Board 8 > Objectively, DKC2 is the best platformer ever made.

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BoshStrikesBack
11/01/11 1:36:00 PM
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As well as the peak of Rare's once-illustrious career.

I'm making this because you can never have too much DKC discussion! I'd be curious as to what B8 thinks are other possible contenders

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UberPyro64
11/01/11 1:37:00 PM
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You spelt Super Mario Bros. 3 wrong.

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Dauntless Hunter
11/01/11 1:37:00 PM
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It wasn't even the best Super Nintendo platformer released in the 1995 holiday season.

Yoshi's Island so much better.

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UberPyro64
11/01/11 1:39:00 PM
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Dauntless Hunter posted...
It wasn't even the best Super Nintendo platformer released in the 1995 holiday season.

Yoshi's Island so much better.


This.

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Metal_DK
11/01/11 1:39:00 PM
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its certainly up there. Hell, its a top game ever made.

Other platformers id argue off the top of my head

Mega Man 2
Bucky O'Hare
Super Mario Brothers 3
Super Mario World

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Emporer_Kazbar
11/01/11 1:41:00 PM
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Super Mario World begs to differ

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Pokewars
11/01/11 1:42:00 PM
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Objectively, DKC2 is the best platformer ever made.

Truth all around.

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th3l3fty
11/01/11 1:52:00 PM
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it's hard for something to be objectively the best when it's not even good by any measure

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EndOfDiscOne
11/01/11 1:54:00 PM
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DKC2 and Yoshi's Island are the best. Don't fight guys.

I'd probably give the edge to DKC2 so Imma go with C here

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KanzarisKelshen
11/01/11 1:54:00 PM
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Mario.

But I'll give you that DKC2 has some really clever design.

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wg64Z
11/01/11 1:56:00 PM
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Any Mega Man X (1-4) trumps any other platformer, sorry.

Although I ****ing love DKC2, and the others as well. And Mario.
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LeonhartFour
11/01/11 1:57:00 PM
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From: th3l3fty | #008
it's hard for something to be objectively the best when it's not even good by any measure


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LeonhartFour
11/01/11 1:57:00 PM
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Although I always "LOL" when people try to justify their video game opinions by saying it's "objective."

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NeoElfboy
11/01/11 2:02:00 PM
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"DKC"... "best platformer"

Just no. Even within the same darn era there's Mario and Mega Man games to compete with.

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BlackMetalex
11/01/11 2:03:00 PM
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http://www.sirlin.net/articles/the-secrets-of-donkey-kong-country-2.html

but guys, this well respected person says DKC2 is the most well designed platformer ever, so obviously it's objectively the best.
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JaKyL25
11/01/11 2:04:00 PM
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It always feels weird to me when people refer to Mega Man games as platformers, because to my gut reaction, they're action games.

But then I think about it more and realize that yeah, the action is secondary to the platforming and for the most part only exists to make the platforming more difficult.

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GuessMyUserName
11/01/11 2:05:00 PM
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DKC2 not even best DKC game

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Not Dave
11/01/11 2:05:00 PM
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i will never understand why people here like yoshi's island so much

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Liquid Wind
11/01/11 2:06:00 PM
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true topic is true, but perfect dark gives it a run for its money as "peak of rare". there is absolutely no debate that DKC2 is the greatest platformer ever, though.
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pjbasis
11/01/11 2:08:00 PM
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From: EndOfDiscOne | #009
DKC2 and Yoshi's Island are the best. Don't fight guys.

I'd probably give the edge to DKC2 so Imma go with C here


This.
To the letter.
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LeonhartFour
11/01/11 2:10:00 PM
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From: Not Dave | #018
i will never understand why people here like yoshi's island so much


This.

It's a good game, but it's not even a top 5 Mario game.

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BoshStrikesBack
11/01/11 2:22:00 PM
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It wasn't even the best Super Nintendo platformer released in the 1995 holiday season.

Yoshi's Island so much better.


A prime contender. Yoshi's Island is exceptional, and happens to excel in many of the same areas as DKC2, namely beautiful aesthetics, great music, and masterful level design. If I was nitpicking, I could accuse YI of being collect-a-thony at times.

Although I always "LOL" when people try to justify their video game opinions by saying it's "objective."

Anyone who knows me knows that I'm using that word ironically. Hipster, etc.

DKC2 not even best DKC game

DKC is my favorite platforming series, so I don't have too much problem with this.

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pjbasis
11/01/11 2:26:00 PM
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Oh man Leon got owned.
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LeonhartFour
11/01/11 2:28:00 PM
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From: BoshStrikesBack | #022
Anyone who knows me knows that I'm using that word ironically.


Too bad nobody knows you!

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TheCodeisBosco
11/01/11 2:39:00 PM
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Donkey Kong Country 2 is a great choice, but yeah, I've gotta go with Yoshi's Island.

I think SMB1 would edge out DKC2 as well.

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Liquid Wind
11/01/11 2:45:00 PM
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yoshi's island is for COMMUNISTS


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Zylo the wolf
11/01/11 2:58:00 PM
#27:


Best platformer on the SNES, sure.

Better than say...Ristar? Nope! Better than Sonic 2? Nope! Better than Rocket Knight Adventures? Maybe....Does it last longer than Kid Chameleon? Of course not.

Genesis DOES what Nintendon't!

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greatone10
11/01/11 2:59:00 PM
#28:


I would say that DKC2 is the best game ever, objectively.

Yoshi's Island is a close second as far as platforming goes.

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TheKoolAidShoto
11/01/11 3:02:00 PM
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This is an opinion I'm ok with someone having.

From: Zylo the wolf | #027
Better than say...Ristar? Nope!


This, isn't, however

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demonfang178
11/01/11 4:09:00 PM
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UberPyro64 posted...
You spelt Super Mario Bros. 3 wrong.

The man said objectively, which means taking into account EVERY stage. When SMB3 is good, it's good, but when it's bad, it's mediocre.
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VincentLauw
11/01/11 4:11:00 PM
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Objectively, [insert my opinion here].

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Justin_Crossing
11/01/11 4:13:00 PM
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objectively super mario galaxy is the best platformer ever

this is because it is the highest-rated platformer on gamerankings and metacritic

argue that

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VincentLauw
11/01/11 4:14:00 PM
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From: Justin_Crossing | #032
objectively super mario galaxy is the best platformer ever

this is because it is the highest-rated platformer on gamerankings and metacritic

argue that


But critical scores mean nothing! Objectively only my opinion matters.

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EndOfDiscOne
11/01/11 4:15:00 PM
#34:


Justin_Crossing posted...
objectively super mario galaxy is the best platformer ever

this is because it is the highest-rated platformer on gamerankings and metacritic

argue that


Uncharted 3 is better

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Paratroopa1
11/01/11 4:16:00 PM
#35:


DKC2, Super Mario Bros 3, and Yoshi's Island are all pretty good choices for best platformer.

CONTROVERSIAL OPINIONS

Super Mario Galaxy isn't though. It's cool but there's way too many annoying parts, especially some of the purple coin stars.
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Justin_Crossing
11/01/11 4:16:00 PM
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From: EndOfDiscOne | #034
Uncharted 3 is better


that's like calling zelda a platformer

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OmarsComin
11/01/11 4:19:00 PM
#37:


here's some platformers I think are better than DKC2

Super Mario Bros 3
Super Mario World
Donkey Kong Country
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Ristar
Rocket Knight Adventures

RKA and DKC2 are pretty close, I could actually go either way on those two. The rest I'm sure I like more. All of these games are really good though.
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VincentLauw
11/01/11 4:20:00 PM
#38:


From: OmarsComin | #037
here's some platformers I think are better than DKC2


Would you say they are objectively better though? This is important.

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Liquid Wind
11/01/11 4:21:00 PM
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I'm willing to say "apples and oranges, opinions etc" on other series' but DKC2 is absolutely better than the first DKC in nearly every way imaginable
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Paratroopa1
11/01/11 4:22:00 PM
#40:


I agree. DKC is a fine game, but DKC2 is just strictly better than it in every way imaginable, and I really don't know what would cause someone to believe otherwise.
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OmarsComin
11/01/11 4:28:00 PM
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I played DKC 1 when I was 8 or 9, and DKC 2 when I was 20. that might be all it is.

Would you say they are objectively better though? This is important.

well I mean most of them have blast processing, so of course. blast processing is objectively better.
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OmarsComin
11/01/11 4:30:00 PM
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also while we're talking about DKC, I don't think 3 is good at all. I don't think I'll ever play it again. DKCR is pretty solid but different from the SNES ones.
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GuessMyUserName
11/01/11 4:31:00 PM
#43:


From: Paratroopa1 | Posted: 11/1/2011 7:16:04 PM | #035
CONTROVERSIAL OPINIONS

Super Mario Galaxy isn't though. It's cool but there's way too many annoying parts, especially some of the purple coin stars.


That's not a controversial opinion

Nobody in their right mind would call SMG1 the best platformer ever because SMG2 trumps it in every way imaginable!

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OmarsComin
11/01/11 4:35:00 PM
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oh if we're counting 3D platformers, list opens up a bit.

Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
Crash 3 Warped
Spyro 1 and 3
Jak and Daxter 1
Ratchet & Clank GC and UYA

those are some 3D platformers that are of comparable quality to the stuff discussed ITT already
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Liquid Wind
11/01/11 4:35:00 PM
#45:


Nobody in their right mind would call SMG1 the best platformer ever because SMG2 trumps it in every way imaginable!

seemed like more of the same to me but admittedly I didn't get that deep into SMG2, neither game stood out as "best ever" material to me regardless
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BoshStrikesBack
11/01/11 4:45:00 PM
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I agree. DKC is a fine game, but DKC2 is just strictly better than it in every way imaginable, and I really don't know what would cause someone to believe otherwise.

I'd argue that DKC has a better soundtrack on the whole; while DKC2's best music is better than DKC's best music, its worst music worse. The original Country also has a completely different feel and look, which some might prefer. Better bosses too.

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PrinceKaro
11/01/11 4:47:00 PM
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It's undoubtedly the best non-mario platformer.

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Liquid Wind
11/01/11 4:49:00 PM
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I like DKC2's soundtrack more on the whole but I do have to say DKC has much better credits music, it kind of irked me that DKC2's credits was one of the few songs on the soundtrack I really didn't like much because anything related to a games ending is part of your final impression of it, it sticks with you the most(wind waker is a perfect example, most of the game is crap but it's garnered a pretty strong following because it's structurally sound, it bombards you with the good stuff at the very end)
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BoshStrikesBack
11/01/11 4:56:00 PM
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Also better final boss music!

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LeonhartFour
11/01/11 5:46:00 PM
#50:


From: BoshStrikesBack | #046
The original Country also has a completely different feel and look, which some might prefer. Better bosses too.


...You're kidding, right?

Two rounds of the Beaver and two rounds of Necky are enough to make DKC1's bosses inferior. Plus, DKC2 has a superior version of the Zinger boss fight anyway.

From: BoshStrikesBack | #049
Also better final boss music!


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