Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 411: Presidential Election MMXX Rebirth

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The unbiased Israel take from....the self proclaimed Israeli?

Actually even that's giving him too much benefit, because the leadership and IDF approval rating IN Israel by Israelis is currently in the fucking tank.

Nanis23 posted...

I have been reading the constant bullshit spouted in those politics topics in the last few months but decided not to take part in them because -
1.Arguing with leftists is pointless. You are such a lost cause
2.As a Israeli, I, myself, and every other Israeli, should not see any reason to "give excuses". I have no reason to "apologize" on behalf of the IDF doing their best to ensure we can live here. I am not going to apologize that I don't want another 7th October massacare to happen.
If you ever think that any Israeli is going to think about apologzing to you, you can go fuck yourself, because that won't happen

Imagine believing Pallywood propaganda. Imagine being the same people that believed the "ISRAEL BOMBED THE HOSPITAL AND 600 PEOPLE DIED" also believe the same bullshit story that was posted today despite zero facts.
Like, do you learn nothing? or you don't want to learn anything because you are so blinded with hate towards Israel that you don't care about the facts?

No one asked you to apologize, dumb ass. In fact we didn't ask you anything.

A zionist talking about propaganda. Snort.

Oh he's actually full in it.

Oof.

No one is advocating for Israel ceasing to exist.

We are advocating that Palestinians SHOULD continue to exist.

Similarly no one is defending what happened to Israel in October. It was terrible and there should be consequences.

But responding to 1500~ casualties with 30,000 is not the way. And more than half of that 30k is thought to be civilians.

Nanis23 posted...

I don't have the truth either

Nanis23 posted...

You are more than welcome to keep crying over Israel victory :)

Pretty confident about what happened for someone who doesn't know the truth.

imagine being that excited over a genocide and calling it "victory"

that's a yikes

I like how when someone uses words like leftist you just know theyre pro other people suffering as long as its not them no matter what the reasons are

I mean lets be clear, every single B8er (unless we have a few from small island nations maybe) has had their countrys government do horrible things, including for most of those countries war crimes, during our lifetimes. You definitely shouldnt be automatically supporting it just because its (the government of) your country. I mean, we were all around for the Iraq War. And like the Iraq War in 20 years I suspect it will be hard to find somebody in Israel who supports what the IDF have done.

the Israel/palestine stuff is so wild to me because its the epitome of both governments suck but this one sucks more followed by how dare you pick a side!!!!!1!!

Also I think everybody here supports a two state solution. Nobody thinks Israel should not exist. There also arent any viable solutions other than that.

Being anti genocide in 2024 is a hot issue for some

LightningStrikes posted...

Also I think everybody here supports a two state solution. Nobody thinks Israel should not exist. There also arent any viable solutions other than that.

Tbf there's an unbiased reason for that

LightningStrikes posted...

I mean lets be clear, every single B8er (unless we have a few from small island nations maybe) has had their countrys government do horrible things, including for most of those countries war crimes, during our lifetimes. You definitely shouldnt be automatically supporting it just because its (the government of) your country. I mean, we were all around for the Iraq War. And like the Iraq War in 20 years I suspect it will be hard to find somebody in Israel who supports what the IDF have done.

There is one aspect to the Iraq War that will age better than what's going on now. The US actually went after their stated human targets.

Well yeah in sheer percentage death toll this is already worse than Iraq and its only been four months. That was 150k violent deaths until 2006 (overall death toll eg due to infrastructure and healthcare damage is much higher of course) against a population of about 40 million, or 0.375%. This is 30k against a population of 2 million, or 1.5%, in a tenth of the time. So you would hope even moreso that nobody would be supporting this war after its over.

I'm sure the best way to ensure another October 7th never happens is to just piss off every last person in Gaza, driving them to the point of starvation and desperation, murdering their children, and treating them as inhumanely as possible. No possible way that could backfire. Nope.

Dancedreamer posted...

I'm sure the best way to ensure another October 7th never happens is to just piss off every last person in Gaza, driving them to the point of starvation and desperation, murdering their children, and treating them as inhumanely as possible. No possible way that could backfire. Nope.

Its not worked every other time its been tried in human history, but THIS time!

"We just don't want any more terrorism," says government that keeps pressing the 'create conditions for terrorism' button.

LightningStrikes posted...

Its not worked every other time its been tried in human history, but THIS time!

*Insert Tobias and Lindsay meme*

Kenri posted...

"We just don't want any more terrorism," says government that keeps pressing the 'create conditions for terrorism' button.

Don't forget the "helps the terrorism get funding and support" button!

Meanwhile, Israeli spokespeople are saying legitimately psychotic shit like this:

https://twitter.com/eylonalevy/status/1763244265528823935?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

also funny as hell to see Nanis screaming about Pallywood, way to give the game away dude, you cant be trusted about anything regarding your country ever again.

An eyewitness told CNN that though large crowds were waiting for food to be distributed from the trucks, the chaos and confusion that led to people being hit by themonly started once Israeli soldiers opened fire.

An Israeli official told CNN troops did use live fire on the people surrounding an aid truck

...I mean, this isn't a did Han shoot first situation. Han is telling us he shot first.

Not_an_Owl posted...

I think there's a very good chance they give him immunity just based on the math of the court. Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are Trump appointees and Clarence Thomas is Clarence Thomas, so really it just comes down to Roberts and Alito. I think Roberts probably sides with the liberals on this but I can't even be sure of that, and I'd give better than even odds Alito votes for immunity, even if it's in a very limited "Trump has immunity but no other president does or will and this does not set precedent" kind of way.

Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are not voting to give presidents immunity. I think this is probably a 9-0 decision, but if it's not, only Thomas and Alito have any real chance of jumping through the mental hoops necessary to carve out an exception for Trump.

red_sox_777 posted...

I think this is probably a 9-0 decision

Funniest thing anyone's said in a long time here.

Obviously Cornyn sucks, but if you want to mine some salt, check the replies to this:

https://twitter.com/johncornyn/status/1762994251573404153?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Obviously Cornyn sucks, but if you want to mine some salt, check the replies to this:

https://twitter.com/johncornyn/status/1762994251573404153?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

I went to see what the non-verifieds were saying in contrast for shits and giggles and it doesn't even load enough messages to get to those. What a great site it has become.

Let's get some levity back in here

Financial records and surveillance footage was used to track down four suspects, a group made up of three males and one female. Tyler Boebert was identified as a suspect wearing a "Shooters Grill" hoodie.

The former owner of the Shooters Grill restaurant in Rifle was Lauren Boebert.

but also

Tyler Boebert "supposedly made a sex tape" with a fellow suspect who was a female minor, according to an affidavit following his arrest. The same minor said the tape was sent around to people they knew.

kevwaffles posted...

I went to see what the non-verifieds were saying in contrast for shits and giggles and it doesn't even load enough messages to get to those. What a great site it has become.

Yet another reason to not bother with a twitter account. Not being able to view full threads is a bit annoying I guess, but good fucking riddance to replies lmao

https://twitter.com/decensorednews/status/1763056787559780603

grim.

I'm no fan of press secretaries, but that just looked like a stutter to me.

i could write it off as that if it wasn't three separate instances between two different people, two occurring on the same day

israeli officials already balk at the idea of a palestine existing, so it doesn't seem a stretch to me that there are people in government that moderate their language to appease them

https://twitter.com/breakingnews/status/1763335044788076907?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

#NotTheOnion?

Maybe a good move in terms of optics as long as Trump doesn't actually accept (which he won't)

Kenri posted...

Maybe a good move in terms of optics as long as Trump doesn't actually accept (which he won't)

Yeah this is just Biden making it more clear that nothing is happening with the border 100% because of Republicans.

And Trump has already made it clear he wants the border to get worse until after the election. So no worry he will agree.

They apparently removed a Community Note for the headline, which is "so shocking".

"Working together" in this case means "invites opponent to say the same thing as him".

Musk himself just yesterday attacked the border deal as being way too lenient (or, as I believe he put it making "invasion level immigration permanent") so I wouldn't be surprised if he's personally messing with things on this front - like the time he removed a (accurate) community notes on a GOP candidate that lied about his military record when said candidate complained to him.

Some more news with an amazing 90 minute video explaining why it's a genocide tbh

if you want a story with layers like an onion have i got one for you

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/missouri-gop-moves-toss-honorary-member-ku-klux-klan-governors-race-rcna141237

A Republican candidate for Governor of Missouri - named McClanahan had a picture surface of him giving the Nazi salute alongside a man in KKK robes in front of a cross burning (and not like some shit from the 70s or 80s, 2019.)

When confronted about it his defense was... I am just going to take some select quotes from the article to show:

NBC News reports

In the suit, McClanahan described himself as a "Pro-White man," but he said he is "not and never has been" a member of the KKK. He was, however, "provided an Honorary 1-year membership" by the group's state coordinator.

McClanahan said he "did attend in 2019 a private religious Christian Identity Cross lighting ceremony falsely described as a cross burning" in the ADL article.

In lighter news, we gon' be rich boys!
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/01/economy/millennials-richest-generation-in-history/index.html

However, over the next twenty years, Millennials are poised to inherit some $90 trillion of assets and become the richest generation in history but only the ones who already come from affluent families, potentially deepening wealth inequality further.

Oh, never mind.

Some other choice lines:

Theres evidence, he said, that the following generation, Gen Z, may be more comfortable renting a home, leasing a vehicle and living a subscription lifestyle than prior generations.

Because they can't fucking afford to buy because...

This group of uber-wealthy individuals finds property an attractive investment, the report found. About 19% of this group plans to invest in commercial real estate this year, while 22% plans to buy residential property.

...the "uber" fucking rich are the only ones able to do so, and the trend continues to tighten over time.

In general, every successive generation becomes the richest generation in history. But not until they are in the 50s/60s age range, and that is becoming later. So millennials becoming the richest generation in history at some point is about as surprising as real estate and stocks being higher than they were 30 years ago - i.e. not surprising at all.

Unless the claim is that Gen X is going to be skipped over? As in, the crown for richest generation would pass directly from Baby Boomers to Millennials without Gen X spending any time in the #1 spot? I suspect that's possible if measured in total assets because the Baby Boomer and Millennial generations have significantly more total people in them than Gen X. But it would still be surprising to me.

"may be more comfortable renting" is a fun way to say "only feasible option is renting"

Even renting is getting way too expensive. More likely to say theyll be squatting

15 years from now: "Gen Alpha may be more comfortable forgoing material comforts, fasting, and living a homeless lifestyle than prior generations."

checking in with the "intellectual dark web"

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f92a77c2.jpg

lmao

Someone explain to me why even some left leaning people get really pissed when people call Peterson out for being cringe as fuck.

Because he may be the most embarrassing human.

before he went completely insane there was a constituent of people (mostly young men) who derived a lot of use out of his self-help book and they still can't really see past that

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Someone explain to me why even some left leaning people get really pissed when people call Peterson out for being cringe as fuck.

Same reason those 'left leaning people' are like "I'd totally vote for Nikki Haley over Joe Biden because she's a moderate"

People are profoundly stupid, and that's why our country is so utterly fucked.

Those people for sure exist, but I'm convinced most online 'leftists' are bots.