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LiquidOshawott 03/10/24 10:09:37 PM #201: |
Are all you NSMB Wii voters clamoring for a switch port
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notdave 03/10/24 10:11:51 PM #202: |
SMB
SMB3 SMW Super Mario 64 --- ND ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedJeezy 03/10/24 10:21:14 PM #203: |
Super Mario World
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Hbthebattle 03/10/24 11:14:41 PM #204: |
LiquidOshawott posted...
Are all you NSMB Wii voters clamoring for a switch portAlright if the answer is "things people want to be ported" I want to see your Galaxy 2 vote --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacArrowny 03/10/24 11:17:13 PM #205: |
Hbthebattle posted...
Alright if the answer is "things people want to be ported" I want to see your Galaxy 2 voteMost of the other picks are on Switch! --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mythiot 03/10/24 11:21:22 PM #206: |
Super Mario Bros. Super Mario Bros. 3 Super Mario 64 Super Mario Galaxy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yesmar_ 03/10/24 11:41:25 PM #207: |
Super Mario Bros.
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LiquidOshawott 03/10/24 11:43:12 PM #208: |
Hbthebattle posted...
Alright if the answer is "things people want to be ported" I want to see your Galaxy 2 vote well its more if you think it had such a strong footprint you should yearn for the opportunity to replay it if we just went off of sales, then Lion King 2019 would make a Disney Rushmore and Lion King 1994 wouldnt, but nobody would think that way because the former doesnt have the same footprint the latter did. --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VeryInsane's mobile account ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skulltrumpets 03/11/24 12:15:01 AM #209: |
Super Mario Bros. Super Mario Bros. 3 Super Mario 64 Mario Kart 8 Kind of wish there would be a second Rushmore for spinoffs only. It hurts not to include TTYD even though I can't justify including it. I do not get the NSMB love especially compared to the Galaxy games. And yet that was the one that got discussions lol if I didn't feel like MK had to be represented I would put Galaxy 1 in its place. I asked my girlfriend her opinion on the poll, partially because I feel like weddings should be planned by both parties and partially because she's a big Sonic fan. The Drowning music option made her laugh a lot, but she ended up going with Live and Learn. LaL was my second choice initially, but I voted for it because it's an option we are both happy with ^^; Bring on more scenarios like this, it made me laugh. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WhiteLens 03/11/24 12:52:53 AM #210: |
LiquidOshawott posted...
Are all you NSMB Wii voters clamoring for a switch port I would gladly have a port/remake of NSMB1, 2, and Wii if it means having them on not dead systems. --- FFXIV - Faerie Server: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/5086952/ F/GO: 271551102; Bleach Brave Souls: 56688058 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nanis23 03/11/24 1:02:06 AM #211: |
Leonhart4 posted...
Mario 1 --- wololo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 03/11/24 3:14:09 AM #212: |
NSMB2 is on the Switch, with full YEAR OF LUIGI edition. the DS and Wii ones haven't been ported yet but that seems like an obvious triple pack for the successor which should totally happen.
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KanzarisKelshen 03/11/24 3:28:14 AM #213: |
Yeah I feel like 'why didn't you ask for a port' doesn't apply when a successor game exists and is recent
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Leonhart4 03/11/24 3:40:05 AM #214: |
Because nobody cares, Sean
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LightningStrikes 03/11/24 7:00:44 AM #215: |
Leonhart4 posted...
Yeah, 2-D Mario wasn't "dead." This is an absolutely wild take. Are we just pretending that the first two NSMB games werent widely acclaimed by critics and the general audience now. Leonhart4 posted... Because nobody cares, Sean I mean the massive success of U Deluxe would disprove this. A Wii remaster would do extremely well on Switch. There is a lot of love for New Super Mario Bros Wii out there. As for Final Fantasy, its a very different situation for that series but one that does highlight the value of breakout games like New Super Mario Bros Wii. The fact is FF is a series that has heavily declined. Its been hard carried by the MMOs for years. Even 7R only (partially) turned the series fortunes around critically, the broader brand picture is still one of decline. I dont know if its bern discussed in the Rebirth topic because Im not going in there until I finish it, but the early Rebirth sales data is not good. The series simply failed to stay in the public consciousness when the gaming audience was expanding and got lost in the shuffle (and the Playstation exclusivity isnt helping). Which is really what New Super Mario Bros Wii achieved. The fact is, Sunshine did not do what it was supposed to and it looked like Super Mario (ie the main series) was falling behind other Nintendo top dogs like Smash and Pokmon. The GBA ports also sold well but didnt do top flight numbers. Galaxy did better, but the attach rate wasnt great (I believe the worst for a first entry). It was New Super Mario Bros Wii that turned it around at a really pivotal moment in gaming history. And if you dont get that moment you wind up where FF is now, making some great games but clearly fallen from where you used to be. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LiquidOshawott 03/11/24 7:04:47 AM #216: |
Wanglicious posted...
NSMB2 is on the Switch, with full YEAR OF LUIGI edition. the DS and Wii ones haven't been ported yet but that seems like an obvious triple pack for the successor which should totally happen. KanzarisKelshen posted... Yeah I feel like 'why didn't you ask for a port' doesn't apply when a successor game exists and is recent if there is a successor game that you all think outclasses it then why arent you voting for the successor game especially if you are voting for MK8 Deluxe I dont know if the logic works other than Sales! --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VeryInsane's mobile account ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningStrikes 03/11/24 7:08:47 AM #217: |
I mean for me I would make the same argument against World. I think Wii was the breakout and although U is the better game it wasnt as notable because it was just polishing and iterating on Wii.
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LiquidOshawott 03/11/24 7:14:22 AM #218: |
LightningStrikes posted...
I mean for me I would make the same argument against World. I think Wii was the breakout and although U is the better game it wasnt as notable because it was just polishing and iterating on Wii. I just dont see any of the games having as much of a carbon footprint in the gaming industry as the big 4 If we did a Nintendo Mount Rushmore you would have to at least consider any of them. Especially with their respective consoles. Would NSMB Wii make the Wii Mount Rushmore? I actually dont think so. actually lets nominate Wii games (system) lets find out --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VeryInsane's mobile account ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningStrikes 03/11/24 7:25:21 AM #219: |
I dont even agree that thats a big 4. Maybe its a big 3 but I really dont see the case for both Bros 3 and World for the same reason you said. And yeah I agree, lets do it.
Nominate Games for the Wii. Personally I would put New Super Mario Bros Wii at #3 on that list. The fourth spot is up for grabs but I would lean towards --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LiquidOshawott 03/11/24 7:33:06 AM #220: |
I dont think there is a clear consensus that World > 3. Its like asking if Brawl is better than Melee.
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Leonhart4 03/11/24 7:35:03 AM #221: |
Galaxy 1 is still one of the highest rated games ever so it gets to be the Mario rep
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LightningStrikes 03/11/24 7:39:14 AM #222: |
I mean at the risk of litigating the Wii Rushmore too early Im not sure about Galaxy given that 2 was as acclaimed and it just didnt make the splash you would think it would given the reception. I genuinely think this is a part of why Galaxy isnt as strong as other big contemporary Nintendo games or Odyssey in contests. It didnt actually feel as impactful as you would think. Truly excellent game btw, but surprisingly oft forgotten.
Edit: Though just to say, not downplaying Galaxy, it did a tremendous job at repairing the brand damage Sunshine did and re-established the series at the top level of critical reception. Its in contention! --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bitto 03/11/24 7:47:23 AM #223: |
All you Mario Kart 8 voters better be voting for Just Dance when we do Wii Rushmore
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Leonhart4 03/11/24 7:57:28 AM #224: |
All right fine, we can have two Mario entries
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MacArrowny 03/11/24 8:59:12 AM #225: |
LightningStrikes posted...
Are we just pretending that the first two NSMB games werent widely acclaimed by criticsTheir reviews were substantially worse than Sunshine's. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningStrikes 03/11/24 9:08:36 AM #226: |
True (well, not really substantially) but so were review scores in general. In 2002 9s were handed out like candy because tech was valued so highly. You had Jeff Gerstmann giving Sunshine an 8 when he straight up didnt like the game because thats how the mathematical formula they used at the time worked out.
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Seanchan 03/11/24 9:09:13 AM #227: |
Maybe it's just my age and not growing up with and playing them over and over (like I did with 3 and World), but I have no recollection of any stages/worlds from the "New" games. I generally enjoyed them at the time, but it's really only the general look of the games that stuck with me.
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ctesjbuvf 03/11/24 9:23:00 AM #228: |
The fact that Galaxy 2 was as critically acclaimed as it was is super impressive considering it just polished level design.
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HaRRicH 03/11/24 10:27:15 AM #229: |
LiquidOshawott posted...
If we did a Nintendo Mount Rushmore you would have to at least consider any of them. Especially with their respective consoles. Would NSMB Wii make the Wii Mount Rushmore? I actually dont think so. Agreeing with this. Maybe NSMBW makes it on in a Rushmore-setting, but as far as Mario-favorites go I would predict it to be the third-favorite Mario game on the Wii. That's largely why I'm cynical about it being on a Mario-Rushmore if it's #3 among Mario games on just the Wii. Open to the case I guess -- Summoning Salt did cover the game before, so it's got some sense of community. We'll see. --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hylianknight3 03/11/24 10:43:40 AM #230: |
Nominate Wii games
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KommunistKoala 03/11/24 11:36:11 AM #231: |
Super Mario Bros.
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Dancedreamer 03/11/24 11:36:32 AM #232: |
Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Bros. 3 Super Mario Kart Super Mario 64 --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 03/11/24 11:47:47 AM #233: |
I dont think its a contradiction for someone to vote NSMB here but not on a Wii poll. Any NSMB vote is here to represent that era of Mario, which for a lot of people is THE default Mario. Its a lot more important for Mario than it is for the Wii.
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pjbasis 03/11/24 12:12:15 PM #234: |
Wanglicious posted...
NSMB2 is on the Switch, with full YEAR OF LUIGI edition. You mean NSMBU right --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raka_Putra 03/11/24 12:17:27 PM #235: |
Super Mario Bros.
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ZenOfThunder 03/11/24 12:46:52 PM #236: |
I started my new job and this guy has a bunch of Mario figures on his desk. It took every ounce of my willpower not to ask him what 4 games he thinks should be on the Mario Rushmore
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Waluigi1 03/11/24 12:47:41 PM #237: |
Do it!!
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Leonhart4 03/11/24 12:51:08 PM #238: |
ZenOfThunder posted...
I started my new job and this guy has a bunch of Mario figures on his desk. It took every ounce of my willpower not to ask him what 4 games he thinks should be on the Mario Rushmore Willpower is overrated --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WhiteLens 03/11/24 12:54:28 PM #239: |
Wanglicious posted...
NSMB2 is on the Switch, with full YEAR OF LUIGI edition. the DS and Wii ones haven't been ported yet but that seems like an obvious triple pack for the successor which should totally happen. Listen, I know that NSMB2 is considered the worst of the NSMB games, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/3ds/667819-new-super-mario-bros-2 ZenOfThunder posted... I started my new job and this guy has a bunch of Mario figures on his desk. It took every ounce of my willpower not to ask him what 4 games he thinks should be on the Mario Rushmore Ask him as an icebreaker question. Good way to get familiar with a fellow colleague. --- FFXIV - Faerie Server: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/5086952/ F/GO: 271551102; Bleach Brave Souls: 56688058 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZenOfThunder 03/11/24 12:56:02 PM #240: |
Just a heads up this topic is probably gonna take much longer to tally because of how big it is. I might make the next topic when I get home then tally later tonight when I wind down and post the results in the discussion topic
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Wanglicious 03/11/24 12:58:55 PM #241: |
i legit forgot it had a 3ds sequel.
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HaRRicH 03/11/24 1:15:21 PM #242: |
KanzarisKelshen posted...
SMB1 I've returned back to this post a few times and respect the framing. If no other 2D game's impacted 2D platformers like SMB1, and if no other 3D game's impacted 3D platformers like SM64, in this framing, does it even make sense to get other reps like them? Ranging from SMB3 to Wonder, from Galaxy to Odyssey...in that framing, do you need another rep? I get that argument and am riffing from here for the other two. Mario Kart an undeniably influenced kart racers so I think a rep is appropriate in this context. We can argue about which one, but whatever. So far this lines up with my votes anyway so cool. That fourth spot...I voted World, right, but also if the ideas's about how other games were impacted by Mario...shew. it might be Mario Party -- huge series of its own, plus other party games like Fusion Frenzy and Fall Guys fit this vein from after the original Party-trilogy. Did these kinds of multiplayer minigame-collections exist much before 1999? Even other Nintendo variations like Remix and WarioWare. Have we seen an influx of game creators since Mario Maker? Mega Man Maker comes to mind, but that's a fan project. Little Big Planet beat Mario Maker to the punch here too but it seems to have faded off. No particular Mario Sports game stands out to me in this framing. Like...maybe Golf on the NES? Think that had Mario in it, but eeeeeeeeh. SMRPG was huge but I don't think it's influence on the likes of South Park: the Stick of Truth is enough. Maybe this is bigger than I'm realizing though. I think Smash would be the answer if it counted, but it doesn't and I don't think it should count. I guess I'm stuck wondering now if you get away from platformers and kart-racers if Mario Party is the most influential Mario game on the industry. --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lordjers 03/11/24 1:32:53 PM #243: |
Mario 3 and World are in because those are the games the rest of 2D Mario are measured against. When 3 came out it was as if kids forgot 1 (the monumental original) even existed. Games that keep the franchise super strong are just as important as comeback games. If they belong roughly to the same era well tough luck, that Mario era was just super strong.
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KanzarisKelshen 03/11/24 1:35:00 PM #244: |
it might be Mario Party -- huge series of its own, plus other party games like Fusion Frenzy and Fall Guys fit this vein from after the original Party-trilogy. Did these kinds of multiplayer minigame-collections exist much before 1999? Even other Nintendo variations like Remix and WarioWare. This is actually a really good question and I have no answer to it. Mario Party 1 might honestly be the game that proved 'hey, minigames!' was a real gaming genre. If so, it would be the really obvious inclusion for the fourth slot, but I'm not sure the genre wasn't established before it. Likewise, SMRPG is credited as 'the first RPG that actually sold in the west' but the existence of Final Fantasy 4 (and 1, even) makes me wonder if that was actually true. Mario history is gaming history to such a degree that I would kill for a gaming historian's takes on this, actually. --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 03/11/24 1:37:58 PM #245: |
lordjers posted...
Mario 3 and World are in because those are the games the rest of 2D Mario are measured against. When 3 came out it was as if kids forgot 1 (the monumental original) even existed. Games that keep the franchise super strong are just as important as comeback games. If they belong roughly to the same era well tough luck, that Mario era was just super strong.why do we need 2 2D Mario games to measure others against if you guys argue 2D Mario post-World is irrelevant 3D Mario is more popular now, so shouldn't we have a 3D rep that functions as a yardstick like Galaxy? --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 03/11/24 1:44:46 PM #246: |
I mean we do
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Omniscientless 03/11/24 5:53:36 PM #247: |
Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Bros. 3 Super Mario 64 Mario Kart 8 Deluxe --- Surskit ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZenOfThunder 03/11/24 6:20:37 PM #248: |
I am currently tallying, I tallied just Page 1 and we have a tie for 1st and a tie for 4th so I won't be closing this and posting the next day in case I need to make a tiebreaker poll. This is the last like 15 min to vote if you havent already
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ZenOfThunder 03/11/24 6:39:44 PM #249: |
SeabassDebeste posted...
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