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transience 02/09/12 3:13:00 PM #1: |
LAS VEGAS Ninja Gaiden creator Tomonobu Itagaki almost quit making videogames when his company tricked him into releasing an unfinished title, he said on Thursday.
Itagaki, who has since left Tecmo and started an independent game studio called Valhalla, said in his speech at the annual DICE Summit that he only had two and a half months to port the fighting game Dead or Alive 2 to the PlayStation 2 in time for the home platforms launch in March 2000. All of the staff, led by me, fought for a victory with all their energy, Itagaki said through an onstage translator. But unfortunately, the result wasnt what we expected. As the deadline of the PlayStation 2's launch grew closer, the companys sales general manager approached Itagaki at his desk. Can I borrow a copy of this so I can play it a little? Itagaki remembers the manager saying. I said, sure, yeah, go on, and I handed him the disc which was still under development, Itagaki said. But this disc was never played by them. Instead, Itagaki said to the crowd of game developers and executives, it was taken into a factory for production on that day without me knowing it. Tecmo, Itagaki said, made a huge profit. But the release of what he called an unfinished game sent Itagaki into a spiral of depression. I thought I would quit making games, he said. He started staying home, drinking from morning until night. Hed cry as he watched the movie Armageddon over and over again with his then three-year-old daughter, listening to Aerosmiths theme song I Dont Want to Miss a Thing. Eventually, he went back to work with a renewed sense of purpose, creating the follow-up game Dead or Alive 2: Hardcore in the state that he and his team wanted it to be. No matter what anyone says, Aerosmith and Armageddon were the ones who saved my life, my company, my friends and my family, Itagaki concluded. http://blog-admin.wired.com/gamelife/2012/02/itagaki-dice-2012/ -- xyzzy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 02/09/12 3:15:00 PM #2: |
From: transience | #001 There are no words for this. -- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kotetsu534 02/09/12 3:16:00 PM #3: |
No matter what anyone says, Aerosmith and Armageddon were the ones who saved my life, my company, my friends and my family,
Wow. I have nothing to say. -- Who knew the Rivalry Rumble would be so predictable? SuperNiceDog, that's who. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WolfActual 02/09/12 3:17:00 PM #4: |
what
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Lockes Ragnarok 02/09/12 3:17:00 PM #5: |
I thought I would quit making games, he said. He started staying home, drinking from morning until night. Hed cry as he watched the movie Armageddon over and over again with his then three-year-old daughter, listening to Aerosmiths theme song I Dont Want to Miss a Thing.
Eventually, he went back to work with a renewed sense of purpose, creating the follow-up game Dead or Alive 2: Hardcore in the state that he and his team wanted it to be. No matter what anyone says, Aerosmith and Armageddon were the ones who saved my life, my company, my friends and my family, Itagaki concluded. XFD -- Let's get drunk and make bad decisions "Life is a bunch of stuff" -- Whiskey Nick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZFS 02/09/12 3:24:00 PM #6: |
Itagaki is amazing.
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Dauntless Hunter 02/09/12 3:25:00 PM #7: |
From: transience | #001 This is the most amazing ever. -- SuperNiceDog may be the Guru Champion... But SuperBowlGiants are the NFL Champions! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tereziWright 02/09/12 3:26:00 PM #8: |
John Egbert grows up to be Itagaki
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RevolverSaro 02/09/12 3:28:00 PM #9: |
o WTF
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KanzarisKelshen 02/09/12 3:30:00 PM #10: |
This is the most amazing thing. I'm not sure if it's amazingly good or bad, but it definitely IS amazing.
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Biolizard28 02/09/12 3:31:00 PM #11: |
I don't know which is more impressive. The Aerosmith and Armageddon comment or the fact that he was so upset about releasing an unfinished game that not even piles of money could make him happy.
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KanzarisKelshen 02/09/12 3:36:00 PM #12: |
From: Biolizard28 | #011 That's because HE didn't make a pile of money, most likely. Unless he was paid royalties he earned his usual salary. And yes, releasing an unfinished POS is a big deal for someone who truly loves his craft. Grab a musician and release a demo of his that he thinks is half-finished and he'll despair. When you love your work you want to do it well. If someone exposes something terrible for the world to see, you feel really bad because you feel like it's your fault. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SemiFinal vs Belarus 02/09/12 3:37:00 PM #13: |
this is amazing
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azuarc 02/09/12 3:40:00 PM #14: |
*tries to reason out the connection between Aerosmith and Armageddon*
Armageddon, the movie? Like with the inbound meteor? Aerosmith had a song in that...is THAT what he's talking about? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Haguile 02/09/12 3:40:00 PM #15: |
From: transience | Posted: 2/9/2012 6:13:01 PM | #001 I think he has earned some sort of honorary American citizenship with this. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 02/09/12 3:40:00 PM #16: |
From: azuarc | #014 uhhhhhhh -- http://i.minus.com/iH9vIGOBoyTQ2.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WolfActual 02/09/12 3:42:00 PM #17: |
azuarc posted...
*tries to reason out the connection between Aerosmith and Armageddon* Armageddon, the movie? Like with the inbound meteor? Aerosmith had a song in that...is THAT what he's talking about? You just managed to top the OP on the WTF meter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 02/09/12 3:43:00 PM #18: |
....Best news story.
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greengravy294 02/09/12 3:44:00 PM #19: |
Amazing.
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XIII_rocks 02/09/12 3:44:00 PM #20: |
Though sad that that kind of thing actually goes on. I wonder if that's the first time something like that has happened
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PartOfYourWorld 02/09/12 3:47:00 PM #21: |
I have officially jettisoned myself off the Tebow bandwagon and jumped aboard Team Itagaki. His passion (as he details it, anyway) is pretty admirable, but the Armageddon stuff puts this story in a whole 'nother league. Still, wtf @ deceiving a game's director and releasing an unfinished product under his nose.
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ZFS 02/09/12 3:49:00 PM #22: |
-- "When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 02/09/12 3:49:00 PM #23: |
From: XIII_rocks | #020 What are the odds that something like this happened with games like Superman 64 or Big Rigs? -- http://www.miscupload.com/upload/452457071929141623517416.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raka_Putra 02/09/12 3:49:00 PM #24: |
What the hell..
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th3l3fty 02/09/12 3:52:00 PM #25: |
Itagaki is something else
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SlymDayspring 02/09/12 3:52:00 PM #26: |
this is fantastic
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Haguile 02/09/12 3:54:00 PM #27: |
From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 2/9/2012 6:49:09 PM | #023 Wasn't there a theory that Big Rigs was a project by the Russian mafia to rip people off? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PartOfYourWorld 02/09/12 3:56:00 PM #28: |
From: LeonhartFour | #023 I'd like to think that the publisher would have at least approached the director and said "we need to go into production by this date. I don't care if it's finished or not, we can't miss this deadline." If nothing else, that would at least give the dev team some warning as to what to scrap and how to work around it (I doubt any of this happened with a no-name title like Big Rigs, but just sayin). Going behind the director's back just seems like an incredibly unprofessional thing to do, especially with an actual big-name title. -- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dauntless Hunter 02/09/12 3:57:00 PM #29: |
This story completely sold me on his next game. Anyone with this much passion for what they do deserves to be supported.
But unfortunately it's not on Amazon for preorder yet. -- SuperNiceDog may be the Guru Champion... But SuperBowlGiants are the NFL Champions! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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transience 02/09/12 3:57:00 PM #30: |
it's a port that they wanted to get out the door for launch.
(why are we discussing this and not aweing at Ikagaki en masse) -- xyzzy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackMageJawa 02/09/12 3:59:00 PM #31: |
This sort of thing was apparently endemic on the Atari 2600. If a publisher asked to see your progress, it meant they wanted to ship right now.
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KamikazePotato 02/09/12 5:07:00 PM #32: |
amazing
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TVontheRadio 02/09/12 5:44:00 PM #33: |
this is sad and hilarious at the same time
simply amazing -- SuperNiceDog all you need ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheKnightOfNee 02/09/12 5:54:00 PM #34: |
This is
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Shoenin_Kakashi 02/09/12 5:56:00 PM #35: |
people do find inspiration from the most oddest of places
Good for him, I guess -- Oh SuperNiceDog's doing it again dude. SuperNiceDog, you ain't no pimp dude ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 02/09/12 5:56:00 PM #36: |
Cause even when I dream of you
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Blairville 02/09/12 10:06:00 PM #37: |
My new hero!
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foolm0ron 02/09/12 10:16:00 PM #38: |
That's an amazing story
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LeonhartFour 02/13/12 12:11:00 AM #39: |
Don't want this to die yet.
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Weakupedia 02/13/12 12:22:00 AM #40: |
i
what -- XS2 is the only good Xenosaga game - Lady Ashe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Liquid Wind 02/13/12 12:26:00 AM #41: |
o_o
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Anagram 02/13/12 12:33:00 AM #42: |
Man.
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CoolCly 02/13/12 12:36:00 AM #43: |
Lol @ the manager
"can i borrow this game to play it a little?" "k thx" *goes straight to the factory for mass production" That doesn't even make sense. What if there were crippling bugs in that version to make it unplayable? -- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weakupedia 02/13/12 12:37:00 AM #44: |
i don't even remember the ps2 having any DOA2 other than DOA2: Hardcore!
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XIII_rocks 02/13/12 1:14:00 AM #46: |
From: CoolCly | #043 Well I presume he played it or he knew beforehand it didn't. Or both. I'm sure that story left out a couple of details. -- Luster Reloaded: Damn, that's some crazy s***. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Liquid Wind 02/13/12 1:15:00 AM #47: |
I will seriously never understand Japanese business culture. Those people all come off as gigantic crybaby, yet hyper-competitive p***ies to me.
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