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Reg 01/19/18 10:10:18 PM #1: |
nt goes in topic title
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ninkendo 01/19/18 10:15:06 PM #2: |
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greengravy294 01/19/18 10:16:57 PM #3: |
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AquaArcane 01/19/18 10:18:40 PM #4: |
git gud
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HaRRicH 01/19/18 10:21:20 PM #5: |
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Reg 01/19/18 10:30:49 PM #6: |
greengravy294 posted...
noob reg ye AquaArcane posted... git gud lots of :thinking: going on right now don't worry HaRRicH posted... rip in peace in your favorite games True story, the only games I've played in the past two months are LttP Randomizers, LttP (to try to git gud at randomizer), and FTL And I've played maybe two hours of FTL --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LiquidOshawott 01/19/18 11:13:31 PM #7: |
Its ok so am I
Theres a reason my favorite genre is RPGS --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VI ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomNook 01/19/18 11:14:25 PM #8: |
LiquidOshawott posted...
Its ok so am I Isn't that basically this whole board? I never see anyone here talk about fighting games. --- Bells, bells, bells! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 01/19/18 11:15:45 PM #9: |
TomNook posted...
I never see anyone here talk about fighting games. Lots of people here like fighting games. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reg 01/19/18 11:16:43 PM #10: |
TomNook posted...
LiquidOshawott posted...Its ok so am I Fighting games are actually just trash Not as trash as rhythm games, but still trash. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 01/19/18 11:18:13 PM #11: |
Reg posted...
Fighting games are actually just trash says the guy who's bad at video games LOL --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reg 01/19/18 11:22:24 PM #12: |
LeonhartFour posted...
Reg posted...Fighting games are actually just trash This and that are actually separate issues. I'm fairly competitive among my friends in fighting games. They're just not fun. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LiquidOshawott 01/19/18 11:24:07 PM #13: |
I Like fighting games!
Im just not very good at them, probably more that I just like rushdowny characters that are extremely offensive --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VI ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 01/19/18 11:25:02 PM #14: |
Hi fighting games are a top 3 genre for me
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Solioxrz362 01/19/18 11:36:14 PM #15: |
TomNook posted...
LiquidOshawott posted...Its ok so am I JRPGs are probably among my least favorite genres from what I've played of them My favorites are the action-adventure type, and I play a fighting game or two --- Got a brand new blues that I can't explain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 01/19/18 11:57:58 PM #16: |
Solioxrz362 posted...
TomNook posted...LiquidOshawott posted...Its ok so am I millenial alert --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iiicon 01/20/18 12:00:32 AM #17: |
millenials are ruining the jrpg industry
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GranzonEx 01/20/18 12:08:26 AM #18: |
I'm decent at fighting games but it requires more of my time than MOBAs and I just don't have the time to put in to be decent at fighting games anymore
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Solioxrz362 01/20/18 1:21:22 AM #19: |
jrpgs often have really bad game design choices that add unnecessary elements that aren't fun
you all just don't realize it because at a certain time those were the easiest games to make and sometimes they were done really good i did not exist before 1999 so i did not play a lot of those games before I played other (often newer) ones nowadays we have better technology to make more intensive sequences work better and to allow for more creative game design and often times the genres that use sections like that are the ones i like the best (maybe by coincidence, maybe for this exact reason) --- Got a brand new blues that I can't explain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 01/20/18 1:35:30 AM #20: |
w0w speak ill of Dragon Warrior 1 again and we'll have to throw hands
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Lopen 01/20/18 1:46:21 AM #21: |
Reg posted...
I'm fairly competitive among my friends in fighting games. They're just not fun. This could just mean all your friends are bad at them too. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Janus5k 01/20/18 9:42:29 AM #22: |
Reg posted...
Not as trash as rhythm games whoa there --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 01/20/18 10:02:18 AM #23: |
Lopen posted...
Reg posted...I'm fairly competitive among my friends in fighting games. They're just not fun. That's almost certainly what it means. I crush all my friends at fighting games, but I'm only so-so online. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reg 01/20/18 10:17:20 AM #24: |
Lopen posted...
Reg posted...I'm fairly competitive among my friends in fighting games. They're just not fun. That's exactly what it means. But the lack of a skill differential means me being bad isn't an issue, and doesn't strongly influence my opinion --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 01/20/18 10:26:24 AM #25: |
It's a pretty damn bad opinion but it's yours I guess
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Raka_Putra 01/20/18 10:39:06 AM #26: |
Sports games are literally a plague to the society. I think it was what killed off the Incans and ate the Egyptians' crops.
Racing games are also pretty inherently uninteresting. --- Fuhlt nicht durch dich Sarastro Todesschmerzen, So bist du meine Tochter nimmermehr-- eeeeeeeeeeeeeeehr. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reg 01/20/18 11:12:01 AM #27: |
Trying to remember the last time I played a sports game, and can't. Do agree they're basically trash too.
I've played some Mario Kart (Super and 64) in the past year though. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 01/20/18 12:28:53 PM #28: |
the newest sports game I played was last years MLB The Show
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WalkingWiki 01/20/18 1:13:46 PM #29: |
Yeah sports games arent too good anymore, but I still like racing games
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Lopen 01/20/18 1:20:08 PM #30: |
I mean differential skill may not entirely matter. There are reasons you could enjoy the game less unrelated to losing. Just clown mashing with your friends might not be satisfying to you because none of you have any idea of what you're doing, not because of win rate.
I mean I could name dozens of things I liked more once I learned how to play them a bit better. And because of stuff like matchmaking, my friends also being bad at them, and frankly not really being a sore loser to begin with, I can't really say it's because my win rate went up. Hell Virtua Fighter is a great example of a series that I thought was incredibly boring until I actually learned it a bit-- I'm still not very good at Virtua Fighter but I do actually enjoy it now. Marvel vs Capcom games get a lot more interesting when you actually start to understand how assists work and when to call them, and can reliably do some basic combos, etc etc. Not just fighters though. Chess is probably the best example of a game I appreciated more as I got better at it. Or for an example of a game I know you actually play, League of Legends. You're telling me you never started to appreciate that game more once you got more of a clue what you were doing? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranzonEx 01/20/18 1:38:07 PM #31: |
you spend 40 minutes in a LoL match and you can enjoy and improve your play slightly
you spend 40 minutes practicing a combo in training mode for a fighter and you might get the timing down for that one character the time investment is just not worth it for fighters and that's why the fgc is pretty much a dead scene --- 2 line break(s), 160 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 01/20/18 1:39:13 PM #32: |
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Lopen 01/20/18 1:39:44 PM #33: |
Well you don't have to be that hardcore to enjoy a fighter
You do need to progress beyond a very basic level of hitting buttons until one of the two sides falls down though --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nanis23 01/20/18 1:40:34 PM #34: |
GranzonEx posted...
you spend 40 minutes in a LoL match and you can enjoy and improve your play slightly OK I can understand the second part about fighting games but to say that Moba-genre games can be improved easily is uh...what LOL might be easier than Dota but it still takes years to master --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranzonEx 01/20/18 1:43:38 PM #35: |
in college I had 3 roommates that I spent a lot of time playing SF4
we pretty much only played SF4 for like 3 years and went to local tournaments and we were just decent at the game if we spent that amount of time playing LoL we would all be Diamond 1s in LoL like you think you are good at fighting games because you can do a dp and then a random super in SF4 to your friends, my friends and I spent countless hours in training mode practicing FADC combos and 1 frame links --- 2 line break(s), 160 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 01/20/18 1:45:05 PM #36: |
counterpoint: lol is shit
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Lopen 01/20/18 1:46:22 PM #37: |
Honestly you can improve in fighting games to the level where you can improve at LoL just by playing the game pretty equally I think. Full disclosure I've probably haven't gone into training mode for more than a few hours total combined in my entire life and while I'm not pro level, guess what, "diamond 1" isn't either.
I'm no fighting game master or anything but I have gone to EVO to be fodder for fun and wasn't completely blown out, and got a decent rating in Marvel 3 online when I actually played it. Like the level of mastery you're comparing is more like high challenger level dedication-- forget diamond 1. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 01/20/18 1:46:45 PM #38: |
Also lol thinking the fgc is a dead scene if anything it's coming alive again especially with Dragon Ball Fighterz
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LeonhartFour 01/20/18 1:47:46 PM #39: |
Yeah, I almost never do training mode. I don't care to be tournament level good, and you don't need to be to enjoy fighting games.
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KamikazePotato 01/20/18 1:52:12 PM #40: |
Well as someone who got up to Diamond 3, LoL is many times more complicated than fighting games and requires a much higher time investment to get good at and understand. Assuming that you are equally proficient in both genres, you could become a fighting game pro much faster than a MOBA pro.
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Lopen 01/20/18 1:53:15 PM #41: |
Also if you're in training mode for 40 minutes regularly getting one frame links or whatever and can't consider yourself a bit better than "decent" at your local fighting game scene I'm wondering if there's something that's fundamentally not clicking with you or if you have the uber god mode local fighting game scene to end all local fighting game scenes. There's so much in fighting games that isn't about timing windows and such.
I mean in SF4 when I did a bit of training for EVO I got pretty good with Juri just learning a couple of simple combos-- nothing super tough. You generally only need the hardcore combos when you're at the absolute top level and you need to extract every last bit of damage out of every bit offense you've got. But I mean, keeping a cool head under pressure, spacing, what to do when the other guy is down-- you don't learn that stuff in training mode and that's way more important than one frame links or whatever. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranzonEx 01/20/18 1:54:18 PM #42: |
challenger is just diamond 1s that grind a lot, like probably 12 hours a day of grind to stay there
like 1 challenger isn't going to 1v5 a team of diamond 1s in the 95lp range and yes LoL is shit but it's fun to play when the meta is fast paced and the fgc is dead compared to LoL, just look at twitch numbers EVO and Capcom Cup numbers are like 150k viewers which is just the average weekly LCS viewership --- 2 line break(s), 160 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reg 01/20/18 1:54:42 PM #43: |
FFDragon posted...
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LeonhartFour 01/20/18 1:55:18 PM #44: |
well yes nearly everything is "dead" compared to LoL
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KamikazePotato 01/20/18 1:56:26 PM #45: |
EVO numbers have steadily grown year-to-year for a while now, I think. LoL's numbers have no bearing on it.
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Bane_Of_Despair 01/20/18 2:00:20 PM #46: |
Granzon you ALMOST seem like you're trolling but I don't think you are which is sad
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GranzonEx 01/20/18 2:01:56 PM #47: |
LoL is a more mentally dependent game you almost don't need to be mechanically good to play 90% of the champs
fgc is dead though, at least SFV, it barely breaks 5k total viewers on twitch when nothing is going on --- 2 line break(s), 160 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 01/20/18 2:03:33 PM #48: |
Ok there's a difference between a certain game being dead and "the fgc" being dead.
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LeonhartFour 01/20/18 2:04:33 PM #49: |
yeah SFV being a flop isn't really a referendum on the FGC as a whole
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GranzonEx 01/20/18 2:07:00 PM #50: |
https://www.twitch.tv/directory
LCS is today there's also a Smash tourny going on doesn't appear to be an event for Fortnite and PUBG --- 2 line break(s), 160 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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