Current Events > Do you like "pacifist" options in video games?

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There's also Undertale where you literally get the best ending by going completely pacifist.

I like games where you can talk your way through encounters rather than always defaulting to combat.

garan posted...

I like games where you can talk your way through encounters rather than always defaulting to combat.

How many games even do this?

I haven't played many games where it's a thing. Only Mirror's Edge, which was really hard to do lol

super_felicia posted...

How many games even do this?

Typically rpgs only. Western ones, specifically.

super_felicia posted...

How many games even do this?

A few CRPGS.

super_felicia posted...

How many games even do this?

A lot of immersive sims do

Planescape: Torment has something like 6 fights in the entire game that you flat out have to do.

Ive only played undertale and nothing else I thought there wasnt even enough of this mechanic to list them

if they can make it fun, yes. If the game is largely built around combat, and all youre doing is skipping the combat, then its kind of just a pointless option.

When skipping combat means passing a skill check and keep some generic NPCs hanging around, I'm good.

Not sure how much it counts, but these days whenever I play Subnautica I almost always do a vegetarian playthrough. Makes the game a little more challenging, as you have to be more resourceful and proactive when it comes to foraging.
The only times I do kill a creature is if I accidentally bump into them with a vehicle.

Nah it's too boring

I did it in Age of Decadence where you don't have to fight a single battle if you go the diplomacy route.

I like it when they actually give you good options for it. I don't like it when it hampers you and locks you out of using really cool abilities. Deus Ex and MGS (especially V) do it the best imo.

If there's a way to not hurt things in games, I'm doing it.

This is basically the best route for MGS games.

yes and no

i like the challenge of having to avoid killing, like in hitman, or metal gear

i DISLIKE when games dont balance it right (imo)

like take dishonored. phenomenal game. very creative and fun to play. i will never know what is like to kill in it, because story and future mechanics are tied to killing

like, it's not "canon", and it "punishes" you later. im not into that. when its done like that, it feels obligatory, yk?

Dungeater posted...

like take dishonored. phenomenal game. very creative and fun to play. i will never know what is like to kill in it, because story and future mechanics are tied to killing

like, it's not "canon", and it "punishes" you later. im not into that. when its done like that, it feels obligatory, yk?

Admittedly, but damn is the game easier when you can just kill people and their bodies disappear.

DuuuDe14 posted...

This is basically the best route for MGS games.

Came here to say this. I remember beating MGS 4 no killing, tranq only. I was so proud lol

I like going for no kill runs in MGS games. Except for the bosses, Ill try out the weapons on them, because I have an entire armory in my backpack and Im gonna use it.

I have heard you can do a pacifist route in Planescape Torment. Or at least, with the final boss. Supposedly there is an option to talk it out with the final boss instead of fighting.

if it's an option, sure

In stealth games yeah.

No.

no because inevitably some NPC will piss me off and I'll want to kill them

Yeah, if they put it in, they obviously wanted you to use it. I also like when the enemy has some useful device or item, and you can either destroy it to immediately beat the mission, or do some extra work to take it for yourself.

I like it when it works with the narrative. For example in Watch Dogs 1 and 2 they give you all kinds of weapons to use but IMO those games are at their best when you try your hardest to get through and not kill anyone

I wouldn't say I enjoy it exactly. But I will do it for a challenge or trophy.

I have gotten it unintentionally on speed runs.

Yeah, I prefer not to kill in MGS and games like it if I can help it.

I enjoy having a choice for most enemies, like I never kill the rats in Tomb Raider, they're just chilling in the cistern, swimming around, have the time of their life!
I'm not gonna be that guy and crash their party and mass murder them, hell nah, I'm jumping in and having a swim with them, good times, worst case scenario I get some love bites, it's all good, I ain't even mad.

Pierre, the gorillas and the crocodiles had it long time coming though. They're getting gunned down on sight.

garan posted...

I like games where you can talk your way through encounters rather than always defaulting to combat.

Talk-no-jutsu gets the most xp and the best wrist rewards in most games.

Also, I just find I can't really be an asshole in those games, even when it's consequence-free. Might take the sarcastic good option, though, sometimes.

So, talking is always my best option.

Yeap have done it often in Fallout 1 and 2.

In Shadowrun: Hong Kong, there are many fights you can resolve by just talking it out depending on your charisma level & chosen etiquettes.

The last boss in the DLC can also be defeated without killing anyone if you fulfill several requirements. (Her contractor has decided to double-cross her after the job is done and you got the deeds on that)

Cuphead was my first thought. That game wants you to beat all its platformer levels without shooting once.
I wouldn't exactly call it fun.

Yes, so long as it's something interesting. A simple dice roll to avoid playing the game? That's no good. Offering an entirely new way of playing the game with different rewards and even story? That's great.

They can be really fun in some games. I remember Deus Ex on 360 was considered best this way. MGS3 is really fun played non-lethally as well.

thronedfire2 posted...

no because inevitably some NPC will piss me off and I'll want to kill them

All part of the journey

It was shit in Dishonored since they didn't give you any easy nonlethal options for dealing with enemies once you'd been detected, but it was pretty fun in Dishonored 2 as Emily with that Mesmerize ability.

I like it being an option, but I'd never do it.

Crimsoness posted...

I've only ever done them in Deus Ex and Dishonored

Mgs has a bunch, famous for it

I have no problem with them.

I liked it in dishonoured, but thats the only time Ive done it

Depends on the game. I beat Mankind Divided as a pacifist because its still fun to play. In a lot of games, it just makes things boring though.