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DeathChicken
12/25/11 10:13:00 PM
#401:


On a completely random note, WWE 12 is frigging awesome. The downloadable CAWs are the best idea ever. I just got the game, and have Rick Rude and Sabu death feuding

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12/26/11 1:30:00 AM
#402:


from the observer

Former TNA wrestlers Chris Harris and Trenesha Biggers (Rhaka Khan) were both born on Christmas. Harris turns 38 today. Biggers turns 30. Among others who were born on Christmas include Sir Isaac Newton (who if it wasn't for him, Pac would just be another guy)

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EmDubyaSee
12/26/11 2:24:00 AM
#403:


From: Viktor Vaughn | #400
http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/25/john-cena-wwe-lien/#.TvcnFvL4KHE

whoops




Hope they get the house, and he becomes homeless. I'd love to see him become a Flair in that regard, and I hope to god he is stopped in anyway possible before he can become Flair in the Title regard.

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 8:27:00 AM
#404:


I have a challenge for the WWE Production team.

They need to do THIS, but for WWE:


The WWE version of NBA Forever should be the WWE Network commercial.

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Haguile
12/26/11 9:10:00 AM
#405:


From: EmDubyaSee | Posted: 12/26/2011 5:24:11 AM | #403
Hope they get the house, and he becomes homeless. I'd love to see him become a Flair in that regard, and I hope to god he is stopped in anyway possible before he can become Flair in the Title regard.


...What.

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12/26/11 9:14:00 AM
#406:


CONTROVERSY TIME!
WWE's Top 25 Matches of 2011 is up on WWE.com

Join me as I browse through them match by match and offer my live thoughts on the selections.

25.) Cody Rhodes vs. Rey Mysterio, Wrestlemania XXVII
Seems about right. Arguably even the best match that night!

24.) Yoshi Tatsu vs. Tyson Kidd, NXT
This is the Dismembered Action Figure Leg On A Pole Match. Glad to see this feud getting some recognition with its blowoff making the list here. One of the 5 best WWE feuds of the year! There's one other NXT match I hope shows up later, but I doubt it will.

23.) Edge vs. Kane, SmackDown
Oh wow, I can't believe someone else remembered this! I've always thought that this Last Man Standing match was the best match from that opening week of the year, even better than Miz vs. Morrison FCA (which will probably rank higher but oh well). These two vets did great work in this one, creating a lot of drama with minimal risk even with a normally over-the-top stipulation.

22.) CM Punk vs. The Miz vs. Alberto Del Rio, TLC
The awesome triple threat TLC match scores a place on the list. No complaints yet.

21.) Randy Orton vs. Cody Rhodes, SmackDown
The first of what I hope is many Orton matches on this list. This match saw the end of the Grotesque Cody Rhodes character, and he went out with a classic. I remember this match tearing the house down that night, and by the end, Cody may have lost, but he had also arrived.

20.) The Miz vs. John Morrison, Raw
This is that Falls Count Anywhere match from the first show of the year I mentioned earlier. Great stuff.

19.) SmackDown Elimination Chamber Match, Elimination Chamber
WHOA, this one is a little underrated. I expected Top Ten! The Raw one better not be higher! Edge vs. Rey to close this bad boy out absolutely stole the show.

18.) Randy Orton vs. CM Punk, Extreme Rules
I'm glad that this one got recognized over their WM match. The second LMS match on the list! Orton grew so much as a face in this feud, and I bet a few matches higher up on this list will show the fruits of that labor.

17.) Alberto Del Rio vs. Rey Mysterio, Raw
A somewhat forgotten match, amidst all the Punk/Cena/ADR/Trips/Nash stuff, these two went out and put on their usual clinic, and sent Rey packing for the rest of the year.

16.) Randy Orton vs. Dolph Ziggler, Raw
A fantastic meaningless (though dramatic!) free TV match. I'd swap this and Orton/Rhodes, but no complaints for getting it on the list.

15.) Mark Henry vs. Daniel Bryan, SmackDown
The cage match. Such a refreshing alternative to the usual WWE template match. Kudos to both guys for the best Big Man vs. Little Man match in ages, and possibly the best finishing move all year.

14.) Randy Orton vs. Wade Barrett, TLC
I feel that this is the first true misstep on this list. A good match, but not Top 25 material. Sorry guys.

13.) CM Punk vs. Rey Mysterio, Capitol Punishment
Top Ten material IMO. I'm eager to see what bumped it! The best match from a technical standpoint in WWE in 2011 IMO.

12.) John Cena vs. The Miz vs. John Morrison, Extreme Rules
The second cage match on the list! These three defied expectations that a 3-way cage match with escape rules would be really stupid, and put on a classic.

11.) Mark Henry vs. Big Show, Vengeance
A bit overrated due to the unusual finish, IMO. Putting this over Henry/Bryan is a shame. Still, this was FAR better than their Survivor Series match, and I'd have no problem with it a lot lower on the list.

Top Ten in the next post!

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TheKoolAidShoto
12/26/11 9:25:00 AM
#407:


lol #1 pick

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 9:32:00 AM
#408:


WWE's Top 25 Matches of 2011 as rated by WWE.com, contunued.

10.) SmackDown Money in the Bank Ladder Match, Money in the Bank
A great choice, and IMO the better of the two MitB matches that night. I bet the other one shows up higher though.

9.) Edge vs. Dolph Ziggler, Royal Rumble
A little overrated but definitely Top Twenty material. Just like how Cody arrived in his loss to Orton, this is where Ziggler proved he belonged as a main-eventer.

8.) The Rock/John Cena vs. The Awesome Truth, Survivor Series
Umm, no. Top 50 maybe, just for the spectacle, but #8? Please.

7.) Royal Rumble match, Royal Rumble
A bit overrated, but definitely belongs on the list. Rumbles are (almost) always must-see!

6.) Christian vs. Alberto Del Rio, Extreme Rules
Extreme Rules with its 3rd showing on the list! Kind of an underrated PPV. This one definitely belongs here.

5.) John Cena vs. Rey Mysterio, Raw
Rey's second match that night, and his best all year. A dream match sort of encounter you thought you'd never see, and they delivered. Best Raw match of the year IMO.

4.) Raw Elimination Chamber Match, Elimination Chamber
Highly disagree with this ranking. If you swapped the Chamber matches on the list I think we'd be much more in line with reality. Definitely belongs on the list though.

3.) Randy Orton vs. Christian, Over the Limit
Definitely belongs in the Top Five, but I am utterly shocked that no other match from this feud made it. The Summerslam match was better IMO, and the SmackDown match to start the feud belonged as well. No qualms about this placement, but wow, only one?

2.) CM Punk vs. John Cena, Money in the Bank
Uh oh, I was hoping this wasn't #2, because now we know what #1 is...

1.) The Undertaker vs. Triple H, Wrestlemania XXVII
I think we've all had about enough of the debate about this match, but I think even its staunchest supporters would agree that it has no place topping Cena/Punk. Interesting that WM only places on the list twice, at #1 and #25. Even WWE knows it was a sub-par WM! I bet they shoehorned Cody vs. Rey on here just to get WM on the list a second time.

So that's their opinion. I don't disagree TOO much with the overall contents, though obviously I'd shake things around a lot. I would definitely drop Orton vs. Barrett and Rock/Cena vs. Awesome Truth from the list and replace them with two other Orton vs. Christian matches, but other than those two selections I can't say anything they ranked didn't belong. Not bad WWE.

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XIII_rocks
12/26/11 9:32:00 AM
#409:


I thought the top 10 was particularly solid. At least in terms of most of the choices made. Couple of odd picks though yeah and Rey/Punk should have been higher

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voltch
12/26/11 9:35:00 AM
#410:


DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE, WHERE'S MY SD CHAMBER IN THE TOP 3????

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 9:40:00 AM
#411:


LOL @ this from the Punk/Cena write-up:

"For the first time in a long time, WWE fans had no idea what would happen next."

WWE.com passive-aggressively hating on WWE booking!

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XIII_rocks
12/26/11 9:41:00 AM
#412:


I noticed that too when I read the list. >_>

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Coffee Ninja
12/26/11 9:43:00 AM
#413:


My WWE 12 really wants to be...WWE

I had Lita in The Flock with Raven, Kaz and Syxx-Pac, and she left..but who does she start to go with?

Edge.

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Coffee Ninja
12/26/11 9:48:00 AM
#414:




anyone seen this? It was posted by Punk apparently, prob means nothing, or is just Taker. lol Sting.

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 9:52:00 AM
#415:


Well, the YouTube channel the mystery promo directs you to is clearly a fan-made Sting promo.

My guess is that whoever made that part stuck it into a Raw promo just for fun, and somehow Punk accidentally stole it not even realizing that it wasn't the real full promo for Raw.

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Dr_Football
12/26/11 9:54:00 AM
#416:


John Morrison is a master if parkour!

Refuses to drop 6 feet to win title

That triple threat cage match was almost as bad as hhh-taker!

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voltch
12/26/11 9:58:00 AM
#417:


Hey guys, for maneuver of the year remember to give points to SEX PARTY!



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JaKyL25
12/26/11 10:07:00 AM
#418:


IAmJericho Chris Jericho
Sick of all the questions so this is it...from now on I'm not answering anymore wrestling related questions. I'm done w WWE. Deal with it


Jericho come back!

You troll.

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voltch
12/26/11 10:17:00 AM
#419:


Jericho in Tsun~ tsun~ mode.

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/26/11 12:45:00 PM
#420:


http://www.wwe.com/inside/top25/top-25-matches-2011

25. Rey Mysterio vs Cody Rhodes - Wrestlemania
24. Yoshi Tatsu vs Tyson Kidd - NXT
23. Edge vs Kane - Last Man Standing - Smackdown
22. CM Punk vs The Miz vs Alberto Del Rio - TLC
21. Cody Rhodes vs Randy Orton - Street Fight - Smackdown
20. The Miz vs John Morrison - Fall count anywhere - RAW
19. Smackdown Elimination Chamber Match - Elimination Chamber
18. Randy Orton vs CM Punk - Last Man Standing - Extreme Rules
17. Alberto Del Rio vs Rey Mysterio - RAW
16. Dolph Ziggler vs Randy Orton - RAW
15. Mark Henry vs Daniel Bryan - Cage Match - Smackdown
14. Wade Barrett vs Randy Orton - Table match - TLC
13. Rey Mysterio vs CM Punk - Capitol Punishment
12. The Miz vs John Cena vs John Morrison - Cage match - Extreme Rules
11. Mark Henry vs The Big Show - Vengeance
10. Smackdown MITB ladder match - Money in the bank
9. Edge vs Dolph Ziggler - Royal Rumble
8. John Cena and The Rock vs Awesome Truth - Survivor Series
7. The 40 man Royal Rumble match - Royal Rumble
6. Christian vs Alberto Del Rio - Ladder match - Extreme Rules
5. Rey Mysterio vs John Cena - RAW
4. RAW Elimination chamber match - Elimination Chamber
3. Randy Orton vs Christian - Over the Limit
2. John Cena vs CM Punk - Money in the Bank
1. Undertaker vs Triple H - Wrestlemania

lol @ Cena vs Punk not being number 1.

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Viktor Vaughn
12/26/11 12:52:00 PM
#421:


14 posts up, dude

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 1:07:00 PM
#422:


PPVs with no representation on the list:

Summerslam
Night of Champions
Hell in a Cell


Summerslam and HiaC getting blanked is kinda amusing considering that WWE considers Summerslam the #2 PPV and Hell in a Cell #6.

Summerslam got jobbed though.

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 1:11:00 PM
#423:


Someone on PWB is going to attempt a user-generated match ratings database.

http://matchrankings.weebly.com/

I propose that we our eye on this to see if it actually comes to fruition. It's not a bad idea if you can keep idiots out.

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XIII_rocks
12/26/11 1:15:00 PM
#424:


HiaC had the fun Punk/Cena/ADR tt I guess. NoC didn't have anything particularly good.

But Summerslam could have had Cena/Punk 2, maybe Barrett/Bryan, but definitely Orton/Christian.

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voltch
12/26/11 1:37:00 PM
#425:


How do you propose to keep PWB idiots out of that?

They're the ones who near unanimously agreed that Raven had more charisma than the Rock.

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 1:43:00 PM
#426:


http://vids.wwe.com/14381/wwecom-exclusive-wade-barrett-st

More roving reporter Wade Barrett getting the scoops.

Or at least harassing Kevin Eck.

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voltch
12/26/11 1:54:00 PM
#427:


oh since WWE released their top 25 matches.

What do you guys think are the legit best TNA matches of the year?

Sure they got crappy booking but from time to time they can have just absolutely outstanding matches.

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 1:58:00 PM
#428:


I think the top two are fairly clear, pick one.

AJ vs. Bully Ray, Slammiversary
Aries vs. Low-Ki vs. Evans vs. Ion, Destination X

From there you have a mishmash of very good stuff like Beer Money vs. MCMG, Anderson vs. Hardy ladder, Angle vs. Jarrett (AAO), AJ vs. Daniels (DX), Lethal Lockdown, Roode vs. Storm, Roode vs. AJ iron man, and Aries vs. Kash.

Those would be my Top Ten in some order.

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 2:09:00 PM
#429:


DA MELTZ~! sez re: TNA 2011 matches:

****1/4 level
Jarrett vs. Angle, Against All Odds

**** level
Angle vs. Jarrett, Lockdown
Lethal Lockdown
Bully Ray vs. Styles, Slammiversary
Aries vs. Low-Ki vs. Ion vs. Evans, Destination X

***3/4 level
Beer Money vs. MCMG, Genesis
Angle vs. Jarrett, Slammiversary
Styles vs. Daniels, Destination X
Angle vs. Storm, 9/22 Impact

***1/2 level
Bully Ray vs. Devon, Genesis
Anderson vs. Hardy, Genesis
Bully Ray vs. Devon, Against All Odds
Angle vs. Sting, Hardcore Justice
Aries vs. Kendrick, Bound For Glory
Anderson vs. Bully Ray, Bound For Glory
Roode vs. Styles, Final Resolution

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ScareChan
12/26/11 2:44:00 PM
#430:


From: JaKyL25 | #404




I thought Ewing and Stodimire was awesome and then Derrick and Jordan and I marked. That was great!

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 2:50:00 PM
#431:


I know! And WWE is built on the same sort of legends the NBA is.

Can't you just imagine a commercial where Bruno is tangling with Hogan, where Andre and Show are staring each other down, and where Rocky Johnson is making the hot tag to The Rock?

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ScareChan
12/26/11 2:57:00 PM
#432:


Take the hogan v andre stare and mix it with the trips taker stare from the challenge

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ScareChan
12/26/11 2:57:00 PM
#433:


Swap out Edge spearing Cena with Goldberg spearing Cena

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 3:06:00 PM
#434:


Swap out HBK for Bryan in the Iron Man match trading submissions with Bret, with the timer reading

BH: 0
DB: 0
01:00 remaining

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 3:22:00 PM
#435:


This picture Punk posted is fascinating because of the big board in the back.

https://p.twimg.com/Ahn-nURCAAAwioa.jpg:large

If I'm reading that correctly...they make the NXT guys dress in their own facilities away from the other talent?

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Haguile
12/26/11 3:38:00 PM
#436:


Can you actually read what that board says?
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JaKyL25
12/26/11 3:40:00 PM
#437:


Yeah, it's pretty clear on my monitor.

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Viktor Vaughn
12/26/11 3:42:00 PM
#438:


GORILLA

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SmartMuffin
12/26/11 3:48:00 PM
#439:


If I'm reading that correctly...they make the NXT guys dress in their own facilities away from the other talent?

The other rooms are labeled "Female Talent" and "Male Talent"

I think we can all agree that describing the participants in NXT as "Talent" would be a bit of a stretch!

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Masato_Tanaka
12/26/11 3:50:00 PM
#440:


http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2011-12-19/john-cena-monster-photos

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Haguile
12/26/11 3:58:00 PM
#441:


I must be either blind or have a terrible monitor, because it all looks blurry as hell to me!
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JaKyL25
12/26/11 4:01:00 PM
#442:


It's labeled as "WWE Production Locations" and it has arrows next to each line telling you which direction to go in to get there, wherever they have them set up at around the arena.

From top-to-bottom it reads:

Vince's Office
Catering
Production Meeting
Production Office
Gorilla
TV Office
TV Locker Room
Pretapes
Backstage Set
Talent Relations
Male Talent
Female Talent
NXT
Extra Talent
[9 rows obscured by Punk's arm]
Merch
Guest

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GTM
12/26/11 4:02:00 PM
#443:


The words themselves are clear, even if the picture itself is blurry.

And I know what the gorilla position is, but the idea of a sign directing people to a gorilla backstage doing production stuff is hilarious to me

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12/26/11 4:04:00 PM
#444:


come on jakyl, you figured out "Extra Talent", use your skills and figure out what's above Merch!

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 4:05:00 PM
#445:


Well it clearly ends in "ing."

...Tanning?

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Masato_Tanaka
12/26/11 4:33:00 PM
#446:


I'd argue that Punk/Orton from Mania should be on WWE's list, as well as Rey/Rhodes from the PPV being ranked slightly higher. Course I attended WM27, so I'm a little biased I guess.

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voltch
12/26/11 5:02:00 PM
#447:


I liked Orton vs Punk LMS quite a bit more than the mania bout. Something about the ending spot of the mania match sorta made it look goofy to me.

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 5:10:00 PM
#448:


Speaking of mixing and matching footage from different eras, these WWE All-Stars match build promos are awesome.



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12/26/11 5:26:00 PM
#449:




LMAO at this promo

HOW MANY RINGS YOU SET UP SHELTON

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JaKyL25
12/26/11 5:36:00 PM
#450:


Did you buy the PPV?

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