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Nemu
02/14/24 10:04:49 AM
#50:


The major consoles have been transitioning to specialty cheap PCs the last couple generations. With how lackluster they've been this generation and the heavy focus on PC/multi-platform, I think the landscape is going to massively change either next generation or the generation after if the PS6 and Xwhatever are already too far into development. Nintendo will just continue being Nintendo unless they pull another Wii U with the Switch 2.
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--Zero-
02/14/24 10:06:46 AM
#51:


Should have a good 4 years left lol. They on drugs.

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Solar_Crimson
02/14/24 10:07:03 AM
#52:


bigblu89 posted...
PlayStation was 1996
1994/95, actually.

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radical_rhino
02/14/24 10:08:53 AM
#54:


Cant wait to buy a PS5 this year! I have a list of ~10 games to get.

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Starks
02/14/24 10:08:53 AM
#53:


The PS5 is aging faster because handhelds are about to start outperforming it.

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apocalyptic_4
02/14/24 10:18:16 AM
#55:


That's sad.

Might as well of skipped this generation with a ps4 and you wouldn't be missing out on much.

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JaiCSC
02/14/24 10:19:22 AM
#56:


I have absolutely zero business acumen whatsoever. But what sense does it make to spend 10s of millions in R&D for a new console when there is still money to be made in the current one? It had a slow start thanks to pandemic and economic crisis. It wasn't dead in the water like the Wii U was. Or the Virtual boy.

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Dark_twisted
02/14/24 10:20:02 AM
#57:


Well yeah PS5 Pro is coming this year so they're not wrong.

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DuuuDe14
02/14/24 10:22:46 AM
#58:


Console generations usually last around 7 years. Ps5 released in 2020, it is now 2024. So it's fair to say this is the latter half of its cycle. Latter and late are two very different words.


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CARRRNE_ASADA
02/14/24 10:22:49 AM
#59:


Starks posted...
The PS5 is aging faster because handhelds are about to start outperforming it.

Well at least the switch 2 is surely not going to...power wise

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Starks
02/14/24 10:23:18 AM
#60:


The PS5 Pro might as well be a new console considering all the changes.

The only reason it's not a PS6 is because it still has the Zen 2 cores. But the GPU is very upgraded.

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Freddie_Mercury
02/14/24 10:31:08 AM
#61:


cant wait to pay another $600 so I can play more remasters of PS3/PS4 games

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ai123
02/14/24 10:38:01 AM
#62:


From the article:

Looking ahead, PS5 will enter the latter stage of its life cycle, Matsuoka is quoted as saying

'Will enter', not 'has entered'. And if that means the PS5 will be in the second half of it's lifespan, that gives it the expected 7-8 years.

Whether that lifespan has been a successful one . . .


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thisworld
02/14/24 10:51:00 AM
#63:


JaiCSC posted...
I have absolutely zero business acumen whatsoever. But what sense does it make to spend 10s of millions in R&D for a new console when there is still money to be made in the current one?

New console? As in PS6? PS5Pro or whatever the upgrade will be shouldn't really count as "new" unless they roll out a new instruction set architecture along with it.
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Solar_Crimson
02/14/24 11:11:26 AM
#64:


JaiCSC posted...
I have absolutely zero business acumen whatsoever. But what sense does it make to spend 10s of millions in R&D for a new console when there is still money to be made in the current one? It had a slow start thanks to pandemic and economic crisis. It wasn't dead in the water like the Wii U was. Or the Virtual boy.
Companies immediately start work on their following console after the newest one launches, or even right before it launches.

You think they just plan and put together like a year before launch? These consoles take several years to put together.

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bigblu89
02/14/24 11:13:42 AM
#65:


Solar_Crimson posted...
1994/95, actually.
Typo.

But still, 6 years seems to be the lifecycle for a PlayStation, so to see it being mention in 2024 that a console launched in 2020 is at about it's halfway point shouldn't be a big surprise.

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pnut027
02/14/24 11:13:55 AM
#66:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Its an unfortunate side effect of backwards compatibility + relatively minor generational upgrades.

We become complacent due to the larger library. At the end, we finally realize not many new or exclusive games were actually released.

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C_Pain
02/14/24 11:15:00 AM
#67:


PraetorXyn posted...
The Switch was past its prime when it released. It literally has mobile hardware that was 2 or 3 years old by the time it came out.
Imagine thinking it's about the tech and not the feelings it evokes

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Will_VIIII
02/14/24 11:18:35 AM
#68:


bigblu89 posted...
PlayStation was 1996
It was 1994 wasn't it?

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Will_VIIII
02/14/24 11:19:34 AM
#69:


Also lol

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games

Many of these are also timed exclusives and Astro's Playroom is a glorified tech demo

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LeoRavus
02/14/24 11:20:04 AM
#70:


Looking ahead, PS5 will enter the latter stage of its life cycle, Matsuoka is quoted as saying.

Yeah, like everything else? No one said it's IN the later stage right now. The thing's barely 3 years old. It's a console not a GPU.

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PaintGimmick
02/14/24 11:31:36 AM
#71:


LeoRavus posted...
Looking ahead, PS5 will enter the latter stage of its life cycle, Matsuoka is quoted as saying.

Yeah, like everything else? No one said it's IN the later stage right now. The thing's barely 3 years old. It's a console not a GPU.

You're not suggesting that IGN deliberately used a misleading headline in order to get traffic on their article? You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and mislead people??

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boxoto
02/14/24 11:36:57 AM
#72:


^ it didn't; the topic title did.

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Torgo
02/14/24 11:42:27 AM
#74:


Mine just collects dust

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Ivynn
02/14/24 11:43:34 AM
#75:


Already? lmao

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hereforemnant
02/14/24 11:46:31 AM
#76:


Damn_Underscore posted...
Regular people dont have money to waste and rich people didnt become rich by wasting money
Original steam deck models went on sale when the OLEDs came out, & anyone that can budget properly & works regularly can make room for both in a year or twos time. Having a PS5/Steam Deck literally lets you be able to play 99% of anything that's good & it's arguably the best combo of systems in the market if you game as any sort of frequent hobby. Rich people are buying Mercedes Benz & BMWs or traveling so we're not talking about them.

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Will_VIIII
02/14/24 11:49:19 AM
#77:


Switch and PC is actually the best combination since Microsoft is putting everything on PC and Sony has been releasing their exclusives on it later on.

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hereforemnant
02/14/24 11:51:18 AM
#78:


Will_VIIII posted...
Switch and PC is actually the best combination since Microsoft is putting everything on PC and Sony has been releasing their exclusives on it later on.
So why does switch play into this when it plays like ass & is outdated? Tiny storage & poor performance, the steam deck can be much more easily upgraded & won't be completely voided warranty wise if you do(AFAIK)
You gave 0 pros for a switch when emulation exists so I don't understand what good reasons it has anymore now that good handheld PCs exist

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Will_VIIII
02/14/24 11:54:13 AM
#79:


hereforemnant posted...
So why does switch play into this when it plays like ass & is outdated? Tiny storage & poor performance, the steam deck can be much more easily upgraded & won't be completely voided warranty wise if you do(AFAIK)
You gave 0 pros for a switch when emulation exists so I don't understand what good reasons it has anymore now that good handheld PCs exist
Ugh, the contrarian gimmick again

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SauI_Goodman
02/14/24 11:58:54 AM
#80:


Lol what ps6 won't even be out for at least 8 years.

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hereforemnant
02/14/24 11:59:22 AM
#81:


Will_VIIII posted...
Ugh, the contrarian gimmick again
Several other people dumped on the switch in here as well & this late into it's life, there's very little reason to get one over a Steam Deck or ROG Ally & so on. Sounds like you're being the contrary one since it's very likely a "switch 2" comes out this year & we have no idea of the backwards compatibility or UI yet. Buying a current gen switch this year would be a bad purchase. Maybe just look in the mirror about being contrarian when you replied to me with a counter to what I said lol

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-ZIO-
02/14/24 12:00:56 PM
#82:


This console gen has been absolutely embarrassing.

They're not making a good case as to WHY to HAVE THEM. Despite 2023 being a historic year in gaming with amazing titles, why does this console gen feel like it doesn't even exist?

These consoles are supposed to be the simple alternative to a PC and yet PC is more accessible than ever. And the Steam Deck is out here running games like Death Stranding.

This gen barely feels like it's started and Sony is out here saying "Yeah, we're already half way through". Am I just getting old and time is moving faster and faster like a Maiden Heaven stand?

Wild.

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Spiritlittle
02/14/24 12:01:42 PM
#83:


SauI_Goodman posted...
Lol what ps6 won't even be out for at least 8 years.
Wouldn't be so sure. 7 years is the average lifespan for a console generation.

PS4 was 2013 - 2020 (including the PS4 Pro).

We're now in 2024, so into a 4th year of the PS5, which is more than halfway through that 7 year lifespan.

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Will_VIIII
02/14/24 12:06:36 PM
#84:


hereforemnant posted...
Several other people dumped on the switch in here as well & this late into it's life, there's very little reason to get one over a Steam Deck or ROG Ally & so on. Sounds like you're being the contrary one since it's very likely a "switch 2" comes out this year & we have no idea of the backwards compatibility or UI yet. Buying a current gen switch this year would be a bad purchase. Maybe just look in the mirror about being contrarian when you replied to me with a counter to what I said lol
If piracy is your argument as for dismissing the switch then the same applies to the PS5 given that it has a dozen exclusives at the moment and a number of those are timed.

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Vyrulisse
02/14/24 12:08:29 PM
#85:


Feels like this gen hasn't even really begun and they're talking about moving on?

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thisworld
02/14/24 12:10:02 PM
#86:


-ZIO- posted...
Am I just getting old and time is moving faster and faster like a Maiden Heaven stand?

Maid in Heaven?
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hereforemnant
02/14/24 12:12:26 PM
#87:


Will_VIIII posted...
If piracy is your argument as for dismissing the switch then the same applies to the PS5 given that it has a dozen exclusives at the moment and a number of those are timed.
Piracy? I have the old switch model that can be jury rigged on the side near the joycon, I own my library & can show it. I did the work myself, & if people put in the elbow grease & some work, the deck will play any of it better than the switch ever has, plus you obviously still get steam deals.

As for the PS5, there's still years to go before you can emulate or pirate them if someone goes that route. Before the steam deck & handheld PCs, I'd argue for the switch more. But hindsight is 2020, & most people that aren't young or teens will get better mileage out of not getting one in 2023/24

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Xenogears15
02/14/24 12:12:29 PM
#88:


PS5 has just started to get really good RPGs. I'm not ready to call this gen done yet.

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noisetank
02/14/24 12:13:56 PM
#89:


love how the ponies have been spinning this as a good thing.

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Giant_Aspirin
02/14/24 12:14:07 PM
#90:


hereforemnant posted...
You gave 0 pros for a switch when emulation exists

i like my Switch to play Mario, Zelda and Metroid (their exclusives)

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Foppe
02/14/24 12:14:59 PM
#91:


But I thought Sony set a standard with the PS2...

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-ZIO-
02/14/24 12:17:31 PM
#92:


thisworld posted...
Maid in Heaven?

Close enough

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Spiritlittle
02/14/24 12:17:50 PM
#93:


Vyrulisse posted...
Feels like this gen hasn't even really begun and they're talking about moving on?

We shouldn't have really expected a giant leap from PS4 to PS5. The SSD was the only significant change.

Seems like they wanna go beyond that.

I'm expecting Part 3 of the FF7 Remake trilogy will be one of the final games for PS5.

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R_Jackal
02/14/24 12:19:13 PM
#94:


bigblu89 posted...
Assuming it took 4 years to get to "halftime", another 4 years till the PS6 comes out, that's about the normal life cycle of a PlayStation.

PlayStation was 1996
PS2 was 2000
PS3 was 2006
PS4 was 2013
PS5 was 2020

So 6-7 years is the normal "life cycle" for a PlayStation.
This would be fine but game dev regularly means games aren't coming out for 4-5 years at this point in time. A six year life cycle coupled with that kind of regular dev time for major titles is absolute horseshit.

Also there have really been no huge leaps in hardware, so I'm not sure what use this will be for them.
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Will_VIIII
02/14/24 12:19:14 PM
#95:


hereforemnant posted...
Piracy? I have the old switch model that can be jury rigged on the side near the joycon, I own my library & can show it. I did the work myself, & if people put in the elbow grease & some work, the deck will play any of it better than the switch ever has, plus you obviously still get steam deals.

As for the PS5, there's still years to go before you can emulate or pirate them if someone goes that route. Before the steam deck & handheld PCs, I'd argue for the switch more. But hindsight is 2020, & most people that aren't young or teens will get better mileage out of not getting one in 2023/24
I'm not talking about emulating the PS5, I'm talking about how there's so few exclusives on it

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kingdrake2
02/14/24 12:19:44 PM
#96:


ZMythos posted...
The fix for this is to ship enough units to meet initial demand and have protections in place to deter and punish scalpers.


if they had this at the start of the ps5. it wouldn't be so painful to land a console.

also to note.i hope they don't release a console so damn soon. haven't started playing the ps5 games yet.

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Aztex
02/14/24 12:25:21 PM
#97:


PS5 pro is my guess not PS6

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Foppe
02/14/24 12:26:24 PM
#98:


Spiritlittle posted...
We shouldn't have really expected a giant leap from PS4 to PS5. The SSD was the only significant change.

Seems like they wanna go beyond that.

I'm expecting Part 3 of the FF7 Remake trilogy will be one of the final games for PS5.
PS6 exclusive.

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Will_VIIII
02/14/24 12:27:14 PM
#99:


Aztex posted...
PS5 pro is my guess not PS6
I dunno that a pro model is even necessary. FF7 Rebirth can hit 30fps at 4k and 60 at 1440p, with some instances where it might drop to 1080p.

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Spiritlittle
02/14/24 12:28:05 PM
#100:


Foppe posted...
PS6 exclusive.
Unlikely.

They're gonna want all 3 games on the PS5, and then do a packaged "remaster" for the PS6.

That's how you milk it appropriately.

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