Board 8 > [VGMC] d19: The Azure Arbitrator vs Resurrections, Light of Nibel vs ENDYMION

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azuarc
04/06/18 10:20:09 PM
#1:


No poll because I feel off and was hoping someone else would post the topic for me. As it is, I'm already 20 minutes late.

Links:
Bracket - http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=469506
Contest info - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lzzbpDP2whgvOTN2XHETfWg79IyPs01jdwIQu_L2C7k/
Discussion and results thread - https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/76419785
Main bracket playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLW9O9mntH1RFBXCwz0vAKZg8V0rnrKHsE
Side bracket playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLW9O9mntH1RFI-vkdyFa8-bXzbFLMLl1X

Rules:
- Listen to both of the songs. Links have conveniently been provided for both songs. Even if Song A is your favorite of all-time and Song B is from a series you hate... Listen. To. Both. (If I have suspicions your vote is not based on a fair and impartial preference, it will be disqualified.)
- Obvious contest rules apply (no alts, one vote per person, no rallying, etc.).
- Please make your voting options clear, rather than burying them in text.
- Each set of matches lasts 24 hours, even if the new one isnt up by then.
- Always vote on the versions of the song provided, not versions from different sources.
- If you know ahead of time that you're not going to be around and you want to vote in advance, post your choices in the discussion/bracket topic.
- Please do NOT post tallies/score updates in the middle of the match, as this has a tendency to directly influence matches.
- You don't have to vote in all the matches, but it'd be cool if you did!


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Match #1:

The Legend of Heroes: Ao No Kiseki - The Azure Arbitrator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8CmfRgxvVQ" data-time="


Celeste - Resurrections
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rwAvUvvQzQ" data-time="


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Match #2:

Ori and the Blind Forest - Light of Nibel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN_LvY97Rco" data-time="


DanceDanceRevolution A - ENDYMION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYJXWwKFabA" data-time="


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Side bracket:

SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS - Preserved Valkyria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnFtifoRG80" data-time="


Baldr Heart - Innocence and Emptiness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TnnPq4AxPU" data-time="


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Easy vote form:
The Azure Arbitrator / Resurrections
Light of Nibel / ENDYMION
Preserved Valkyria / Innocence and Emptiness
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Mac Arrowny
04/06/18 11:02:07 PM
#2:


The Azure Arbitrator - I like Resurrections very much! The end thing is not so great, but I guess that's what happens when they just take all the songs from the level and mush them together into one <_<. OTOH, AA is one of my favorites in the contest and I was always disappointed it never got enough support to get in before.

Light of Nibel - Something about the progression of LoN actually kinda reminds me of Resurrections. It's good stuff. Endymion's fun too. What a good day!

Preserved Valkyria - who's the cheater who nommed a retired song for the side bracket? I&E's first two minutes are terrible, but despite liking PV very much, I'd probably vote for the song anyway if they didn't exist. The rest of the track is excellent.
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Sceptilesolar
04/06/18 11:05:54 PM
#3:


The Azure Arbitrator
Light of Nibel
Preserved Valkyria

Hm, well, Azure Arbitrator is not quite what I was expecting. I don't really love it, I guess. It's no Merciless Savior... or Mighty Power... or EOV... Well, it's among strong company. Its opponent isn't too bad. It takes absolutely ages to get going, but Azure Arbitrator is not exactly fastpaced either. I actually think Resurrections might have the better high, but Azure Arbitrator does a better job keeping my attention overall.

I remember Light of Nibel, it's nice. ENDYMION is very interesting. I like both of these. I think Light of Nibel is more enjoyable to me but ENDYMION has some cool parts that I wish made up more of the song.

I guess Preserved Valkyria must also have been in a past contest? Sometimes I can't keep track of these rhythm game songs. This one is very good though, some parts remind me of soundtracks I really like. Innocence and Emptiness doesn't match up as well, it has some okay parts but I feel like I've heard it elsewhere done better, though I don't have a good grasp on where.
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xp1337
04/06/18 11:06:12 PM
#4:


The Legend of Heroes: Ao No Kiseki - The Azure Arbitrator
DanceDanceRevolution A - ENDYMION
SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS - Preserved Valkyria

Pretty great day! First match was especially cruel.
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PSI_NESS
04/06/18 11:19:08 PM
#5:


Resurrections
Light of Nibel
Preserved Valkyria

Man the last 3 minutes or so of Resurrections are amazing, the first 5 are just ok.
Nothing else i really liked today.
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Menji
04/06/18 11:28:00 PM
#6:


Resurrections
ENDYMION
Preserved Valkyria
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Team Rocket Elite
04/06/18 11:44:51 PM
#7:


The Legend of Heroes: Ao No Kiseki - The Azure Arbitrator
Ori and the Blind Forest - Light of Nibel
SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS - Preserved Valkyria
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pyresword
04/06/18 11:57:47 PM
#8:


The Azure Arbitrator
Light of Nibel
Innocence and Emptiness


Merciless Savior > Azure Arbitrator. Both are better than Resurrections though. Most of the song is boring, and while the last 3-4 minutes are more ambitious, something about the melody bothers me there. (specifically the way the pitch on some notes tends to bend, such as at 7:35)

Light of Nibel has always been a favorite in mine. In fact, whenever this was first nominated for the contest it actually got me to buy Ori and the Blind Forest. I tried to play through it, but my laptop couldn't actually handle the graphics even on the lowest setting...pretty fun game though. In other news, it's impressive how many of my pet peeves ENDYMION managed to hit. It's not quite my least favorite from the contest, but that's not for lack of trying.

Preserved Valkyria is a pretty cool song. The melody is more frantic than I typically like, but for some reason I think this one works well. Ok I didn't really like the beginning of Innocence and Emptiness (I am not a music box fan), but after 2 minutes or so it turns into a really great, tense song. It also keeps things fresh enough that it never really lets up for the remainder of the time. Take note songs from the first match, this is how you make long songs not boring.

Light of Nibel > Innocence and Emptiness > Preserved Valkyria > The Azure Arbitrator > Resurrections > ENDYMION
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azuarc
04/07/18 12:10:37 AM
#9:


Mac Arrowny posted...
Preserved Valkyria - who's the cheater who nommed a retired song for the side bracket?

I did say people could nominate Scars of Time if they really wanted to. I advised against it, of course, because the goal wasn't to "win" the bracket, but I imagine Preserved Valkyria's not nearly as big a threat to run the table...even if it has won at least 4 matches in one contest before.
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azuarc
04/07/18 12:11:47 AM
#10:


Oh, and before I forget...

Azure Arbitrator
ENDYMION
Innocence and Emptiness

Not that the first match is bad, but I'd take any of the other four songs over AA.
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Janus5k
04/07/18 12:31:45 AM
#11:


The Azure Arbitrator
ENDYMION
Innocence and Emptiness

Oh hey, two of my noms again. Not big on Resurrections - just really long and even when it picks up it's not great. Light of Nibel is nice though.
Bonus match is really great. I remember voting for Valkyria a lot during its run and while part of that was probably BEMANI bias it's still a really good song. I&E is very much up my alley though.
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KCF0107
04/07/18 1:09:37 AM
#12:


Resurrections
Nibel
Valkyria
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Mac Arrowny
04/07/18 2:04:29 AM
#13:


azuarc posted...
Mac Arrowny posted...
Preserved Valkyria - who's the cheater who nommed a retired song for the side bracket?

I did say people could nominate Scars of Time if they really wanted to. I advised against it, of course, because the goal wasn't to "win" the bracket, but I imagine Preserved Valkyria's not nearly as big a threat to run the table...even if it has won at least 4 matches in one contest before.


I wasn't being entirely serious :p
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MC_XD
04/07/18 2:49:07 AM
#14:


The Legend of Heroes: Ao No Kiseki - The Azure Arbitrator
Ori and the Blind Forest - Light of Nibel
SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS - Preserved Valkyria
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Prody Parrot
04/07/18 3:07:25 AM
#15:


The Azure Arbitrator
Light of Nibel
Preserved Valkyria
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UF8
04/07/18 4:20:02 AM
#16:


possibly the rudest day of the contest. every song here is really good

The Azure Arbitrator
ENDYMION
Preserved Valkyria

Only decision I really feel confident about is the first one.

Side barely > 2 > 1
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malyg
04/07/18 7:48:27 AM
#19:


Resurrections
Light of Nibel
Preserved Valkyria
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xx521xx
04/07/18 8:11:29 AM
#20:


The Azure Arbitrator
Light of Nibel
Innocence and Emptiness
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FL81
04/07/18 9:11:24 AM
#21:


The Azure Arbitrator
ENDYMION
Innocence and Emptiness

All of these are close matches. I ended up liking the Celeste tracks a lot more than I thought I would!
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azuarc
04/07/18 9:17:31 AM
#22:


Mac Arrowny posted...

I wasn't being entirely serious :p

No, but I'm sure somebody would be thinking it. I had intended on putting a disclaimer in the op saying not to slight in on that basis, which I figured could have been a thing.

Also, for those curious about i&e's opening, the song is a medley, similar to serpent eating the ground
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TheArkOfTurus
04/07/18 9:57:42 AM
#23:


Resurrections
ENDYMION
Preserved Valkyria
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tennisboy213
04/07/18 10:05:57 AM
#24:


Resurrections
ENDYMION
Innocence and Emptiness
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Mr Lasastryke
04/07/18 10:13:28 AM
#25:


Resurrections
Light of Nibel
Preserved Valkyria
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NFUN
04/07/18 11:21:37 AM
#26:


Azure Arbitrator
I don't even know where to begin
Innocence
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Raetsel_Lapin
04/07/18 11:24:08 AM
#27:


The Azure Arbitrator
Light of Nibel
Preserved Valkyria
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barreldragon88
04/07/18 2:26:46 PM
#28:


Celeste - Resurrections
Ori and the Blind Forest - Light of Nibel
SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS - Preserved Valkyria
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JONALEON1
04/07/18 2:49:30 PM
#29:


Resurrections
ENDYMION
Preserved Valkyria
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Advokaiser
04/07/18 4:10:46 PM
#30:


The Azure Arbitrator
Light of Nibel
Preserved Valkyria


Decent-to-great day.

-First match: There's something weird about rock songs with a sort of frenetic-but-controlled style to it (specially Falcom ones) that really makes me dig them more and more... But this one is a turn-off every time the organ and the out-of-tune chants come in. Still, it's powerful enough to beat Resurrections. By the way, I'm not liking Celeste's song styles at all -- it seems like it tries to emulate Commodore 64 chiptunes, which is one of my least favorite kind of chiptunes, while not bringing anything new to the table. Resurrections is not bad, just not remarkable.

-Second match: I didn't think at first that I would be voting for a chill song like Light of Nibel (chill songs aren't generally of my preference), but since its competitor is pretty frenetic in a bad way, I have no choice.

Third match: Oh boy, two great songs put together... Had to compare them side by side to decide, and Preserved Valkyria gets the edge. Plus, Innocence and Emptiness takes time to build up, while Preserved Valkyria gets to the point from the beginning, so... yeah.

The Azure Arbitrator > Preserved Valkyria > Innocence and Emptiness >>> Resurrections > Light of Nibel >>> ENDYMION
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Shonen_Bat
04/07/18 4:32:33 PM
#31:


The Azure Arbitrator
Light of Nibel
Innocence and Emptiness
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HBJDubs
04/07/18 4:33:36 PM
#32:


The Azure Arbitrator
Light of Nibel
Preserved Valkyria

Valkyria aka the last song I nominated that did well in a main contest! For the record I didn't pick it for the side bracket, but I certainly don't mind it getting exposure again
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th3l3fty
04/07/18 6:35:26 PM
#33:


Celeste - Resurrections
DanceDanceRevolution A - ENDYMION

Baldr Heart - Innocence and Emptiness

Baldr Heart song got robbed
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dowolf
04/07/18 6:46:44 PM
#34:


Azure Arbitrator
Endymion
Preserved Valkyria

HIGH-ER

also what retired song "seriously"?

also holy wow the baldr heart uniforms are stupid. I can't believe anyone would actually wear them.

also holy butts who schedules the nine minute song against the eight minute song and tosses a 7 minute song in the bonus match grumble grumble grumble
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Xuxon
04/07/18 7:51:05 PM
#35:


Resurrections
ENDYMION
Preserved Valkyria
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OrangeCrush980
04/07/18 8:17:26 PM
#36:


The Azure Arbitrator
Light of Nibel
Innocence and Emptiness
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azuarc
04/07/18 8:33:30 PM
#37:


ed votes:
The Azure Arbitrator
Light of Nibel
Innocence and Emptiness
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MargaretAnnMid
04/07/18 8:36:55 PM
#38:


Resurrections
Light of Nibel
Innocence and Emptiness
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dowolf
04/07/18 9:35:00 PM
#39:


final bump
~go for it~
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banshiryuu
04/07/18 9:35:50 PM
#40:


The Azure Arbitrator
ENDYMION
Preserved Valkyria

damn i wanted to write more but pressed of timmeeeeeeee also all six of these songs own, really good day
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kaonashi1
04/07/18 9:44:29 PM
#41:


Resurrections
Light of Nibel
Innocence and Emptiness

-feeling 'atmospheric' (or whatever the term means in my head) at the moment-- votes definitely reflecting that; both second and side bracket matches felt close otherwise
-quick hits on first match: Azure Arbitrator 'electric guitar boss theme' etc. moments that sound a bit like Daisuke Ishiwatari. organs/choral work intended to evoke 'religious' or 'holy' theme in blatant, obvious ways. it's okay, and some of the guitar sections catch my interest, but wears on me after a while. big fan of the entirety of resurrections-- the quiet loneliness of the first part is less interesting (and a little too 'In the House, In a Heartbeat' in progression) but I really love its vibe and might actually be my preferred section of the track. this is what hooked me on the Celeste soundtrack. the second half ups the energy and it's got cool panning effects and a nice sonic palette.
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Advokaiser
04/07/18 10:05:44 PM
#42:


dowolf posted...
final bump
~go for it~


Is that a Street Fighter III reference?
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Arti
04/07/18 10:12:49 PM
#43:


The Legend of Heroes: Ao No Kiseki - The Azure Arbitrator
Ori and the Blind Forest - Light of Nibel
Baldr Heart - Innocence and Emptiness
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dowolf
04/07/18 10:14:00 PM
#44:


i mean, i was thinking fzero

but w/e.
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