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shadosneko
01/24/12 8:53:00 AM
#101:


If Mondo flipped the rooms, then how would Togami know about the murder, and how would he know he could get into the girl's room?

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Haguile
01/24/12 9:45:00 AM
#102:


Togami clearly had access to the cards from the letterbox, he knew he could get in there. In any case, we should be getting an update today so there's that.

Today should be the time when Togami is accused of the crime. Wonder how long it will take until the Mondo reveal happens.
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shadosneko
01/24/12 7:05:00 PM
#103:





yesssss

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RyokIes
01/24/12 10:34:00 PM
#104:


finally got caught up on everything. holy hell some of the people in that thread are hilarious. THERE IS NO WAY CHI IS A MAN NO WAY NO HOW

MONDO CAN'T BE THE KILLER SINCE CHI NEVER LEFT A NOTE AND TOOK PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE THAT SHE WAS GOING TO TRAIN WITH HIM ANDGFSJABJBAFSKJ IT'S DEFINITELY TOGAMI

haha oh man this is great stuff

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Haguile
01/24/12 10:38:00 PM
#105:


Yeah, it's hilarious. I think there are only 3 people in that thread including KP who are right about the killer. Everyone else is like TOGAMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

HE'S GUILTY BECAUSE HE'S A JERK. THAT'S HOW MYSTERIES WORK RIGHT?
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RyokIes
01/24/12 10:42:00 PM
#106:


mondo is too nice! he wears his emotions on his sleeve and wouldn't hurt the weak! this is an indisputable fact based on barely any interactions with him! what, he punched out the protagonist on the first day for pretty much no reason? I'M SURE HE DESERVED IT

TOGAMI HAD ACCESS TO THE SECRET ROOM! HE HAD TO HAVE DONE IT SINCE NOBODY COULD ENTER IT, DESPITE THE DOOR BEING UNLOCKED

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Haguile
01/24/12 10:44:00 PM
#107:


And my favorite:

"Mondo can't be the killer, Togami's the only one who knows about Syo's motive!"

Bonus point when repeated right after somebody explains how Togami doctored the scene despite Mondo being the killer.
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RyokIes
01/24/12 10:47:00 PM
#108:


i can't wait to see the rage when he ends up not being the killer

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Haguile
01/24/12 10:51:00 PM
#109:


I can't either. It's going to be hilarious. First, next update should be the "It's totally Togami! *wink wink*" update. Then we should get the "...Okay fine it's Mondo." update. No idea how long it's gonna take to clear Togami, but I think it's gonna be hilarious once they realize it.
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RyokIes
01/24/12 10:55:00 PM
#110:


and we shall laugh and laugh and laugh

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KamikazePotato
01/24/12 10:56:00 PM
#111:


Haguile was trying to explain to me over AIM that getting mad over smug people who have the wrong answer is just a phase that all mystery fans have to go through when they're starting out.

I don't think the phase has passed yet.

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KamikazePotato
01/24/12 11:01:00 PM
#112:


Also the best part about the predicting is that whenever someone poses an alternative theory to Togami, it's never Mondo

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Haguile
01/24/12 11:01:00 PM
#113:


I honestly think every mystery fan has met a person who acts all smugly and goes "The killer is obviously the red herring you don't know anything! But I...I am the master of mystery!" then goes "Well you got lucky you couldn't have known beforehand."
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Pikachu 025
01/25/12 5:43:00 AM
#114:


How can you be so sure that your theory is correct and the other ones are wrong? I'm not saying yours is incorrect, mind, but I don't understand the mindset that completely dismisses every other theory.

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Haguile
01/25/12 7:18:00 AM
#115:


The short answer is "because my theory makes sense and the other doesn't." I've kinda spent waaaay too long over at SA arguing that point already, so if you don't mind I'm not going to repeat myself because it'd just make me sound like a douche and it would take a really, really long time.

In any case, we should be getting the answer relatively soon considering how fast updates usually are.
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KamikazePotato
01/25/12 10:34:00 AM
#116:


I wasn't dismissive of the Togami theory initially, but my time spent arguing on SA has basically convinced me that there's a very very low possibility of it actually happen. Their arguments for him were anti-persuasive.

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shadosneko
01/25/12 11:04:00 AM
#117:


She was probably trying to plug something into the socket in the girl's locker room, but then she realized there weren't any sockets, so she got the extension cord to plug into the boy's room, getting in there by using an extra card.

While in there, she accidentally got tangled up on the training equipment, and the dumb bell, being on the shelf, fell on to her head.

Then Monobear comes and transports her to the other room, because she's not supposed to be in the boys' locker room, and her being there will make the integrity of Monobear look bad.

She killed herself.

Everyone dies.

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Dark_Spiral
01/25/12 11:14:00 AM
#118:


Togami is such a goddamn boss.
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KamikazePotato
01/25/12 11:21:00 AM
#119:


Togami is the best

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Haguile
01/25/12 11:23:00 AM
#120:


Togami is such a great dick.
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RyokIes
01/25/12 11:48:00 AM
#121:


hahahahahaha oh togami

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Haguile
01/25/12 12:05:00 PM
#122:


Now watch as SA slowly starts to think "Well maybe Mondo is the culprit." Slowly. Very slowly.
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Dark_Spiral
01/25/12 12:07:00 PM
#123:


No way, Togami isn't interested in finding the culprit, he IS the culprit according to them. This is all one big plan to shatter Naegi's case and he has to rebuild it against him.(lol)
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KamikazePotato
01/25/12 12:33:00 PM
#124:


*update gets people shaken in Togami*
*everyone starts to think it's Hagakure*

Man I swear

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MrSmartGuy
01/25/12 12:49:00 PM
#125:


Oh god, there were a lot of posts. There must've been an update.

(can't read posts yet can't read posts yet can't read posts yet)

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RyokIes
01/25/12 12:50:00 PM
#126:


From: KamikazePotato | #124
*update gets people shaken in Togami*
*everyone starts to think it's Hagakure*

Man I swear


dying

i am dying.

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KamikazePotato
01/25/12 12:51:00 PM
#127:


On the one hand, there's a mountain of evidence pointing toward Togami.

On the other hand, the Super High-school Level Smug guy is being smug when this evidence is being presented.

GUYS IT MUST NOT BE HIM WHO COULD POSSIBLY BE THAT SMUG IF THEY WERE GUILTY

You are all terrible detectives!


Haguile are you going to TAKE THIS HUH?

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/25/12 12:53:00 PM
#128:


Ignoring the broken card thing, Hagakure is far more reasonable than Mondo (broken card argument is important, though). Suspecting a gang leader as the perpetrator of a violent crime is kind of like watching Scooby Doo and suspecting Red Herring. Maybe this is the one time that he actually was the culprit, but otherwise it's kind of hard to be so oblivious to the unlikelihood of it.

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shadosneko
01/25/12 12:53:00 PM
#129:


It's Junko.

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KamikazePotato
01/25/12 12:54:00 PM
#130:


I prefer to work off of the evidence and not off of 'this guy is too obvious', personally.

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Haguile
01/25/12 12:54:00 PM
#131:


From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 1/25/2012 3:51:52 PM | #127
On the one hand, there's a mountain of evidence pointing toward Togami.

On the other hand, the Super High-school Level Smug guy is being smug when this evidence is being presented.

GUYS IT MUST NOT BE HIM WHO COULD POSSIBLY BE THAT SMUG IF THEY WERE GUILTY

You are all terrible detectives!


Haguile are you going to TAKE THIS HUH?


I am perfectly confident my logic is perfect and that Mondo is the culprit, so there's no need for me to get annoyed at a smug idiot.

From: Sceptilesolarbeam | Posted: 1/25/2012 3:53:05 PM | #128
Ignoring the broken card thing, Hagakure is far more reasonable than Mondo (broken card argument is important, though). Suspecting a gang leader as the perpetrator of a violent crime is kind of like watching Scooby Doo and suspecting Red Herring. Maybe this is the one time that he actually was the culprit, but otherwise it's kind of hard to be so oblivious to the unlikelihood of it.


No, suspecting Togami is thinking the culprit is Red Herring. Mondo is the actual culprit.
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RyokIes
01/25/12 12:54:00 PM
#132:


all the ad hominem is wonderful

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/25/12 12:55:00 PM
#133:


No, suspecting Togami is thinking the culprit is Red Herring. Mondo is the actual culprit.

Well, yes, suspecting Togami is just as bad, I'll give you that. But come on, the most violent guy in the cast as a culprit? That's so unlikely.

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Haguile
01/25/12 12:59:00 PM
#134:


From: Sceptilesolarbeam | Posted: 1/25/2012 3:55:47 PM | #133
No, suspecting Togami is thinking the culprit is Red Herring. Mondo is the actual culprit.

Well, yes, suspecting Togami is just as bad, I'll give you that. But come on, the most violent guy in the cast as a culprit? That's so unlikely.


Actually no that's pretty damn likely if you use real world logic. The most violent guy did the crime of passion. And I get where you are coming from about "he's so likely he can't be the culprit" but in murder mysteries authors are aware of that kind of thing and they play it off you. It's a pretty common thing and I can cite a few books to show you that it is a pretty damn common thing in murder mysteries. This kind of logic is only going to lead you to the wrong culprit.

The criminal is Mondo, I'd bet anything on it.
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MrSmartGuy
01/25/12 1:03:00 PM
#135:


Haguile = B8's Togami.

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shadosneko
01/25/12 1:03:00 PM
#136:


I find it odd that not one shred of motive has been shown other than Togami wanting Syo framed.

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Dark_Spiral
01/25/12 1:03:00 PM
#137:


This kind of logic is only going to lead you to the wrong culprit.

This and assuming a culprit has to play fair are two of the worst mistakes you can make in a mystery hands down, so no argument here.
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Haguile
01/25/12 1:04:00 PM
#138:


From: MrSmartGuy | Posted: 1/25/2012 4:03:21 PM | #135
Haguile = B8's Togami.


Difference being that I'm actually right.
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PrivateBiscuit1
01/25/12 1:05:00 PM
#139:


Am I the only one not doing ridiculously huge speculation since this game seems to like throwing swerves in your way DURING the trials to purposefully keep you thinking at each step of it?

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Dark_Spiral
01/25/12 1:06:00 PM
#140:


Togami's motive -

1. Absolute control of Syo. She's exposed, which means she can't kill without going herself.

2. She's made a target and will likely be killed before he is.

3. A means to an end to draw out the real culprit.
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MrSmartGuy
01/25/12 1:06:00 PM
#141:


From: shadosneko | #136
I find it odd that not one shred of motive has been shown other than Togami wanting Syo framed.


Most of these guys are all, like, 15 years old, and excel at something more than anyone else their age. Do you really think due process is very high up on their list of things to consider in these kinds of situations?

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shadosneko
01/25/12 1:07:00 PM
#142:


I'm not really speculating either, but I just feel like discussing something. >_>

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MrSmartGuy
01/25/12 1:07:00 PM
#143:


No, Biscuit, if I had to guess someone, it'd probably be Mondo, because the other folks in here make a pretty good case, but I would honestly have no clue at this point if I didn't read any other posts.

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shadosneko
01/25/12 1:08:00 PM
#144:


From: MrSmartGuy | #141
Most of these guys are all, like, 15 years old, and excel at something more than anyone else their age. Do you really think due process is very high up on their list of things to consider in these kinds of situations?


...what?

What does due process have to do with a motive?

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KamikazePotato
01/25/12 1:08:00 PM
#145:


I will do Haguile one better. Anyone saying that Mondo is not the culprit is wrong, dead wrong, and the game will lay out each individual bit of evidence in a way that fits together perfectly (a.k.a. the theories we already put forward earlier) that will prove that no one else COULD have been the culprit.

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Dark_Spiral
01/25/12 1:08:00 PM
#146:


Biscuit, not really. Everything that's happened up until this point has been expected based on the evidence and events that have taken place so far.(At least by me, Haguile, KP, and Ryoko it looks like.)
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PrivateBiscuit1
01/25/12 1:10:00 PM
#147:


Yeah, I mean, I think it's probably Togami or the dude with the terrible pointed hair, but to keep arguing about it so heatedly like some people are doing is pretty ridiculous since the game is just going to throw something in there to screw with pretty much all speculation anyway during the trial.

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Haguile
01/25/12 1:10:00 PM
#148:


From: Dark_Spiral | Posted: 1/25/2012 4:08:54 PM | #146
Biscuit, not really. Everything that's happened up until this point has been expected based on the evidence and events that have taken place so far.(At least by me, Haguile, KP, and Ryoko it looks like.)


Pretty much. Everything that happened so far, we saw it coming. Ryoko even called Syo being the book girl on page 1 of this very topic.
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KamikazePotato
01/25/12 1:12:00 PM
#149:


The trial has been amazingly predictable so far. Everything has gone exactly the way we expected it. The only 'unexpected' thing that happened was Togami being more of a boss than we could have imagined.

That doesn't mean it's bad. I've loved the trial so far. It's still gone all according to plan.

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shadosneko
01/25/12 1:13:00 PM
#150:


Maybe Togami killed Fujisaki, then Syo made it look like Togami made it look like Syo did it so Togami could point at the frame job and say look it's not me it was Syo to which Syo could say it was obviously Togami and Togami who is so charismatically smug can say nuh uhh, I definitely did not do this frame job and they all vote Syo and everyone but Togami dies. THE ULTIMATE XANATOS GAMBIT!!!

I like this one.

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