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DementedDurian 03/30/24 11:20:01 AM #301:	...and I just want to play as beautiful women because I have severe gender dysphoria. She doesn't have to have a large bust; just someone distinctly feminine calms my nerves while I forget the ugly, hairy and bearded form I have. --- (She/Her) I'm a succubus. Don't worry, I'm not going to hurt you. <3 Video Game IGN: Mystic. Ask me for a joke, I come up with some good ones. <cite>DementedDurian posted [p:979641705] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>...and I just want to play as beautiful women because I have severe gender dysphoria. She doesn't have to have a large bust; just someone distinctly feminine calms my nerves while I forget the ugly, hairy and bearded form I have. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 03/30/24 11:20:46 AM #302:	NoxObscuras posted... No, those are the effects it can have on women My love for boobs can drive women to suicide? I think that's a little overreaching. Saying that a person is objectified because they're an "object of desire" is nonsense. Objectification is when you strip someone of their worth as a human being. It's probably more accurate to say that a person is a "subject of desire" if you desire to be with them. No matter how much you respect someone someone, or value them as an individual, anyone that you're attracted to is going to be the subject of your desire. The idea that attraction and respect are antonyms are nonsense because a relationship cannot last indefinitely without a measure of both. (And attraction doesn't have to be purely physical.) The all-or-nothing approach is stupid. Should all women in video games be top-heavy titty warriors in micro-bikinis or should all women in video games have bad hair and featureless bodies hidden under multiple layers of clothing? Hmm, I don't know, maybe it's a bad idea to have a solitary template for how best to depict over half of the human race. Sometimes a story calls for a Carmen Electra. Sometimes a story calls for a Janeane Garofalo. If people want to make a decision to not focus on physical attractiveness, that's their business. But it doesn't need to be a mandate from the higherups. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979641714] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>No, those are the effects it can have on women </quote>My love for boobs can drive women to suicide? I think that's a little overreaching. Saying that a person is objectified because they're an "object of desire" is nonsense. Objectification is when you strip someone of their worth as a human being. It's probably more accurate to say that a person is a "subject of desire" if you desire to be with them. No matter how much you respect someone someone, or value them as an individual, anyone that you're attracted to is going to be the subject of your desire. The idea that attraction and respect are antonyms are nonsense because a relationship cannot last indefinitely without a measure of both. (And attraction doesn't have to be purely physical.)The all-or-nothing approach is stupid. Should all women in video games be top-heavy titty warriors in micro-bikinis or should all women in video games have bad hair and featureless bodies hidden under multiple layers of clothing? Hmm, I don't know, maybe it's a bad idea to have a solitary template for how best to depict over half of the human race. Sometimes a story calls for a Carmen Electra. Sometimes a story calls for a Janeane Garofalo.If people want to make a decision to not focus on physical attractiveness, that's their business. But it doesn't need to be a mandate from the higherups. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 03/30/24 11:22:53 AM #303:	Missing the forest for the trees, as it were. --- [click here] pronouns incoming SHE HAS PRONOUNS!>(She/Her)<CHECK OUT my PRONOUNS <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:979641742] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Missing the forest for the trees, as it were. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 03/30/24 11:29:03 AM #304:	CSCA33 posted... Missing the forest for the trees, as it were. I get what you're trying to say and I disagree with you. If your worth as a human being is dependent upon having a set template for the proper way to depict women in video games, you clearly have greater problems going on. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979641820] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CSCA33 posted... </cite><quote>Missing the forest for the trees, as it were.</quote>I get what you're trying to say and I disagree with you.If your worth as a human being is dependent upon having a set template for the proper way to depict women in video games, you clearly have greater problems going on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 03/30/24 11:35:36 AM #305:	FortuneCookie posted... I get what you're trying to say and I disagree with you. If your worth as a human being is dependent upon having a set template for the proper way to depict women in video games, you clearly have greater problems going on. Humans are affected by their environment. These are societal issues and the same general idea you are applying here can be used to dismiss people with addiction problems, where environment also plays a factor. Giving thoughtful consideration about a certain facet of an issue is not to say that is the sole causation. --- [click here] pronouns incoming SHE HAS PRONOUNS!>(She/Her)<CHECK OUT my PRONOUNS <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:979641916] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>I get what you're trying to say and I disagree with you.If your worth as a human being is dependent upon having a set template for the proper way to depict women in video games, you clearly have greater problems going on.</quote>Humans are affected by their environment. These are societal issues and the same general idea you are applying here can be used to dismiss people with addiction problems, where environment also plays a factor. Giving thoughtful consideration about a certain facet of an issue is not to say that is the sole causation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 03/30/24 11:39:46 AM #306:	PTSD is another good example with the stigma surrounding it and how individual people process trauma differently. What is traumatic for one person isnt necessarily so for another or to the same degree. --- [click here] pronouns incoming SHE HAS PRONOUNS!>(She/Her)<CHECK OUT my PRONOUNS <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:979641976] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>PTSD is another good example with the stigma surrounding it and how individual people process trauma differently. What is traumatic for one person isnt necessarily so for another or to the same degree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 03/30/24 11:42:43 AM #307:	DementedDurian posted... ...and I just want to play as beautiful women because I have severe gender dysphoria. She doesn't have to have a large bust; just someone distinctly feminine calms my nerves while I forget the ugly, hairy and bearded form I have. This is a perspective that also needs to be heard and voiced more. --- "Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat <poop>! Filth is my politics! Filth is my life!" - Babs Johnson <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:979642027] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>DementedDurian posted... </cite><quote>...and I just want to play as beautiful women because I have severe gender dysphoria. She doesn't have to have a large bust; just someone distinctly feminine calms my nerves while I forget the ugly, hairy and bearded form I have.</quote>This is a perspective that also needs to be heard and voiced more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 03/30/24 11:42:45 AM #308:	CSCA33 posted... PTSD is another good example with the stigma surrounding it and how individual people process trauma differently. What is traumatic for one person isnt necessarily so for another or to the same degree. People with PTSD will just try to avoid triggers or go to therapy to try and get over them. They dont go to birthday parties and tell people they cant use balloons, cause it triggers their war ptsd. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:979642029] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CSCA33 posted... </cite><quote>PTSD is another good example with the stigma surrounding it and how individual people process trauma differently. What is traumatic for one person isnt necessarily so for another or to the same degree.</quote>People with PTSD will just try to avoid triggers or go to therapy to try and get over them. They dont go to birthday parties and tell people they cant use balloons, cause it triggers their war ptsd. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 03/30/24 11:46:22 AM #309:	Can we all agree that the problem here is two-fold: 1) Clueless gaming execs and the overpaid clueless consultants they bring in to attempt to appease one potential audience or critique to always do so in such a heavy handed and poorly explained way that it ignites... 2) Toxic, entitled, misogynistic gamers who will immediately make themselves into victims and then start posting rampant misogyny and death or rape threats. --- Aren't we all just a series of tubes? <cite>Torgo posted [p:979642088] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Can we all agree that the problem here is two-fold:1) Clueless gaming execs and the overpaid clueless consultants they bring in to attempt to appease one potential audience or critique to always do so in such a heavy handed and poorly explained way that it ignites...2) Toxic, entitled, misogynistic gamers who will immediately make themselves into victims and then start posting rampant misogyny and death or rape threats. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 03/30/24 11:46:31 AM #310:	Bass_X0 posted... There isnt Cap --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:979642093] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Bass_X0 posted... </cite><quote>There isnt</quote>Cap </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 03/30/24 11:48:43 AM #311:	JuanCarlos1 posted... People with PTSD will just try to avoid triggers or go to therapy to try and get over them. They dont go to birthday parties and tell people they cant use balloons, cause it triggers their war ptsd. Thats not the point I was making. Part of the consideration for comparison is what caused the person to develop PTSD in the first place with the environment. Two people can go through the same event and only one develops PTSD. That doesnt mean theyre a bad person or weak, etc. And what we do with media shapes culture and affects society. Its not any one particular film or game, but on the whole how are women represented in media? Mostly good, mostly bad, mostly sexual, etc. Balancing out the representation. Are most or all women in TV the villain? If so, how does that affect society? Numbers move in population statistics. --- [click here] pronouns incoming SHE HAS PRONOUNS!>(She/Her)<CHECK OUT my PRONOUNS <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:979642125] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite><quote>People with PTSD will just try to avoid triggers or go to therapy to try and get over them. They dont go to birthday parties and tell people they cant use balloons, cause it triggers their war ptsd.</quote>Thats not the point I was making. Part of the consideration for comparison is what caused the person to develop PTSD in the first place with the environment. Two people can go through the same event and only one develops PTSD. That doesnt mean theyre a bad person or weak, etc.And what we do with media shapes culture and affects society. Its not any one particular film or game, but on the whole how are women represented in media? Mostly good, mostly bad, mostly sexual, etc. Balancing out the representation. Are most or all women in TV the villain? If so, how does that affect society? Numbers move in population statistics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 03/30/24 11:54:10 AM #312:	FortuneCookie posted... Sometimes a story calls for a Janeane Garofalo. https://youtu.be/zCyBnysVE0M Don't forget Janeane is a gen-X'r in her late 50s now, she used to be a real cutie. --- Aren't we all just a series of tubes? <cite>Torgo posted [p:979642185] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>Sometimes a story calls for a Janeane Garofalo.</quote>https://youtu.be/zCyBnysVE0MDon't forget Janeane is a gen-X'r in her late 50s now, she used to be a real cutie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 03/30/24 11:57:23 AM #313:	Stochastic terrorism is another way to look at it, where a conservative with a platform can say something inflammatory to the public. They didnt tell one particular person to hurt someone, but if they do it enough, many/most of them are saying this inflammatory thing, then eventually it affects people in the population to act on that. Being conscientious of how we contribute to society, what are those effects, being responsible with platforms and media that reaches large numbers of people. --- [click here] pronouns incoming SHE HAS PRONOUNS!>(She/Her)<CHECK OUT my PRONOUNS <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:979642246] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Stochastic terrorism is another way to look at it, where a conservative with a platform can say something inflammatory to the public. They didnt tell one particular person to hurt someone, but if they do it enough, many/most of them are saying this inflammatory thing, then eventually it affects people in the population to act on that. Being conscientious of how we contribute to society, what are those effects, being responsible with platforms and media that reaches large numbers of people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 03/30/24 12:06:17 PM #314:	CSCA33 posted... Stochastic terrorism is another way to look at it, where a conservative with a platform can say something inflammatory to the public. They didnt tell one particular person to hurt someone, but if they do it enough, many/most of them are saying this inflammatory thing, then eventually it affects people in the population to act on that. Being conscientious of how we contribute to society, what are those effects, being responsible with platforms and media that reaches large numbers of people. The perfect example is the Daily Wire promoting wildly inflammatory and bigoted rhetoric about LGBTQ people, and even promoting misinformation about hospitals to the point where Daily Wire viewers were sending in bomb and death threats to those hospitals - because of a "gotcha" call with a receptionist where after being pushed and pushed and frequently telling the troll they really need to speak to a physician directly. --- Aren't we all just a series of tubes? <cite>Torgo posted [p:979642384] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CSCA33 posted... </cite><quote>Stochastic terrorism is another way to look at it, where a conservative with a platform can say something inflammatory to the public. They didnt tell one particular person to hurt someone, but if they do it enough, many/most of them are saying this inflammatory thing, then eventually it affects people in the population to act on that. Being conscientious of how we contribute to society, what are those effects, being responsible with platforms and media that reaches large numbers of people.</quote>The perfect example is the Daily Wire promoting wildly inflammatory and bigoted rhetoric about LGBTQ people, and even promoting misinformation about hospitals to the point where Daily Wire viewers were sending in bomb and death threats to those hospitals - because of a "gotcha" call with a receptionist where after being pushed and pushed and frequently telling the troll they really need to speak to a physician directly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
action52 03/30/24 1:07:55 PM #315:	Torgo posted... Don't forget Janeane is a gen-X'r in her late 50s now, she used to be a real cutie. Oh man, I had a HUGE crush on her in the 90s. I still like her a lot. And I'd say she still looks damn good now, especially for a woman in her 50s. --- "It's Choicin' time." Sophie, Sophie's Choice <cite>action52 posted [p:979643279] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Torgo posted... </cite><quote>Don't forget Janeane is a gen-X'r in her late 50s now, she used to be a real cutie.</quote>Oh man, I had a HUGE crush on her in the 90s. I still like her a lot. And I'd say she still looks damn good now, especially for a woman in her 50s. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 03/30/24 4:41:12 PM #316:	CSCA33 posted... Humans are affected by their environment. These are societal issues and the same general idea you are applying here can be used to dismiss people with addiction problems, where environment also plays a factor. Giving thoughtful consideration about a certain facet of an issue is not to say that is the sole causation. The general idea I'm applying is that there isn't a set way to do things. There isn't one specific acceptable type that should be the only one. Torgo posted... Don't forget Janeane is a gen-X'r in her late 50s now, she used to be a real cutie. I intentionally went with older examples. If I mentioned Sydney Sweeney and Daisy Ridley, it would prompt discussions over their most recent films rather than body diversity. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979646546] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CSCA33 posted... </cite><quote>Humans are affected by their environment. These are societal issues and the same general idea you are applying here can be used to dismiss people with addiction problems, where environment also plays a factor. Giving thoughtful consideration about a certain facet of an issue is not to say that is the sole causation.</quote>The general idea I'm applying is that there isn't a set way to do things. There isn't one specific acceptable type that should be the only one.Torgo posted... </cite><quote>Don't forget Janeane is a gen-X'r in her late 50s now, she used to be a real cutie.</quote>I intentionally went with older examples. If I mentioned Sydney Sweeney and Daisy Ridley, it would prompt discussions over their most recent films rather than body diversity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 03/30/24 6:54:57 PM #317:	Revelation34 posted... Yet you mentioned Fire Emblem earlier when almost every female character has boobs the size of Jupiter. Bass_X0 posted... Community Note: They actually dont. No wonder we get such small booba if developer/publisher prudes consider Fire Emblem women to have boobs the size of Jupiter. Those games usually have like a pretty large variety of chest busts, A through D. Now here are some planet-sized proportions https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1db02981.jpg P.S. I love the new community notes on Twitter. Someone recently got noted for legitimately trying to claim anyone that liked Lusamine from Pokmon was a peado. The community note said she was 40 plus with two children --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:979648517] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Yet you mentioned Fire Emblem earlier when almost every female character has boobs the size of Jupiter.</quote>Bass_X0 posted... </cite><quote>Community Note:They actually dont.</quote>No wonder we get such small booba if developer/publisher prudes consider Fire Emblem women to have boobs the size of Jupiter. Those games usually have like a pretty large variety of chest busts, A through D.Now here are some planet-sized proportionshttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1db02981.jpg P.S.I love the new community notes on Twitter.Someone recently got noted for legitimately trying to claim anyone that liked Lusamine from Pokmon was a peado. The community note said she was 40 plus with two children </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 03/31/24 5:38:29 AM #318:	CSCA33 posted... video games are another form of media/entertainment like tv, film, magazines. Tv shows and movies include fictional content, animation, computer generated imagery. These issues are also tied into the budding sex robot industry. Its a cultural issue in society and disingenuous to act like gaming is somehow exempt. There is no harm because it's entirely fictional. They have to create the graphics themselves which will never look exactly like a real person. Bass_X0 posted... <u>Community Note:</u> They actually dont. They do. DnDer posted... And you still failed to comprehend it. She's a model. A real woman who's part of the problem of setting unrealistic body expectations of what women look like in media. Keep up. Because only specific forms of media can have a negative impact on someone consuming it? And that surely doesn't include video games. And not a single post flaming Idiot Machine with some variation of, "lives up to his name, lulz," seems to have been moderated. But zonbei is the one who gets nuked for legit calling someone to the mat? Nah, bro. People mark with an agenda or a vendetta in mind. You've been on 261 and seen it. Don't act like the moderation system is being leveraged in a fair and equitable manner when you can see evidence to the contrary. No. I barely used it. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:979655696] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CSCA33 posted...</cite><quote>video games are another form of media/entertainment like tv, film, magazines. Tv shows and movies include fictional content, animation, computer generated imagery. These issues are also tied into the budding sex robot industry. Its a cultural issue in society and disingenuous to act like gaming is somehow exempt.</quote>There is no harm because it's entirely fictional. They have to create the graphics themselves which will never look exactly like a real person.Bass_X0 posted...</cite><quote><u>Community Note:</u>They actually dont.</quote>They do.DnDer posted...</cite><quote>And you still failed to comprehend it.She's a model. A real woman who's part of the problem of setting unrealistic body expectations of what women look like in media.Keep up.Because only specific forms of media can have a negative impact on someone consuming it? And that surely doesn't include video games.And not a single post flaming Idiot Machine with some variation of, "lives up to his name, lulz," seems to have been moderated. But zonbei is the one who gets nuked for legit calling someone to the mat?Nah, bro. People mark with an agenda or a vendetta in mind. You've been on 261 and seen it. Don't act like the moderation system is being leveraged in a fair and equitable manner when you can see evidence to the contrary.</quote>No. I barely used it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerMan5000000 03/31/24 9:35:44 AM #319:	Do they really think this will help their gaming division in any meaningful way? --- Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galatians 4:16 <cite>PowerMan5000000 posted [p:979657309] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Do they really think this will help their gaming division in any meaningful way? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 03/31/24 12:33:16 PM #320:	Revelation34 posted... Yet you mentioned Fire Emblem earlier when almost every female character has boobs the size of Jupiter. Bass_X0 posted... Community Note: They actually dont. Revelation34 posted... They do. Alright, since you're so insistent on that. Let's take a look at some women from Fire Emblem Engage, shall we? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/451f674b.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3d5b0096.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f29c7dfc.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/359eeed4.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2866f070.jpg Like legitimately most of the cast has a small bust size. Only like 4 or 5 look visibly larger than A or B cup --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:979659397] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Yet you mentioned Fire Emblem earlier when almost every female character has boobs the size of Jupiter.</quote>Bass_X0 posted... </cite><quote>Community Note:They actually dont.</quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>They do.</quote>Alright, since you're so insistent on that. Let's take a look at some women from Fire Emblem Engage, shall we?https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/451f674b.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3d5b0096.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f29c7dfc.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/359eeed4.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2866f070.jpgLike legitimately most of the cast has a small bust size. Only like 4 or 5 look visibly larger than A or B cup </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 03/31/24 12:35:22 PM #321:	NoxObscuras posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/451f674b.jpg >busty women "Those are unrealistic body standards." >petite women "She's practically a child. Have a seat over there." <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979659442] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/451f674b.jpg</quote>>busty women"Those are unrealistic body standards.">petite women"She's practically a child. Have a seat over there."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 03/31/24 12:51:11 PM #322:	Revelation34 posted... There is no harm because it's entirely fictional. You cant be serious. Being a work of fiction does not exempt something from impacting people and shape their beliefs, perceptions, and make lasting impressions. --- [click here] pronouns incoming SHE HAS PRONOUNS!>(She/Her)<CHECK OUT my PRONOUNS <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:979659657] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>There is no harm because it's entirely fictional. </quote>You cant be serious. Being a work of fiction does not exempt something from impacting people and shape their beliefs, perceptions, and make lasting impressions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 03/31/24 3:14:46 PM #324:	FortuneCookie posted... >busty women "Those are unrealistic body standards." >petite women "She's practically a child. Have a seat over there." As if anime or anime games are ever based in reality. Anyway it's getting away from the point they were making is that someone claimed fire emblem women* have a planetary bust sizes. It wasn't about unrealistic body standards, though they actually have a pretty large variety of body types. Anyone interested in reviewing all the characters, take a look at this wiki https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Fire_Emblem_Engage --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:979661796] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>>busty women"Those are unrealistic body standards.">petite women"She's practically a child. Have a seat over there."</quote>As if anime or anime games are ever based in reality. Anyway it's getting away from the point they were making is that someone claimed fire emblem women* have a planetary bust sizes. It wasn't about unrealistic body standards, though they actually have a pretty large variety of body types.Anyone interested in reviewing all the characters, take a look at this wikihttps://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Fire_Emblem_Engage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 04/01/24 9:36:28 AM #325:	NoxObscuras posted... Alright, since you're so insistent on that. Let's take a look at some women from Fire Emblem Engage, shall we? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/451f674b.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3d5b0096.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f29c7dfc.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/359eeed4.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2866f070.jpg Like legitimately most of the cast has a small bust size. Only like 4 or 5 look visibly larger than A or B cup I said Fire Emblem. Also most 1 of 6 adjective mst 1 : greatest in quantity, extent, or degree the most ability 2 : the majority of Not all 1 of 4 adjective l 1 a : the whole amount, quantity, or extent of needed all the courage they had sat up all night b : as much as possible spoke in all seriousness 2 : every member or individual component of all men will go Also that last character looks like a kid. CSCA33 posted... You cant be serious. Being a work of fiction does not exempt something from impacting people and shape their beliefs, perceptions, and make lasting impressions. It's the same bullshit excuse people use to blame violent video games on real life crime. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:979673488] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted...</cite><quote>Alright, since you're so insistent on that. Let's take a look at some women from Fire Emblem Engage, shall we?https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/451f674b.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3d5b0096.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f29c7dfc.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/359eeed4.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2866f070.jpgLike legitimately most of the cast has a small bust size. Only like 4 or 5 look visibly larger than A or B cup</quote>I said Fire Emblem. Alsomost1 of 6adjectivemst 1: greatest in quantity, extent, or degreethe most ability2: the majority ofNotall1 of 4adjectivel 1a: the whole amount, quantity, or extent ofneeded all the courage they hadsat up all nightb: as much as possiblespoke in all seriousness2: every member or individual component ofall men will goAlso that last character looks like a kid.CSCA33 posted...</cite><quote>You cant be serious. Being a work of fiction does not exempt something from impacting people and shape their beliefs, perceptions, and make lasting impressions.</quote>It's the same bullshit excuse people use to blame violent video games on real life crime. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 04/01/24 10:28:01 AM #326:	Revelation34 posted... It's the same bullshit excuse people use to blame violent video games on real life crime. Dont be disingenuous, or otherwise spend some time to educate yourself so you can understand the topics and issues if you wish to contribute meaningfully, rather than promote harmful or anti-intellectual discourse. --- [click here] pronouns incoming SHE HAS PRONOUNS!>(She/Her)<CHECK OUT my PRONOUNS <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:979674076] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>It's the same bullshit excuse people use to blame violent video games on real life crime.</quote>Dont be disingenuous, or otherwise spend some time to educate yourself so you can understand the topics and issues if you wish to contribute meaningfully, rather than promote harmful or anti-intellectual discourse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cynrascal 04/01/24 10:34:26 AM #327:	Revelation34 posted... I said Fire Emblem. And they are Fire Emblem characters. You were the one who claimed that they all were busty females. Not everyone in Fire Emblem is going to look like Camilla. And if I remembered correctly, Framme is 16. So, she's not exactly a "little kid". The "little kids" in Engage are Jean, Hortensia, and kid Anna. --- Asocial, not introverted. Know the difference. Maybe those JRPGs villains were on to something about humanity being trash. <cite>Cynrascal posted [p:979674156] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>I said Fire Emblem.</quote>And they are Fire Emblem characters. You were the one who claimed that they all were busty females. Not everyone in Fire Emblem is going to look like Camilla. And if I remembered correctly, Framme is 16. So, she's not exactly a "little kid". The "little kids" in Engage are Jean, Hortensia, and kid Anna. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 04/01/24 1:39:37 PM #328:	Revelation34 posted... I said Fire Emblem. Also They are Fire Emblem characters. TC even linked to the wiki those pictures are from. But I didn't put the link because I figured you'd conveniently ignore that >_> And not sure why you're showing the definitions for most and all, when you said "almost every" Also that last character looks like a kid. She's 16, which is 1 year younger than the main character. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:979676835] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>I said Fire Emblem. Also</quote>They are Fire Emblem characters. TC even linked to the wiki those pictures are from. But I didn't put the link because I figured you'd conveniently ignore that >_>And not sure why you're showing the definitions for most and all, when you said "almost every"<quote>Also that last character looks like a kid.</quote>She's 16, which is 1 year younger than the main character. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 04/01/24 1:45:53 PM #329:	NoxObscuras posted... She's 16, which is 1 year younger than the main character. So she's a kid and the mc is a kid. And the comparison between breast sizes is being done by adults. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:979676911] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>She's 16, which is 1 year younger than the main character.</quote>So she's a kid and the mc is a kid.And the comparison between breast sizes is being done by adults. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rikishi 04/01/24 1:47:46 PM #330:	Still remember how sad everyone was when aloy character face model in Horizons zero dawn was released. Such a bad one <cite>Rikishi posted [p:979676939] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Still remember how sad everyone was when aloy character face model in Horizons zero dawn was released. Such a bad one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 04/01/24 2:20:48 PM #331:	Rikishi posted... Still remember how sad everyone was when aloy character face model in Horizons zero dawn was released. Such a bad one no one cares about those people, who are a very, very small group of "gamers" all the other gamers are embarrassed about. --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979677400] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Rikishi posted... </cite><quote>Still remember how sad everyone was when aloy character face model in Horizons zero dawn was released. Such a bad one</quote>no one cares about those people, who are a very, very small group of "gamers" all the other gamers are embarrassed about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 04/01/24 2:32:27 PM #332:	ellis123 posted... So she's a kid and the mc is a kid. And the comparison between breast sizes is being done by adults. Yeah, most of the MC's in Fire Emblem tend to be in the 16-17 range. That's just the age range they like But I'm not the one that started talking about the boob sizes of Fire Emblem characters lol --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:979677554] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>So she's a kid and the mc is a kid.And the comparison between breast sizes is being done by adults.</quote>Yeah, most of the MC's in Fire Emblem tend to be in the 16-17 range. That's just the age range they like But I'm not the one that started talking about the boob sizes of Fire Emblem characters lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 04/01/24 2:37:34 PM #333:	NoxObscuras posted... Yeah, most of the MC's in Fire Emblem tend to be in the 16-17 range. That's just the age range they like But I'm not the one that started talking about the boob sizes of Fire Emblem characters lol I know you didn't start it. It doesn't change that post 320 is explicitly to point out, as in have people compare, the breast sizes. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:979677632] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, most of the MC's in Fire Emblem tend to be in the 16-17 range. That's just the age range they like But I'm not the one that started talking about the boob sizes of Fire Emblem characters lol</quote>I know you didn't start it. It doesn't change that post 320 is explicitly to point out, as in have people compare, the breast sizes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 04/01/24 5:40:17 PM #334:	Why you guys even having a discourse about Fire Emblem breast size? The claim was that they had overly large breasts and they don't so.... GG. Chloe the only one with some decent tittage and the wiki says she's 18 --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:979680541] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Why you guys even having a discourse about Fire Emblem breast size? The claim was that they had overly large breasts and they don't so.... GG.Chloe the only one with some decent tittage and the wiki says she's 18 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 04/02/24 8:10:26 PM #335:	bump --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:979700432] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 04/03/24 4:55:27 AM #336:	CSCA33 posted... Dont be disingenuous, or otherwise spend some time to educate yourself so you can understand the topics and issues if you wish to contribute meaningfully, rather than promote harmful or anti-intellectual discourse. Nothing harmful about posting the truth. Cynrascal posted... And they are Fire Emblem characters. You were the one who claimed that they all were busty females. Not everyone in Fire Emblem is going to look like Camilla. And if I remembered correctly, Framme is 16. So, she's not exactly a "little kid". The "little kids" in Engage are Jean, Hortensia, and kid Anna. I already posted the definitions of both most and all. Go read them. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:979705534] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CSCA33 posted...</cite><quote>Dont be disingenuous, or otherwise spend some time to educate yourself so you can understand the topics and issues if you wish to contribute meaningfully, rather than promote harmful or anti-intellectual discourse.</quote>Nothing harmful about posting the truth. Cynrascal posted...</cite><quote>And they are Fire Emblem characters. You were the one who claimed that they all were busty females. Not everyone in Fire Emblem is going to look like Camilla. And if I remembered correctly, Framme is 16. So, she's not exactly a "little kid". The "little kids" in Engage are Jean, Hortensia, and kid Anna.</quote>I already posted the definitions of both most and all. Go read them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 04/03/24 9:42:06 AM #337:	We are talking about representation in media and the issues surrounding harmful stereotypes and impacts on the population. There is a wealth of research where we know these things happen from oversexualization and objectification, as well as other harmful stereotypes having impacts. You are harming the discourse to point at claims about violent video games causing an increase in crime statistics. Those kind of people such as your Christian groups misuse the facts from research about how violence in media affects people and can have harmful impacts making those claims. I was not talking about the crime rate stats going up or down. Its really sad when people refuse to educate themselves and want to misuse the information and research, harming the discourse with this kind of anti-scientific talk, spinning false narratives built on baseless assumptions and being disingenuous with the facts. Take some time to study what it means about harmful stereotypes, racism, bigotry, sexism, misogyny, and these others issues with the topic and how it affects people. There is a lot you can learn. Usually in elementary school is when they start teaching these things about what are harmful stereotypes. --- [click here] pronouns incoming SHE HAS PRONOUNS!>(She/Her)<CHECK OUT my PRONOUNS <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:979707735] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>We are talking about representation in media and the issues surrounding harmful stereotypes and impacts on the population. There is a wealth of research where we know these things happen from oversexualization and objectification, as well as other harmful stereotypes having impacts.You are harming the discourse to point at claims about violent video games causing an increase in crime statistics. Those kind of people such as your Christian groups misuse the facts from research about how violence in media affects people and can have harmful impacts making those claims. I was not talking about the crime rate stats going up or down.Its really sad when people refuse to educate themselves and want to misuse the information and research, harming the discourse with this kind of anti-scientific talk, spinning false narratives built on baseless assumptions and being disingenuous with the facts. Take some time to study what it means about harmful stereotypes, racism, bigotry, sexism, misogyny, and these others issues with the topic and how it affects people. There is a lot you can learn. Usually in elementary school is when they start teaching these things about what are harmful stereotypes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 04/04/24 1:18:22 AM #338:	CSCA33 posted... We are talking about representation in media and the issues surrounding harmful stereotypes and impacts on the population. There is a wealth of research where we know these things happen from oversexualization and objectification, as well as other harmful stereotypes having impacts. You are harming the discourse to point at claims about violent video games causing an increase in crime statistics. Those kind of people such as your Christian groups misuse the facts from research about how violence in media affects people and can have harmful impacts making those claims. I was not talking about the crime rate stats going up or down. Its really sad when people refuse to educate themselves and want to misuse the information and research, harming the discourse with this kind of anti-scientific talk, spinning false narratives built on baseless assumptions and being disingenuous with the facts. Take some time to study what it means about harmful stereotypes, racism, bigotry, sexism, misogyny, and these others issues with the topic and how it affects people. There is a lot you can learn. Usually in elementary school is when they start teaching these things about what are harmful stereotypes. I don't have any Christian groups. Also Fire Emblem was an example of oversexualization if you wanted to go that route. Especially if you play Heroes. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:979722047] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CSCA33 posted...</cite><quote>We are talking about representation in media and the issues surrounding harmful stereotypes and impacts on the population. There is a wealth of research where we know these things happen from oversexualization and objectification, as well as other harmful stereotypes having impacts.You are harming the discourse to point at claims about violent video games causing an increase in crime statistics. Those kind of people such as your Christian groups misuse the facts from research about how violence in media affects people and can have harmful impacts making those claims. I was not talking about the crime rate stats going up or down.Its really sad when people refuse to educate themselves and want to misuse the information and research, harming the discourse with this kind of anti-scientific talk, spinning false narratives built on baseless assumptions and being disingenuous with the facts. Take some time to study what it means about harmful stereotypes, racism, bigotry, sexism, misogyny, and these others issues with the topic and how it affects people. There is a lot you can learn. Usually in elementary school is when they start teaching these things about what are harmful stereotypes.</quote>I don't have any Christian groups. Also Fire Emblem was an example of oversexualization if you wanted to go that route. Especially if you play Heroes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Finis-XII 04/04/24 6:28:50 AM #339:	CSCA33 posted... We are talking about representation in media and the issues surrounding harmful stereotypes and impacts on the population. There is a wealth of research where we know these things happen from oversexualization and objectification, as well as other harmful stereotypes having impacts. You are harming the discourse to point at claims about violent video games causing an increase in crime statistics. Those kind of people such as your Christian groups misuse the facts from research about how violence in media affects people and can have harmful impacts making those claims. I was not talking about the crime rate stats going up or down. Its really sad when people refuse to educate themselves and want to misuse the information and research, harming the discourse with this kind of anti-scientific talk, spinning false narratives built on baseless assumptions and being disingenuous with the facts. Take some time to study what it means about harmful stereotypes, racism, bigotry, sexism, misogyny, and these others issues with the topic and how it affects people. There is a lot you can learn. Usually in elementary school is when they start teaching these things about what are harmful stereotypes. Just gonna chime in for a moment and let you know that people are "harming" the discourse because it's not interesting discourse. Everything you're complaining about ITT are non-issues. For decades I've been exposed to seeing handsome, ripped alpha male protagonists in video games and fiction in general. Never once have I ever thought, "Man, I'm not a jacked handsome bad-ass hunk like Nathan Drake and I probably never will be. My life is over!! :(". If seeing unrealistically attractive women in fiction destroys your self image or self-esteem like that, that's not society's problem, that's a you problem. Your side is literally just Jack Thompson all over again, and you're fighting a pointless culture war that you're not ever gonna win. You're not doing yourself or society any service or public good, you're just pissing people off who enjoy a hobby by trying to make it lame and unappealing. People like seeing beautiful/sexy and aesthetically pleasing characters in games, and fiction in general. Sex sells, bland/boring/ugly "realism" doesn't. Attractiveness is always preferred. It's human nature. It's been that way for thousands of years, and you're never going to win a culture war against it. And I do say people, because it's not just some one-sided thing against women by straight white male incel coomer gamers. It goes both ways. Women like seeing attractive guy and girl characters in games (and just fictional entertainment in general) too. Get used to it. --- 2022 GOTY: Elden Ring, Best Girl Ranni <cite>Finis-XII posted [p:979723904] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CSCA33 posted... </cite><quote>We are talking about representation in media and the issues surrounding harmful stereotypes and impacts on the population. There is a wealth of research where we know these things happen from oversexualization and objectification, as well as other harmful stereotypes having impacts.You are harming the discourse to point at claims about violent video games causing an increase in crime statistics. Those kind of people such as your Christian groups misuse the facts from research about how violence in media affects people and can have harmful impacts making those claims. I was not talking about the crime rate stats going up or down.Its really sad when people refuse to educate themselves and want to misuse the information and research, harming the discourse with this kind of anti-scientific talk, spinning false narratives built on baseless assumptions and being disingenuous with the facts. Take some time to study what it means about harmful stereotypes, racism, bigotry, sexism, misogyny, and these others issues with the topic and how it affects people. There is a lot you can learn. Usually in elementary school is when they start teaching these things about what are harmful stereotypes.</quote>Just gonna chime in for a moment and let you know that people are "harming" the discourse because it's not interesting discourse. Everything you're complaining about ITT are non-issues.For decades I've been exposed to seeing handsome, ripped alpha male protagonists in video games and fiction in general. Never once have I ever thought, "Man, I'm not a jacked handsome bad-ass hunk like Nathan Drake and I probably never will be. My life is over!! :(". If seeing unrealistically attractive women in fiction destroys your self image or self-esteem like that, that's not society's problem, that's a you problem.Your side is literally just Jack Thompson all over again, and you're fighting a pointless culture war that you're not ever gonna win. You're not doing yourself or society any service or public good, you're just pissing people off who enjoy a hobby by trying to make it lame and unappealing. People like seeing beautiful/sexy and aesthetically pleasing characters in games, and fiction in general. Sex sells, bland/boring/ugly "realism" doesn't. Attractiveness is always preferred. It's human nature. It's been that way for thousands of years, and you're never going to win a culture war against it.And I do say people, because it's not just some one-sided thing against women by straight white male incel coomer gamers. It goes both ways. Women like seeing attractive guy and girl characters in games (and just fictional entertainment in general) too. Get used to it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 04/04/24 7:10:15 AM #340:	Finis-XII posted... For decades I've been exposed to seeing handsome, ripped alpha male protagonists in video games and fiction in general. Never once have I ever thought, "Man, I'm not a jacked handsome bad-ass hunk like Nathan Drake and I probably never will be. My life is over!! :(". If seeing unrealistically attractive women in fiction destroys your self image or self-esteem like that, that's not society's problem, that's a you problem. Just a quick Google... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/247839476_The_Impact_of_Media_Exposure_on_Males'_Body_Image https://theconversation.com/body-image-issues-are-rising-in-men-research-suggests-techniques-to-improve-it-219451 https://globalnews.ca/news/8468688/men-body-image-socia-media/ https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1111/ajpy.12254#:~:text=Men%20who%20viewed%20idealised%20television,of%20body%20dissatisfaction%20in%20males. That is, it's a society problem. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979724201] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Finis-XII posted... </cite><quote>For decades I've been exposed to seeing handsome, ripped alpha male protagonists in video games and fiction in general. Never once have I ever thought, "Man, I'm not a jacked handsome bad-ass hunk like Nathan Drake and I probably never will be. My life is over!! :(". If seeing unrealistically attractive women in fiction destroys your self image or self-esteem like that, that's not society's problem, that's a you problem.</quote>Just a quick Google...https://www.researchgate.net/publication/247839476_The_Impact_of_Media_Exposure_on_Males'_Body_Imagehttps://theconversation.com/body-image-issues-are-rising-in-men-research-suggests-techniques-to-improve-it-219451https://globalnews.ca/news/8468688/men-body-image-socia-media/https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1111/ajpy.12254#:~:text=Men%20who%20viewed%20idealised%20television,of%20body%20dissatisfaction%20in%20males.That is, it's a society problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Finis-XII 04/04/24 8:05:08 AM #341:	DnDer posted... Just a quick Google... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/247839476_The_Impact_of_Media_Exposure_on_Males'_Body_Image https://theconversation.com/body-image-issues-are-rising-in-men-research-suggests-techniques-to-improve-it-219451 https://globalnews.ca/news/8468688/men-body-image-socia-media/ https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1111/ajpy.12254#:~:text=Men%20who%20viewed%20idealised%20television,of%20body%20dissatisfaction%20in%20males. That is, it's a society problem. Yeah, no...I don't buy it. Like I said, I don't live my life getting depressed at seeing attractive fictional male characters. Just like I don't go around expecting women in everyday life to look like 2B or that chick from Stellar Blade. The vast majority of people don't think like this. What's other's excuse? If you want to better your physical appearance, then go to the gym and work on yourself. And if it's making you so depressed that you're suicidal or otherwise can't function in life, seek mental help and go talk to a therapist. Trying to police popular entertainment over a small group of people's insecurities is pointless and dumb. --- 2022 GOTY: Elden Ring, Best Girl Ranni <cite>Finis-XII posted [p:979724686] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Just a quick Google...https://www.researchgate.net/publication/247839476_The_Impact_of_Media_Exposure_on_Males'_Body_Imagehttps://theconversation.com/body-image-issues-are-rising-in-men-research-suggests-techniques-to-improve-it-219451https://globalnews.ca/news/8468688/men-body-image-socia-media/https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1111/ajpy.12254#:~:text=Men%20who%20viewed%20idealised%20television,of%20body%20dissatisfaction%20in%20males.That is, it's a society problem.</quote>Yeah, no...I don't buy it. Like I said, I don't live my life getting depressed at seeing attractive fictional male characters. Just like I don't go around expecting women in everyday life to look like 2B or that chick from Stellar Blade. The vast majority of people don't think like this. What's other's excuse?If you want to better your physical appearance, then go to the gym and work on yourself. And if it's making you so depressed that you're suicidal or otherwise can't function in life, seek mental help and go talk to a therapist. Trying to police popular entertainment over a small group of people's insecurities is pointless and dumb. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Thunder 04/04/24 8:18:39 AM #342:	Finis-XII posted... Yeah, no...I don't buy it. Like I said, I don't live my life getting depressed at seeing attractive fictional male characters. Just because you are not personally affected by a problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist. --- Resident Synthwave enjoyer. Music: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv4cNOBY2eCInbxg6B-KRks6vKMfmFvtp <cite>Blue_Thunder posted [p:979724816] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Finis-XII posted...</cite><quote>Yeah, no...I don't buy it. Like I said, I don't live my life getting depressed at seeing attractive fictional male characters.</quote>Just because you are not personally affected by a problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Finis-XII 04/04/24 8:26:33 AM #343:	Blue_Thunder posted... Just because you are not personally affected by a problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's not just not my problem, it's not society's problem. I'm sure there's a problem that exists for certain kinds of individuals, but it's not the issue you think it is, nor is it the fault of those you're pointing your fingers at. Most people are not bothered by beautiful characters in fiction existing. We just enjoy the entertainment and live our lives. The rest should seek help, and stop trying to make everyone else as miserable as they are. --- 2022 GOTY: Elden Ring, Best Girl Ranni <cite>Finis-XII posted [p:979724895] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Thunder posted... </cite><quote>Just because you are not personally affected by a problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist.</quote>It's not just not my problem, it's not society's problem. I'm sure there's a problem that exists for certain kinds of individuals, but it's not the issue you think it is, nor is it the fault of those you're pointing your fingers at. Most people are not bothered by beautiful characters in fiction existing. We just enjoy the entertainment and live our lives. The rest should seek help, and stop trying to make everyone else as miserable as they are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 04/04/24 8:48:30 AM #344:	I see we have some more of that motte-and-bailey with conservative culture war crap and immorality. --- [click here] pronouns incoming SHE HAS PRONOUNS!>(She/Her)<CHECK OUT my PRONOUNS <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:979725105] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>I see we have some more of that motte-and-bailey with conservative culture war crap and immorality. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 04/04/24 10:23:47 AM #345:	Finis-XII posted... Yeah, no...I don't buy it. Like I said, I don't live my life getting depressed at seeing attractive fictional male characters. Just like I don't go around expecting women in everyday life to look like 2B or that chick from Stellar Blade. The vast majority of people don't think like this. "Here's science showing this isn't a personal problem, but an endemic condition that's created by a pervasive media culture that does shape and influence people's opinions and emotions, literally proving the 'nurture' part of 'nature vs nurture.' " "Fuck science. Just don't be depressed." My dude. Do you hear yourself? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979726355] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Finis-XII posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, no...I don't buy it. Like I said, I don't live my life getting depressed at seeing attractive fictional male characters. Just like I don't go around expecting women in everyday life to look like 2B or that chick from Stellar Blade. The vast majority of people don't think like this.</quote>"Here's science showing this isn't a personal problem, but an endemic condition that's created by a pervasive media culture that does shape and influence people's opinions and emotions, literally proving the 'nurture' part of 'nature vs nurture.' ""Fuck science. Just don't be depressed."My dude. Do you hear yourself? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 04/04/24 7:11:21 PM #346:	Finis-XII posted... Just gonna chime in for a moment and let you know that people are "harming" the discourse because it's not interesting discourse. Everything you're complaining about ITT are non-issues. For decades I've been exposed to seeing handsome, ripped alpha male protagonists in video games and fiction in general. Never once have I ever thought, "Man, I'm not a jacked handsome bad-ass hunk like Nathan Drake and I probably never will be. My life is over!! :(". If seeing unrealistically attractive women in fiction destroys your self image or self-esteem like that, that's not society's problem, that's a you problem. Your side is literally just Jack Thompson all over again, and you're fighting a pointless culture war that you're not ever gonna win. You're not doing yourself or society any service or public good, you're just pissing people off who enjoy a hobby by trying to make it lame and unappealing. People like seeing beautiful/sexy and aesthetically pleasing characters in games, and fiction in general. Sex sells, bland/boring/ugly "realism" doesn't. Attractiveness is always preferred. It's human nature. It's been that way for thousands of years, and you're never going to win a culture war against it. And I do say people, because it's not just some one-sided thing against women by straight white male incel coomer gamers. It goes both ways. Women like seeing attractive guy and girl characters in games (and just fictional entertainment in general) too. Get used to it. +10 --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:979735620] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Finis-XII posted... </cite><quote>Just gonna chime in for a moment and let you know that people are "harming" the discourse because it's not interesting discourse. Everything you're complaining about ITT are non-issues.For decades I've been exposed to seeing handsome, ripped alpha male protagonists in video games and fiction in general. Never once have I ever thought, "Man, I'm not a jacked handsome bad-ass hunk like Nathan Drake and I probably never will be. My life is over!! :(". If seeing unrealistically attractive women in fiction destroys your self image or self-esteem like that, that's not society's problem, that's a you problem.Your side is literally just Jack Thompson all over again, and you're fighting a pointless culture war that you're not ever gonna win. You're not doing yourself or society any service or public good, you're just pissing people off who enjoy a hobby by trying to make it lame and unappealing. People like seeing beautiful/sexy and aesthetically pleasing characters in games, and fiction in general. Sex sells, bland/boring/ugly "realism" doesn't. Attractiveness is always preferred. It's human nature. It's been that way for thousands of years, and you're never going to win a culture war against it.And I do say people, because it's not just some one-sided thing against women by straight white male incel coomer gamers. It goes both ways. Women like seeing attractive guy and girl characters in games (and just fictional entertainment in general) too. Get used to it.</quote>+10 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 04/04/24 7:25:13 PM #347:	deoxxys posted... +10 Is the the damage counter from the hit to the strawman? --- [click here] pronouns incoming SHE HAS PRONOUNS!>(She/Her)<CHECK OUT my PRONOUNS <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:979735835] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>+10</quote>Is the the damage counter from the hit to the strawman? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drrobotniks 04/04/24 7:26:44 PM #348:	CSCA33 posted... Is the the damage counter from the hit to the strawman? No he's saying he's agreeing with him and thinks he's right <cite>Drrobotniks posted [p:979735858] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CSCA33 posted... </cite><quote>Is the the damage counter from the hit to the strawman?</quote>No he's saying he's agreeing with him and thinks he's right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 04/04/24 7:26:46 PM #349:	For men it's hard to avoid being self-conscious about balding. Is it really hard to believe that media has impacted this perception? --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:979735861] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>For men it's hard to avoid being self-conscious about balding. Is it really hard to believe that media has impacted this perception? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 04/04/24 7:32:30 PM #350:	deoxxys posted... +10 How many times did he say I in that wall of text exactly? Believe it or not it's not all about him or you for that matter. Congrats! You don't have have image problems because of the pressures of media. Your experience is not the experience of everyone on Earth. --- She/Her <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:979735957] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>+10</quote>How many times did he say I in that wall of text exactly? Believe it or not it's not all about him or you for that matter.Congrats! You don't have have image problems because of the pressures of media. Your experience is not the experience of everyone on Earth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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