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(4) Lord Foul Lord Foul the Despiser is the primary antagonist of The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. An ancient and seemingly immortal being, he traveled the universe planting evil powers said to be capable of tearing planets apart so that later beings would find them and destroy themselves until the Creator was able to defeat him, and establish the Arch of Time to seal him away in The Land, a single continent. Foul possesses incredibly powerful magical abilities, enough that at full power, direct combat against him would likely cause enough damage to destroy the world. In addition to using his powers for direct destructive means, Foul and those he empowers have used a variety of indirect abilities including manipulating the weather, resurrecting shades of the dead, and summoning creatures that induce extreme fear in all who witness them, though these abilities generally require time to use.
Foul has an inherent power over the undead, able to perfectly enslave any who violate the Law of Death. In addition, his nature as equal and opposite to the Creator means that he cannot be defeated by any power not guided by free will, and attempts to carry artifacts containing mere fractions of his power inevitably corrupt the bearers into serving his will. Though he is apparently immortal, sufficient force directed against him or he himself utilizing all the power at his disposal can nonetheless leave him powerless for many centuries at a time.
(7) Yusuke Urameshi From YuYu Hakusho, Yusuke Urameshi is the teenage protagonist, a “Spirit Detective.” Yusuke’s most common technique is the Spirit Gun, an energy beam which can be projected from small shot to a full-sized cannon blast from his index finger; when reborn as a half-demon, Yusuke upgrades this to the Demon Gun, which is more powerful and can be used so long as he has demon energy.
Yusuke also has other ranged attacks, such as the Shotgun, which fires widespread shots, and Spirit Gun Rapid Fire, which fires all the blasts of his gun rapidly. He can also attack physically with the Spirit Light Bullet, which turns his entire body into a Spirit Gun.
So I'm going to want to be reminded of how powerful Yusuke's energy attacks are (seriously, why does his write up mention various ways of using the same basic attack he has but not anything about how powerful they are?) and how durable he is and susceptible to various indirect attacks like illusions and such. Based on past matches I remember thinking he'd probably have the offense to beat Foul with a prolonged assault, so how long he could keep it up is important.
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Though all the powers of Lord Foul, he suffers from a bad bad bad effect: antagonist. That means, he was already defeated, by the protagonist of his series. And villains do tell more than actions. Yusuke has reborn, became the lord of the underworld, and is the protagonist. That gives him a +10 Will when he's losing. (because he will start losing, given all the powers of Lord). Yusuke Urameshi
Though all the powers of Lord Foul, he suffers from a bad bad bad effect: antagonist. That means, he was already defeated, by the protagonist of his series. And villains do tell more than actions. Yusuke has reborn, became the lord of the underworld, and is the protagonist. That gives him a +10 Will when he's losing. (because he will start losing, given all the powers of Lord). Yusuke Urameshi
>_>
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From: NekoTamago | #010 Though all the powers of Lord Foul, he suffers from a bad bad bad effect: antagonist. That means, he was already defeated, by the protagonist of his series. And villains do tell more than actions. Yusuke has reborn, became the lord of the underworld, and is the protagonist. That gives him a +10 Will when he's losing. (because he will start losing, given all the powers of Lord). Yusuke Urameshi
However, there is another side to the protagonist/antagonist duality, which is that a truly great hero must suffer defeat before he can overcome a great adversity. Lord Foul certainly qualifies as great adversity, and his plans tend to create defeat after defeat for his foes until the very end. Is Yusuke a great hero? I don't know, but according to your post I assume he must be, and thus I submit to you that good story telling dictates that in this, their first meeting, Yusuke is obligated to lose in order to further his own character arc. Lord Foul thus wins the day
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It most likely would be a fight between Many Spirit Gun shots while Foul tries to summon creatures... if Yusuke could destroy Foul in the time period before the summonings, it would go to him, if not, Foul...
EDIT: Also, isn't it within Yusuke's character to start with a melee game to see how it goes? Well, doubt he'd do as such against a guy that looks like a ghost, maybe...
I can't imagine Foul would summon anything unless there had been serious distance created first. He's only ever really done it personally off-screen (bringing back Elena and the giant Raver that had killed the Seareach giants) and the Ravers have only done it in siege situations. No doubt he could pull it off himself since he gave them the power to do it in the first place (he created the Illearth Stone and all) but it's not an immediate process and he's not an idiot.
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Foul has an inherent power over the undead, able to perfectly enslave any who violate the Law of Death.
Yusuke was dead when the series started off, though the first story arc focused on him earning his resurrection. Towards the end of the series, he died again, only to come back again, this time thanks to his latent demonic heritage, which REALLY surprised everyone. If the first incident didn't violate the law of death, the second almost certainly does. Advantage goes to Lord Foul...
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There never was a post. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and refracted the light from Venus.
Foul has an inherent power over the undead, able to perfectly enslave any who violate the Law of Death.
Yusuke was dead when the series started off, though the first story arc focused on him earning his resurrection. Towards the end of the series, he died again, only to come back again, this time thanks to his latent demonic heritage, which REALLY surprised everyone. If the first incident didn't violate the law of death, the second almost certainly does. Advantage goes to Lord Foul...
Yeah, that pretty much seals it.
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The phrasing "any who violate the Law of Death" suggests this extends beyond the undead (and could be read to include the necromancer as well as the zombie). Perhaps a clarification of what counts as a "violation" is in order?
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From: Altimadark | #017 Yusuke was dead when the series started off, though the first story arc focused on him earning his resurrection (as his death surprised the Powers That Be). Towards the end of the series, he died again, only to come back on his own, this time thanks to his latent demonic heritage, which REALLY surprised everyone. If the first incident didn't violate the law of death, the second almost certainly does. Advantage goes to Lord Foul...
Oh. Derp.
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From: KanzarisKelshen | #022 I actually don't buy it. Revival =/= undeath after all.
The main example of it happening is when someone tried to call for a dead guy to be brought back to help fight the war. He came back, told her she should banish him immediately before Foul caught on, and then Foul took control of him (from a continent's length away, even). Didn't come back as a standard "come back in your exact body" revival (he was basically a giant magical shape), but then Foul himself brought someone back in that kind of way to control her. It's less about being undead and more about having come back from the dead.
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Also to head off the argument before it starts, the Law of Death is a specific thing of sorts in the setting, but having the various laws (including the broken ones, since Foul is at his best when that one is broken) is actually closer to neutral terrain than ignoring them, since taking away the various things that limit him in his own series makes him go into unquantifiable weird zone and become too big a headache for this contest <_< "Foul without one law" is a lot better than removing all influence of his setting and getting "Foul who flew around the universe ****ing up worlds and trapping stars in the sky and weird ****"
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From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch
ugh... he is a spirit, in all senses, before a demon... I'm quite sure by law of dead... Lord Foul would have command over Yusuke's powers at the very least...
Foul has an inherent power over the undead, able to perfectly enslave any who violate the Law of Death.
Yusuke was dead when the series started off, though the first story arc focused on him earning his resurrection (as his death surprised the Powers That Be). Towards the end of the series, he died again, only to come back on his own, this time thanks to his latent demonic heritage, which REALLY surprised everyone. If the first incident didn't violate the law of death, the second almost certainly does. Advantage goes to Lord Foul...
EDIT: minor clarification
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http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously?
Man I was actually looking forward to what I thought would be a debatable match here then woops turns out Foul's every match is going to be a simple matter (three simple wins then trolled out by Sarda)
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The funny thing is I could probably concoct an argument about why Sarda's powers and personality would ensure his defeat but then I'd be going back on my word when this began that I *wouldn't* do stupid **** like extrapolating Foul into being able to win matches he shouldn't <_<
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