Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character 2011: Super Sonic vs. Majin Buu [MPFC]

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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 4:25:00 PM
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The Rules:

-Matches will last exactly 24 hours. Votes after that much time has elapsed will not be counted, even if a new topic hasn't gone up yet.
-This is a contest to determine which character is the most *powerful*. Vote only for the character you think would win in a fight, not the one who's funnier, cooler, or sexier. If you don't do that I can't count your vote.
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-Rallying is allowed. Alts are not.
-Fights will take place in a neutral terrain. This does not necessarily mean a *featureless* terrain: assume that both characters will have a chance to use all of their skills to the fullest here, barring setting-specific abilities and anything that requires the presence of multiple enemies (but see below).
-Characters start the fight alone. They don't bring allies with them, like Kerrigan and the Zerg Swarm for instance. Summons are allowed though, provided they're brought once combat has started.
-Fighters retain their usual personalities. They won't fight to kill unless that's their MO, and won't spam their best attacks to win unless, again, that's how they act in their original media.
-Similarly, fighters are unaware of their opponents capabilities at the start of the fight unless their powers facilitate them information (like knowing all there is to know in the universe - this would include who the opponent is and what he can do, as well as weaknesses)
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Past Results:
GANON's Elemental Sun of Nothing managed to easily overcome Vriska's luckhax abilities. The variable spellcaster moves on to face the winner of today's match!. Votals: 17-9.

(2) Super Sonic
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From Archie Comics, Super Sonic is the empowered form of Sonic the Hedgehog, The Fastest Thing Alive. When in Super Sonic form, Sonic's color turns from blue to golden, and his speed, normally faster than sound, massively increases, as well as granting him the ability to fly. He also becomes nigh-invulnerable to damage, and powerful enough to annihilate an entire army of alien beings in a short timespan.

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(7) Majin Buu
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From Dragon Ball Z, Majin Buu is a being of mystical nature, who possesses complete control over his entire body, even if it is separated from himself, as well as super strength and speed. Buu can also absorb other beings and take their powers; even without doing this, Buu can easily mimic a fighting technique after seeing it only once. He can turn others into inanimate entities such as food or even clay. Buu can also regenerate from absurdly high levels of damage; only an attack that destroys every molecule of his being can defeat him permanently.

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09/23/11 4:26:00 PM
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Buu

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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 4:27:00 PM
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Really wish I couldn't shooped an image from the comics for Super Sonic, but after a spontaneous crash I just couldn't chance the match not going up for hours. Sorry everyone who nominated him. :-/

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Chrono1219
09/23/11 4:27:00 PM
#4:


Buu

I don't think Super Sonic's stamina can match Buu's.

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Pirateking2000
09/23/11 4:27:00 PM
#5:


Awww yeah rematch time

still going with Archie Super Sonic he's just a beast

plus his "aura" would most likely nerf buu

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GANON1025
09/23/11 4:28:00 PM
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So do I get to pick a power from Vriska or what???

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Durandi
09/23/11 4:30:00 PM
#7:


Buu Turns Sonic into chocolate.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 4:35:00 PM
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FFFFF- part of the writeup didn't show up, DAMMIT. Thanks for unintentionally pointing it out PK, it's appreciated. FIx'd now.

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Natwaf_akidna
09/23/11 4:35:00 PM
#9:


I thought it was agreed upon that Ganon doesn't get to MegaMan his opponents? Ahh well.

Leaning Buu really, but I'll wait for arguments.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 4:36:00 PM
#10:


But yeah, this match can be pretty interesting, because Gohan Buu is Buu's top form and that one still has the 'good' side of Buu trapped within, doesn't it? If so, the match is going to turn into a double team ASAP.

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Pirateking2000
09/23/11 4:37:00 PM
#11:


Thats if we are allowing Buu to even start up with the Z fighters in him (which he really shouldn't but meh)

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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 4:37:00 PM
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From: GANON1025 | #006
So do I get to pick a power from Vriska or what???


No picks, sorry GANON. Don't want to open the cross-bracket can of worms. :-/

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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 4:38:00 PM
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From: Pirateking2000 | #011
Thats if we are allowing Buu to even start up with the Z fighters in him (which he really shouldn't but meh)


So you're saying that Buu should start as basic Majin Buu? I don't buy it. Once he absorbs someone that's permanent unless you take the Z Warriors out. No reason we shouldn't give him his Super Buu form, as it's his peak of power.

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Pirateking2000
09/23/11 4:39:00 PM
#14:


oh no you mention gohan buu and I was thinking "wait he absorbed gohan?"

not a DBZ expert didn't mean it like that XD

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Natwaf_akidna
09/23/11 4:40:00 PM
#15:


Wait, double teamed how?

Yeah, Gohan got absorbed shortly after Buu lost power when Trunks and Goten stopped being SSJ 3.

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GANON1025
09/23/11 4:40:00 PM
#16:


uh huh, right....

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Pirateking2000
09/23/11 4:41:00 PM
#17:


^ I think by double teamed he means

Super Sonic aura releases Fat Buu

Fat Buu and Archie Super Sonic VS Buu

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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 4:42:00 PM
#18:


From: Pirateking2000 | #017
^ I think by double teamed he means

Super Sonic aura releases Fat Buu

Fat Buu and Archie Super Sonic VS Buu


This. Sonic has an evil-exorcising aura. It could kill Buu outright or bring forth his good side, either or.

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SemiFinal vs Belarus
09/23/11 4:43:00 PM
#19:


You can pick a power, anyway. It just won't be canon to this contest.

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Natwaf_akidna
09/23/11 4:43:00 PM
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Not sure if it works against him... but if it does, it's gonna be more like everybody that was inside Buu + Super Sonic VS Baby Buu.

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Orochimaru_Fan
09/23/11 4:44:00 PM
#21:


I can picture this being as one-sided (and annoying) as Gotenks vs Super Buu. Gotta go with Buu here.
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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 4:45:00 PM
#22:


From: Natwaf_akidna | #020
Not sure if it works against him... but if it does, it's gonna be more like everybody that was inside Buu + Super Sonic VS Baby Buu.


Possibly, but as I recall that was different from the good/evil split.

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Emporer_Kazbar
09/23/11 4:45:00 PM
#23:


OK, but Kid Buu (Buu's form when he is without Mr. Buu, as the good one is known) was shown to be vastly more powerful than Mr. Buu, and is the first and only being shown being capable of weakening said character.

Kid Buu's not as strong as Super Buu, but he's no pushover.

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Chrono1219
09/23/11 4:45:00 PM
#24:


From: Pirateking2000 | #057
^ I think by double teamed he means

Super Sonic aura releases Fat Buu

Fat Buu and Archie Super Sonic VS Buu


Isin;t Majin Buu the first form? as in the fat one? Anyways someone has to confirm which buu it is.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 4:46:00 PM
#25:


From: Orochimaru_Fan | #021
I can picture this being as one-sided (and annoying) as Gotenks vs Super Buu. Gotta go with Buu here.


In other words, Sonic wins because he never runs out of the transformation? How does this vote make any sense?

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Natwaf_akidna
09/23/11 4:46:00 PM
#26:


Plus, he's nuts enough to blow up the planet ASAP.

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Pirateking2000
09/23/11 4:47:00 PM
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That won't kill Super Sonic though

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Natwaf_akidna
09/23/11 4:48:00 PM
#28:


He can fight in space?

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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 4:49:00 PM
#29:


From: Natwaf_akidna | #028
He can fight in space?


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Pirateking2000
09/23/11 4:49:00 PM
#30:


^ uhh yeah even Game Super Sonic can fight in space

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StealThisSheen
09/23/11 4:51:00 PM
#31:


Natwaf_akidna posted...
He can fight in space?

The SA2 boss fight literally takes place in space.



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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 4:52:00 PM
#32:


From: StealThisSheen | #031
Natwaf_akidna posted...
He can fight in space?

The SA2 boss fight literally takes place in space.


And The Doomsday in S3&K.

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junk_funk
09/23/11 4:53:00 PM
#33:


Buu can also regenerate from absurdly high levels of damage; only an attack that destroys every molecule of his being can defeat him permanently.

Sonic can't stop that.

Buu

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StealThisSheen
09/23/11 4:53:00 PM
#34:


And game Super Sonic is like, weakest form.



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Pirateking2000
09/23/11 4:53:00 PM
#35:


and thats just going with Game Super Sonic

Archie Super Sonic is WAY more broken

If I remember right Archie Super Sonic was going up against Master Mogul (who was a reality warper in that form / crushing planets casually etc)

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Pirateking2000
09/23/11 4:56:00 PM
#36:


Master Mogul info

http://archiesonic.wikia.com/wiki/Mammoth_Mogul

yeah I think Archie Super Sonic could take buu

plus couldn't Buu be incapacitated as well (since people were using that reason for last match)

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Emporer_Kazbar
09/23/11 4:57:00 PM
#37:


By the way, I think we should all be clear on our Buu forms here, and why it matters which one we're using.

This is Mr. Buu AND the first Majin Buu. The first Majin Buu is stronger than Mr. Buu, and Mr. Buu is a nice guy who will only protect his friends.

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This is Pure Evil Buu, who Mr. Buu spit out to become a good guy. This one is stronger than Mr. Buu, but weaker than the first Majin Buu.

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This is Super Buu, who is Pure Evil Buu after consuming Mr. Buu. He is stronger than all of the previous three.

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This is Buutenks, Super Buu who has absorbed Piccolo and SSJ3 Gotenks. He is MUCH more powerful than the previous Buus.

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This Buuhan, Super Buu with Piccolo, Kid Trunks, Goten and Ultimate Gohan absorbed. He is the most powerful villain in the history of DBZ, bar none.

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This is Kid Buu. He is Buu's basic form. He is stronger than Mr. Buu, Pure Evil Buu, and (maybe) the first Majin Buu, but weaker than the rest.

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Now, remember everybody, even if it is Buuhan we're using, Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo were all incapacitated after being released from Buu, and assuming this fight goes relatively quickly, they're not going to be any help.

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Shadowmoon30
09/23/11 4:58:00 PM
#38:


Archie Super Sonic Buu let along most of the cast of DBZ do not really stand a chance against Archie comics Super Sonic he is a true beast. In just fighting with Hyper Knuckles the power of their punches against each other was enough to destroy the whole zone/world. Not to mention that Super Sonic is also a planet buster in his own right, when he was evil he was about to destroy two moons with his power but was forced to miss.

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StealThisSheen
09/23/11 4:59:00 PM
#39:


I think I gotta vote for Super Sonic. He was able to defeat Master Mogul, which... Sure, he had help, but Master Mogul is broken to the point where he could beat Buu with a snap of his fingers.



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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 5:01:00 PM
#41:


The Buu that starts this show is indeed Buuhan. This might not last given Sonic's aura, mind, but that is his opening form.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/23/11 5:02:00 PM
#42:


From: Ed Bellis | #040
You're confusing stories. The only time Super Sonic fought Master Mogul was when he was also with Hyper Knuckles and Turbo Tails, and Mogul was only defeated then due to a bunch of divine intervention and deus ex machina. When Master Mogul makes a second appearance, he's a ton more powerful due to an imbalance in the Chaos Force - this is the time he's able to crush entire universes with his hands - and Super Sonic never fights him.

Doomsday Zone never happened in the comic, but he did fight the Biolizard briefly in the SA2 adaptation as Super Sonic, so he can breathe in space.

Problem is, it doesn't matter. Nothing Super Sonic can do is going to make a dent in Buu at all. Buu requires an attack powerful enough to destroy him down to the molecular level - when Buu himself blows up Earth, he's able to regenerate from that pretty quickly. Super Sonic attacks the same way regular Sonic does, via spindashes and melee strikes and such. We have no speed feats for Super Sonic other than "faster than regular Sonic," who himself has very minimal and inconsistent speed feats. SS's "positive aura" doesn't mean a thing if he can't land a decent blow on Buu.

Buu takes it easily.


If it causes Buu to split however, it does mean something. I'd totally take Mr. Buu + Super Sonic over Evil Buu myself.

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StealThisSheen
09/23/11 5:03:00 PM
#43:


Actually, since Bellis brought it up, I may be confusing storylines as well/not remembering correctly, since it has been awhile,



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Pirateking2000
09/23/11 5:04:00 PM
#45:


So another possible scenario could be

Sonic aura releases ALL the Z fighters + Fat Buu VS Buu (if it lasts long enough for the incapacitation wears off for the Z fighters)

that would sure be a stomp lmao. Also (don't know this) doesn't sonic's aura also heal? If it does that could help as well.

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FL81
09/23/11 5:07:00 PM
#46:


Majin Buu is pretty broken.

He's killed casual planet busters with ease, launched an attack directed at every human on Earth, regenerated after being blown to bits, and for one of his fights, opened with destroying the planet (Kid Buu).

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Emporer_Kazbar
09/23/11 5:08:00 PM
#47:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #042
If it causes Buu to split however, it does mean something. I'd totally take Mr. Buu + Super Sonic over Evil Buu myself.


Remember that Mr. Buu will be little more than a distraction here. I mean, that might be enough for Sonic to do his work, but Mr. Buu is not good here for little more than a couple distracting blows and a big, pink punching bag.

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Shadowmoon30
09/23/11 5:09:00 PM
#48:


Also for some Super Sonic feats, external image moves fast enough to cause time to stop for him.

external image Causing a universe/zone to explode due to fighting with Hyper Knuckles.

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Now wheres most of these pictures show normal base Sonic it should be known that Super Sonic would be many many times faster as well as more powerful then base Sonic.

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Emporer_Kazbar
09/23/11 5:11:00 PM
#50:


Oh, also remember this about Mr. Buu and Kid Buu.

Mr. Buu, even after being released by Goku and Vegeta, was still stuck inside Kid Buu until Kid Buu himself spit him out. So Mr. Buu shouldn't just be popping out like nothing happened.

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