Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 158: A Couple of Indy Schmucks

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I'm just annoyed it's a six-week build, dammit
WHY

I'm busy that weekend, too, I might not even make it back!

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It's always a big build like that (Or at least it has been since they ditched New Year's Revolution).

They do Armageddon/TLC, then the last couple weeks of the year are kinda throwaway, and then the Raw closest to New Year's REALLY begins the Rumble build.

I mean, look at Raw this week. Pretty much zero build for anything unless you count Cena/Kane. It was really just a TLC epilogue.

Plus they're smart enough to position the Rumble on that one January weekend where there's no NFL Playoff game. Maximum viewers!

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From: JaKyL25 | Posted: 12/22/2011 10:26:16 PM | #248
Speaking of The Dirt Sheet and Zack Ryder, sometimes I like to look back at where it all began.



One wonders where Zack would be today if he never made this appearance and gotten a chance to show off his catchphrase.

The fact it started as "you know it woo woo woo" blows my mind. IT USED TO BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND!

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From: JaKyL25 | #252

Plus they're smart enough to position the Rumble on that one January weekend where there's no NFL Playoff game. Maximum viewers!

Oh really? Smart.

Also yeah, big build for the rumble makes sense, it's just...augh. It was hard enough going from the 2/3 week builds of Vengeance and HiaC to the usual 4 weeks from Vengeance -> SvS!

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Also I like this time of year because it breaks up the TNAPPV--WWEPPV--NoPPV--NoPPV routine we get over 4-week stretches most of the year.

TLC
No PPV
No PPV
Genesis
No PPV
No PPV
Royal Rumble
No PPV
Against All Odds
Elimination Chamber
No PPV
No PPV
No PPV
Victory Road
No PPV
Wrestlemania

Not counting iPPVs from smaller feds of course.

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First TNA show I watched in a month or so

It wasn't great, but a lot better than the last few I'd seen. There were 2 or 3 decent matches and not an absurd amount of yapping. And apparently Karen Angle was recently fired in storyline (hopefully for real too) and didn't appear so that's definitely a plus.

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Pretty great episode of Impact.

Madison was amazing, particularly her being genre-savvy enough to recognize the standard TNA power structure of "whoever claims to have power, has power." LOVE it!!!

Pope's promo was p excellent too.

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From: JaKyL25 | #248
Speaking of The Dirt Sheet and Zack Ryder, sometimes I like to look back at where it all began.



One wonders where Zack would be today if he never made this appearance and gotten a chance to show off his catchphrase.

Is this where it started? I remember seeing a video Hawkins made and he just came in and said it. I thought I remembered posting it here. It was years ago though.

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CLAP IT UP

also I could've sworn it started out as woo woo wee woo or something silly like that

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From: Wanglicious | #238
aw yeah final battle crew.
actually who else is going.

i'm not

not even watching it

leaving in like 10 minutes to drive to ann arbor for christmas FML

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Dat Dirt sheet, like JoMo with charisma?

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Ryder still would have had a chance. He revolved his entire gimmick around it when he went to debut on ECW, so he would've done the Woo Woo Woo You Know It anyway.

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From: TimJab | #258
Is this where it started? I remember seeing a video Hawkins made and he just came in and said it. I thought I remembered posting it here. It was years ago though.

As far as I know, this is the first documented appearance of Woo Woo Woo. It's from over 3 years ago!

If you can find a prior video then by all means present it! This needs to be documented for posterity.

From: Tom Bombadil | #259
also I could've sworn it started out as woo woo wee woo or something silly like that

He tried to evolve it into that. <_<



Didn't quite take off though.

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Remember when Zack wore the trunks with one pantleg? That look was freaking awesome and he should have stuck with it.

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IIRC the higher-ups didn't like it.

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From: TimJab | #260
i'm not

not even watching it

leaving in like 10 minutes to drive to ann arbor for christmas FML

If you can make it by belltime you can come watch it me! Big screen via Roku box!

BYOB

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Regarding Impact, I loved the "Cowboy" Kurt Angle segments. A nice nod to his goofy side while at the same time staying true to his TNA badassery.

Singlehandedly kicking 5 regular guys' asses the way he did does a lot to put Storm over in comparison.

On one hand I really hope they're building to Roode (c) vs. Storm at Lockdown in April in a cage. It seems like the perfect blowoff for them, but it's a ways away.

Roode has Hardy at Genesis, and then there are 2 more PPVs before Lockdown. The Against All Odds poster might be signifying the return of the 8 Card Stud tournament. I would love for that to happen, with the winner getting the title shot at Victory Road, and then the finals coming down to James Storm vs. RVD or something, with Roode interfering on behalf of RVD to try and help him win, just to avoid Storm.

Despite the shoddy pacing of Roode's angle, I really really like how he doesn't seem to be afraid of any potential challenger except Storm. Sure, he doesn't like the idea of defending his title against top level guys like Styles or Hardy, but when his back is against the wall he doesn't hesitate to do what he needs to do to retain. Storm feels like the one guy he truly is ducking, and that will eventually make for a great feud-ending match.

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On one hand I really hope they're building to Roode (c) vs. Storm at Lockdown in April in a cage. It seems like the perfect blowoff for them, but it's a ways away.

You don't by chance remember the last time James Storm was in a singles match at Lockdown, do you?

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was that the blindfold match

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From: SmartMuffin | #269
You don't by chance remember the last time James Storm was in a singles match at Lockdown, do you?

Yeah, it was just last year! RVD vs. Storm for the man advantage in Lethal Lockdown later that night. RVD won.

I'm sure you meant something prior to that though.

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I actually meant the "blindfold match" against Chris Harris which has the ridiculous distinction of being in the running for "worst match of all time" and yet not even necessarily definitively the worst match on that card.

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http://www.wrestlenewz.com/wrestling/wwe-news/kane-or-cena-as-wwe-champion-catchphrase-for-new-wwe-character-more/

The Kansas Expocentre in Topeka, Kansas is advertising a WWE Title Match between John Cena and Kane for the February 3rd RAW live event. CM Punk vs. Alberto Del Rio is also advertised.

This is a bit concerning.

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Yeah. I had a local ad advertising Orton vs. Miz in a cage for the title both far after that feud had ended AND Miz lost the title.

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Those local ads are very rarely correct. A local event was advertising Alberto Del Rio as the champion well after he lost the belt and he never got it back before the event happened.

Basically if it's a house show you can take what they say about the current state of affairs with a grain of salt.

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I bet the person who wrote it just guessed which match on the card was the title match.

Be honest, you'd have picked Cena vs. Kane too!

Or maybe it was just a muscle memory typo, from so many years of typing "WWE Champion John Cena" <_<

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Yeah, I was gonna say...

It took me about a minute to realize just why you thought that was concerning in the first place. "Ohhhhhh, that's right, Cena ISN'T the champ right now!"

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Last minute Final Battle predictions:

Davey Richards (c) vs. Eddie Edwards
Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team (c) vs. The Briscoe Brothers
Jay Lethal (c) vs. El Generico vs. Mike Bennett
Kevin Steen vs. Steve Corino
All-Night Express vs. Future Shock vs. The Bravado Brothers vs. The Young Bucks vs. Caprice Coleman/Cedric Alexander
Michael Elgin vs. TJ Perkins
Jimmy Rave vs. Tomasso Ciampa
Roderick Strong vs. ???

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Holy ****, ditching PG is definitely a great move for Maria. WOW.

LOL she gets "CM PUNK" chants though. Sick burn ROH crowd.

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Oh man, Mark Henry already making me miss him as champion.

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Ryder over Rhodes he's ascending faster than ZigZag

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Maria is back in wrestling?

Hell yeah!

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Lots of Raw workers on Smackdown. Invasion storyline?

Miz botching all over his lines

Also that Mark Henry vs Big Show was somehow worse than I could have ever imagined.

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huh are they really thinking of Show against Shaq?

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Sheamus continues to squash everyone from jobbers to main eventers without so much as a hint of a storyline. He barely gets any non-match screen time. I can't think of anything like this before.

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Wow, this angle CONTINUES to take my breath away at every turn.

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From: JaKyL25 | #280
Holy ****, ditching PG is definitely a great move for Maria. WOW.

LOL she gets "CM PUNK" chants though. Sick burn ROH crowd.

Did you watch $5 Wrestling a couple weeks ago? She was great in that.


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oh man I just noticed that in that prophetless video that when they first go to the swings they focus on a leaf that looks like the Canadian flag its gotta be jericho

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The Canadian flag is a red herring. The kid talking in the videos is clearly implying that whoever debuts will be "the real deal."

Damn, this Daniel Bryan vs Dolph Ziggler match is incredible.

Just as I'm typing that, "I'm going to make everyone happy. I'm going to make this match a tag-team match!" That's not making anyone happy! This was TV Match of the Year up until that!

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"happy christmas"

wade barrett heeling it up

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Roderick Strong's mystery opponent...that'll work.

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There was so much wrong in that match

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Okay, Davey Richards really needs to be stopped.

It's REALLY starting to get stale. Still a **** match through their sheer force of will and incredible workrate, but I feel like the ROH main event scene has really lost track of...something as far as being efficient pro wrestlers.

Steen is the savior.

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i'm fine with the davey win, but the way he won it was weird - they basically replayed davey vs. eddie 2, down to the finish no less. there was a LOT wrong with the show tonight.


(spoilers for final battle obv)




first off, Rave losing was fine. that's how it should be anyway. ditto for Steen's return, but man he took some seriously nasty bumps. the TV title was alright - Lethal or Generico are acceptable, Bennet isn't because he really, really sucks. Maria was the only reason he'd have won it. Davey winning is fine too. and Hero losing to Roddy can be fine or can be not fine depending on his circumstances. if he's staying for a bit, shoulda won. title scene then looks like Steen/Davey/Eddie/Hero/Roddy. the two new additions are very, very helpful. honestly there isnt' much reason i'd NOT have Hero win that match. also, truth martini's outfits are amazing.

the tag division is in major peril. the match with 5 teams had some good matches but it rather sucked the way things kept going. it made perfect sense for ANX to win that in all ways - they were last, they've been built hard over the year, THEY should be the guys to beat. it didn't happen. and yet that's the lesser problem - the fact is they lost due to the ref calling the match. not because Titus tapped because he didn't. that was clear, he was not going to tap. they lost because the ref stepped in and said 'no, you are not going to continue.' which is pure BS.

LATER that night, we have the TNA of ROH matches. let me list the things that went wrong.
1) The beatdown at the start COULD have been fine. there's plenty of reason WGTT would want to beat the living hell out of the Briscoes. the arena treated them like heels the whole way and they just went **** it, we'll be heel. and know what? that's fine. they beat the daylights out of 'em, busted Jay open (big surprise i know), and... this was before the match started. with both of them beaten, one of them bloodied, the same ref that stopped Titus from competing was okay with starting this one. .....what?
2) the beatdown could've been fine still even with that ref problem if they won. ditto for the heel turn really - it'd change the atmosphere a lot. it'd offset the damage done to them becuase hey, while it's painful to have your ribs taped up and stuff, it's a lot more painful to have just gotten your ass destroyed. spoilers: they lost. the beatdown was pointless. as was the heel turn.
3) during the match shelton's 'injuries' came to play and he was brought to the back. now, since this IS for the tag titles, it would make sense that if one is unable to compete, they lose the match in a similar way to a dq, right? nope. match continued as a handicap match. why. this made no sense.
4) the above made LESS sense when he returned after about 5 minutes. he was brought to the back to make the match MORE of a cluster****.
5) after all that, we had a scene with a ref bump in what could've been a win for WGTT. again. thanks for that. not only was everything else wrong here, but A GODDAMN REF BUMP.
6) the ref bump took so friggin' long that a giant piece of wood was used on each of the briscoes and the ref was STILL down. and the crowd was loud.
7) the ref bump took so long that it only just happened to wake up when the briscoes landed their finisher to win the belts. ....way to go guys. way to go. this was absolutely amazing with how silly it got.

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