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Kradek
03/07/24 8:18:32 PM
#101:


thronedfire2 posted...
if they're getting paid

They are, it's why the RNC only had 8m on hand for ALL REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES when McDaniel left because Trump has been using it and PAC donations as a personal slush fund for his legal fees.

He has no problem paying out money when it's not his.

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DrizztLink
03/07/24 8:46:55 PM
#103:


I give it until March 26 before he violates the gag order.

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Strider102
03/07/24 8:49:09 PM
#104:


DrizztLink posted...
I give it until March 26 before he violates the gag order.

That's too long.

I give it a day

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blacklabelice
03/07/24 8:55:39 PM
#105:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/de406fd1.jpg

my name is reek

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Cynyn
03/07/24 9:01:48 PM
#106:


DrizztLink posted...
It's been

One week since you defamed me

83 million bucks to say you're sorry
Goddamnit XD

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DragulaRULEZ
03/07/24 9:01:54 PM
#107:


Coming to MAGAStoreClownPenis.Fart, "Jury Members with Crosshairs On Their Heads" TV Shirts, Mugs, & Mud Flaps.

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King_Rial
03/07/24 9:04:24 PM
#108:


"Freeze peach!!!! I'm not inciting anyone to attack these traitors to America. Even though we used to hang those kinds of people."

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Shotgunnova
03/07/24 9:07:39 PM
#109:


blacklabelice posted...
my name is reek
lmao

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CADE_FOSTER
03/07/24 10:12:53 PM
#110:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC-3ThZXpi8

I hope this doesnt happen

Jan. 6 defendants may go free after appeals court ruling

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Tyranthraxus
03/08/24 12:59:44 AM
#111:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
Jan. 6 defendants may go free after appeals court ruling

Nobody is going free, they're just getting sentence reductions at best

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JasonSehorn
03/08/24 1:02:06 AM
#112:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Nobody is going free, they're just getting sentence reductions at best
they already had short fucking sentences thats the problem
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Umbreon
03/08/24 1:23:22 AM
#113:


JasonSehorn posted...
they already had short fucking sentences thats the problem

The fact that they're seeing the light of day ever again is an injustice.

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GTA1984
03/08/24 2:20:54 AM
#114:


CableZL posted...


* Criminal trial starts 3/25/2024. Trump will be required to be in the courtroom every day of the trial. He'll probably behave like a petulant child again.

Trump may be in for a rude awakening if he does. At the end of a civil trial there won't be a conviction and no one will be going to prison as punishment. As a result judges are a bit more lenient with behavior and try to avoid putting someone in jail for contempt.

A criminal trial is a different animal. First of all Trump will have to be there every day. Second criminal trials are a lot more restrained than a civil. Things like storming out of the courtroom or raising his hand for a jury question will not fly. Even out of courtroom behavior such as attacking witnesses can be seen as trying to influence the jury. Also judges at criminal trials don't have any problems locking someone up for contempt.

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008Zulu
03/08/24 3:17:41 AM
#115:


How much has his debt counter gone up?

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DragulaRULEZ
03/08/24 3:42:48 AM
#116:


https://twitter.com/TrumpDebtClock/status/1765513333652754833

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TomClark
03/08/24 7:12:55 AM
#117:


CableZL posted...
https://Twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1765862219982508442?s=46

Pay up, bitch

That first paragraph is the most eloquent way of saying "He fucked around, now he's finding out" that I have ever seen.

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ReiRei89
03/08/24 10:48:45 AM
#119:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Fat fuck is going to lose the appeal and money.

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blacklabelice
03/08/24 10:48:58 AM
#120:


https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1766125792067457322

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littlebro07
03/08/24 10:49:58 AM
#121:


Thanks, Elon!

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mystic_belmont
03/08/24 10:51:03 AM
#122:


Another $91 million lost for Musk.

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Tyranthraxus
03/08/24 10:51:42 AM
#123:


Who is the dumbass that gave him a bond lmao

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Ruvan22
03/08/24 10:58:40 AM
#125:


Is there any confirmation of Musk paying the bond?
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Block_that_Kick
03/08/24 11:01:35 AM
#126:


That is bullshit.

https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1766126002827149721

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ThePieReborn
03/08/24 11:03:10 AM
#127:


The surety is Federal Insurance Company, which is a subsidiary of Chubb Corporation, which is a big insurance company. They were one of my old firm's primary insurer clients when I was doing insurance defense.

Don't think Musk is financially involved, but he may have greased some wheels.

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Tyranthraxus
03/08/24 11:03:40 AM
#128:


Block_that_Kick posted...
That is bullshit.

https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1766126002827149721

Oh man we gonna have a presidential candidate 93 million dollars in debt to an unknown party.

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CADE_FOSTER
03/08/24 11:04:27 AM
#129:


Fucking piece of shit always gets off
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ThePieReborn
03/08/24 11:04:59 AM
#130:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

He gets one appeal as of right to the Second Circuit. Any further review is discretionary by either the Second Circuit sitting en banc or SCOTUS.

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CableZL
03/08/24 11:15:00 AM
#131:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
Fucking piece of shit always gets off
This is not Trump getting away with anything. He had to put up the full bond to appeal. Given his track record, it's not likely that he will come up with the legal grounds to win on appeal.

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Tyranthraxus
03/08/24 11:23:07 AM
#132:


ThePieReborn posted...
He gets one appeal as of right to the Second Circuit. Any further review is discretionary by either the Second Circuit sitting en banc or SCOTUS.
If the second circuit dismisses the appeal with prejudice can he still go to SCOTUS?

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ThePieReborn
03/08/24 11:23:53 AM
#133:


CableZL posted...
This is not Trump getting away with anything. He had to put up the full bond to appeal. Given his track record, it's not likely that he will come up with the legal grounds to win on appeal.
I do want to emphasize this bit. There are few issues in this case that are subject to de novo review, which means the appellate court considers the issue without regard for the district court's conclusions. Most errors raised will be subject to review for abuse of discretion (usually regarding evidentiary matters and will not be reversed absent a fairly obvious misapplication of the law) and clear error review (usually regarding fact finding, and the factual conclusions basically need to be wholly unsupported by the evidence).

These are generally steep standards of review that are difficult to win on appeal. I'll wait and see what the briefs say, but I don't expect success that will overturn the verdict and judgment.

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ThePieReborn
03/08/24 11:25:59 AM
#134:


Tyranthraxus posted...
If the second circuit dismisses the appeal with prejudice can he still go to SCOTUS?
Dismissal of an appeal rarely happens, and usually applies only where there is substantial noncompliance with appellate procedure.

If you're talking about the Second Circuit affirming the judgment, the higher review is fully discretionary.

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Tyranthraxus
03/08/24 11:27:26 AM
#135:


ThePieReborn posted...
Dismissal of an appeal rarely happens, and usually applies only where there is substantial noncompliance with appellate procedure.

If you're talking about the Second Circuit affirming the judgment, the higher review is fully discretionary.
Nah I meant dismissal. While I wouldn't put it past Trump to fuck it up that much I doubt he'll get the process itself wrong.

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Ruvan22
03/08/24 11:32:03 AM
#136:


ThePieReborn posted...
The surety is Federal Insurance Company, which is a subsidiary of Chubb Corporation, which is a big insurance company. They were one of my old firm's primary insurer clients when I was doing insurance defense.

Don't think Musk is financially involved, but he may have greased some wheels.

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GTA1984
03/08/24 11:41:41 AM
#137:


If Trump loses and he pays up, the money goes back to FIC. If he doesn't pay up then Carrol gets the bond and then FIC will start trying to get whatever he put as collateral.

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ThePieReborn
03/08/24 11:43:51 AM
#138:


GTA1984 posted...
If Trump loses and he pays up, the money goes back to FIC. If he doesn't pay up then Carrol gets the bond and then FIC will start trying to get whatever he put as collateral.
This is correct.

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mystic_belmont
03/08/24 11:45:40 AM
#139:


ThePieReborn posted...
This is correct.

Well, whatever the state doesn't take.

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blacklabelice
03/08/24 11:59:47 AM
#140:


GTA1984 posted...
If Trump loses and he pays up, the money goes back to FIC. If he doesn't pay up then Carrol gets the bond and then FIC will start trying to get whatever he put as collateral.


I can just see FIC execs screaming out "What the fuck are we supposed to do with a trailer full of sneakers, trump bucks, and NFT superhero trading cards? Hey, we've been invited to attend a fundraising dinner for Rudy. $1 million per plate. Sweet deal!"

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darkace77450
03/08/24 12:10:07 PM
#142:


https://apnews.com/article/republican-national-committee-trump-whatley-legal-fees-53402f8e8ac845db3cf4ab82c882ea74

The Republican National Committee voted Friday to install Donald Trumps handpicked chair, completing his takeover of the national party as the former president closes in on a third straight presidential nomination.

Michael Whatley, a North Carolina Republican who has echoed Trumps false theories of voter fraud, was elected the partys new national chairman in a vote Friday morning in Houston. Lara Trump, the former presidents daughter-in-law, was expected to become co-chair.

Trumps team is promising not to use the RNC to pay his mounting personal legal bills. But Trump and his lieutenants will have firm control of the partys political and fundraising machinery with limited, if any, internal pushback.

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CADE_FOSTER
03/08/24 12:15:10 PM
#143:


So he takes all the money and republicans lose cuz they cant campaign I'm here for it
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UnholyMudcrab
03/08/24 12:16:33 PM
#144:


darkace77450 posted...
Trumps team is promising not to use the RNC to pay his mounting personal legal bills.
Lmao, that's all the RNC exists for at this point

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Tyranthraxus
03/08/24 12:27:22 PM
#145:


Trump is finally draining the swamp's bank accounts into his own.

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EPR-radar
03/08/24 12:28:54 PM
#146:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
So he takes all the money and republicans lose cuz they cant campaign I'm here for it
I wish. But even when Trump robs the RNC blind, that won't really affect the GOP money machine, since that's all dark money superpac shit as enabled by the awful Citizens United decision.

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mystic_belmont
03/08/24 12:29:16 PM
#147:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
Lmao, that's all the RNC exists for at this point

https://patimes.org/the-scorpion-and-the-frog-a-fable-for-contemporary-times/

About halfway across the river, the scorpion raised its tail and stung the frog. The frog was both astounded and disconsolate. Why did you sting me? Now I will die and you will surely drown and die also.
The scorpion replied, I cant help it. Its who I am. Its in my nature.

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Alucard188
03/08/24 12:34:05 PM
#148:


Block_that_Kick posted...
That is bullshit.

https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1766126002827149721

That's fine. The NYAG needs to know where the money came from. The rest of us don't. Just keep track of where the money comes from and where it goes.

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King_Rial
03/08/24 1:35:52 PM
#149:


https://twitter.com/SwissWatchGuy/status/1766152040449708102

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mystic_belmont
03/08/24 1:41:52 PM
#150:


Well, goodbye to anything not nailed down.

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