Board 8 > Whoa. People still think Lebron is the best player in the NBA?

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That is lunacy. He is the biggest choker in my lifetime in any sport. The fact that the guy pretty much single handedly cost the Heat a championship by himself is evidence enough. If you cant play under pressure (especially if you fall apart like lebron) you cant be considered the best around.

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and I dont think its all about rings (that helps, but it is really about having a consistent, complete game). I know the lebron > jordan argument is squashed, but I dont think anyone can make a legit claim lebron is the best in the league anymore either.

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The fact that the guy pretty much single handedly cost the Heat a championship by himself is evidence enough

oh dear god

also close your account

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From: ExThaNemesis | #006
oh dear god

what's wrong with that? can't you see the connection? andel believes that, because he supposedly chocked once, he's the biggest chocker in the history of everything.

makes sense to me.


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Name a bigger choker in the last 25 years

also, no thanks kids. you are welcome to close your though ;-)

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i'm gonna go with "close your account"

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given the fact he led the far superior team (talent wise) and literally fell apart in the final, yes, it was the biggest choke job ever. and dont forget lebron is known for choking in the playoffs before this past season. he has no 'heart', or whatever you would care to call the intangible clutch gene.

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Andel posted...
given the fact he led the far superior team (talent wise) and literally fell apart in the final, yes, it was the biggest choke job ever. and dont forget lebron is known for choking in the playoffs before this past season. he has no 'heart', or whatever you would care to call the intangible clutch gene.

wat

3 players and a bench full of airspace

a solid starting 5 and a sixth man, plus a bench full of capable players..

Quit listening to the media, 3 people can't do it. I dont care if it's MJ, Melo and Chris Paul, it just won't happen.

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Andel posted...
Name a bigger choker in the last 25 years

also, no thanks kids. you are welcome to close your though ;-)

Wow, it's like joyrock and MWC had a kid.

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From: Andel | #009
Name a bigger choker in the last 25 years

dennis rader

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you guys remember when lebron totally choked against the celtics?

how about the bulls?

lol good times

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no doubt the mavs played out of their minds, and dirk was bird esque (at least offensively), but can anyone deny that lebron fell apart? wade played well for most of the series and bosh played about like his regular season stats, but lebron under performed offensively and seemed scared to shoot or even drive. what excuse can you possibly make for james?

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I remember when lebron choked against the celtics...it was 2 years ago when he played for cleveland. he checked out in that series also....nice example bud.

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I remember when lebron choked against the celtics...it was 2 years ago when he played for cleveland. he checked out in that series also....nice example bud.

oh yeah, taking a bottom-of-the-barrel team to the playoffs, as true contenders, is totally "choking"

i love how much you totally understand sports

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It is choking when the team is favored to win...where do you think the mavs would stand without dirk? do you honestly deny lebron choked in the finals?

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It is choking when the team is favored to win...where do you think the mavs would stand without dirk? do you honestly deny lebron choked in the finals?

by this logic, every team who has *ever* been upset has choked.

orlando choked against atlanta

phoenix choked against memphis

etc. it's a stupid argument used only to unfairly demonize lebron. and you want to talk about "choked"?

dirk during the '06 finals.

LOL

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From: BoshStrikesBack | #023
by this logic, every team who has *ever* been upset has choked.

they would also be the biggest chokers ever, as you only need to choke once to be given that label.


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Derek Fisher has more rings than Amare, Melo, Chris Paul, Dirk, Lebron, Dwight Howard, D-Rose, COMBINED!!!!!!!!!

He's the best PG ever!!!!

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i hope you guys aren't getting ready to use this argument to say that robert horry is anything less than the best basketball player of all time

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BUT HE IS!

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thank god i was worried for a second

big shot bob ballin on everyone

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i hope you guys aren't getting ready to use this argument to say that robert horry is anything less than the best basketball player of all time

+1

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...and of those teams did they have a player widely considered the best in the league that completely checked out? look at lebrons numbers during critical playoff series' throughout his career...the fact that they lost to boston or the spurs or the mavs is not the issue, it is lebrons performance during these series. I will ask again, how do you justify his falling apart in all these series?

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my position is obviously pretty solid as you all seem to deflect the fact that he checks out on a regular basis in crucial series throughout his career....and no one denies dirk choked in the 06 series, but since you acknowledge that you obviously agree that lebron also choked? same principle, only lebron was a much bigger favorite to close the deal this season.

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why are people arguing with someone who is talking s*** about Lebron James?

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. He is the biggest choker in my lifetime in any sport.

no

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...and of those teams did they have a player widely considered the best in the league that completely checked out?

Guys, this might be the best argument of ALL TIME!

"Lebron can't be the best player in the NBA- he's such a choker! He lost during the finals, and he's the best player in the NBA!"

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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
why are people arguing with someone who is talking s*** about Lebron James?

I was going to refute the point two posts above this one, but then read this and thought "Yeah, this guy is right. People hate LeBron pretty much exclusively for the fact that he doesn't have a championship. No matter how well he performs annually, if he doesn't win everything he's going to be seen as a flop. There is no point in arguing."

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bosh, your reading comrehension skills (as well as simple logic) are laughable.

and when the guy performs well during the regular season (undeniably) but performs worse than bad when it actually matters, well, it speaks for itself. he is a choker.

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bosh, your reading comrehension skills (as well as simple logic) are laughable.

I can guarantee you that I am both smarter than you and have better reading "comrehension" skills than you do. I'm also probably more attractive. But keep on hating, son!

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that gave me a laugh....anytime someone resorts to personal insults over the internet it shows their obvious insecurities...and you have proven to have below average reading comprehension skills throughout this thread.

maybe when you are older than 16 you will realize most people are superior to you...because that is certainly the case kiddo.

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that gave me a laugh....anytime someone resorts to personal insults over the internet it shows their obvious insecurities...and you have proven to have below average reading comprehension skills throughout this thread.

maybe when you are older than 16 you will realize most people are superior to you...because that is certainly the case kiddo.

lol learn to take a joke. You decided to respond to my point with a personal attack (because "laughable" seems like a personal insult, wouldn't you say? How's that hypocrisy taste?) , so I responded with a non-sequitur of my own.

But wow, "most people are superior" to me? That hurts, man. That hurts deep.

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Andel posted...
bosh, your reading comrehension skills (as well as simple logic) are laughable.

and when the guy performs well during the regular season (undeniably) but performs worse than bad when it actually matters, well, it speaks for itself. he is a choker.

It actually mattered against the Celtics and Bulls, but we're just going to omit his performance entirely during those series' to assist your point, I guess. <_<

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Andel may be the worst troll I've seen in a while. How more transparent can you get? Don't bother replying to me either. Thanks. :)

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Not really a personal insult as your lack of reading comprehension skills have been self substantiated through this thread. While you refuse to respond to the actual initial argument you neuter your 'points'.

and yes, lebron has played well at times during the playoffs, but he negates that by choking when it really matters (he himself said that playoff wins are nothing without a championship and the season would be a failure). do you deny that he choked in the finals?

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Andel may be the worst troll I've seen in a while. How more transparent can you get? Don't bother replying to me either. Thanks. :)

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and if by 'troll' you mean 'user whose points you cant refute so you result to flaming' than you are correct sir. thank you

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He is the biggest choker in my lifetime in any sport.

How old are you? Six?

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I thought this was an MWC topic but seeing who it was instead didn't surprise me

Dude, why are you on the boards if you're only 6. That's against the ToU.

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you kids can keep trolling me in a sad attempt to jockey position...I find it hilarious. It is also funny that none of you can come up with a bigger choker.

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Oh man, LeBron has had a few bad series in his career and he's not as good as Michael Jordan, worst choker of the last 25 years

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