "Oh, garbage time." The main event has been John Cena for so long, I think it just needs to... not be him for a while. I'd agree with the patience thing if it hasn't been nine months since he was elevated back into the ME scene and given his first WWE championship reign. People seemed to be getting less interested in Punk, not more, and I don't think it's simply because he's not in the overrun slot every night. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide <cite>THEDavyJones posted [p:980187] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Rad Link 5 posted...From: THEDavyJones \| #357Sadly, this seems to be the trend. A lot of Punk matches, including overruns, have been losing viewers.I really do think this is just one of those "You have to be patient" things. These guys have jobbed and/or not been main event level for so long that it probably takes an adjustment period before casual fans see them and think "Hey, he's worth watching" instead of "Oh, garbage time." The main event has been John Cena for so long, I think it just needs to... not be him for a while.I'd agree with the patience thing if it hasn't been nine months since he was elevated back into the ME scene and given his first WWE championship reign.People seemed to be getting less interested in Punk, not more, and I don't think it's simply because he's not in the overrun slot every night. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
muddersmilk 04/03/12 12:55:00 PM #367:	Poor Sheamus though. He's the real victim here. Heel turn him. Admittedly they don't really need another big strong heel but he could have crazy heat. -- (Maniac64 at work) All the proteins, vitamins, and carbs of your grandma's best turkey dinner, plus 15% alcohol. <cite>muddersmilk posted [p:980188] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Poor Sheamus though. He's the real victim here.Heel turn him. Admittedly they don't really need another big strong heel but he could have crazy heat. -- (Maniac64 at work) All the proteins, vitamins, and carbs of your grandma's best turkey dinner, plus 15% alcohol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 04/03/12 12:55:00 PM #368:	From: THEDavyJones \| #366 I'd agree with the patience thing if it hasn't been nine months since he was elevated back into the ME scene and given his first WWE championship reign. People seemed to be getting less interested in Punk, not more, and I don't think it's simply because he's not in the overrun slot every night. it has to do with how hes been booked. big johnny feud didnt draw people in and he hasnt had an angle that was treated as HUGE since then. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:980189] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: THEDavyJones \| #366I'd agree with the patience thing if it hasn't been nine months since he was elevated back into the ME scene and given his first WWE championship reign.People seemed to be getting less interested in Punk, not more, and I don't think it's simply because he's not in the overrun slot every night.it has to do with how hes been booked. big johnny feud didnt draw people in and he hasnt had an angle that was treated as HUGE since then. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngThe one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 04/03/12 12:55:00 PM #369:	From: Rad Link 5 \| #290 And this happened on a night where Prince Albert, Alberto Del Rio, and Brock Lesnar all returned Don't forget Abraham Washington! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:980190] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: Rad Link 5 \| #290And this happened on a night where Prince Albert, Alberto Del Rio, and Brock Lesnar all returnedDon't forget Abraham Washington! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DSAutoResponder 04/03/12 12:59:00 PM #370:	kayfabe lives with dean ambrose and mick foley <cite>DSAutoResponder posted [p:980191] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> kayfabe lives with dean ambrose and mick foley </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 04/03/12 12:59:00 PM #371:	From: THEDavyJones \| #366 I'd agree with the patience thing if it hasn't been nine months since he was elevated back into the ME scene and given his first WWE championship reign. People seemed to be getting less interested in Punk, not more, and I don't think it's simply because he's not in the overrun slot every night. Punk has been called a "main eventer" more by virtue of holding the WWE Championship than actually being in any main events. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i56.tinypic.com/2117wag.jpg <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:980192] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: THEDavyJones \| #366I'd agree with the patience thing if it hasn't been nine months since he was elevated back into the ME scene and given his first WWE championship reign.People seemed to be getting less interested in Punk, not more, and I don't think it's simply because he's not in the overrun slot every night.Punk has been called a "main eventer" more by virtue of holding the WWE Championship than actually being in any main events. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i56.tinypic.com/2117wag.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 04/03/12 1:01:00 PM #372:	Has Dana cut all ties with Brock yet? -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. <cite>voltch posted [p:980193] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Has Dana cut all ties with Brock yet? -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DSAutoResponder 04/03/12 1:01:00 PM #373:	*voltch posted...* Has Dana cut all ties with Brock yet? he gave his bless for all this, actually <cite>DSAutoResponder posted [p:980194] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> voltch posted...Has Dana cut all ties with Brock yet?he gave his bless for all this, actually </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DSAutoResponder 04/03/12 1:02:00 PM #374:	*DSAutoResponder posted...* kayfabe lives with dean ambrose and mick foley and people really ought to watch this <cite>DSAutoResponder posted [p:980195] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> DSAutoResponder posted...kayfabe lives with dean ambrose and mick foleyand people really ought to watch this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 04/03/12 1:03:00 PM #375:	From: DSAutoResponder \| #370 kayfabe lives with dean ambrose and mick foley REALITY ERA'd -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3984/tumblrle5rxjm27j1qcrr8a.gif <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:980196] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: DSAutoResponder \| #370kayfabe lives with dean ambrose and mick foleyREALITY ERA'd -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3984/tumblrle5rxjm27j1qcrr8a.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 04/03/12 1:03:00 PM #376:	From: DSAutoResponder \| #370 kayfabe lives with dean ambrose and mick foley Whoa -- http://www.celebrityclubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Sort_of_want.jpg <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:980197] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: DSAutoResponder \| #370kayfabe lives with dean ambrose and mick foleyWhoa -- http://www.celebrityclubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Sort_of_want.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 04/03/12 1:03:00 PM #377:	Yeah, Dana basically said 'Brock was under contract but he retired, so he can do whatever' -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:980198] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, Dana basically said 'Brock was under contract but he retired, so he can do whatever' -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neonreaper 04/03/12 1:04:00 PM #378:	Punk might have some trouble there, his whole "agent of change" thing isn't really a big deal anymore. Now he's just another WWE Superstar who certainly has some ring psychology sensibilities but he's not a big deal. The mob is fickle and they're not going to watch Punk at 11 if they aren't watching him at 10. I really don't think it's a matter of telling people "this guy is champ and he's the main event" means they are necessarily going to buy in if the guy isn't compelling to them. -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. <cite>neonreaper posted [p:980199] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Punk might have some trouble there, his whole "agent of change" thing isn't really a big deal anymore. Now he's just another WWE Superstar who certainly has some ring psychology sensibilities but he's not a big deal. The mob is fickle and they're not going to watch Punk at 11 if they aren't watching him at 10. I really don't think it's a matter of telling people "this guy is champ and he's the main event" means they are necessarily going to buy in if the guy isn't compelling to them. -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter?Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neonreaper 04/03/12 1:07:00 PM #379:	Brock was basically unreliable (not his fault) and honestly not very good, I'm not sure how much more of a draw he'd be for Dana. Dana is probably wicked happy with what he got out of Brock. -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. <cite>neonreaper posted [p:980200] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Brock was basically unreliable (not his fault) and honestly not very good, I'm not sure how much more of a draw he'd be for Dana. Dana is probably wicked happy with what he got out of Brock. -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter?Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 04/03/12 1:07:00 PM #380:	From: Rad Link 5 \| #371 Punk has been called a "main eventer" more by virtue of holding the WWE Championship than actually being in any main events. PPV main eventers (i.e. "last match") in the last year (12 PPVs, not counting the Rumble PPV at all, and not counting Del Rio's cash-in as the last match): John Cena: 10 CM Punk: 4 The Miz: 4 Alberto Del Rio: 3 The Rock: 2 R-Truth: 2 John Morrison: 1 Triple H: 1 Kane: 1 So if Punk's not a main-eventer then no one outside of Cena is. <_< -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:980201] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: Rad Link 5 \| #371Punk has been called a "main eventer" more by virtue of holding the WWE Championship than actually being in any main events.PPV main eventers (i.e. "last match") in the last year (12 PPVs, not counting the Rumble PPV at all, and not counting Del Rio's cash-in as the last match):John Cena: 10CM Punk: 4The Miz: 4Alberto Del Rio: 3The Rock: 2R-Truth: 2John Morrison: 1Triple H: 1Kane: 1So if Punk's not a main-eventer then no one outside of Cena is. <_< -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 04/03/12 1:08:00 PM #381:	Anyone would be happy with a surefire 1m draw guy. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. <cite>voltch posted [p:980202] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Anyone would be happy with a surefire 1m draw guy. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 04/03/12 1:09:00 PM #382:	From: neonreaper \| #378 Punk might have some trouble there, his whole "agent of change" thing isn't really a big deal anymore. Now he's just another WWE Superstar who certainly has some ring psychology sensibilities but he's not a big deal. The mob is fickle and they're not going to watch Punk at 11 if they aren't watching him at 10. I really don't think it's a matter of telling people "this guy is champ and he's the main event" means they are necessarily going to buy in if the guy isn't compelling to them. That's not what I'm saying. I've long been hearing this idea that "casual fans see these guys given opportunities, and they think, because said guys have been treated so lowly for so long, that it's a sign of desperation on WWE's part and they just tune out." I didn't think there was much merit to it before, but I don't know how else you explain the fact that no one gets over with casuals anymore. I think you have to keep plugging these guys in at 11 and in main events, even if people keep tuning out, so that they start to change their perception of them. Maybe that won't work, but you've got to try something. What else are you gonna do? Keep putting John Cena in the main event slot until he can't wrestle anymore and then close the WWE? -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5763/cliftoncartoon.jpg <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:980203] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: neonreaper \| #378Punk might have some trouble there, his whole "agent of change" thing isn't really a big deal anymore. Now he's just another WWE Superstar who certainly has some ring psychology sensibilities but he's not a big deal. The mob is fickle and they're not going to watch Punk at 11 if they aren't watching him at 10. I really don't think it's a matter of telling people "this guy is champ and he's the main event" means they are necessarily going to buy in if the guy isn't compelling to them.That's not what I'm saying. I've long been hearing this idea that "casual fans see these guys given opportunities, and they think, because said guys have been treated so lowly for so long, that it's a sign of desperation on WWE's part and they just tune out." I didn't think there was much merit to it before, but I don't know how else you explain the fact that no one gets over with casuals anymore.I think you have to keep plugging these guys in at 11 and in main events, even if people keep tuning out, so that they start to change their perception of them. Maybe that won't work, but you've got to try something. What else are you gonna do? Keep putting John Cena in the main event slot until he can't wrestle anymore and then close the WWE? -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5763/cliftoncartoon.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 04/03/12 1:09:00 PM #383:	Also it's weird to think that Morrison has main-evented more PPVs in the last year than Randy Orton. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:980204] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Also it's weird to think that Morrison has main-evented more PPVs in the last year than Randy Orton. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 04/03/12 1:12:00 PM #384:	From: Jakyl25 \| #380 PPV main eventers (i.e. "last match") in the last year (12 PPVs, not counting the Rumble PPV at all, and not counting Del Rio's cash-in as the last match): John Cena: 10 CM Punk: 4 The Miz: 4 Alberto Del Rio: 3 The Rock: 2 R-Truth: 2 John Morrison: 1 Triple H: 1 Kane: 1 So if Punk's not a main-eventer then no one outside of Cena is. <_< That's pretty much the case, though. Who on that list (besides The Rock, obviously) draws ratings? All I ever hear about any of them is how bad they are for ratings. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i53.tinypic.com/2hpufbd.png <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:980205] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: Jakyl25 \| #380PPV main eventers (i.e. "last match") in the last year (12 PPVs, not counting the Rumble PPV at all, and not counting Del Rio's cash-in as the last match):John Cena: 10CM Punk: 4The Miz: 4Alberto Del Rio: 3The Rock: 2R-Truth: 2John Morrison: 1Triple H: 1Kane: 1So if Punk's not a main-eventer then no one outside of Cena is. <_<That's pretty much the case, though.Who on that list (besides The Rock, obviously) draws ratings?All I ever hear about any of them is how bad they are for ratings. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i53.tinypic.com/2hpufbd.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
THEDavyJones 04/03/12 1:13:00 PM #385:	*neonreaper posted...* Punk might have some trouble there, his whole "agent of change" thing isn't really a big deal anymore. Now he's just another WWE Superstar who certainly has some ring psychology sensibilities but he's not a big deal. The mob is fickle and they're not going to watch Punk at 11 if they aren't watching him at 10. I really don't think it's a matter of telling people "this guy is champ and he's the main event" means they are necessarily going to buy in if the guy isn't compelling to them. And I think that's the problem with Punk right now: the "agent of change" thing isn't really relevant anymore. Right now, he's just another sympathetic babyface. Literally, this entire angle is about Jericho being mean to CM Punk and talking about his family, and people are supposed to sympathize with Punk. The same Punk that over the summer said he'd like to think the WWE would better off with Vince McMahon DEAD. >_> And now he's going to be stuck in a storyline where it's the same basic thing, with Johnny "punishing" Punk every week with title matches. Once again, this is not playing to Punk's strengths at all. They're essentially turning Punk into a tattoo'd John Cena. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide <cite>THEDavyJones posted [p:980206] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> neonreaper posted...Punk might have some trouble there, his whole "agent of change" thing isn't really a big deal anymore. Now he's just another WWE Superstar who certainly has some ring psychology sensibilities but he's not a big deal. The mob is fickle and they're not going to watch Punk at 11 if they aren't watching him at 10. I really don't think it's a matter of telling people "this guy is champ and he's the main event" means they are necessarily going to buy in if the guy isn't compelling to them.And I think that's the problem with Punk right now: the "agent of change" thing isn't really relevant anymore. Right now, he's just another sympathetic babyface. Literally, this entire angle is about Jericho being mean to CM Punk and talking about his family, and people are supposed to sympathize with Punk.The same Punk that over the summer said he'd like to think the WWE would better off with Vince McMahon DEAD. >_>And now he's going to be stuck in a storyline where it's the same basic thing, with Johnny "punishing" Punk every week with title matches. Once again, this is not playing to Punk's strengths at all. They're essentially turning Punk into a tattoo'd John Cena. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 04/03/12 1:14:00 PM #386:	The Smackdown Curse. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:980207] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> The Smackdown Curse. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngThe one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DSAutoResponder 04/03/12 1:16:00 PM #387:	*Rad Link 5 posted...* Who on that list (besides The Rock, obviously) draws ratings? that's a good question. <cite>DSAutoResponder posted [p:980208] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Rad Link 5 posted...Who on that list (besides The Rock, obviously) draws ratings?that's a good question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 04/03/12 1:18:00 PM #388:	What else are you gonna do? Keep putting John Cena in the main event slot until he can't wrestle anymore and then close the WWE? They'll just push Orton some more -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:980209] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> What else are you gonna do? Keep putting John Cena in the main event slot until he can't wrestle anymore and then close the WWE?They'll just push Orton some more -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 04/03/12 1:19:00 PM #389:	Seriously, just call it Monday Night Rock. Air clips of The Rock all night. End the show with a new clip of The Rock at his house/on a movie set talking about something topical and telling fans to tune in next week "IF YA SMELLLLLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELL! ... WHAT THE ROCK! IS! COOKING!" -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9451/20110530afabodo.jpg <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:980210] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Seriously, just call it Monday Night Rock.Air clips of The Rock all night.End the show with a new clip of The Rock at his house/on a movie set talking about something topical and telling fans to tune in next week "IF YA SMELLLLLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELL! ... WHAT THE ROCK! IS! COOKING!" -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9451/20110530afabodo.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
THEDavyJones 04/03/12 1:20:00 PM #390:	*Rad Link 5 posted...* Seriously, just call it Monday Night Rock. Air clips of The Rock all night. End the show with a new clip of The Rock at his house/on a movie set talking about something topical and telling fans to tune in next week "IF YA SMELLLLLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELL! ... WHAT THE ROCK! IS! COOKING!" You should work for the WWE network. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide <cite>THEDavyJones posted [p:980211] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Rad Link 5 posted...Seriously, just call it Monday Night Rock.Air clips of The Rock all night.End the show with a new clip of The Rock at his house/on a movie set talking about something topical and telling fans to tune in next week "IF YA SMELLLLLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELLL-ELL! ... WHAT THE ROCK! IS! COOKING!"You should work for the WWE network. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 04/03/12 1:22:00 PM #391:	From: Rad Link 5 \| #384 That's pretty much the case, though. Who on that list (besides The Rock, obviously) draws ratings? All I ever hear about any of them is how bad they are for ratings. Hey I booked almost my entire FWA game with Sid either with the title, in the main event or somewhere REALLY close to it the entire time for similar reasons. It didnt stop me from elevating other people ( so proud of Barry Windham and Dolph Ziggler for getting over in that journal you have no idea) -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:980212] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: Rad Link 5 \| #384That's pretty much the case, though.Who on that list (besides The Rock, obviously) draws ratings?All I ever hear about any of them is how bad they are for ratings.Hey I booked almost my entire FWA game with Sid either with the title, in the main event or somewhere REALLY close to it the entire time for similar reasons. It didnt stop me from elevating other people ( so proud of Barry Windham and Dolph Ziggler for getting over in that journal you have no idea) -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngThe one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 04/03/12 1:22:00 PM #392:	From: Jakyl25 \| #365 And LOL @ Jericho for slipping in his own whiskey bath. Yeah Jakyl, you missed Jericho's point. From his twitter: "By the way that wasn't a slip; I was imitating Punk the Drunk. I never make mistakes u wannabes..." Quit being such a wannabe, Jakyl. -- Xbox GT: PrivateBiscuit1 Down with Zhang. Let there be Biscuit! <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:980213] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: Jakyl25 \| #365And LOL @ Jericho for slipping in his own whiskey bath.Yeah Jakyl, you missed Jericho's point. From his twitter:"By the way that wasn't a slip; I was imitating Punk the Drunk. I never make mistakes u wannabes..."Quit being such a wannabe, Jakyl. -- Xbox GT: PrivateBiscuit1Down with Zhang. Let there be Biscuit! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 04/03/12 1:23:00 PM #393:	Also change Friday Night SmackDown. Same format. Tells fans to tune in next week, or he'll "LAY THE SMACKETH DOWN ON YOUR CANDY ASS!" -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i51.tinypic.com/2q9ggnn.png <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:980214] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Also change Friday Night SmackDown.Same format.Tells fans to tune in next week, or he'll "LAY THE SMACKETH DOWN ON YOUR CANDY ASS!" -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i51.tinypic.com/2q9ggnn.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neonreaper 04/03/12 1:27:00 PM #394:	*Rad Link 5 posted...* I think you have to keep plugging these guys in at 11 and in main events, even if people keep tuning out, so that they start to change their perception of them. Maybe that won't work, but you've got to try something. What else are you gonna do? Keep putting John Cena in the main event slot until he can't wrestle anymore and then close the WWE? I think they botched Punk horribly. They really had something special there, and I think they've decided to shoehorn him into whatever idea of a modern WWE Superstar they have. I think putting the current CM Punk and his current angle at the main event spot wouldn't really mean much. Being a main event WWE Superstar defending his title for a year at 11pm really isn't what makes Punk special. I don't think they close the WWE, they'll just do what they did before when the good guys stopped wrestling, put out who they have and get lower ratings. -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. <cite>neonreaper posted [p:980215] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Rad Link 5 posted...I think you have to keep plugging these guys in at 11 and in main events, even if people keep tuning out, so that they start to change their perception of them. Maybe that won't work, but you've got to try something. What else are you gonna do? Keep putting John Cena in the main event slot until he can't wrestle anymore and then close the WWE?I think they botched Punk horribly. They really had something special there, and I think they've decided to shoehorn him into whatever idea of a modern WWE Superstar they have. I think putting the current CM Punk and his current angle at the main event spot wouldn't really mean much. Being a main event WWE Superstar defending his title for a year at 11pm really isn't what makes Punk special.I don't think they close the WWE, they'll just do what they did before when the good guys stopped wrestling, put out who they have and get lower ratings. -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter?Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 04/03/12 1:27:00 PM #395:	From: PrivateBiscuit1 \| #392 Yeah Jakyl, you missed Jericho's point. From his twitter: "By the way that wasn't a slip; I was imitating Punk the Drunk. I never make mistakes u wannabes..." Quit being such a wannabe, Jakyl. Speaking of Wannabes, I bet Chris Jericho said the word "Yes" before Daniel Bryan ever did. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:980216] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: PrivateBiscuit1 \| #392Yeah Jakyl, you missed Jericho's point. From his twitter:"By the way that wasn't a slip; I was imitating Punk the Drunk. I never make mistakes u wannabes..."Quit being such a wannabe, Jakyl.Speaking of Wannabes, I bet Chris Jericho said the word "Yes" before Daniel Bryan ever did. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
THEDavyJones 04/03/12 1:29:00 PM #396:	And as for what the WWE will do when Cena's gone. Same thing they did in 2003-2004 when they lost The Rock and Stone Cold: take whoevers getting the best reaction, and move them up the ladder. In that case, it ended up being Batista and John Cena. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide <cite>THEDavyJones posted [p:980217] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> And as for what the WWE will do when Cena's gone.Same thing they did in 2003-2004 when they lost The Rock and Stone Cold: take whoevers getting the best reaction, and move them up the ladder. In that case, it ended up being Batista and John Cena. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 04/03/12 1:30:00 PM #397:	Also I should add that the one guy who's name is not John Cena or The Rock who I've heard draws ratings over the past year isn't even on that list. Mark "Ratings" Henry -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i52.tinypic.com/25p7p61.gif <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:980218] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> Also I should add that the one guy who's name is not John Cena or The Rock who I've heard draws ratings over the past year isn't even on that list.Mark "Ratings" Henry -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i52.tinypic.com/25p7p61.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 04/03/12 1:30:00 PM #398:	From: neonreaper \| #394 I don't think they close the WWE, they'll just do what they did before when the good guys stopped wrestling, put out who they have and get lower ratings. Which actually got them thisclose to going out of business. If Austin vs. McMahon hadn't taken off, they never would have made it to Wrestlemania XV. Although granted business is much more stable and lucrative now even in a down period, and they have a substantial war chest, although they are dipping into it to launch WWE Network. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:980219] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: neonreaper \| #394I don't think they close the WWE, they'll just do what they did before when the good guys stopped wrestling, put out who they have and get lower ratings.Which actually got them thisclose to going out of business. If Austin vs. McMahon hadn't taken off, they never would have made it to Wrestlemania XV.Although granted business is much more stable and lucrative now even in a down period, and they have a substantial war chest, although they are dipping into it to launch WWE Network. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 04/03/12 1:34:00 PM #399:	I thought Mania XI was the one that SAVED WWE. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:980220] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> I thought Mania XI was the one that SAVED WWE. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.pngThe one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
THEDavyJones 04/03/12 1:35:00 PM #400:	*edwardsdv posted...* I thought Mania XI was the one that SAVED WWE. No, Jericho saved WWF/E when he debuted. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide <cite>THEDavyJones posted [p:980221] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> edwardsdv posted...I thought Mania XI was the one that SAVED WWE.No, Jericho saved WWF/E when he debuted. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 04/03/12 1:36:00 PM #401:	From: edwardsdv \| #399 I thought Mania XI was the one that SAVED WWE. The Lawrence Taylor one? Never heard that before! Remember, the Montreal Screwjob happened because they could literally not afford Bret's contract anymore. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:980222] in All-Purpos... [t:62431505]...</cite> <quote> From: edwardsdv \| #399I thought Mania XI was the one that SAVED WWE.The Lawrence Taylor one? Never heard that before!Remember, the Montreal Screwjob happened because they could literally not afford Bret's contract anymore. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/WM28_Photo_255.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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