Poll of the Day > USA to possibly cut off relationship with China, seek financial compensation

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Ferarri619
05/14/20 1:33:57 PM
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for Coronavirus

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-on-china-we-could-cut-off-the-whole-relationship

"There are many things we could do," Trump told FOX Business' Maria Bartiromo Thursday. "We could cut off the whole relationship."
The Trump administration has been mulling avenues to possibly punish or seek financial compensation from China for what it sees as withholding information about the virus.

"Now, if you did, what would happen?," asked Trump. "Youd save $500 billion if you cut off the whole relationship."
However, Trump and his team used other tactics to demonstrate displeasure with China's actions. On Monday, the administration cut investment ties between U.S. federal retirement funds and Chinese equities.

As for China's response to inquiries about the spread of the coronavirus from the U.S., Trump told Maria Bartiromo: "We asked to go over and they said no. They didn't want our help. And I figured that was OK because they must know what they are doing. So it was either stupidity, incompetence or deliberate."

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Yellow
05/14/20 1:39:09 PM
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Ferarri619 posted...
We asked to go over and they said no. They didn't want our help.
Maybe because we typically topple the countries we "help"

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Mead
05/14/20 1:40:30 PM
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China you are grounded

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captpackrat
05/14/20 1:56:48 PM
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"There are many things we could do," Trump told FOX Business' Maria Bartiromo Thursday. "We could cut off the whole relationship."



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rjsilverthorn
05/14/20 1:58:09 PM
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Continuing to prove he has no idea what the hell he is doing.
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BlackScythe0
05/14/20 2:29:28 PM
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That is the dumbest thing trump has ever said.
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Joker_X_II
05/14/20 2:31:43 PM
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It's an obvious tactic.

Cut off trade with China.

Economy from both country tanks.

World War 3 starts so our country's can rely on a war economy and not trade.

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HornedLion
05/14/20 2:33:52 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
Continuing to prove he has no idea what the hell he is doing.

He doesnt have to say things that makes sense to people with even the most basic of critical thinking skills. All he has to do is say things that sound good to that dumb, dumb base of his. He holds on to them. He wins re-election. He wins re-election and the SOL, for crimes the southern district of Ny are investigating him for, runs out.

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papercup
05/14/20 2:55:17 PM
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Oh yeah cool cut off ties with the country that holds all the production. Nah that's a great idea.

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Zeus
05/14/20 2:58:49 PM
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captpackrat posted...

They literally could. A full embargo is within the US's powers, as it is within China's powers. And it's a tactic that the US has tried to leverage in the past. The fact that you pretend to be ignorant about it is silly, considering that we've had an embargo with Cuba within your lifetime.

Joker_X_II posted...
Economy from both country tanks.

America's economy could survive it -- since it was doing reasonably well even after multiple rounds of tariffs -- but China's economy would be much harder hit and it could have more serious ramifications for them.

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
05/14/20 3:24:58 PM
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What does Zeus think about this? Im sure its hilarious.

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streamofthesky
05/14/20 3:31:39 PM
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Incredibly stupid and he'd destroy our economy doing so.

But as usual w/ his China policy....his aims are understandable, the problem is he's a fucking moron and doesn't know how to enact those ideas.

Here's a simple one that would hurt China and help Americans: Levy a high tax/tariff on property/real estate purchases by foreign entities (or specifically China, but making it apply to all doesn't draw their immediate ire despite having basically the same effect).
Chinese buy up a shit ton of property in the U.S., both as a foothold to get their kids here so they can get into American universities, and as a form of "banking", since they don't trust their own currency or property markets (with good reason), so they see it as a safe was to store and preserve their wealth.
That in turn jacks up prices sky high, especially along the coastal cities, making homes unaffordable to actual U.S. citizens.

But Trump's both too dumb to consider that, and too corrupt to ever do it, since that'd deflate the real estate bubble his own business prospects rely on.
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Mead
05/14/20 3:35:04 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Incredibly stupid and he'd destroy our economy

Trump 2020 campaign slogan

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
05/14/20 3:36:45 PM
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Mead posted...
Trump 2020 campaign slogan
Lmao.

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rjsilverthorn
05/14/20 3:44:10 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
That is the dumbest thing trump has ever said.

I don't know, that is a pretty high bar.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
05/14/20 3:49:42 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
I don't know, that is a pretty high bar.
He has told people to drink/mainline bleach.

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Fou Lu
05/14/20 3:57:58 PM
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Considering all of Trump's merchandise, from his red hats to his campaign banners, are made in China, what the hell is he going to do?......

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Blightzkrieg
05/14/20 4:06:07 PM
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Trump would lose too much money for him to consider doing this.

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VeeVees
05/14/20 4:11:38 PM
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lololol, I'd love to see it. In fact, just declare war. I'd love to see WW3 in my life time. It'd be great.

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SunWuKung420
05/14/20 4:15:08 PM
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Less reliance on China is a good thing.

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Joker_X_II
05/14/20 4:27:53 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Less reliance on China is a good thing.

it is a good thing, except the issue is if the West decides to cut off the East cold, the current state of the economy tied into import/export will be damaging to what the West could maintain alone. There would be a period of depression and desperation until the country itself can find it's own feet again and be self-sustaining. War with China would be the jump start the country needs to be less reliant.

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sodium-chloride
05/14/20 4:29:43 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Less reliance on China is a good thing.

I agree but zero reliance on China is good for literally no one.
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streamofthesky
05/14/20 4:30:35 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Less reliance on China is a good thing.
Yes, but the way Trump's going about it is dumb
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FrozenBananas
05/14/20 4:32:25 PM
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He says stupid things like this all the time, hell change his mind tomorrow and claim he never said such a thing

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Muscles
05/14/20 4:40:33 PM
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America should arm rebellions against the Chinese government, it would topple their government

We might have to deal with multiple of factions of rebels and warlords in the future but thats the price of ruining other countries to advance your agenda

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adjl
05/14/20 4:44:25 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Less reliance on China is a good thing.

It is, but that has to be a gradual process. You can't just cut off all trade at once and expect everything to be fine.

Zeus posted...
They literally could. A full embargo is within the US's powers, as it is within China's powers. And it's a tactic that the US has tried to leverage in the past. The fact that you pretend to be ignorant about it is silly, considering that we've had an embargo with Cuba within your lifetime.

Did you really just compare embargoing Cuba with embargoing China? Really? Like, seriously?

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Collat
05/14/20 5:13:37 PM
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If China pays the US, they have to pay literally every country in the world.
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sodium-chloride
05/14/20 5:32:25 PM
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adjl posted...
Did you really just compare embargoing Cuba with embargoing China? Really? Like, seriously?

yeah he did lol
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ClarkDuke
05/14/20 6:24:31 PM
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Muscles posted...
America should arm rebellions against the Chinese government, it would topple their government

We might have to deal with multiple of factions of rebels and warlords in the future but thats the price of ruining other countries to advance your agenda
may god bless you and your simple minded, muscles, ok?

adjl posted...
Did you really just compare embargoing Cuba with embargoing China? Really? Like, seriously?
this is one of many reasons i blocked zeus, he's incapable of having a cogent debate, but you are a saint for trying, ok?

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Muscles
05/14/20 6:48:42 PM
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That wasn't subtle at all and yet you took it seriously

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Revelation34
05/14/20 6:49:41 PM
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Yellow posted...

Maybe because we typically topple the countries we "help"


That would be an improvement for China.
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SunWuKung420
05/14/20 6:50:45 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
That would be an improvement for China.

Iraq is doing so well.

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Revelation34
05/14/20 6:51:56 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...


Iraq is doing so well.


Do they suppress massive amounts of information and eat dogs and cats in Iraq?
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Kyuubi4269
05/14/20 6:58:27 PM
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Fou Lu posted...
Considering all of Trump's merchandise, from his red hats to his campaign banners, are made in China, what the hell is he going to do?......

Get it from Taiwan.

Collat posted...
If China pays the US, they have to pay literally every country in the world.

Yeah, Germany and UK are doing it, but obvs US is asking for the largest amount.

The thing with Trump is that he can threaten moves that are murder suicide and countries have to take it seriously because he doesn't see the threat to himself. He can act like he's a master of the bluff by just being ignorant.
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Averia
05/14/20 7:07:13 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Do they suppress massive amounts of information and eat dogs and cats in Iraq?

They managed to make Iraqians regret Saddam Hussein with a lower life quality, almost daily car bombing and other terorist attacks, economy not any better and for some even less freedom (new corrupt government and religious law has taken root).

And all that for the low price of 500 000 deaths.

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VeeVees
05/14/20 7:17:56 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Get it from Taiwan.
Where do you think taiwanese people do their productions?

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xjayguyx
05/14/20 7:21:35 PM
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I'm all for cutting China off. If every 1st world country cut off from China that would be a big hurt on the CCP. Needs to be done.. the CCP is pure evil.
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GameLord113
05/14/20 7:25:01 PM
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Muscles posted...
America should arm rebellions against the Chinese government, it would topple their government

We might have to deal with multiple of factions of rebels and warlords in the future but thats the price of ruining other countries to advance your agenda
Ah yes, lets give some rebels and warlords access to nuclear and biological weapons and control of one of the most important economies of the world.
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Mead
05/14/20 7:51:20 PM
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We could drop snakes on their cities

It wouldnt be illegal be its nature

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adjl
05/14/20 8:02:22 PM
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Mead posted...
We could drop snakes on their cities

It wouldnt be illegal be its nature

That would require us to put snakes on planes, though, and we know that wouldn't end well.

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AnnoyedCops
05/14/20 8:03:34 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4t6zNZ-b0A

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wolfy42
05/14/20 8:06:21 PM
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Mead posted...
We could drop snakes on their cities

It wouldnt be illegal be its nature


I mean...to drop snakes on them, those snakes...they would have to be on the mother f'in planes man, the mother f'in planes!!! Aren't you tired of that already?

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SunWuKung420
05/14/20 8:31:54 PM
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adjl posted...
That would require us to put snakes on planes, though, and we know that wouldn't end well.

For China!

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VeeVees
05/14/20 9:57:39 PM
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Mead posted...
We could drop snakes on their cities

It wouldnt be illegal be its nature
yum

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Kyuubi4269
05/14/20 10:03:15 PM
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VeeVees posted...

Where do you think taiwanese people do their productions?

Depends if you ask China or not.
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VeeVees
05/14/20 10:11:18 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Depends if you ask China or not.
Doesn't matter, taiwanese people put their factories in mainland china.

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Kyuubi4269
05/14/20 10:44:41 PM
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VeeVees posted...

Doesn't matter, taiwanese people put their factories in mainland china.

Not all of it.
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VeeVees
05/14/20 10:54:14 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Not all of it.
Of course not, just most of it. Whatever is left can't even produce enough for taiwan, much less america.

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