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CyricZ
03/12/24 6:58:19 PM
#251:


Welp.

They're literally calling it GamerGate 2.

We're back boys.

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hockeybabe89
03/12/24 6:59:41 PM
#252:


If Remedy is wrong, I don't want to be right.

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Enclave
03/12/24 7:03:55 PM
#253:


CyricZ posted...
Welp.

They're literally calling it GamerGate 2.

We're back boys.

It's SUPER fucking dumb, shit wouldn't have blown up if that employee wasn't shit tweeting so much.

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Raiden2909
03/12/24 7:31:10 PM
#254:


To sum it up, Its the new target from the "Anti-Woke" chud brigade to get people riled up and grift donations while targeting groups they dont like for harassment... Like Women, Minorities, LGBTQ people
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megamanfreakXD
03/13/24 4:03:14 AM
#255:


Mere hours after series creator Akira Toriyama's death was announced, they made a rather flippant tweet about black representation in Dragon Ball.


LOL

Fuck this company. Because of this I am 100% subbing to the group.

Absolutely disrespectful and out of touch.

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Punished_Blinx
03/13/24 4:54:40 AM
#256:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/49c66a2b.jpg
Welp.

Another example to add to the pile of social media being trash.

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DarthAragorn
03/13/24 9:11:04 AM
#257:


megamanfreakXD posted...
LOL

Fuck this company. Because of this I am 100% subbing to the group.

Absolutely disrespectful and out of touch.
Didn't know you were a chud, that's disappointing

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Zwijn
03/13/24 9:12:29 AM
#258:


DarthAragorn posted...
Didn't know you were a chud, that's disappointing
That GameFAQs. Im adding people to my chud list daily. Im at like 55 or something. System boards seem to be their nests but sometimes they go mask off here too.
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-ZIO-
03/13/24 9:19:50 AM
#259:


I don't have the bandwidth to care much about this. Fortunately this topic is about as much as I heard of it, so obviously this new movement isn't going anywhere.

If it's anything like the original, it's probably very very stupid.

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NeonOPPAl
03/13/24 9:21:19 AM
#260:


I still don't even know what Gamer Gate 1 was about >_> Apparently some chick that slept with reviewers to get good scores for her game or something?

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Trelve
03/13/24 9:24:18 AM
#261:


Zwijn posted...
That GameFAQs. Im adding people to my chud list daily.
I thought making lists was harassment? Sweet Baby thinks so at least.
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Zwijn
03/13/24 9:25:45 AM
#262:


NeonOPPAl posted...
I still don't even know what Gamer Gate 1 was about >_> Apparently some chick that slept with reviewers to get good scores for her game or something?
That was debunked and even if it were true it would have just been an excuse, it was just an outlet for a bunch of incels to vent about women.
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Bass_X0
03/13/24 9:26:27 AM
#263:


DarthAragorn posted...
Didn't know you were a chud, that's disappointing

Respecting Akira Toriyama is what makes someone a chud now?

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Zwijn
03/13/24 9:27:09 AM
#264:


Trelve posted...
I thought making lists was harassment? Sweet Baby thinks so at least.
I cherrypick when it suits me. Leftist agendas are unironically a good thing to me. It doesnt matter to me when a bunch of chuds get called out.
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Cynrascal
03/13/24 9:34:41 AM
#265:


DarthAragorn posted...
Didn't know you were a chud, that's disappointing

Straight up insulting a man's work under the flimsy excuse of "R3PR3S3|\|+@+I0|\|" after a man's death is despicable.

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SpiritSephiroth
03/13/24 10:04:39 AM
#266:


Whoever insulted Akira Toriyama can sincerely go fuck themselves.

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DarthAragorn
03/13/24 10:23:49 AM
#267:


Bass_X0 posted...
Respecting Akira Toriyama is what makes someone a chud now?
No, the "joining an incel chud group" part is what makes someone a chud.

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Trelve
03/13/24 10:27:41 AM
#268:


DarthAragorn posted...
No, the "joining an incel chud group" part is what makes someone a chud.
The words incel, chud and woke have lost all meaning, haven't they? It's now just "something I dislike"
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SpiritSephiroth
03/13/24 10:30:09 AM
#269:


I'm not American, wtf is a chud?

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Phantom_Nook
03/13/24 10:36:50 AM
#270:


They're literally admitting this is Gamergate 2? Lol, fuck this.

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NeonOPPAl
03/13/24 10:37:46 AM
#271:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
I'm not American, wtf is a chud?
I'm American and I dont even know what it is

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Bass_X0
03/13/24 10:38:21 AM
#273:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
I'm not American, wtf is a chud?

a meaningless buzzword that people use to refer to people they dont like. It should be used for people who are actually physically unattractive but it gets thrown around towards anyone now

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DarthAragorn
03/13/24 10:38:43 AM
#274:


Trelve posted...
The words incel, chud and woke have lost all meaning, haven't they? It's now just "something I dislike"
They're calling themselves gamergate 2 my dude

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Revelation34
03/13/24 10:43:53 AM
#276:


hockeybabe89 posted...

Did they write anything? As someone else mentioned, this kind of gig seems more like a grift than anything of actual substance. Some great games are supposedly bad because of... whatever the hell it is they actually do.


They are credited as writers so yes.

NoxObscuras posted...

That's not what consulting is. They aren't writing the games for these companies. They're giving advice. Sometimes it's simply reviewing the game, so that the developer has a better idea on how the game will be received by the public. Sometimes it's advice on how to optimize the coding and improve performance. Or advice about community engagement. Or advice about marketing the game. And so on and so forth.

There's a lot of little things that can be consulted on and it's often good to have an external pair of eyes. They'll see things the internal team won't.

There's a lot of these companies in the industry and what they help on varies considerably. So I can understand Sweet Baby trying to shut down a Steam page that's coming up with all kinds of lies to blame them for games failing. Like Suicide Squad failed because of the always online monetization. That wasn't Sweet Baby's doing. That was all WB, and the CEO has even announced that they'll be doing more love service games.

Sweetbaby is just a convenient scapegoat for the bigots, nothing more


They are credited as writing so yes they are.

DarthAragorn posted...

Didn't know you were a chud, that's disappointing


Lol.

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Trelve
03/13/24 10:47:20 AM
#277:


Phantom_Nook posted...
They're literally admitting this is Gamergate 2? Lol, fuck this.
Sweet Baby are trying to paint it as such in order to get sympathy. It's literally just a Steam curator list with 15(?) titles that they worked on. No-one's been harassed (well, apart from SBI trying to get the owner of the list banned from Steam)

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Murphiroth
03/13/24 10:50:30 AM
#278:


Why did there need to be a list of their games to begin with? Y'all still haven't managed to explain how they supposedly make games bad.

The employee being a shithead is shitty and something they shouldn't have done but going "Oh ho hum it was just an innocent list!" is fuckin' laughable.
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Revelation34
03/13/24 11:05:14 AM
#279:


Murphiroth posted...
Why did there need to be a list of their games to begin with? Y'all still haven't managed to explain how they supposedly make games bad.

The employee being a shithead is shitty and something they shouldn't have done but going "Oh ho hum it was just an innocent list!" is fuckin' laughable.


A list is just a list. That's it. It doesn't state anything other than what they worked on.

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Enclave
03/13/24 11:25:22 AM
#280:


Murphiroth posted...
Why did there need to be a list of their games to begin with? Y'all still haven't managed to explain how they supposedly make games bad.

The employee being a shithead is shitty and something they shouldn't have done but going "Oh ho hum it was just an innocent list!" is fuckin' laughable.

It's a dumb thing to make a list about but there's no problem with such a list existing.

That shit tweeting employee made things blow up so damn much. I'm actually a bit surprised they haven't been let go due to their shit tweeting making the company look bad.

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loafy013
03/13/24 11:31:26 AM
#281:


Bass_X0 posted...
a meaningless buzzword that people use to refer to people they dont like. It should be used for people who are actually physically unattractive but it gets thrown around towards anyone now
Have you seen trump supporters? They fit your definition of chud to a T.

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Samus0075
03/13/24 11:36:52 AM
#282:


They are basically a company that messes up games . Look at sales anything that the company is involved wih does not do well .
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OudeGeuze
03/13/24 11:37:33 AM
#283:


Samus0075 posted...
They are basically a company that messes up games . Look at sales anything that the company is involved wih does not do well .
Yeah Baldurs Gate 3 sure flopped

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Heavy_D_Forever
03/13/24 11:39:13 AM
#284:


OudeGeuze posted...
Yeah Baldurs Gate 3 sure flopped
The Sweet Baby website has no mention of them working on BG3 lmao

They clearly outline which games they worked on and what their input was.

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Murphiroth
03/13/24 11:39:42 AM
#285:


Heavy_D_Forever posted...
The Sweet Baby website has no mention of them working on BG3 lmao

Alan Wake 2 and Spider-Man 2, such flops!
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Murphiroth
03/13/24 11:40:02 AM
#286:


Revelation34 posted...
A list is just a list. That's it. It doesn't state anything other than what they worked on.

Why?
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Nemu
03/13/24 11:40:30 AM
#287:


Samus0075 posted...
They are basically a company that messes up games . Look at sales anything that the company is involved wih does not do well .
I don't know why people keep saying that. They work on way too wide of a variety of games to make any conclusion. From their CEO basically admitting they have no intrinsic value and their employees having embarrassing meltdowns, I don't think they're a company that provides an actual valuable service, but there's no way to actually quantify the effect they've had on games.
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Heavy_D_Forever
03/13/24 11:43:01 AM
#288:


Murphiroth posted...
Alan Wake 2 and Spider-Man 2, such flops!
Alan Wake 2 was incredible because that is Remedy's pet project and I doubt SBI really had much of an impact.

Spider-Man 2 had a shitty story and SBI likely did have a large input on that outcome.

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Samus0075
03/13/24 11:48:51 AM
#289:


A scum group that had the nerve to make fun of the passing of Akira Toriyama !!
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Samus0075
03/13/24 11:50:44 AM
#290:


Hours After 'Dragon Ball' Creator's Death Made Public, Sweet Baby Inc. Writer Attempts To Shame Akira Toriyama Over Mr. Popo's Design - Bounding Into Comics
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Murphiroth
03/13/24 11:51:01 AM
#291:


Heavy_D_Forever posted...
Alan Wake 2 was incredible because that is Remedy's pet project and I doubt SBI really had much of an impact.

Spider-Man 2 had a shitty story and SBI likely did have a large input on that outcome.

Ah so they're Schrodinger's game consultants. If they work on a game and it's good, it's in spite of SBI. If they work on a game and it's bad, it's definitely 100% due to SBI. So convenient!

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Zwijn
03/13/24 11:53:14 AM
#292:


This group insulted my favorite comic creator in bad taste, now I will join this group of people who in bad faith just made a list because they wont stand for videogames that dare represent women and minorities in a positive light. You guys are kidding nobody. Enjoy the future of gaming.
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McMarbles
03/13/24 11:59:36 AM
#293:


Samus0075 posted...
Hours After 'Dragon Ball' Creator's Death Made Public, Sweet Baby Inc. Writer Attempts To Shame Akira Toriyama Over Mr. Popo's Design - Bounding Into Comics
Ah, yes, totally nonbiased source Bounding Into Comics.

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McMarbles
03/13/24 12:00:57 PM
#294:


Zwijn posted...
This group insulted my favorite comic creator in bad taste, now I will join this group of people who in bad faith just made a list because they wont stand for videogames that dare represent women and minorities in a positive light. You guys are kidding nobody. Enjoy the future of gaming.
It's like that one comic. "You were mean to me. Now I have to be a racist! You gave me no choice!"

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SpiritSephiroth
03/13/24 12:01:17 PM
#295:


McMarbles posted...
Ah, yes, totally nonbiased source Bounding Into Comics.

That's what happened though, regardless of the source.

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Revelation34
03/13/24 12:10:41 PM
#296:


Murphiroth posted...


Why?


That's an incomplete sentence to the quoted post.

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NoxObscuras
03/13/24 12:40:37 PM
#297:


Trelve posted...
It's literally just a Steam curator list with 15(?) titles that they worked on. No-one's been harassed (well, apart from SBI trying to get the owner of the list banned from Steam)

Revelation34 posted...
A list is just a list. That's it. It doesn't state anything other than what they worked on.
"It'S jUsT a LiSt"

The Creator of that list:

SBI forces political agendas and DEI into their games; its pretty clear to everybody at this point, yet the Kotaku article tries to say that they simply do not, that all this diversity stuff in games is actually natural. This couldnt be further from the truth.

I started thinking of doing something about it, something to help the gaming community organize and make a stand against SBI and this culture of theirs. So, I went to Paint, made the first logo in, like, three minutes, googled how to create a curator page on Steam, and did it.
Just a list though right? No agenda there... Nope.

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dancing_cactuar
03/13/24 12:48:09 PM
#298:


hockeybabe89 posted...
If Remedy is wrong, I don't want to be right.
They did wrong all by themselves by selling out to Epic so on PC you can only get Alan Wake 2 on the Epic Games Store, thus guaranteeing one lost sale because I'm not touching that fucking store with a 10 foot pole. Alan Wake 1 was mid as fuck anyways.

Nemu posted...
From their CEO basically admitting they have no intrinsic value and their employees having embarrassing meltdowns, I don't think they're a company that provides an actual valuable service, but there's no way to actually quantify the effect they've had on games.
I mean the devs had to spend money to hire them as script doctors, so if they truly offer a service with no value then the devs are literally wasting money. So when Remedy says that they had to go pan handle to Epic because they got no money, and then they immediately spend money on an allegedly worthless service, I'm just thinking of that dril tweet about spending $3.6k on candles.

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MC_BatCommander
03/13/24 12:50:08 PM
#299:


Gamers being gamers

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Enclave
03/13/24 12:56:21 PM
#300:


NoxObscuras posted...
"It'S jUsT a LiSt"

The Creator of that list:

Just a list though right? No agenda there... Nope.

I mean, yeah, it is just a list. It's a really fucking stupid reason to make the list but it is just a list rather than a targeted harassment campaign.

If that idiot employee didn't themselves start trying to harass the list creator and wasn't always shit posting on twitter then the list would probably have like 100 morons on it and nobody would have even known it existed.

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