Poll of the Day > Teen girl admits that she lied about story which led to teacher being beheaded

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Far-Queue
03/09/21 6:40:27 PM
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This is awful.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/girl-lied-about-teacher-who-was-later-beheaded-lawyer-says/ar-BB1eq81p

A 13-year-old schoolgirl confessed that she lied about a French teacher who was beheaded after showing his class cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad, according to the girl's lawyer. Samuel Paty, a secondary school teacher in a town near Paris, was killed last October by a radical Chechen teenager after showing the cartoons to students during a civics class about free speech.

The unidentified girl told police that she lied about being in the class and falsely accused Paty of asking Muslim children to leave the class while he showed the pictures.

Her father, who has been charged in connection with the murder, posted several incendiary videos on Facebook based on his daughter's testimony which identified Paty.

"Everything in the investigation showed very early that she lied," the Paty family's lawyer Virginie Le Roy told RTL radio on Tuesday.

She said she was "skeptical" of the version of events recounted by the girl. On Monday, the girl's lawyer, Mbeko Tabula, told AFP, "She lied because she felt trapped in a spiral because her classmates had asked her to be a spokesperson."

Le Roy added, "A spokesperson of what? Of lies, of events that never happened? This explanation does not convince me and makes me rather angry because the facts are serious, they're tragic."

The killing of Paty shocked France and led to a fresh debate about freedom of speech, the integration of France's large Muslim population and the role of social media in whipping up hatred.
Paty was murdered in the town of Conflans-Sainte-Honorine by the 18-year-old Muslim extremist from Russia who had seen the online campaign against the teacher mounted by the schoolgirl's father and another man, a known Islamist preacher.

Both of the individuals behind the Facebook videos have been charged with "complicity in murder" over their postings and are awaiting trial in jail, while the schoolgirl has been charged with slander.

The killer was shot dead by police.

A draft new security law being discussed in the French parliament would make it a jailable offense to publish information online about a public servant knowing that doing so could cause them harm.

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Mead
03/09/21 6:42:49 PM
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So much sadness in this

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Zeus
03/09/21 6:51:45 PM
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That's all kinds of fucked up.

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dedbus
03/09/21 10:48:15 PM
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I'm kinda confused by this.

The teacher showed depictions of mohammad which apparently is a pretty standard beheading.

Not sure how asking those sensitive to leave or not or lying about wether he asked those sensitive to leave or not would change those sensitive to that's views towards depicting that.

Unless it's that she lied about him dismissing those sensitive to the subject when the depictions never happened at all.
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Cacciato
03/09/21 10:51:27 PM
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dedbus posted...
I'm kinda confused by this.

The teacher showed depictions of mohammad which apparently is a pretty standard beheading.

Not sure how asking those sensitive to leave or not or lying about wether he asked those sensitive to leave or not would change those sensitive to that's views towards depicting that.

Unless it's that she lied about him dismissing those sensitive to the subject when the depictions never happened at all.
Another big part of it is that she wasnt even in that class when it happened on account of being suspended for something else that I cant remember.
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Muscles
03/09/21 10:55:43 PM
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Why is the Muslim world so overly zealous? You don't see Christians beheading people for making fun of Jesus, let alone just showing a picture of him

Its sad that they refuse to join the modern world and keep carrying out this senseless violence

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botsrule
03/09/21 10:57:38 PM
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https://nationalpost.com/news/world/french-schoolgirl-admits-lying-about-teacher-samuel-paty-who-was-later-beheaded
But now, the girl has admitted that she was not in attendance during that class, and that she had made up the story to appease her father. She had actually been suspended for truancy the day before the class and wanted to divert his attention.
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ClarkDuke
03/09/21 11:02:56 PM
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Muscles posted...
Why is the Muslim world so overly zealous? You don't see Christians beheading people for making fun of Jesus, let alone just showing a picture of him

Its sad that they refuse to join the modern world and keep carrying out this senseless violence
muscles, we could explain it to you for the umpteenth time, but we can only try so many times before we grow weary of throwing wet bread at a wall and waiting for it to stick, ok?

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Cacciato
03/09/21 11:04:03 PM
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Muscles posted...
Why is the Muslim world so overly zealous? You don't see Christians beheading people for making fun of Jesus, let alone just showing a picture of him

well, Islam is a couple hundred years younger than Christianity. And if I had to make a bet, Id say a couple hundred years making fun of Jesus probably would get you fucked up.

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JigsawTDC
03/09/21 11:05:16 PM
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Muscles posted...
Why is the Muslim world so overly zealous? You don't see Christians beheading people for making fun of Jesus, let alone just showing a picture of him

Its sad that they refuse to join the modern world and keep carrying out this senseless violence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

Plenty of modern examples there, under the "Tactics of terrorists" section.

Edit: well, I guess none of these are specifically related to depictions of Jesus or anything, but I feel like the specific trigger for religious violence isn't really the point when it is present in both beliefs.

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ReturnOfFa
03/09/21 11:13:11 PM
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Yeah I read this all a day or two ago. The father that posted his 'angry rant' online initially keeps saying how he never wanted things to go this far. It's all pretty sad and disgusting, but I really hope people that are angry conservative Muslims who still don't wish death upon other people can learn from this.

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SirPikachu
03/09/21 11:41:06 PM
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Beheaded. For a rumor about drawing Muhammed. In France.

Diversity is our strength!

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Cacciato
03/10/21 12:02:15 AM
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SirPikachu posted...
Beheaded. For a rumor about drawing Muhammed. In France.

Diversity is our strength!
But thats not what happened either
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ReturnOfFa
03/10/21 12:27:38 AM
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SirPikachu posted...
Beheaded. For a rumor about drawing Muhammed. In France.

Diversity is our strength!
Diversity is cool :)

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wwinterj25
03/10/21 12:27:06 PM
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Yikes. This is indeed awful.

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Mead
03/10/21 12:38:03 PM
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SirPikachu posted...
Beheaded. For a rumor about drawing Muhammed. In France.

Diversity is our strength!

If extremist muslims were more diverse theyd be more tolerant of views that dont align with their own.

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Zikten
03/10/21 12:43:01 PM
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I remember this murder. Pretty fucked up.
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streamofthesky
03/10/21 12:49:09 PM
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She should be charged w/ complicity in murder, too. She's a minor so the punishment will probably still not be much, but it's ridiculous that she's still only charged w/ slander when she was the instigator of all of this.

Muscles posted...
Why is the Muslim world so overly zealous? You don't see Christians beheading people for making fun of Jesus, let alone just showing a picture of him

Its sad that they refuse to join the modern world and keep carrying out this senseless violence
Christians used to be equally or even more violent than these terrorists.
But they had this thing called The Enlightenment, where they eventually learned not to take the bible so damned seriously.
Islam needs that. I get it was formed like 600 years later so they're a bit behind on reformation, but even by that standard...it's about due by now.

Mind you, it never gets completely better. Still got abortion clinic bombers and such in the U.S. for example. But they're a very tiny fringe now, at least, and are swiftly dealt with.
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RoboXgp89
03/10/21 2:18:03 PM
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they were enlightened in the 70's then we decided to bomb them back to the stone age and to support their harshest regimes, they were more laid back after they conquered us

they threw a parade for the murderer btw

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Mead
03/10/21 2:19:47 PM
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Im against all parades

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Smarkil
03/10/21 4:17:50 PM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
they were enlightened in the 70's then we decided to bomb them back to the stone age and to support their harshest regimes, they were more laid back after they conquered us

they threw a parade for the murderer btw

yeah we bombed all of islam, i remember that day like it was yesterday

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