Board 8 > I feel as though games usually have disappointing final bosses.

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LinkMarioSamus 09/22/11 4:51:00 AM #53:	Just to ask, is a "sucky final boss" supposed to be the norm for modern action games? I've heard that Uncharted 2 and Mass Effect 2 suffer from this problem, and I know that Resident Evil 4 does. -- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:367054] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Just to ask, is a "sucky final boss" supposed to be the norm for modern action games? I've heard that Uncharted 2 and Mass Effect 2 suffer from this problem, and I know that Resident Evil 4 does. -- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
demonfang178 09/22/11 5:41:00 AM #54:	Hits: Super Mario World Super Mario 64 Super Mario Galaxy PAPER MARIO (Man, I love this fight so much, didn't think a fight with Bowser could be so epic) Yoshi's Island Bowser's Inside Story Super Mario RPG Meh. To add to the disappointing side: Sonic Colors (both versions) All of Sonic's handhelds except maybe Advance 3 and Battle Demon's Souls (way to disappoint by not mentioning this, B8) Crash Bandicoot 2 FF X-2 MvsC3 Mega Man 2 <cite>demonfang178 posted [p:367055] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Hits:Super Mario WorldSuper Mario 64Super Mario GalaxyPAPER MARIO (Man, I love this fight so much, didn't think a fight with Bowser could be so epic)Yoshi's IslandBowser's Inside StorySuper Mario RPG Meh.To add to the disappointing side:Sonic Colors (both versions)All of Sonic's handhelds except maybe Advance 3 and BattleDemon's Souls (way to disappoint by not mentioning this, B8)Crash Bandicoot 2FF X-2MvsC3Mega Man 2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kirby Driver Reborn 09/22/11 5:55:00 AM #55:	disappointing final bosses: FFX (final, not 2nd to last.) FFXIII (mehhhh it's 2nd form is so stupid) Metroid (the original) Metal Gear (the original) cool ones that weren't mentioned.. Gunstar Heroes Metroid Prime Suikoden 2 -- Fly Eagles Fly, On the Road to Victory! http://last.fm/user/xdevilbunny \|\| http://rateyourmusic.com/~VelociBrad <cite>Kirby Driver Reborn posted [p:367056] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> disappointing final bosses:FFX (final, not 2nd to last.)FFXIII (mehhhh it's 2nd form is so stupid)Metroid (the original)Metal Gear (the original)cool ones that weren't mentioned..Gunstar HeroesMetroid PrimeSuikoden 2 -- Fly Eagles Fly, On the Road to Victory!http://last.fm/user/xdevilbunny \|\| http://rateyourmusic.com/~VelociBrad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Ps2_Devil 09/22/11 6:26:00 AM #56:	Does Shadow of the Colossus count here? Obviously on a difficulty scale it doesn't deliver but definitely on an emotional level and it remains to this day one of the most memorable final sequences in a game to me. -- http://gamercards.exophase.com/4831.png http://i51.tinypic.com/2zpi5w4.png <-- How I look as per Clogged_Artery (Thanks!) <cite>The_Ps2_Devil posted [p:367057] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Does Shadow of the Colossus count here? Obviously on a difficulty scale it doesn't deliver but definitely on an emotional level and it remains to this day one of the most memorable final sequences in a game to me. -- http://gamercards.exophase.com/4831.pnghttp://i51.tinypic.com/2zpi5w4.png <-- How I look as per Clogged_Artery (Thanks!) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kotetsu534 09/22/11 6:53:00 AM #57:	Devil May Cry 3's final boss is the best I've played. It nails the atmosphere and the setting, the opponent is a natural one for the game to end on, the fight is a culmination of everything good about the game, it's tough without being cheap, it's incredibly fast and frenetic. It's also is a great final boss in an action game, which I think are much rarer than great final bosses in RPGs (I think the only RPG I'm a big fan that doesn't have a great final fight is FFIX, whereas there's not many action games I like that I'd say have one). The only challenge I can think of to DMC3 is MGS3. I'd say it wins on setting/atmosphere - both visuals and sound are superb, and the scenario is more than worthwhile - but while it's a solid fight, it's not as special - too formulaic. Bosses in platformers I often find to be weird. Not necessarily bad, but just strange. The enemy will inevitably have an incredible volley of attacks to throw out in order, followed by it waiting for you to hit it! -- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) <cite>Kotetsu534 posted [p:367058] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Devil May Cry 3's final boss is the best I've played. It nails the atmosphere and the setting, the opponent is a natural one for the game to end on, the fight is a culmination of everything good about the game, it's tough without being cheap, it's incredibly fast and frenetic. It's also is a great final boss in an action game, which I think are much rarer than great final bosses in RPGs (I think the only RPG I'm a big fan that doesn't have a great final fight is FFIX, whereas there's not many action games I like that I'd say have one). The only challenge I can think of to DMC3 is MGS3. I'd say it wins on setting/atmosphere - both visuals and sound are superb, and the scenario is more than worthwhile - but while it's a solid fight, it's not as special - too formulaic.Bosses in platformers I often find to be weird. Not necessarily bad, but just strange. The enemy will inevitably have an incredible volley of attacks to throw out in order, followed by it waiting for you to hit it! -- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ.(Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cybat 09/22/11 6:58:00 AM #58:	Sonic 2, 3&K, and Adventure 2 all have pretty great final bosses. edit: also, Phoenix Wright games <_< -- Everyone has a right to sarcasm. It's like murder, except legal. - MYC <cite>Cybat posted [p:367059] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Sonic 2, 3&K, and Adventure 2 all have pretty great final bosses.edit: also, Phoenix Wright games <_< -- Everyone has a right to sarcasm. It's like murder, except legal. - MYC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dauntless Hunter 09/22/11 7:04:00 AM #59:	*demonfang178 posted...* Mega Man 2 Can't agree with that. If you haven't been spoiled, both story and gameplay wise, it's actually a great final boss, and a template for what a Mega Man final boss should be. -- Black Turtle spilled my diet soda! <cite>Dauntless Hunter posted [p:367060] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> demonfang178 posted...Mega Man 2Can't agree with that. If you haven't been spoiled, both story and gameplay wise, it's actually a great final boss, and a template for what a Mega Man final boss should be. -- Black Turtle spilled my diet soda! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 09/22/11 7:15:00 AM #60:	MM2's final boss is terrible. It punishes you too much for actually finding the way to beat it, which is annoying as hell, and once you KNOW how to beat it you romp through it because it telegraphs its patterns a ton. SPOILERS FOR MM2 This is assuming we're talking about the Wily hologram of course. If I forgot something after it sorry. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:367061] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> MM2's final boss is terrible. It punishes you too much for actually finding the way to beat it, which is annoying as hell, and once you KNOW how to beat it you romp through it because it telegraphs its patterns a ton.SPOILERS FOR MM2This is assuming we're talking about the Wily hologram of course. If I forgot something after it sorry. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 09/22/11 7:21:00 AM #61:	*foolmor0n posted...* FFX has one of the best ending sequences ever. It has the very challenging and satisfying REAL final boss, I actually don't think that boss is all that well-designed. In that...people who explore the world map and do the bonus extras before the boss tend to find the boss a complete joke, and people who don't level often get stuck on him. This is a combination of... Regeneration (dealing more damage than he regens can be a problem for low-level parties) Knockback (you waste 50% of a turn. Problem is, if the boss is twice as fast as you then he'll get his next turn before you get your turn that he delayed, and then he can delay your turn again. Again, only really an issue for lower-level slow parties). Petrify and Shatter (once petrified a character can be permanently removed from a battle by being attacked a second time. Normally you'll have lots of extra time to de-petrify them, but if your party is slow the timing can be very tight). Tidus' Talk Mechanics (you can delay the boss from acting for a few turns...which a high-damage party can use to blitz the boss, but to a low damage party, two turns is a drop in the bucket). Ideally, the boss should have used tricks that were more level-independent. Gravity moves, status moves other than petrify, hasting itself instead of using knockback, or just a knockback that knocked back a fixed amount of CT rather than 50% of your recharge speed. As-is, there's a sweetspot where it's an excellent fight, and then a lot of cases where it's overly easy or a serious wall (at least for a first-time player). -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:367062] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> foolmor0n posted...FFX has one of the best ending sequences ever.It has the very challenging and satisfying REAL final boss, I actually don't think that boss is all that well-designed. In that...people who explore the world map and do the bonus extras before the boss tend to find the boss a complete joke, and people who don't level often get stuck on him.This is a combination of...Regeneration (dealing more damage than he regens can be a problem for low-level parties)Knockback (you waste 50% of a turn. Problem is, if the boss is twice as fast as you then he'll get his next turn before you get your turn that he delayed, and then he can delay your turn again. Again, only really an issue for lower-level slow parties).Petrify and Shatter (once petrified a character can be permanently removed from a battle by being attacked a second time. Normally you'll have lots of extra time to de-petrify them, but if your party is slow the timing can be very tight).Tidus' Talk Mechanics (you can delay the boss from acting for a few turns...which a high-damage party can use to blitz the boss, but to a low damage party, two turns is a drop in the bucket).Ideally, the boss should have used tricks that were more level-independent. Gravity moves, status moves other than petrify, hasting itself instead of using knockback, or just a knockback that knocked back a fixed amount of CT rather than 50% of your recharge speed.As-is, there's a sweetspot where it's an excellent fight, and then a lot of cases where it's overly easy or a serious wall (at least for a first-time player). -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aecioo 09/22/11 8:14:00 AM #62:	Immediately thought of God of War 3 spoilers They rushed the game to get it out by deadline, so the final battle with Zeus was one of the last things they did... and you can tell. Sad too, because the planned Gaia battle followed by a better Zeus battle would have been incredible. -- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ <cite>Aecioo posted [p:367063] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Immediately thought of God of War 3spoilersThey rushed the game to get it out by deadline, so the final battle with Zeus was one of the last things they did... and you can tell. Sad too, because the planned Gaia battle followed by a better Zeus battle would have been incredible. -- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gifhttp://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 09/22/11 8:32:00 AM #63:	Earthbound, Mother 3, and DMC3 have the best final bosses in gaming, I think. -- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:367064] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Earthbound, Mother 3, and DMC3 have the best final bosses in gaming, I think. -- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Silvergun 09/22/11 8:33:00 AM #64:	Radiant Silvergun's final boss actually fits well with the context of the game. And, since the game is now available on XBox Live, for those who have XBox 360's (I don't, but at least I have the Saturn version), the game is a great buy at 1200 points($15 I believe), as opposed to paying $100+ for the Saturn version. -- Warning, the self-destruct system has been activated, all personnel should evacuate immediately, 5 minutes to detonation. <cite>Dark Silvergun posted [p:367065] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Radiant Silvergun's final boss actually fits well with the context of the game.And, since the game is now available on XBox Live, for those who have XBox 360's (I don't, but at least I have the Saturn version), the game is a great buy at 1200 points($15 I believe), as opposed to paying $100+ for the Saturn version. -- Warning, the self-destruct system has been activated, all personnel should evacuate immediately, 5 minutes to detonation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 09/22/11 9:17:00 AM #65:	*Panthera posted...* The number of final bosses that really reach "good" status in the FF series is...Exdeath and Kefka. Maybe <FFXIII spoilers>, but that's a bit of a stretch. It's not a series where the final battles tend to feel very awesome to me. I have to disagree horribly with XIII. I thought the ending was a total Deus Ex Machina after the fight with, er, the next-to-last boss. <cite>azuarc posted [p:367066] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Panthera posted...The number of final bosses that really reach "good" status in the FF series is...Exdeath and Kefka. Maybe <FFXIII spoilers>, but that's a bit of a stretch. It's not a series where the final battles tend to feel very awesome to me.I have to disagree horribly with XIII. I thought the ending was a total Deus Ex Machina after the fight with, er, the next-to-last boss. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 09/22/11 9:40:00 AM #66:	Disappointed that it took that long for MGS to come up, and no one even mentioned MGS4? What the hell. Of course MGS3 had the best final boss, but MGS4 had a pretty god damn awesome final boss as well. MGS1 and 2 did as well, but less so. Other than that, I more or less agree that final bosses usually aren't all that good, but it's understandable. They're the last hurdle to tackle before the end, and unless the game is all about the gameplay, you're really just wanting to finish the game at that point, so it sucks to have a really tough boss that takes several tries to beat. But then it's also sad to have a boss that isn't really great in any way. There has to be a good balance that is VERY difficult to achieve. Yet Kojima somehow managed it with four games, so maybe game devs should take some lessons from him. -- *~Halo* Give into the Night. http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/ShadowHalo/haloshadow1.gif <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:367067] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Disappointed that it took that long for MGS to come up, and no one even mentioned MGS4? What the hell. Of course MGS3 had the best final boss, but MGS4 had a pretty god damn awesome final boss as well. MGS1 and 2 did as well, but less so.Other than that, I more or less agree that final bosses usually aren't all that good, but it's understandable. They're the last hurdle to tackle before the end, and unless the game is all about the gameplay, you're really just wanting to finish the game at that point, so it sucks to have a really tough boss that takes several tries to beat. But then it's also sad to have a boss that isn't really great in any way. There has to be a good balance that is VERY difficult to achieve. Yet Kojima somehow managed it with four games, so maybe game devs should take some lessons from him. -- ~Halo Give into the Night.http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/ShadowHalo/haloshadow1.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
demonfang178 09/22/11 11:13:00 AM #67:	*Dauntless Hunter posted...* demonfang178 posted... Mega Man 2 Can't agree with that. If you haven't been spoiled, both story and gameplay wise, it's actually a great final boss, and a template for what a Mega Man final boss should be. Eh. Story-wise, I guess it's a cool would be "plot twist," but gameplay-wise it's definitely one of the weaker and more boring bosses of the game, maybe even the series (then again, I hate a good deal of MM2's bosses in general). The only thing new I'd say it brings to the table is that all future final-final bosses will be weak to the weapon you liked the least. <cite>demonfang178 posted [p:367068] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Dauntless Hunter posted...demonfang178 posted...Mega Man 2Can't agree with that. If you haven't been spoiled, both story and gameplay wise, it's actually a great final boss, and a template for what a Mega Man final boss should be.Eh. Story-wise, I guess it's a cool would be "plot twist," but gameplay-wise it's definitely one of the weaker and more boring bosses of the game, maybe even the series (then again, I hate a good deal of MM2's bosses in general). The only thing new I'd say it brings to the table is that all future final-final bosses will be weak to the weapon you liked the least. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YetAnothrShadow 09/22/11 11:32:00 AM #68:	The Mario RPG games tend to have satisfying last bosses. At least the ones I've played all the way through ( Paper Mario, Paper Mario 2, and M&L3) *GuessMyUserName posted...* If you wanna hear bad final boss fights, no final boss fight is worse than Borderlands Slight Spoilers This is so true. By the time you get to him you're so overpowered that you annihilate him in seconds. Than he doesn't even drop ANYTHING worth while. General Knoxx was a better final boss battle than him. Better reward too. -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual players. http://i52.tinypic.com/2llhfrc.jpg <cite>YetAnothrShadow posted [p:367069] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> The Mario RPG games tend to have satisfying last bosses.At least the ones I've played all the way through ( Paper Mario, Paper Mario 2, and M&L3)GuessMyUserName posted...If you wanna hear bad final boss fights, no final boss fight is worse than BorderlandsSlight SpoilersThis is so true. By the time you get to him you're so overpowered that you annihilate him in seconds. Than he doesn't even drop ANYTHING worth while. General Knoxx was a better final boss battle than him. Better reward too. -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual players.http://i52.tinypic.com/2llhfrc.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psycho_Kenshin 09/22/11 12:00:00 PM #7:	I love Deus Ex: Human Revolution, but yeah there's another game right there with a lackluster final boss. Games with great final bosses, well any MGS game. God of War games, etc. -- One Piece: Pirates with style! -= Metal Gear Solid: Tactical Espionage Action =- <cite>Psycho_Kenshin posted [p:367008] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> I love Deus Ex: Human Revolution, but yeah there's another game right there with a lackluster final boss.Games with great final bosses, well any MGS game. God of War games, etc. -- One Piece: Pirates with style!-= Metal Gear Solid: Tactical Espionage Action =- </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 09/22/11 12:00:00 PM #8:	Never had a problem with most final bosses. Twilight Princess comes to mind immediately though. And Devil May Cry 3 is final boss done right. <cite>pjbasis posted [p:367009] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Never had a problem with most final bosses.Twilight Princess comes to mind immediately though.And Devil May Cry 3 is final boss done right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo8889 09/22/11 12:11:00 PM #69:	KH series has some good final bosses. <cite>Ryo8889 posted [p:367070] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> KH series has some good final bosses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 09/22/11 12:29:00 PM #70:	Oh forgot about KHII. Talk about a great fight for a disappointing game. <cite>pjbasis posted [p:367071] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Oh forgot about KHII.Talk about a great fight for a disappointing game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/22/11 12:29:00 PM #71:	More like a great fight for a great game -- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:367072] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> More like a great fight for a great game -- "So cold. I am always by your side.""There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Liquid Wind 09/22/11 12:41:00 PM #73:	did someone really just say FFX's end boss was good? L O L would have been infinitely better if jecht was the last boss <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:367074] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> did someone really just say FFX's end boss was good?LOLwould have been infinitely better if jecht was the last boss </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 09/22/11 12:43:00 PM #74:	From: Liquid Wind \| #073 did someone really just say FFX's end boss was good? L O L would have been infinitely better if jecht was the last boss He pretty much was. And I wouldn't trade the music from the Aeon and Yevon 'battles' for the world, anyway, since I don't like "Otherworld" much. -- "Mr. Paris, I assume you've had a great deal of experience being rejected by women." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:367075] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> From: Liquid Wind \| #073did someone really just say FFX's end boss was good?LOLwould have been infinitely better if jecht was the last bossHe pretty much was. And I wouldn't trade the music from the Aeon and Yevon 'battles' for the world, anyway, since I don't like "Otherworld" much. -- "Mr. Paris, I assume you've had a great deal of experience being rejected by women." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/22/11 12:44:00 PM #75:	BFA is the last boss. Saying Yu Yevon is the last boss is like saying that sequence in FFVII where all you have to do is Omnislash Sephiroth is the last boss. -- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:367076] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> BFA is the last boss. Saying Yu Yevon is the last boss is like saying that sequence in FFVII where all you have to do is Omnislash Sephiroth is the last boss. -- "So cold. I am always by your side.""There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 09/22/11 12:46:00 PM #76:	From: Ryo8889 \| #069 KH series has some good final bosses. Oh crap yeah, forgot about Kingdom Hearts. The second one especially, and Birth by Sleep had pretty great final bosses... From: LeonhartFour \| #071 More like a great fight for a great game Hells yeah. -- *~Halo* You're not the brightest. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/907/bandfinisher.jpg <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:367077] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> From: Ryo8889 \| #069KH series has some good final bosses.Oh crap yeah, forgot about Kingdom Hearts. The second one especially, and Birth by Sleep had pretty great final bosses...From: LeonhartFour \| #071More like a great fight for a great gameHells yeah. -- ~Halo You're not the brightest.http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/907/bandfinisher.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff Zero 09/22/11 12:56:00 PM #78:	From: UltimaterializerX \| #077 BFA was terrible. I would have rather fought regular Jecht, Dissidia version where he backhands all your stuff and impales Tidus on a fist for whining too much. Can't really argue with that wish. -- "Mr. Paris, I assume you've had a great deal of experience being rejected by women." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:367079] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> From: UltimaterializerX \| #077BFA was terrible. I would have rather fought regular Jecht, Dissidia version where he backhands all your stuff and impales Tidus on a fist for whining too much.Can't really argue with that wish. -- "Mr. Paris, I assume you've had a great deal of experience being rejected by women." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 09/22/11 1:02:00 PM #79:	BFA is the last boss. Saying Yu Yevon is the last boss is like saying that sequence in FFVII where all you have to do is Omnislash Sephiroth is the last boss. yu yevon is a pushover but I'm still counting it because it's fairly time consuming if you have all the optional aeons, bad game design. <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:367080] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> BFA is the last boss. Saying Yu Yevon is the last boss is like saying that sequence in FFVII where all you have to do is Omnislash Sephiroth is the last boss.yu yevon is a pushover but I'm still counting it because it's fairly time consuming if you have all the optional aeons, bad game design. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/22/11 1:02:00 PM #80:	"Fairly time consuming" doesn't make it the last boss, unfortunately. -- http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfiu09.gif http://i54.tinypic.com/10729w2.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:367081] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> "Fairly time consuming" doesn't make it the last boss, unfortunately. -- http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfiu09.gifhttp://i54.tinypic.com/10729w2.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 09/22/11 1:03:00 PM #81:	From: Liquid Wind \| #079 BFA is the last boss. Saying Yu Yevon is the last boss is like saying that sequence in FFVII where all you have to do is Omnislash Sephiroth is the last boss. yu yevon is a pushover but I'm still counting it because it's fairly time consuming if you have all the optional aeons, bad game design. It could have lasted even longer and I'd have been fine. That song is THE BOMB. -- "Mr. Paris, I assume you've had a great deal of experience being rejected by women." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:367082] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> From: Liquid Wind \| #079BFA is the last boss. Saying Yu Yevon is the last boss is like saying that sequence in FFVII where all you have to do is Omnislash Sephiroth is the last boss.yu yevon is a pushover but I'm still counting it because it's fairly time consuming if you have all the optional aeons, bad game design.It could have lasted even longer and I'd have been fine. That song is THE BOMB. -- "Mr. Paris, I assume you've had a great deal of experience being rejected by women." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QuinticWarrior 09/22/11 4:26:00 PM #82:	Decisive Battle is the best FFX track. -- HanoftheNekos, Quint Player, Popular at Bars <cite>QuinticWarrior posted [p:367083] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Decisive Battle is the best FFX track. -- HanoftheNekos, Quint Player, Popular at Bars </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 09/22/11 7:05:00 PM #83:	From: The_Ps2_Devil \| #056 Does Shadow of the Colossus count here? Obviously on a difficulty scale it doesn't deliver but definitely on an emotional level and it remains to this day one of the most memorable final sequences in a game to me. It definitely counts, and is another one that does it right. A boss fight doesn't have to be at all difficult if it's a good experience, and that one most certainly is. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. <cite>Panthera posted [p:367084] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> From: The_Ps2_Devil \| #056Does Shadow of the Colossus count here? Obviously on a difficulty scale it doesn't deliver but definitely on an emotional level and it remains to this day one of the most memorable final sequences in a game to me.It definitely counts, and is another one that does it right. A boss fight doesn't have to be at all difficult if it's a good experience, and that one most certainly is. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/22/11 7:08:00 PM #84:	I enjoyed Xenosaga 1's final boss! -- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:367085] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> I enjoyed Xenosaga 1's final boss! -- ~Peaf~ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Crispy 09/22/11 7:28:00 PM #85:	Yggdra Union probably has the worst final boss fight ever. Ugh. -- The only certain death in the universe is Mother Hitton's Littul Kittons. Not changing this line until I beat Seven Heroes (2/24/07) <cite>Mr Crispy posted [p:367086] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Yggdra Union probably has the worst final boss fight ever.Ugh. -- The only certain death in the universe is Mother Hitton's Littul Kittons.Not changing this line until I beat Seven Heroes (2/24/07) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 09/22/11 7:28:00 PM #86:	Demons Souls final boss.... =/ -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:367087] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Demons Souls final boss.... =/ -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 09/22/11 11:59:00 PM #87:	[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] <cite>Anagram posted [p:367088] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chrono1219 09/23/11 2:54:00 AM #88:	In recent memory KH2 probably had one of the best final boss fights I can remember. Persona 3 also has a great one (albeit, kinda more luck based than skilled based). However, the worst final boss I've encountered? Grandia 2. -- Chrono1219 <cite>Chrono1219 posted [p:367089] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> In recent memory KH2 probably had one of the best final boss fights I can remember. Persona 3 also has a great one (albeit, kinda more luck based than skilled based).However, the worst final boss I've encountered? Grandia 2. -- Chrono1219 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 09/23/11 6:07:00 AM #89:	^ Eyes of Valmar ftw? -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:367090] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> ^ Eyes of Valmar ftw? -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 09/23/11 6:11:00 AM #90:	Fairly time consuming" doesn't make it the last boss, unfortunately. neither does the fact that it's a total push over not make it the last boss. <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:367091] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Fairly time consuming" doesn't make it the last boss, unfortunately.neither does the fact that it's a total push over not make it the last boss. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pram_the_Oracle 09/23/11 6:41:00 AM #91:	Wild arms 2 had an awesome final boss. Though it probably comes off as corny to some people. -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge! NEXT TIME! <cite>Pram_the_Oracle posted [p:367092] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Wild arms 2 had an awesome final boss.Though it probably comes off as corny to some people. -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge!NEXT TIME! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoElfboy 09/23/11 8:01:00 AM #92:	neither does the fact that it's a total push over not make it the last boss. The fact that you physically can't lose (short of intentionally petrifying your own party members, which I'm not going to count) does make it not the last boss, though! -- The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.com An unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion <cite>NeoElfboy posted [p:367093] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> neither does the fact that it's a total push over not make it the last boss.The fact that you physically can't lose (short of intentionally petrifying your own party members, which I'm not going to count) does make it not the last boss, though! -- The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.comAn unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/23/11 10:22:00 AM #93:	From: NeoElfboy \| #092 The fact that you physically can't lose (short of intentionally petrifying your own party members, which I'm not going to count) does make it not the last boss, though! Bingo. -- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:367094] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> From: NeoElfboy \| #092The fact that you physically can't lose (short of intentionally petrifying your own party members, which I'm not going to count) does make it not the last boss, though!Bingo. -- "Stay with me until the end. Please.""Not until the end. Always." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Janus5000 09/23/11 10:54:00 AM #94:	*Cybat posted...* edit: also, Phoenix Wright games <_< I would only say JFA has a really good 'final boss'. PW1's is cool, but too similar to 1-4's boss to be that amazing. PW3's comes right after the climax of 3-5 and felt too much like a resolution as opposed to an actual great battle. AJ's you barely do anything during. AAI's has the same problem as PW3's in that it comes after the high point of the case, plus it never ends. -- Fight like dragons, have no fear, swords are made of STEEEEEEEEL~ <cite>Janus5000 posted [p:367095] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Cybat posted...edit: also, Phoenix Wright games <_<I would only say JFA has a really good 'final boss'.PW1's is cool, but too similar to 1-4's boss to be that amazing.PW3's comes right after the climax of 3-5 and felt too much like a resolution as opposed to an actual great battle.AJ's you barely do anything during.AAI's has the same problem as PW3's in that it comes after the high point of the case, plus it never ends. -- Fight like dragons, have no fear, swords are made of STEEEEEEEEL~ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/23/11 10:56:00 AM #95:	Pfffft, 1-4 is the real final boss of PW1 anyway! 1-5 is like bonus DLC or something! -- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:367096] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Pfffft, 1-4 is the real final boss of PW1 anyway! 1-5 is like bonus DLC or something! -- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 09/23/11 10:59:00 AM #96:	I third Persona 3 because my god, that took forever and yet it was so worth it also metroid Prime games in general even though I havent beaten Emperor Ing yet -- FC 1849 0634 8041 Boring sig is boring <cite>htaeD posted [p:367097] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> I third Persona 3because my god, that took forever and yet it was so worth italso metroid Prime games in generaleven though I havent beaten Emperor Ing yet -- FC 1849 0634 8041Boring sig is boring </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpeedYoshi 09/23/11 11:07:00 AM #97:	Yeah, you really can't count the aeons in FFX as the last boss, they're not even a boss. -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs <cite>SpeedYoshi posted [p:367098] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, you really can't count the aeons in FFX as the last boss, they're not even a boss. -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoElfboy 09/23/11 11:07:00 AM #98:	Pfffft, 1-4 is the real final boss of PW1 anyway! 1-5 is like bonus DLC or something! Yeah, definitely seconding this. PW3 has the weird situation where I would regard the "final boss" as... the one who isn't actually final. It does make the -actual- final rather weak, though. Come to think of it, DMC3 feels kinda similar, which is one of the reasons I don't really get hype for that one in this thread, but I assume that has more to do with gameplay (which I can see though still don't agree with; I thought the fight was fairly simple). -- The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.com An unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion <cite>NeoElfboy posted [p:367099] in I feel as ... [t:60401098]...</cite> <quote> Pfffft, 1-4 is the real final boss of PW1 anyway! 1-5 is like bonus DLC or something!Yeah, definitely seconding this.PW3 has the weird situation where I would regard the "final boss" as... the one who isn't actually final. It does make the -actual- final rather weak, though.Come to think of it, DMC3 feels kinda similar, which is one of the reasons I don't really get hype for that one in this thread, but I assume that has more to do with gameplay (which I can see though still don't agree with; I thought the fight was fairly simple). -- The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.comAn unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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