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GaryOak151
07/01/11 11:25:00 PM
#251:


http://www.capgeek.com/cap_calculator/roster.php?id=3765

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Not Dave
07/02/11 8:03:00 AM
#252:


the Caps grabbed Ryan Potulny! argh

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Not Dave
07/02/11 8:14:00 AM
#253:


Richards to the Rangers!

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Not Dave
07/02/11 8:15:00 AM
#254:


9 years, $58.5

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Not Dave
07/02/11 8:22:00 AM
#255:


The Kings apparently came close, and Calgary offered 9 years, $65M.

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SmartMuffin
07/02/11 8:24:00 AM
#256:


As if anyone would want to go to Calgary!

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Not Dave
07/02/11 8:30:00 AM
#257:


Would have been neat if he went to Calgary, but really... yeah.

Really glad he didn't end up as a Leaf or Flyer! Rangers/Pens battle for the Atlantic hopefully.

...man, that's a tough division now. not counting the isles, of course.

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SmartMuffin
07/02/11 8:34:00 AM
#258:


So, looking over the NHL.com FA tracker, here's a few that caught my eye that haven't been discussed here yet:

Handzus goes from LA to San Jose, that's a tough one. He's not like a point-per-game superstar or anything, but a solid gritty player, and having him to to the big in-division rival is brutal.

Giguere goes from the Leafs to the Avs. Good news for Avs fans I assume? Obviously he's past his prime, but it's still an upgrade from Budaj right?

The Caps lose Marco Sturm to Vancouver. Another player who is solid when he's not injured.

Leino goes from Philly to Buffalo in the Flyers latest attempt to banish any and all skill from their lineup. He should help Buffalo a lot, I've always thought he's underrated.

Jeff Halpern goes from the Habs to the Caps, I guess that makes up for Sturm.

Andrew Brunette goes from Minnesota to Chicago =( That sucks, he was probably my SECOND favorite Wild player behind Burns, who is also gone.

Joel Ward goes from Nashville to Washington!!! That's cool. He seems like a great guy and if he can carry any of his playoff momentum through, that could be a big signing.

The Caps also got Roman Hamrlik from Montreal. Not so excited about that one, def past his prime.

Minnesota loses ANOTHER up and coming player, Cam Barker to Edmonton. They seem to be blowing it up too, although you can't really blame them...

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Not Dave
07/02/11 8:36:00 AM
#259:


Joel Ward is great. I've watched a lot of him since he went to UPEI and all, and he never gets lazy out there. Solid on the PK, great energy guy, and he has one of the best attitudes in hockey.

and now he can score goals, according to the playoffs!

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Not Dave
07/02/11 8:37:00 AM
#260:


actually, if Ward continues to get better, I could see him finishing in Selke contention. just needs to keep improving, which it looks like he's doing.

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Wedge Antilles
07/02/11 8:37:00 AM
#261:


lol Richards

Clearly doesn't care about winning the cup if he's going to the Rags.

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SmartMuffin
07/02/11 8:38:00 AM
#262:


Yeah, I think Richards is gonna be mediocre as a Ranger. That team has a way of making people suck. Also, I think finally THIS IS THE YEAR where the Isles get it together and make a step forward. Not necessarily "in the playoffs" forward but maybe like "still mathematically in contention in march" or something.

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Not Dave
07/02/11 8:39:00 AM
#263:


Rangers really, really, really need to re-sign both Dubinsky and Callahan.

They will be dropping the ball hard if they don't manage to do this.

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Not Dave
07/02/11 8:40:00 AM
#264:


Richards will finish top-ten in scoring again this year - he'll be fine as a Ranger.

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SmartMuffin
07/02/11 8:41:00 AM
#265:


Oh I'm sure he'll get his numbers. I just don't think he'll make the team significantly better. His numbers will be fine, but I'd suspect Callahan, Dubinsky, etc. to go down.

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Not Dave
07/02/11 8:42:00 AM
#266:


i think the big thing that Sather was looking at was the PPG playoff stats.

All they need is like, one or two goals a game in the playoffs the way Lundqvist performs.

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Not Dave
07/02/11 9:17:00 AM
#267:


slight correction on Richards: it's a $60M contract

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neoneaper
07/02/11 11:03:00 AM
#268:


big money for Leino, think he's worth it? The Flyers fans didn't think so

Boston/Montreal gm 7 on NHL right now, sadly we don't get the Boston announce crew! "GET UP" and "ONE DIVE TOO MANY" classix

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GaryOak151
07/02/11 11:07:00 AM
#269:


Leino is not worth 4.5 even a little. He got the easiest defensive assignments and had solid linemates. I would have been fine with him at even 3 mil for 4 years, but buffalo gave him 4.5 for 6. Lol that.

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Not Dave
07/02/11 11:24:00 AM
#270:


BizNasty2point0 Paul Bissonnette
After New York State Taxes, Brad Richards could buy every song on iTunes 5 times. Oh and 1.5 million Dances of the Lap.


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Not Dave
07/02/11 11:25:00 AM
#271:


Leafs offered more money, too.

Shows that Torts is an awesome coach to play for if you're not a whiner.

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Not Dave
07/02/11 11:56:00 AM
#272:


Leafs got Tim Connolly for two years. Good pickup. Damn.

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neoneaper
07/02/11 12:28:00 PM
#273:


Wow even the Canadian guys spent a couple minutes saying Halpern has to go to a quiet room after that hit. And they were even saying "GET UP YOU GOTTA GET UP" ha damn

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Not Dave
07/02/11 12:39:00 PM
#274:


#LAKings reach verbal agreement with left wing Simon Gagne on two-year contract. More details to come.

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RappinHobo9292
07/02/11 12:48:00 PM
#275:


Any word on where Emery is going yet?

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Not Dave
07/02/11 12:50:00 PM
#276:


nothing yet, no

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TheOceIot
07/02/11 2:39:00 PM
#277:


LA's top 6 is going to be one of the best in the league next year.

I hope Emery gets a contract, he played great for the Ducks.

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Not Dave
07/02/11 2:40:00 PM
#278:


yeah, LA and the Ducks (come back, Teemu) both have scary-good top sixes

i heard yesterday that this guy wants one more year:

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Heroic_CactObo
07/02/11 3:27:00 PM
#279:


From: Not Dave | #271
Leafs offered more money, too.

Shows that Torts is an awesome coach to play for if you're not a whiner.



this. on paper, most of the players he has to work with aren't big names but he demands a lot out of them and makes them work as a team very well. A++ coach
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voltch
07/02/11 4:05:00 PM
#280:


geez is free agency always this active?

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Not Dave
07/02/11 4:29:00 PM
#281:


whoa, Vokoun really wants to win

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Not Dave
07/02/11 4:29:00 PM
#282:


$1.5M when i bet he was offered at least five elsewhere. wow.

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the icon ownz all
07/02/11 4:30:00 PM
#283:


can you blame him? he's only had two playoff appearances, both losses in the first round.


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Not Dave
07/02/11 4:33:00 PM
#284:


not at all; i love seeing guys not being selfish.

can't wait to see him get the respect he deserves while playing on a winning team! i've always been a big vokoun fan.

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TheOceIot
07/02/11 4:34:00 PM
#285:


Wow, 1.5 for Vokoun is a STEAL. Incredible.

Teemu will be back as long as his knee feels okay.

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SmartMuffin
07/02/11 4:35:00 PM
#286:


Pfft, Vokoun is overrated and now he won't have the "but the team is bad!" excuse anymore.

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Not Dave
07/02/11 4:37:00 PM
#287:


vokoun rocks socks

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SmartMuffin
07/02/11 4:52:00 PM
#288:


I just really don't like the signing. It's a waste of money, and allows the team to, yet again, act like the whole problem was Goaltending when goaltending was like completely and totally NOT the problem at all.

Neuvirth and Holtby are both very skilled, young prospects who have shown a ton of promise. This is money that could have been MUCH better spent elsewhere.

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the icon ownz all
07/02/11 4:55:00 PM
#289:


Vokoun's cap hit is $1 million more than Holtby's. what are you going to do with $1 million?


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SmartMuffin
07/02/11 4:58:00 PM
#290:


Vokoun's cap hit is $1 million more than Holtby's. what are you going to do with $1 million?

Literally ANYTHING else. Vokoun isn't worth a million more than Holtby to this team. I'm honestly not sure I'd take him for free. It just totally sends the wrong message, to both the fans and the players.

I hope they trade or release Neuvirth. He deserves better than this.

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voltch
07/02/11 5:00:00 PM
#291:


Should you be the GM?

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the icon ownz all
07/02/11 5:03:00 PM
#292:


From: SmartMuffin | #290
It just totally sends the wrong message, to both the fans and the players.


"We traded away a young goaltender for much more than market value, and we're going to sign an established, hungry goaltender for very cheap to both give the goalie we believe in more chance to develop and our main roster a chance to win now" is totally the wrong message to send, I agree.

What move would you make that this $1 million will prevent the Caps from completing?


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SmartMuffin
07/02/11 5:08:00 PM
#293:


What move would you make that this $1 million will prevent the Caps from completing?

Well, I'm not very well into the whole FA thing. I'm not sure whose out there. But hell, if they get rid of Mike Green, that 1 mil becomes 6 mil. I assume you can sign a competent defenseman for that.

I was fine with trading Varlamov, because nobody needs three good goaltenders. Now.... they once again have three good goaltenders. If they're planning on dealing Holtby or Neuvirth that's fine I guess, but the whole thing is really unnecessary. Also, I don't think this increases their chance to "win now" at all. The playoff collapse was totally not on Neuvirth. They could have had Tim Thomas in net and they still would have lost that series.

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thenotdave
07/02/11 6:33:00 PM
#294:


Not if they had Joel Ward!

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SmartMuffin
07/02/11 6:57:00 PM
#295:


Yes. Skaters who play hard and don't quit are exactly what they needed to win that series. Vokoun is not that!

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GaryOak151
07/02/11 10:28:00 PM
#296:


I would take Vokoun for 3 years at 1.5 to give bob time to devolp while winning now without crippling the team. Instead we give Bryz a 9 year 5.6 contract

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ExThaNemesis
07/02/11 10:36:00 PM
#297:


From: GaryOak151 | #296
I would take Vokoun for 3 years at 1.5 to give bob time to devolp while winning now without crippling the team. Instead we give Bryz a 9 year 5.6 contract


And that's why you're the Flyers.

Also I'm pretty upset that the Caps now have a stud goaltender, and surprise surprise SmartMuffin is complaining about it.

Caps/Pens/Bruins/Sabres are my top four in the East!

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SmartMuffin
07/03/11 8:04:00 AM
#298:


I'm sorry, what exactly has Vokoun ever done to prove he's substantially better than Neuvirth? He's not a stud, he's "pretty good," and Neuvirth is also "pretty good." Only Vokoun is a lot older and more expensive (even if we got him at a discount).

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GaryOak151
07/03/11 9:51:00 AM
#299:


ITT: Muffin proves he knows absolutely nothing about hockey

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RPGLord95
07/03/11 9:54:00 AM
#300:


Leafs got Matthew Lombardi and Cody Franson from the Preds for Brett Lebda and Robert Slaney

So the Preds are blowing it all up to sign Weber

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