Board 8 > GameSpot Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 2

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KamikazePotato
09/16/11 12:49:00 PM
#51:


lol gamespot

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Red Shifter
09/16/11 12:57:00 PM
#52:


Frog got out-proxied? I call shenanigans.

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junk_funk
09/16/11 12:58:00 PM
#53:


This is dumb. They may be the bigger site but they have no clue how to run a contest.

Makes me happy to have people like CJ and SBAllen.

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muddersmilk
09/16/11 1:00:00 PM
#54:


Gamespot actually did something about the cheating?!

O_O

And then I look at the posts under it and people are upset at them interfering. And a couple of people are even pointing out how the other contests were fine. lol Gamespot

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FateStayAlbion
09/16/11 1:10:00 PM
#55:


Votes are up for new round

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LeonhartFour
09/16/11 1:13:00 PM
#56:


Poor Clank.

WCC vs. Epona, what a terrible match

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HaRRicH
09/16/11 1:15:00 PM
#57:


While I'm no fan of 4chan or their early interference each round, it's nice of them to let me see Epona break 70% on WCC.

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KingButz
09/16/11 1:18:00 PM
#58:


Aw yeah Daxter > Alyx

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Kotetsu534
09/16/11 1:21:00 PM
#59:


The only matches I can see being close this round are WCC/Epona and Otacon/Vivi. Pretty weak R3.

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KamikazePotato
09/16/11 1:22:00 PM
#60:


woo Vivi

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foxhead84
09/16/11 1:53:00 PM
#61:


Are your round 2 result correct???

My round 2 result indicate that I have won 9 matches and lost 5 giving me 18 pts for the round (9+5=14 and there was 16 matches in R2)

But I have 10 match right... and I did not have Either Cortana or Moogle... I had Athena, so the problem isn't that... I'm I the only one with that problem?
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Ultimaphazon
09/16/11 1:56:00 PM
#62:


I haven't even looked at my bracket since the round ended. My bracket is shot anyway. I had Yoshi in the finals, for one.

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FateStayAlbion
09/16/11 2:00:00 PM
#63:


The main match I'm keeping an eye on is Dogmeat/Luigi. Thats the one 4chan has decided to focus on since Launchpad and Einstein essentially have bye rounds. They want Luigi out since he's the only real competitor left who can beat Launchpad/Einstein.

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TheCodeisBosco
09/16/11 2:20:00 PM
#64:


I'm shocked as hell that they actually did something about Moogle. Not bad, GS.

I'm also still shocked at how strong Daxter seems to be on this site. I know Alyx is gonna win in the end, but still!

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redrocket
09/16/11 2:48:00 PM
#65:


Otacon going all the way.

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LeonhartFour
09/16/11 2:50:00 PM
#66:


Yeah, not sure why I picked Vivi > Otacon here. Oh well, getting Launchpad and Einstein is all that really matters at this point.

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redrocket
09/16/11 2:57:00 PM
#67:


Otacon or Alyx will win it all.

I'm serious.

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TheCodeisBosco
09/16/11 3:12:00 PM
#68:


I still think it's Dogmeat that wins it all, but that's just me.

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LeonhartFour
09/16/11 3:12:00 PM
#69:


Dogmeat probably has the best chance of winning without 4chan interference, assuming no other outside rallies materialize.

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Advokaiser
09/16/11 5:05:00 PM
#70:


Round 1 Bracket results:

Won: 28/32
Lost: 4/32
Points: 28
Leaderboard: Don't really remember, but I think I was in the high 170s.

Round 2 Bracket results:

Won: 10/16
Lost: 6/16
Points: 20
Leaderboard: 844th position.

I'm officially rallying for a Launchpad > Einstein final now.

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AxemRedRanger
09/16/11 5:23:00 PM
#71:


Looking like Epona has a legit chance against WCC.
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Advokaiser
09/16/11 5:30:00 PM
#72:


...just as it seems like Dogmeat has a legit chance against Luigi!

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HaRRicH
09/16/11 5:44:00 PM
#73:


Either Epona's pulling through, or WCC's a bust on a site where Gordon/GLaDOS/Dr. Breen have done well.

At the least, Epona looks to confirm being the strongest LoZ-character there. Epona directly broke 60% on Navi and currently has 59% on WCC compared to Midna's 40% on Alyx; Alyx/WCC may not be that even, but they were both championship-contenders and that's still a big gap. Epona being stronger than Navi/Midna were also supported by the vote-in. These coupled with her having the most LoZ-games shouldn't be surprising: Epona's proven she has potential.


Epona VS Mewtwo on GameFAQs, who you got?

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FateStayAlbion
09/16/11 5:56:00 PM
#74:


I'm not even sure Epona wins. 4chan was heavily rallying against Cube early on due to being annoyed by the Portal jokes, and Cube has really made a comeback. Went from like 25% to 41.5% now. Epona is still fav but I don't think its a lock.

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Advokaiser
09/16/11 5:58:00 PM
#75:


This is where I wish I knew the characters' strengths on GameFAQs. I would have 50% more to talk about in the Contest Stats & Discussion topics.

I'm flipping a coin and siding with Mewtwo because he's awesome.

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LeonhartFour
09/16/11 5:59:00 PM
#76:


I don't want to pick Epona in any sort of debatable match with a proven character.

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HaRRicH
09/16/11 6:32:00 PM
#77:


Epona gained ~100 votes in the past hour, and we're now five hours into it. She could still certainly lose, but 4chan's influence has stretched thinner now and Alyx would still need to be reasonably stronger than WCC for Midna to compete with Epona there. If Epona can beat Midna there, she can reasonably beat Midna here too -- that'd be a fine starting position for a character we've never seen here before.


Advokaiser posted...
This is where I wish I knew the characters' strengths on GameFAQs. I would have 50% more to talk about in the Contest Stats & Discussion topics.

I'm flipping a coin and siding with Mewtwo because he's awesome.


Here are some relevant polls for your consideration:

Midna/Mewtwo in a four-way from 2008:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3287

Midna/Mewtwo in some polls from the last Character Battle:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3692
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3740
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3754

No polls to really gauge Epona by aside from the GameSpot-contest, which should always be taken with a grain of salt.

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FateStayAlbion
09/16/11 6:45:00 PM
#78:


No matter what though, I think its time for Epona to get into a contest just so we can put to rest her strength. If she has strength then great... if not oh well, but at least we'll know. She's a better Zelda candidate than Dark Link, at least.

Talking about animal companions, I think that Gamespot is showing us another one that should be given a chance here, too!

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HaRRicH
09/16/11 9:53:00 PM
#79:


Vault Boy and FO3 recently did well, so I'm not against Dogmeat getting a chance.

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charmander6000
09/16/11 10:07:00 PM
#80:


How often is the name Dogmeat mentioned in the game? He could be benefitting from GameSpot listing what games characters are from.

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AxemRedRanger
09/16/11 10:09:00 PM
#81:


Epona had extended her lead and her percentage is decreasing pretty slowly now. If she wins here, her next opponent is Otacon.

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charmander6000
09/16/11 10:10:00 PM
#82:


The LAW applies on GameSpot too.

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LeonhartFour
09/16/11 10:15:00 PM
#83:


From: AxemRedRanger | #081
If she wins here, her next opponent is Otacon.


oh ho ho NRT rematch

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WarThaNemesis2
09/16/11 11:26:00 PM
#84:


The longer Epona stays around 58% while other 4chan-powered characters fall off, the more this is looking like Epona is legit. That said, anyone who didn't want to see Epona in the contests here on the basis of her being weak was insane. Anything that played a significant role in Ocarina of Time is going to have legit strength, just like how a certain black-haired Cloud can have strength, except Epona has popular sources other than Ocarina of Time to draw from.

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Emporer_Kazbar
09/16/11 11:33:00 PM
#85:


"Otacon is featured in: Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker"

Um...no he isn't, Gamespot...

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-LusterSoldier-
09/16/11 11:56:00 PM
#86:


I think GameSpot's "________ is featured in:" section always lists the most recent game in the series.

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Kotetsu534
09/17/11 4:35:00 AM
#87:


So Vivi vs. Cube, who ya got?

Yup, Epona's in the Final Four.

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HaRRicH
09/17/11 5:11:00 AM
#88:


Why I refused to go fanboy-mode for Epona, I don't know...WCC's gonna cost a lot of points!

Heck, at this rate, Navi might beat WCC.

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Not_Wylvane
09/17/11 5:51:00 AM
#89:


I wouldn't mind Dogmeat winning. We've already had Valve and Blizzard with wins, why not Black Isle/Bethesda?

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AxemRedRanger
09/17/11 9:35:00 AM
#90:


...So Epona is stronger than Cube on gamestop. Valve is generally better over there than here while at this site, well, the LAW. Cube got 35% on Luigi last character battle, so based on the above Epona could theoretically manage 40%, indirectly at least. Which would put her on par with Amaterasu. Or at least pre-MvC3 Amaterasu.
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LeonhartFour
09/17/11 9:45:00 AM
#91:


Well, the Cube isn't even that strong here. The Boss got, what, 46-47% on it?

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FateStayAlbion
09/17/11 10:55:00 AM
#92:


Oh wow, Dogmeat is still holding on with about the same % he had last night. He might just do this!

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Advokaiser
09/17/11 11:18:00 AM
#93:


Wow, the first match (Talis vs. Dom) has 23000 votes already. With these kinds of vote totals, and considering there's just 2 days left for the rounds to end, I think we have enough to have a lock on most, if not all, of the current matches.

Epona, Dogmeat, Einstein, and Launchpad confirmed as the Final Four. Sweet.

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HaRRicH
09/17/11 12:54:00 PM
#94:


Heck, unless 4chan continues to rally for Dogmeat if/after it beats Luigi, Epona has a legit shot to reach the championship. She's safely beating WCC when Portal 2 released earlier this year, and -- while I trust Alyx is stronger here now than she was in 2006 -- WCC's still been stronger here than Alyx. Otacon still might surprise since CT-characters have done well enough, though I still hate to trust Square there any more than I have to; Cloud lost to Kratos while Sephiroth was badly 4chan'd, and no FF-character's impressed this contest other than Vivi edging out Diddy Kong (which we would have likely all taken if it wasn't for the vote-in).

In the off-chance she did reach the championship, it'd be fun to see if the site banded together behind her against Einstein/Launchpad to try defeating 4chan. That's an x-factor I won't bet on, but hey...with a final like that, all bets are off.


Whatever the case, unless Luigi can overcome 4chan's influence, Epona will be the last Nintendo character standing. What a contest.

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LeonhartFour
09/17/11 12:55:00 PM
#95:


From: HaRRicH | #094
while I trust Alyx is stronger here now than she was in 2006 -- WCC's still been stronger here than Alyx.


Doesn't matter.

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Red Shifter
09/17/11 12:57:00 PM
#96:


Oh, you get 2 votes on a match if you post it to your facebook.

They have to inflate their vote totals somehow, I guess.

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WarThaNemesis2
09/17/11 1:06:00 PM
#97:


Alyx being weaker than WCC here has more to do with Gordon being barely stronger than Peach whereas Gordon is comparable to Link on GameSpot. If it weren't for outside rallying I'd have taken Alyx as stronger than Cube in a GameSpot match without a second thought.

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Advokaiser
09/17/11 1:19:00 PM
#98:


While looking at my bracket I was just thinking about how Otacon was so surprisingly undiscussed in this contest, and when I was building my bracket before the contest started I had it losing to WCC, which was then my winner.

The point is, Otacon may be stronger than WCC and maybe also has a chance against Alyx.

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HaRRicH
09/17/11 1:29:00 PM
#99:


When trying to gauge what sort of challenge Alyx can give Epona, it's worth bringing up their GameFAQs-comparison with a grain of salt. Alyx was tripled by Lara Croft while WCC avoided the doubling to Luigi and once upset Mega Man. When you combine that with the results GameSpot's showing us like Epona currently getting 56.8% on WCC post-Portal 2 and Epona beating Navi worse than Alyx beat Midna (potential SFF, to be fair)...

...I mean, both roads lead to Alyx not being as safe as the contender-status we gave her suggests. Removing Luigi would be a big break for Alyx, but we can see now with Daxter getting 46.4% on her that she's vulnerable to other opponents too. It wouldn't be the first time a Valve-character needed help against a LoZ-character there, anyway.


Whatever the case, I just noticed Epona would have to beat Einstein in order to make that match happen...whoops. GameSpot's bar above the links to vote insinuates a different order than the bracket itself. Dammit GameSpot.

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FateStayAlbion
09/17/11 1:31:00 PM
#100:


HaRRicH posted...
In the off-chance she did reach the championship, it'd be fun to see if the site banded together behind her against Einstein/Launchpad to try defeating 4chan. That's an x-factor I won't bet on, but hey...with a final like that, all bets are off.


Whatever the case, unless Luigi can overcome 4chan's influence, Epona will be the last Nintendo character standing. What a contest.


Launchpad and Einstein are on different sides of the bracket. 4chan is making sure its a Launchpad/Einstein final.

Its kinda confusing since Gamespot used a weird kinda bracket so I didn't realize at first, but if you look at the paths, the top and bottom parts of the bracket face eachother final round, not left and right.

So most likely it'll be Launchpad vs Dogmeat, and Einstein vs Epona in the final four.

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