Board 8 > Amy Winehouse might be dead.

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Mr Lasastryke
07/23/11 1:48:00 PM
#201:


It's funny to see which people are making fools of themselves again and again.

She was? Whoops. Obviously I'm not much of a fan >_>

Curious to know about the countless other times I've made a fool out of myself, though.

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Mr Lasastryke
07/23/11 1:52:00 PM
#202:


What instrument did she play?

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nintendogirl1
07/23/11 1:53:00 PM
#203:


Janis Lyn Joplin (January 19, 1943 – October 4, 1970) was an American singer, songwriter, painter, dancer and music arranger. She rose to prominence in the late 1960s as the lead singer of Big Brother and the Holding Company and later as a solo artist with her backing groups, The Kozmic Blues Band and The Full Tilt Boogie Band. At the height of her career she was known as The Queen of Rock and Roll as well as The Queen of Psychedelic Soul. Rolling Stone magazine ranked Joplin number 46 on its list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time in 2004,[1] and number 28 on its 2008 list of 100 Greatest Singers of All Time.[2]

Wiki'd

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Punch_Sideiron
07/23/11 1:54:00 PM
#204:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
What instrument did she play?

She didn't play one.

From Wikipedia: [Joplin was] an American singer, songwriter, painter, dancer and music arranger
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Mr Lasastryke
07/23/11 1:56:00 PM
#205:


I'm aware Janis Joplin was an artist in the music industry. I said she wasn't a musician because she didn't play an instrument. I make a distinction between vocalists and musicians.

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Lopen
07/23/11 1:57:00 PM
#206:


From: Mr Lasastryke | #200
Doubtlessly there are some pretentious people out there who don't judge a picture for what it's worth, but this goes for the abstract art you like as much as Pollock's. I don't understand why you find it unfathomable that people genuinely enjoy Pollock's art, as opposed to people who like other abstract art.


Of course. The evidence for the few ones I like there is "I like it" though. Evidence for the other side can't be "you like it" because I'm not sure if you've been tainted by "them" even though I'd like to believe you haven't been!

There's also the fact that other abstract artists don't generally have work that looks like "something that could be generated with 10 plates of taco bell" as some dude so eloquently put it (paraphrased).

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Punch_Sideiron
07/23/11 1:58:00 PM
#207:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
I'm aware Janis Joplin was an artist in the music industry. I said she wasn't a musician because she didn't play an instrument. I make a distinction between vocalists and musicians.

As does most of the world, hence the Wikipedia entry never saying musician.
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VincentLauw
07/23/11 1:59:00 PM
#208:


From: Mr Lasastryke | #205
I'm aware Janis Joplin was an artist in the music industry. I said she wasn't a musician because she didn't play an instrument. I make a distinction between vocalists and musicians.


... I'm not sure if you're serious


first of all, she did play guitar and autoharp

second of all, vocalists are very much musicians. I don't see how you would ever make such a distinction. She also wrote her own songs, which makes her very much a musician at heart. I can see someone advocating that covering songs or not writing your own stuff doesn't make you a musician, but to say someone who sings and writes her own songs (as in, melodies too) is not a musician is ridiculous.

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VincentLauw
07/23/11 2:01:00 PM
#209:


A musician is a person who writes, performs, or makes music.


maybe you guys should buy a dictionary someday.

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Mr Lasastryke
07/23/11 2:02:00 PM
#210:


There's also the fact that other abstract artists don't generally have work that looks like "something that could be generated with 10 plates of taco bell" as some dude so eloquently put it (paraphrased).

That was yo.

And well, again, that's subjective. Perhaps I think the abstract art you like looks like something that could be generated with 10 plates of Taco Bell. Perhaps something like that actually looks highly pleasant to some people.

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Heroic Mass Carrier
07/23/11 2:02:00 PM
#211:


This topic is another failure of the sinking boat known as Gamefaqs. If I were a mod, I would close this topic immediately.

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Punch_Sideiron
07/23/11 2:03:00 PM
#212:


VincentLauw posted...
A musician is a person who writes, performs, or makes music.


maybe you guys should buy a dictionary someday.


A musician is someone who plays an instrument. Otherwise separate terms for producer, audio engineer, etc... wouldn't exist, because they all "make music."
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Heroic Mass Carrier
07/23/11 2:04:00 PM
#213:


^A musician isn't someone who plays an instrument.

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Punch_Sideiron
07/23/11 2:05:00 PM
#214:


Heroic Mass Carrier posted...
^A musician isn't someone who plays an instrument.

As a musician, yes, it is.
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WazzupGenius00
07/23/11 2:06:00 PM
#215:


From: Punch_Sideiron | #212
VincentLauw posted...
A musician is a person who writes, performs, or makes music.


maybe you guys should buy a dictionary someday.


A musician is someone who plays an instrument. Otherwise separate terms for producer, audio engineer, etc... wouldn't exist, because they all "make music."


so why do separate terms for floutist, pianist, guitarist, etc exist? They all "make music."

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VincentLauw
07/23/11 2:07:00 PM
#216:


From: Punch_Sideiron | #212
A musician is someone who plays an instrument.


so the singing voice isn't a musical instrument anymore now, huh?

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Punch_Sideiron
07/23/11 2:08:00 PM
#217:


WazzupGenius00 posted...

so why do separate terms for floutist, pianist, guitarist, etc exist? They all "make music."


For the same reason a sous-chef isn't just called a chef. They're subcategories.
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Punch_Sideiron
07/23/11 2:08:00 PM
#218:


VincentLauw posted...
From: Punch_Sideiron | #212
A musician is someone who plays an instrument.
so the singing voice isn't a musical instrument anymore now, huh?


No. It's a singing voice. Vocalists or singers sing. Musicians play instruments.
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VincentLauw
07/23/11 2:09:00 PM
#219:


Maybe Lasa and Punch_Sideiron should write a dictionary together

they make up their own definitions of words so

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ffmasterjose
07/23/11 2:09:00 PM
#220:


Holy crap

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Punch_Sideiron
07/23/11 2:11:00 PM
#221:


VincentLauw posted...
Maybe Lasa and Punch_Sideiron should write a dictionary together

they make up their own definitions of words so


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singer

Read it.

And with that, I am out of this topic.
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VincentLauw
07/23/11 2:13:00 PM
#222:


From: Punch_Sideiron | #221
VincentLauw posted...
Maybe Lasa and Punch_Sideiron should write a dictionary together

they make up their own definitions of words so


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singer

Read it.

And with that, I am out of this topic.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musical_instruments#Voice


we can play this game all day, but just know that you're wrong.

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Mr Lasastryke
07/23/11 2:13:00 PM
#223:


Maybe Lasa and Punch_Sideiron should write a dictionary together

they make up their own definitions of words so


Don't see why you're being so condescending.

As Punch said, countless people make a distinction between vocalists and musicians, so neither of us are making anything up. I happen to like using this distinction, so I use this definition - I don't even care whether or not it's the "dictionary definition."

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VincentLauw
07/23/11 2:18:00 PM
#224:


From: Mr Lasastryke | #223
As Punch said, countless people make a distinction between vocalists and musicians, so neither of us are making anything up. I happen to like using this distinction, so I use this definition - I don't even care whether or not it's the "dictionary definition."


If a thousand people said oranges were green, they still wouldn't be right.

A vocalist is a musician and that's that really. Don't see why anyone would advocate otherwise

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metaIslugg
07/23/11 2:19:00 PM
#225:


I remember when Mr. Michael Jackson died. The board was crazy that day, and there were still idiots, but for the most part the board was legitimely sad and really united. There was even a 500 Thriller topic.

This is just, uh, sure

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RevolverSaro
07/23/11 2:21:00 PM
#226:


Most unsurprising celebrity death ever.

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nintendogirl1
07/23/11 2:22:00 PM
#227:


Vocalists are musicians.

Perhaps the word you were looking for was instrumentalist?

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Mr Lasastryke
07/23/11 2:25:00 PM
#228:


Perhaps the word you were looking for was instrumentalist?

"Instrumentalist" and "musician" are the same to me.

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Rusry
07/23/11 2:27:00 PM
#229:


this topic is simply silly now.

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XxDarkCrueltyxX
07/23/11 2:28:00 PM
#230:


the distinction between winehouse and the '27' club is the goat factor. they are in the discussion (on a national and international level) she is not.
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Mr Lasastryke
07/23/11 2:31:00 PM
#231:


If a thousand people said oranges were green, they still wouldn't be right.

The definitions of words don't fall out of the sky, they're decided by consensus. If languages would evolve in such a way that everyone on Earth would refer to what we now call "orange" as "green," then orange will be green.

A vocalist is a musician and that's that really. Don't see why anyone would advocate otherwise

Because there is no consensus for the word "musician." There are several definitions. I'm not attacking your definition, don't see why you have such a problem with mine.

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FFDragon
07/23/11 2:59:00 PM
#232:


This is going to sound miserable, but I just made a $100 off of a six year old bet.

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Rusry
07/23/11 4:31:00 PM
#233:


i have to ask, for a 6 year old bet, what is the bet

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rammtay
07/23/11 4:32:00 PM
#234:


|Why did this get so many more posts than the norway topic?
Pathetic.
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FFDragon
07/23/11 4:33:00 PM
#235:


'How long will Amy Winehouse make it before she dies?'

I picked 27 just for the '27 club'. The other guesses were 22, 23, 25, and 50. >_>

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Viktor Vaughn
07/23/11 4:36:00 PM
#236:


From: rammtay | #234
|Why did this get so many more posts than the norway topic?
Pathetic.


because an argument started

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Coffee Ninja
07/23/11 4:38:00 PM
#237:


FFD cashing in.

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Mr Lasastryke
07/23/11 4:39:00 PM
#238:


because an argument started

An argument (I use the term loosely) also started in the Norway topic.

But this one had several, so yeah.

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FFDragon
07/23/11 4:44:00 PM
#239:


Though seriously, Amy Winehouse dying is a scary reminder that Keith Richards might in fact be a cyborg.

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DeathChicken
07/23/11 4:50:00 PM
#240:


Keith Richards and Jake the Snake Roberts will outlive us all

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beavis666x2
07/23/11 4:50:00 PM
#241:


From: FFDragon | #239
Though seriously, Amy Winehouse dying is a scary reminder that Keith Richards might in fact be a cyborg.


He's an immortal. Just don't let anyone decapitate him.

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Coffee Ninja
07/23/11 4:52:00 PM
#242:


So FFD, what would have happened is say she died at 26, did everyone just get their share of the pot back?

I assume of course this is a pot situation, where you all put money in and winner takes all as happens with your lifelong broski's.

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TheRock1525
07/23/11 4:54:00 PM
#243:


I never particularly cared for Winehouse, but its always sad to see someone's life cut short like this.

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FFDragon
07/23/11 5:00:00 PM
#244:


Yeah it was a 'everybody throws in $20' type of deal, so I guess I only made $80. No PIR rules either, you got the entire year you picked but that's it, otherwise I would have had the biggest advantage ever.

That's if they will actually pay up. Which they better, because my skills of a prophet are unmatched.

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Rusry
07/23/11 5:04:00 PM
#245:


FFDragon secretly is ProfitProphet.

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GuessMyUserName
07/23/11 5:06:00 PM
#246:


... nice job FFD >_>

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Paratroopa1
07/23/11 5:52:00 PM
#247:


By the way, as a music student myself, I just want to add that I happen to agree, 'musician' usually applies to someone who plays an musical instrument, an instrument being a tool created for doing something, so not the voice. I mean it's not something I would get really militant over, almost all really good vocalists at minimum dabble in some instrumentation anyway, but usually I only refer to someone as a musician if their primary talent is playing a musical instrument. I wouldn't refer to myself as a musician because I'm really only talented at composing and I feel like it would come across sounding like I can play a musical instrument well when I can't.

On the other hand, musician is the best catch-all term for whatever someone does when I don't feel like specifying.

Oh, and Amy Winehouse. She had more musical talent than a lot of people give her credit for I think. I think some of her songs were okay. That's all I have to say about that one really.
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07/24/11 7:41:00 AM
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Heroic Mass Carrier
07/24/11 7:41:00 AM
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Ulti, shut up!

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