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ScazarMeltex
03/07/24 3:34:55 PM
#51:


mystic_belmont posted...
I'm not sure how him being demoted affects his retirement, since he is retired.

The military uses the average of your three highest paying years to determine how much you get in retirement. That would likely be when he was an Admiral. Demoting him will not affect that at all.

Now, if the Navy wanted to, they could recall him to active duty and then push for court martial or some other form of punishment. I don't see that as happening.
That actually depends on when they enlisted. In the old, old, version your pay was based on your final rank. At least in the Army, not sure about the Navy.

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DragulaRULEZ
03/07/24 4:13:33 PM
#52:


mystic_belmont posted...
Rear Admiral
Hehehehoo!

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mystic_belmont
03/07/24 4:21:44 PM
#53:


Supposedly if you are demoted after retirement, the navy uses the average of the demoted ranks pay.

So, he served for 24 years, and thus would get 60% of the pay he was receiving. O6 get $13,348 per month ($8,008.8 per month for his retirement), while O7 get $15,504 ($9,302.4 per month for his retirement).

So, there is some financial pain.

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EPR-radar
03/07/24 4:23:40 PM
#54:


Starks posted...
Trump doctors tend to be sycophants. That doesn't go for everyone, especially those at Walter Reed, but they enable him.
It's a pity Trump went to real doctors (instead of Ronny Jackson et al.) when he had covid.

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CableZL
03/07/24 5:12:02 PM
#55:


https://Twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1765862219982508442?s=46

Pay up, bitch

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King_Rial
03/07/24 5:16:47 PM
#56:


That's some tasty shit right there. He tries to act like the rules don't apply to him. Pay. Up.

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DrizztLink
03/07/24 5:17:50 PM
#57:


I need someone to edit the "where money" meme to have Carroll's face.

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mystic_belmont
03/07/24 5:19:38 PM
#58:


I thought Trump was rich? Didn't he say under oath he had like $400 million in liquid cash?

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CableZL
03/07/24 5:21:49 PM
#59:


mystic_belmont posted...
I thought Trump was rich? Didn't he say under oath he had like $400 million in liquid cash?
Yes

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Umbreon
03/07/24 5:23:29 PM
#60:


Trump is rich when it benefits him and poor when he needs to pay anyone or wants more donations.

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Starks
03/07/24 5:23:40 PM
#61:


His liquid wealth under oath is in line with expectations and analysts.

If he needs more, he has to sell properties or get foreign loans.

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ClayGuida
03/07/24 5:24:17 PM
#62:


CableZL posted...
After the Pentagon inspector general faulted him for creating a hostile work environment and drinking and taking drugs while on duty
Imagine a job where this isn't an offense worthy of termination.

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darkace77450
03/07/24 5:25:45 PM
#63:


mystic_belmont posted...
I will say though, being demoted after you retired is not a good look.

Neither is telling the world that Donald Trump is a model of fitness. Ronny Jackson obviously doesn't care about appearances to those of us outside the Cult.
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mystic_belmont
03/07/24 5:26:00 PM
#64:


ClayGuida posted...
Imagine a job where this isn't an offense worthy of termination.

It's incredibly difficult to get demoted after retiring.

Like, you have to be that much of an asshole.

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mystic_belmont
03/07/24 5:31:05 PM
#65:


Guess who is trying to get a new lawyer for his Carroll case?

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/carroll-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc#entry-314

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blacklabelice
03/07/24 5:32:52 PM
#67:


Trump loses bid to delay $83.3 million E. Jean Carroll judgment

  • Donald Trump lost a bid to delay paying an $83.3 million civil defamation judgment to writer E. Jean Carroll.
  • Trump had asked Manhattan federal Judge Lewis Kaplan to delay the judgment from taking effect until after he rules on post-trial motions in the case.


Donald Trump on Thursday lost a bid to delay paying an $83.3 million civil defamation judgment to writer E. Jean Carroll.

The ruling by Manhattan federal Judge Lewis Kaplan means Trump by Monday must either pay that amount to Carroll, or put up a bond or assets to cover the value of the judgment while he appeals the verdict that he defamed Carroll after she accused him of rape.

Trump had asked Kaplan to delay the judgment from taking effect until after he rules on post-trial motions in the case.
Kaplan in an order Thursday rejected that request, writing that Trumps current situation is a result of his own dilatory actions.

In addition to the Carroll case, Trump also has been ordered to pay a $454 million judgment in a civil business fraud lawsuit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James.

Trump has not yet been forced to pay that amount or put up collateral to secure the judgment. But that soon could change if an appeals court refuses to stay the judgment.

Trump, who is the presumptive Republican nominee for president, in another Manhattan federal civil trial last year was found to have sexually abused Carroll and defamed her in comments he made in 2022.

He later posted $5.6 million in cash as collateral while he appealed the jury verdict ordering him to pay her $5 million in that case.

Both last years trial and the most recent trial related to Carrolls claim that Trump in the mid-1990s raped her in a dressing room at the Bergdorf Goodman in Manhattan after a chance meeting at that department store.

Trump denied raping the writer, and alleged she had made up the claim in order to promote sales of a book she was writing and to harm him politically.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/07/trump-loses-bid-to-delay-83point3-million-e-jean-carroll-judgment.html


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mystic_belmont
03/07/24 5:36:20 PM
#68:


If you want the judge to do you a favor, try not to do everything you can to insult him.

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CSCA33
03/07/24 5:36:36 PM
#69:


staying in the loop ~

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EPR-radar
03/07/24 6:02:05 PM
#70:


CableZL posted...
https://Twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1765862219982508442?s=46

Pay up, bitch
I like how the judge uses "Mr. Trump" repeatedly, instead of that godawful "President Trump" crap.

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mystic_belmont
03/07/24 6:04:44 PM
#71:


EPR-radar posted...
I like how the judge uses "Mr. Trump" repeatedly, instead of that godawful "President Trump" crap.

Usually you use the most senior position someone had in government when referring to them (such as referring to Haley as Ambassador Haley); however, Trump is such an asshole ad an insurrectionist, that he isn't worthy of that.

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CableZL
03/07/24 6:33:12 PM
#72:


https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/status/1765882324120387713

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jefffan
03/07/24 6:36:09 PM
#73:


One week

How is she going to screw this up

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DrizztLink
03/07/24 6:37:24 PM
#74:


jefffan posted...
One week

How is she going to screw this up
It's been

One week since you defamed me

83 million bucks to say you're sorry

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BewmHedshot
03/07/24 6:38:07 PM
#75:


mystic_belmont posted...
Guess who is trying to get a new lawyer for his Carroll case?

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/carroll-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc#entry-314
Is this simply a delaying tactic? "Oh your Honor I would so love to pay my fines but my new lawyer needs seven thousand years to review the case and I couldn't possible continue until the Sun goes red giant" something like that? I can't think of any other reason for Trump to reach out to some lawyer from bumblefuck Missouri.
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mystic_belmont
03/07/24 6:41:42 PM
#76:


BewmHedshot posted...
Is this simply a delaying tactic? "Oh your Honor I would so love to pay my fines but my new lawyer needs seven thousand years to review the case and I couldn't possible continue until the Sun goes red giant" something like that?

It might be, but one Kaplan probably saw a mile away and will deny.

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CableZL
03/07/24 6:45:50 PM
#77:


https://Twitter.com/katiephang/status/1765878542301044905?s=46

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King_Rial
03/07/24 6:47:04 PM
#78:


Dang! He gets more time! But more importantly, I have to potentially wait longer to see how this plays out.

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Block_that_Kick
03/07/24 6:48:45 PM
#79:


Meanwhile, in Michigan, we have a criminal on the loose.

https://twitter.com/CraigDMauger/status/1765870526491234796

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mystic_belmont
03/07/24 6:51:14 PM
#80:


King_Rial posted...
Dang! He gets more time! But more importantly, I have to potentially wait longer to see how this plays out.

Well, it's going to be a miserable weekend for Trump.

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CableZL
03/07/24 6:56:05 PM
#81:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Meanwhile, in Michigan, we have a criminal on the loose.

I had forgotten about her. There's so much to keep track of.

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CableZL
03/07/24 6:57:20 PM
#82:


mystic_belmont posted...
Well, it's going to be a miserable weekend for Trump.
A miserable few months.
  • E. Jean Carroll payment due on 3/11/2024
  • New York civil fraud trial payment due on 3/25/2024
  • Criminal trial starts 3/25/2024. Trump will be required to be in the courtroom every day of the trial. He'll probably behave like a petulant child again.

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mystic_belmont
03/07/24 7:03:42 PM
#83:


CableZL posted...
Criminal trial starts 3/25/2024. Trump will be required to be in the courtroom every day of the trial. He'll probably behave like a petulant child again.

So there is a chance we get another Darrell Brooks out of this?

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ThePieReborn
03/07/24 7:15:44 PM
#85:


That first response has no idea how appeals and standards of review work.

Love to see it.

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mystic_belmont
03/07/24 7:17:26 PM
#86:


Yes, if Trump pays out Carroll and then wins on appeal, he can get back what he paid out.

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Irony
03/07/24 7:20:40 PM
#87:


Hope the RNC is ready to pay

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DrizztLink
03/07/24 7:20:55 PM
#88:


Irony posted...
Hope the RNC is ready to pay
They are not.

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mystic_belmont
03/07/24 7:21:00 PM
#89:


Irony posted...
Hope the RNC is ready to pay

With what money?

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Irony
03/07/24 7:22:08 PM
#90:


mystic_belmont posted...
With what money?
All the money they said they'd pay which won't cover it.

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Heineken14
03/07/24 7:26:59 PM
#91:


ThePieReborn posted...
That first response has no idea how appeals and standards of review work.

Love to see it.

If these morons knew how things worked, they wouldn't be Donnie supporters to begin with. lol

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ClayGuida
03/07/24 7:29:59 PM
#92:


Heineken14 posted...
If these morons knew how things worked, they wouldn't be Donnie supporters to begin with. lol
This pretty much sums up Trump supporters.

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thronedfire2
03/07/24 7:34:51 PM
#93:


has he even paid her any money yet?

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mystic_belmont
03/07/24 7:43:00 PM
#94:


thronedfire2 posted...
has he even paid her any money yet?

He paid the original $5 million, but that is it.

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King_Rial
03/07/24 7:48:40 PM
#95:


Heineken14 posted...
If these morons knew how things worked, they wouldn't be Donnie supporters to begin with. lol


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Takuya_Lee
03/07/24 7:50:08 PM
#96:


Irony posted...
Hope the RNC is ready to pay

They don't have any money. 45 is drawing away donors to him.

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thronedfire2
03/07/24 7:50:30 PM
#97:


mystic_belmont posted...
He paid the original $5 million, but that is it.

his lawyers must be pissed

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King_Rial
03/07/24 7:56:40 PM
#98:


thronedfire2 posted...
his lawyers must be pissed
Why? They got paid millions for cases they knew he was going to lose.

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Kradek
03/07/24 8:05:11 PM
#99:


Bandit_Keith posted...
From what I understand, it was likely to be moved there anyway, even if he got the indictment in DC. It would have been all of the delays you see in his DC case on top of Trump delaying it even more with his attempt to get the case moved to Florida. And all of this would be slower because of the slower DC Circuit of appeals to begin with.

The way I've heard it explained he could have tried it in either.

The Sixth Amendment entitles criminal defendants to a trial by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed. The gist of the reported charges of violating the Espionage Act and of conspiring to obstruct the grand jury investigation occurred in Florida, even though there may well have been connections to Washington, D.C. Continuing offensesthose begun in one district and continued in anothermay be tried in either.

https://verdict.justia.com/2023/06/09/why-jack-smith-might-bring-a-second-trump-indictment-in-d-c

ScazarMeltex posted...
Liberals obsession with appearances and civility will be death of all us. It doesn't matter what anyone does here, the chuds are going to scream bias and persecution no matter what.

I'm not saying railroad him, but everyone involved needs to stop treating him like a good faith actor and giving him time to drag this shit out. Treat him like what he is, a wanna be fascist who tried to overthrow the government because he was butthurt he lost an election. Treat him like someone who then took classified documents and refused to return them.

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thronedfire2
03/07/24 8:11:04 PM
#100:


King_Rial posted...
Why? They got paid millions for cases they knew he was going to lose.

if they're getting paid

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