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SmartMuffin 02/08/12 7:56:00 PM #1: |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/at-prayer-breakfast-obama-says-christian-faith-guides-his-policies/2012/02/02/gIQAzNyakQ_story.html
Interesting. Im sure all the militant atheists who have a brain aneurism every time a Republican mentions God are enraged about this. I mean, the guy is basically stating that he makes policy for the nation based on his religion. Thats the same thing as a theocracy, right? Right? http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/2012/02/08/at-prayer-breakfast-obama-says-christian-faith-guides-his-policies-the-washington-post/ -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 02/08/12 7:59:00 PM #2: |
What's everybody's favourite breakfast cereal?
I've always been a fan of Cheerios. Kind of boring but good. I put sugar on top of them though, just a little. Goes very nicely. -- 2011 WWYD Champion I do things for money and games. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 02/08/12 7:59:00 PM #3: |
in his defense, he's probably lying because he's really a secret Muslim.
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SmartMuffin 02/08/12 7:59:00 PM #4: |
From: MoogleKupo141 | #003 Is that really a more ridiculous claim then all the leftists who think he's a secret atheist? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JeffreyRaze 02/08/12 8:00:00 PM #5: |
Dammit. Though as far as things go, it's more like he's using religion as a weapon against his critics than anything. Still though, not the best of signs.
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SupremeZero 02/08/12 8:00:00 PM #6: |
From: XIII_rocks | #002 Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. -- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover, God himself, be your hope. You have to be your own hope. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raka_Putra 02/08/12 8:03:00 PM #7: |
Honey Stars and Koko Krunch.
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XIII_rocks 02/08/12 8:04:00 PM #8: |
From: SupremeZero | #006 Something I wish we had over here...=/ At least I don't think we do. I've never seen it. -- http://i.imgur.com/j5f3K.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 02/08/12 8:04:00 PM #9: |
From: Raka_Putra | #007 ... the hell are those? -- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover, God himself, be your hope. You have to be your own hope. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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paperwarior 02/08/12 8:04:00 PM #10: |
Is that really a more ridiculous claim then all the leftists who think he's a secret atheist?
Well, there's more of a precedent for atheists who don't admit it due to the backlash it causes from some people than there is for evil Muslims pretending to be Christian to destroy the country from within through its highest office. But really, lacking any evidence to the contrary we should just take him at his word on that. -- Now playing: Sakura Samurai, Final Fantasy V, Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 02/08/12 8:05:00 PM #11: |
Well, there's more of a precedent for atheists who don't admit it due to the backlash
And what precedent would that be exactly? Unless they infer from his positions that he couldn't possibly be a true Christian. Not an argument I am prepared to refute at this time! -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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paperwarior 02/08/12 8:10:00 PM #12: |
Well, I'm saying more ordinary people than public figures. Someone might not believe in God but would rather not say it at a dinner with highly-religious relatives. As President of the US, there would be a much more serious backlash. But I am saying that there is no evidence of Obama being that.
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Team Rocket Elite 02/08/12 8:10:00 PM #13: |
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/edgell/home/Strib%20Atheist%20Faith%20and%20Values.html
http://www.miller-mccune.com/culture/distrust-powers-anti-atheist-prejudice-37784/ I don't know if something like this would be reflected in how someone votes but an atheist may want to hide the fact they are an atheist to avoid the possibility. -- SuperNiceDog was not so nice to my bracket. Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Rivalry Rumble Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 02/08/12 8:11:00 PM #14: |
Obama has always been about "hope" and "faith". Did atheists really endorse him?
I mean, you really need to have faith to believe in a guy that makes so many promises and doesn't keep any of them. Faith and stupidity, I guess. -- _foolmo_ 'It's easy to get yourself in trouble if you start quoting people who don't like you in your signature' - Mods ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomNook7 02/08/12 8:16:00 PM #15: |
democracy more like theocracy m i rite
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paperwarior 02/08/12 8:18:00 PM #16: |
Hope and faith are not strictly theistic concepts. Aside from the other meaning of faith, but that would be equivocation.
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ExThaNemesis 02/08/12 8:21:00 PM #17: |
SMuffin you realize that we don't have an alternative.
We have Obama who loosely admits that some policy is based on his religion (and it was solely a political move anyway). Or we have any one of the republican candidates whose policies are guided PREDOMINANTLY by their religion. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomNook7 02/08/12 8:28:00 PM #18: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
SMuffin you realize that we don't have an alternative. Yes you do. -- Genesis does what Nintendon't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7nsBoqJ6s8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 02/08/12 8:30:00 PM #19: |
I wish they would add one:
"Doesn't believe in evolution. In 2012." Ron Paul so bad. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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3DSRage 02/08/12 8:31:00 PM #20: |
i get a rndm amt usually between 47 and 721
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SmartMuffin 02/08/12 8:33:00 PM #21: |
From: ExThaNemesis | #019 Explain to me EXACTLY what decision as President you think Dr. Paul's lack of believing in evolution will influence and why? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheCodeisBosco 02/08/12 8:34:00 PM #22: |
I love Kellogg's Raisin Bran. Crispix is really good too.
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ExThaNemesis 02/08/12 8:36:00 PM #24: |
From: SmartMuffin | #021 I don't exactly know, but obviously his RELIGION has influenced him to make that stupid decision so it's more than reasonable for me to believe that it will influence him to make other ones. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SBell0105 02/08/12 8:36:00 PM #25: |
From: SmartMuffin | #021 Umm, if you refuse to believe in a fundamental truth regarding life on this planet how the hell do you expect to be able to govern 300 million of us? -- (\__/) (='.'=] < http://img.imgcake.com/sbellcardjpgub.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 02/08/12 8:37:00 PM #26: |
From: SBell0105 | #025 Because "the origin of life" has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with government? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SBell0105 02/08/12 8:37:00 PM #27: |
Nuclear Defenses, who needs those? God will stop any bombs hurdling towards our country.
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SpeedYoshi 02/08/12 8:38:00 PM #28: |
From: XIII_rocks | #002 I like frosted cheerios although my favorite changes every few months -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs SuperNiceDog barked up the right tree. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SBell0105 02/08/12 8:38:00 PM #29: |
From: SmartMuffin | #026 Stupid people shouldn't be allowed in government, I thought you were against stupidity in government. -- (\__/) (='.'=] < http://img.imgcake.com/sbellcardjpgub.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 02/08/12 8:38:00 PM #30: |
From: SBell0105 | #027 okay now this is just a bit silly -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SBell0105 02/08/12 8:38:00 PM #31: |
From: ExThaNemesis | #030 yes, it is. -- (\__/) (='.'=] < http://img.imgcake.com/sbellcardjpgub.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 02/08/12 8:39:00 PM #32: |
From: SBell0105 | #029 There's nothing "stupid" about believing that life didn't spontaneously begin for no reason whatsoever. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CherryCokes 02/08/12 8:41:00 PM #33: |
From: XIII_rocks | #002 a brit who likes cheerios is hilarious -- http://alison-brie.net/galleries/3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 02/08/12 8:42:00 PM #34: |
From: SmartMuffin | #032 roflmfao this is what smartmuffin actually believes -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 02/08/12 8:43:00 PM #35: |
From: SmartMuffin | #032 That's not even relevant. Evolution doesn't say much about how life began, just how it progresses! -- You have no time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball. http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VincentLauw 02/08/12 8:43:00 PM #36: |
itt Smuffin arguing against evolution
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MoogleKupo141 02/08/12 8:43:00 PM #37: |
SmartMuffin posted...
From: SBell0105 | #029 Stupid people shouldn't be allowed in government, I thought you were against stupidity in government. There's nothing "stupid" about believing that life didn't spontaneously begin for no reason whatsoever. well when you put it that way it sure sounds zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz -- For your SuperNiceDog. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 02/08/12 8:44:00 PM #38: |
From: Team Rocket Elite | #013 I'm familiar with all of these studies, but it does seem a bit counterintuitive. It's like the whole "republicans only hate obama because he's black" logic. People who care enough about religion to use it as a litmus test for political office are almost certainly going to be voting republican anyway. That's just the way it works. During the actual campaign, Obama would say he was a Christian, but generally speaking, avoided the issue as much as possible (because once you dig deeper on it, it leads to Jeremiah Wright, which absolutely nobody was allowed to mention without being called a racist). Do you really think the results would have been different if he said he was agnostic? I agree that coming out as an "atheist" probably wouldn't work, solely because atheist is a really loaded term that most people associate with a non-literal definition. It'd be like coming out as a "zionist" even though the literal definition of zionist is simply "someone who believes israel is a legitimate nation." -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 02/08/12 8:45:00 PM #39: |
From: VincentLauw | #036 no im not I mean, I'll admit to not knowing the specific nuances of Paul's beliefs on the subject. Because i don't care. I care about what his monetary policy is. What his fiscal policy is. What his foreign policy is. I care whether or not he will blow up brown children with predator drones. But no, you guys keep voting based on whose analysis of monkey skeletons most conforms to your own. That'll work out well. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SlymDayspring 02/08/12 8:46:00 PM #40: |
I know you don't pay attention to liberal atheists but pretty much all of them are pissed off about obama's positions that are influenced by his religion (gay marriage for example)
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SmartMuffin 02/08/12 8:47:00 PM #41: |
Well, I must have missed the topic on this board expressing outrage at these recent comments of his. My bad?
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edwardsdv 02/08/12 8:49:00 PM #42: |
From: XIII_rocks | #002 I'm a fan of Life cereal myself -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomNook7 02/08/12 8:49:00 PM #43: |
SlymDayspring posted...
I know you don't pay attention to liberal atheists but pretty much all of them are pissed off about obama's positions that are influenced by his religion (gay marriage for example) Then why don't they stop supporting him? I'm an atheist and I always want the politician with the least religious bias: Ron Paul. -- Genesis does what Nintendon't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7nsBoqJ6s8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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paperwarior 02/08/12 8:52:00 PM #44: |
Supporting him? Have you seen his approval ratings?
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SBell0105 02/08/12 8:53:00 PM #45: |
From: edwardsdv | #042 Evolved Life Cereal or Created Life Cereal? -- (\__/) (='.'=] < http://img.imgcake.com/sbellcardjpgub.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 02/08/12 8:54:00 PM #46: |
I guess you could say he's...
*takes off sunglasses* pro-life YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHH!!! -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SlymDayspring 02/08/12 8:55:00 PM #47: |
Then why don't they stop supporting him?
I'm an atheist and I always want the politician with the least religious bias: Ron Paul. uh, who you support politically has to do with how you feel on more than just a handful of issues. i would imagine they simply prefer obama to the republican candidates even if they do not completely agree with him. i dunno what you mean about religious bias and ron paul, i can't think of any situation where ron paul and obama's policies differ where ron paul ends up being the less religious one. even if there was some area where he seemed better in that regard, who people support has to do with more than just those kinds of issues. -- I'm "kind of a big deal". http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 02/08/12 8:57:00 PM #48: |
Cons against every other American politician:
-they lie -they are greedy -they don't care about the common people -they willingly destroy foreign countries -they willingly destroy our country -they are puppets of their party, who are then puppets of the rich donors Cons against Ron Paul: -doesn't believe in Evolution -knows a guy who wrote something racist 30 years ago -that's it Gee I sure wonder why people like that Ron Paul idiot -- _foolmo_ 'Ulti is like when your parents post something on your facebook status' - Sir Cobain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 02/08/12 8:57:00 PM #49: |
i can't think of any situation where ron paul and obama's policies differ where ron paul ends up being the less religious one
Ron Paul doesn't believe that it's okay to confiscate wealth and give it to the poor. Obama does. Apparently his justification for this is "Jesus says we should do it" -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 02/08/12 8:57:00 PM #50: |
Also, IF you believe there is any religious component whatsoever to our current wars, Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who will end them.
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