Palestina War 12: Attacking the worlds biggest refugee camp

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emblem-man 02/12/24 5:07:40 PM #101:	https://x.com/Acyn/status/1757156752842170615?t=TNaKWlQ0fFa9XxJAubSXqA&s=09 --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:978807958] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>https://x.com/Acyn/status/1757156752842170615?t=TNaKWlQ0fFa9XxJAubSXqA&s=09 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/12/24 5:27:23 PM #102:	emblem-man posted... https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1757156752842170615?t=TNaKWlQ0fFa9XxJAubSXqA&s=09 FTFY --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978808285] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>emblem-man posted... </cite><quote>https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1757156752842170615?t=TNaKWlQ0fFa9XxJAubSXqA&s=09</quote>FTFY </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 02/12/24 6:25:18 PM #103:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Only when one side of the story is being told. Im a two sides to every story type of person You really have no self awareness do you? --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:978809255] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Only when one side of the story is being told. Im a two sides to every story type of person</quote>You really have no self awareness do you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/12/24 6:45:29 PM #104:	Ricemills posted... You really have no self awareness do you? As opposed to a self admitted troll who only does this for distance and irritation? --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:978809642] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>You really have no self awareness do you?</quote>As opposed to a self admitted troll who only does this for distance and irritation? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kibouno 02/12/24 6:45:33 PM #105:	https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/12/uk-places-sanctions-on-israeli-settlers-for-forcing-palestinians-from-their-land https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/12/foreign-secretaries-and-diplomats-try-to-persuade-netanyahu-to-call-off-rafah-offensive <cite>Kibouno posted [p:978809643] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/12/uk-places-sanctions-on-israeli-settlers-for-forcing-palestinians-from-their-landhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/12/foreign-secretaries-and-diplomats-try-to-persuade-netanyahu-to-call-off-rafah-offensive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 02/12/24 6:47:32 PM #106:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... As opposed to a self admitted troll who only does this for distance and irritation? Or as a troll that undermine a real life genocide? --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:978809673] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>As opposed to a self admitted troll who only does this for distance and irritation?</quote>Or as a troll that undermine a real life genocide? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/12/24 7:54:08 PM #107:	Foppe posted... I mean, a free Palestine got no reason to have a Hamas... on paper. This conflict has been going on too long and has been too bloody to just end. A free Palestine is just the first step on the solution, the hate will still exist for a long time and both Hamas and other groups will feed on this hate. But as time pass, and if Israel starts acting like they are human being and only do surgical strikes on terrorist cells, then peace will slowly come. Theres one thing that you are forgetting. Hamas is a group of religious extremists that adhere to an interpretation of Islam that requires of them to govern all Islamic holy sites and drive out Christians and Jews. As long as there is a Jewish state, that belief system remains as well. Even if Israel were the bastion of peace and pacifism and religious tolerance my religious school teachers imagined it to be in the 90s, you still have to address that mentality. And thats really hard to do given how even though its shared by a pretty small percentage of Muslims, its more popular than it should be in the Middle East. Especially when Middle Eastern countries like Jordan put the Dome of the Rock on their currency. Thats just the reality of the situation. Jewish extremists pray for a rebuilt Jerusalem and the coming of a messiah that will ensure that gods name is supreme throughout the land with a rebuilt Temple on Mount Moriah (and yes some want to bring back the animal sacrifices) and Muslim ones kind of want the same thing, but their version of it. So while we agree moderates are born from peace and cooperation, the religious component makes that a little complicated compared to say the US which has a separation of church and state. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:978810738] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>I mean, a free Palestine got no reason to have a Hamas... on paper.This conflict has been going on too long and has been too bloody to just end.A free Palestine is just the first step on the solution, the hate will still exist for a long time and both Hamas and other groups will feed on this hate.But as time pass, and if Israel starts acting like they are human being and only do surgical strikes on terrorist cells, then peace will slowly come.</quote>Theres one thing that you are forgetting. Hamas is a group of religious extremists that adhere to an interpretation of Islam that requires of them to govern all Islamic holy sites and drive out Christians and Jews. As long as there is a Jewish state, that belief system remains as well. Even if Israel were the bastion of peace and pacifism and religious tolerance my religious school teachers imagined it to be in the 90s, you still have to address that mentality. And thats really hard to do given how even though its shared by a pretty small percentage of Muslims, its more popular than it should be in the Middle East.Especially when Middle Eastern countries like Jordan put the Dome of the Rock on their currency. Thats just the reality of the situation. Jewish extremists pray for a rebuilt Jerusalem and the coming of a messiah that will ensure that gods name is supreme throughout the land with a rebuilt Temple on Mount Moriah (and yes some want to bring back the animal sacrifices) and Muslim ones kind of want the same thing, but their version of it.So while we agree moderates are born from peace and cooperation, the religious component makes that a little complicated compared to say the US which has a separation of church and state. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Takuya_Lee 02/12/24 7:57:00 PM #108:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Only when one side of the story is being told. Im a two sides to every story type of person, even when I dont like what the other side says. Until it becomes hostile to the point of baseless trolling. No you aren't. If you were, you wouldn't be defending what's happening there. --- Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault. <cite>Takuya_Lee posted [p:978810777] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Only when one side of the story is being told. Im a two sides to every story type of person, even when I dont like what the other side says. Until it becomes hostile to the point of baseless trolling.</quote>No you aren't. If you were, you wouldn't be defending what's happening there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/12/24 8:04:48 PM #109:	Takuya_Lee posted... No you aren't. If you were, you wouldn't be defending what's happening there. Two things can be true. I want Hamas gone and the hostages brought home. I also want the war to stop, and the leaders of both Hamas and the Israeli government held accountable for the disgusting loss of life on both sides. I just havent been convinced you can accomplish the first goal peacefully. Like, why is it possible to pro Palestinian but anti Hamas, but not possible to be pro Israels right to exist but oppose the current Israeli government, in the same way that Im pro American, but hated the carrot top shmuck who was in the white house from 2016-2020? --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:978810901] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Takuya_Lee posted... </cite><quote>No you aren't. If you were, you wouldn't be defending what's happening there.</quote>Two things can be true.I want Hamas gone and the hostages brought home.I also want the war to stop, and the leaders of both Hamas and the Israeli government held accountable for the disgusting loss of life on both sides.I just havent been convinced you can accomplish the first goal peacefully.Like, why is it possible to pro Palestinian but anti Hamas, but not possible to be pro Israels right to exist but oppose the current Israeli government, in the same way that Im pro American, but hated the carrot top shmuck who was in the white house from 2016-2020? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reimu 02/12/24 8:17:11 PM #110:	Because the way you go about it is to completely shut down and you start deflecting and whatabouting the issues being brought before you instead of participating in healthy dialog about it. That behavior is the same as those that maliciously spread propaganda to promote racism and violence to be performed by the Israeli government. That behavior is why nobody believes your sincerity on the matter. We're seeing that the IDF has the same problem that American cops have in the US: one bad soldier/cop ruins the bunch and those that don't call it out are at best complicit with the kind of abuse they're doing. Like it or not, when those abusive soldiers wear the uniform, they are representing all of Israel when they commit abusive acts. We've seen how nasty that can spiral with civilian law enforcement and nobody wants it to happen with a military behind the wheel. I hope I don't need to tell you how much worse that can be compared to civilian law enforcement. That is all we're saying. Nobody is saying Israel shouldn't exist in the same way that we're not saying the US shouldn't exist because there's a rampant unchecked police abuse problem. --- Eh, whatever. <cite>Reimu posted [p:978811096] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Because the way you go about it is to completely shut down and you start deflecting and whatabouting the issues being brought before you instead of participating in healthy dialog about it. That behavior is the same as those that maliciously spread propaganda to promote racism and violence to be performed by the Israeli government. That behavior is why nobody believes your sincerity on the matter.We're seeing that the IDF has the same problem that American cops have in the US: one bad soldier/cop ruins the bunch and those that don't call it out are at best complicit with the kind of abuse they're doing. Like it or not, when those abusive soldiers wear the uniform, they are representing all of Israel when they commit abusive acts. We've seen how nasty that can spiral with civilian law enforcement and nobody wants it to happen with a military behind the wheel. I hope I don't need to tell you how much worse that can be compared to civilian law enforcement.That is all we're saying. Nobody is saying Israel shouldn't exist in the same way that we're not saying the US shouldn't exist because there's a rampant unchecked police abuse problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 02/12/24 8:19:15 PM #111:	Lmao eagles blocked me. Can't deal with truth lol --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:978811129] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Lmao eagles blocked me. Can't deal with truth lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 02/12/24 8:20:31 PM #112:	emblem-man posted... Hamas being a terrorist organization can still sabotage peace even if they have no political power right? Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. Not in the same way or on the same scale. They won't have actual levers of power to pull as a fractured terrorist organization that they would if they were a governmental body. In the same way Iraq or Afghanistan could point to their out-of-power terrorists, a government can be told to fix their shit, or have someone come in and help keep that terrorist influence at bay. Afghanistan was doing pretty well until Trump's secstate negotiated our withdrawal with terrorists and not the actual local government that was running (and... kinda successful) while we were there. My hope is that the same would apply to hamas. With a different governmental body running things, and assistance from its allies, hamas becomes an annoyance and, at most, a speed bump, versus being an impassable roadblock because they're in a place to dictate policy. They'd become America's version of the 3%er militia nuts. A dangerous group of armed people (terrorists, even, one could say) that are a minority of a hyper-conservative minority. They might be a threat to public safety, but they are not a threat to the government functioning or engaging in good policy internally or with its neighbors. That might be optimistic, but like I pointed to above, it's not like it's completely unprecedented. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:978811149] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>emblem-man posted... </cite><quote>Hamas being a terrorist organization can still sabotage peace even if they have no political power right? Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.</quote>Not in the same way or on the same scale. They won't have actual levers of power to pull as a fractured terrorist organization that they would if they were a governmental body.In the same way Iraq or Afghanistan could point to their out-of-power terrorists, a government can be told to fix their shit, or have someone come in and help keep that terrorist influence at bay. Afghanistan was doing pretty well until Trump's secstate negotiated our withdrawal with terrorists and not the actual local government that was running (and... kinda successful) while we were there.My hope is that the same would apply to hamas. With a different governmental body running things, and assistance from its allies, hamas becomes an annoyance and, at most, a speed bump, versus being an impassable roadblock because they're in a place to dictate policy.They'd become America's version of the 3%er militia nuts. A dangerous group of armed people (terrorists, even, one could say) that are a minority of a hyper-conservative minority. They might be a threat to public safety, but they are not a threat to the government functioning or engaging in good policy internally or with its neighbors.That might be optimistic, but like I pointed to above, it's not like it's completely unprecedented. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/12/24 8:53:10 PM #113:	Ricemills posted... Lmao eagles blocked me. Can't deal with truth lol He must be running out of space on his block list, he unblocked me now. And he still doesn't realize that maybe the problem is his stance, not everyone else. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978811723] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>Lmao eagles blocked me. Can't deal with truth lol</quote>He must be running out of space on his block list, he unblocked me now. And he still doesn't realize that maybe the problem is his stance, not everyone else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/12/24 9:42:36 PM #114:	Trumble posted... He must be running out of space on his block list, he unblocked me now. And he still doesn't realize that maybe the problem is his stance, not everyone else. Same. He gave me such a nice gift and then rescinded it. A genocide apologist and rude. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:978812564] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>He must be running out of space on his block list, he unblocked me now. And he still doesn't realize that maybe the problem is his stance, not everyone else.</quote>Same.He gave me such a nice gift and then rescinded it.A genocide apologist and rude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 02/12/24 10:29:26 PM #115:	Ricemills posted... Lmao eagles blocked me. Can't deal with truth lol That's too bad. I was sure that unlike the previous half dozen threads of incessant bickering between you guys and him, the next hundred posts were going to sway him. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:978813359] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>Lmao eagles blocked me. Can't deal with truth lol</quote>That's too bad. I was sure that unlike the previous half dozen threads of incessant bickering between you guys and him, the next hundred posts were going to sway him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/12/24 11:01:51 PM #116:	darkace77450 posted... That's too bad. I was sure that unlike the previous half dozen threads of incessant bickering between you guys and him, the next hundred posts were going to sway him. It's really less about convincing him, and more about making sure any uninformed people reading his posts also see them being debunked or put into context as appropriate. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978813888] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>That's too bad. I was sure that unlike the previous half dozen threads of incessant bickering between you guys and him, the next hundred posts were going to sway him.</quote>It's really less about convincing him, and more about making sure any uninformed people reading his posts also see them being debunked or put into context as appropriate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Covenant 02/13/24 12:58:16 AM #117:	DnDer posted... They'd become America's version of the 3%er militia nuts. Militia nuts in America don't have oil-rich countries willing to bankroll them. In the same way Iraq or Afghanistan could point to their out-of-power terrorists That's the result of a solid decade of the US military conducting its own campaign of largely indiscriminate slaughter and it fell apart as soon as we withdrew. That's not a great solution. <cite>Covenant posted [p:978815130] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>They'd become America's version of the 3%er militia nuts.</quote>Militia nuts in America don't have oil-rich countries willing to bankroll them.<quote>In the same way Iraq or Afghanistan could point to their out-of-power terrorists</quote>That's the result of a solid decade of the US military conducting its own campaign of largely indiscriminate slaughter and it fell apart as soon as we withdrew. That's not a great solution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jokeaccountinc 02/13/24 7:59:20 AM #118:	Shrlke is suspended, Punkfanwalways is suspended, SayHeyyShohei is suspended --- Welcome to our organization. <cite>Jokeaccountinc posted [p:978818024] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Shrlke is suspended, Punkfanwalways is suspended, SayHeyyShohei is suspended </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kibouno 02/13/24 11:39:28 AM #119:	https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/13/ireland-and-spain-among-eu-nations-striking-a-different-note-on-gaza-war <cite>Kibouno posted [p:978820976] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/13/ireland-and-spain-among-eu-nations-striking-a-different-note-on-gaza-war</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMojoRising 02/13/24 3:33:54 PM #120:	https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/13/south-africa-asks-icj-to-help-halt-israels-planned-rafah-offensive South Africa is moving for emergency ruling so that the ICJ intervenes in the Rafah operation --- https://myanimelist.net/profile/MistrMojoRisin <cite>MrMojoRising posted [p:978824991] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/13/south-africa-asks-icj-to-help-halt-israels-planned-rafah-offensiveSouth Africa is moving for emergency ruling so that the ICJ intervenes in the Rafah operation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/13/24 4:38:06 PM #121:	DnDer posted... Not in the same way or on the same scale. They won't have actual levers of power to pull as a fractured terrorist organization that they would if they were a governmental body. In the same way Iraq or Afghanistan could point to their out-of-power terrorists, a government can be told to fix their shit, or have someone come in and help keep that terrorist influence at bay. Afghanistan was doing pretty well until Trump's secstate negotiated our withdrawal with terrorists and not the actual local government that was running (and... kinda successful) while we were there. My hope is that the same would apply to hamas. With a different governmental body running things, and assistance from its allies, hamas becomes an annoyance and, at most, a speed bump, versus being an impassable roadblock because they're in a place to dictate policy. They'd become America's version of the 3%er militia nuts. A dangerous group of armed people (terrorists, even, one could say) that are a minority of a hyper-conservative minority. They might be a threat to public safety, but they are not a threat to the government functioning or engaging in good policy internally or with its neighbors. That might be optimistic, but like I pointed to above, it's not like it's completely unprecedented. Its the threat to public safety thats the problem. These guys used to strap C-4 to themselves and blow up buses and pizza places. Thats not something that would ever qualify as a mere annoyance. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:978825993] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Not in the same way or on the same scale. They won't have actual levers of power to pull as a fractured terrorist organization that they would if they were a governmental body.In the same way Iraq or Afghanistan could point to their out-of-power terrorists, a government can be told to fix their shit, or have someone come in and help keep that terrorist influence at bay. Afghanistan was doing pretty well until Trump's secstate negotiated our withdrawal with terrorists and not the actual local government that was running (and... kinda successful) while we were there.My hope is that the same would apply to hamas. With a different governmental body running things, and assistance from its allies, hamas becomes an annoyance and, at most, a speed bump, versus being an impassable roadblock because they're in a place to dictate policy.They'd become America's version of the 3%er militia nuts. A dangerous group of armed people (terrorists, even, one could say) that are a minority of a hyper-conservative minority. They might be a threat to public safety, but they are not a threat to the government functioning or engaging in good policy internally or with its neighbors.That might be optimistic, but like I pointed to above, it's not like it's completely unprecedented.</quote>Its the threat to public safety thats the problem. These guys used to strap C-4 to themselves and blow up buses and pizza places. Thats not something that would ever qualify as a mere annoyance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/13/24 4:39:12 PM #122:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Its the threat to public safety thats the problem. Hmmmmmm --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:978826015] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Its the threat to public safety thats the problem.</quote>Hmmmmmm </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yo_D_oY 02/13/24 4:41:15 PM #123:	https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/1aq0ycy/idf_fighters_rescue_the_abductees_amid_heavy_fire/ To save a few hostages, IDF had to kill 49 terrorists. Makes me wonder how many countries out there wouldn't dare send their best soldiers to save a few civilians from a hive of terrorists. Israelis are strong. --- https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Yo_D_oY posted [p:978826037] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/1aq0ycy/idf_fighters_rescue_the_abductees_amid_heavy_fire/To save a few hostages, IDF had to kill 49 terrorists.Makes me wonder how many countries out there wouldn't dare send their best soldiers to save a few civilians from a hive of terrorists. Israelis are strong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/13/24 5:00:57 PM #124:	Yo_D_oY posted... https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/1aq0ycy/idf_fighters_rescue_the_abductees_amid_heavy_fire/ To save a few hostages, IDF had to kill 49 terrorists. Makes me wonder how many countries out there wouldn't dare send their best soldiers to save a few civilians from a hive of terrorists. Israelis are strong. I dont think anyone has a problem with that. Its the amount of civilians that also died to carry out the operation. When you take nationality out of it, killing 100 to save 2 is a bad look. Of course this raises an important question about whether or not countries and national barriers are obsolete. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:978826325] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Yo_D_oY posted... </cite><quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/1aq0ycy/idf_fighters_rescue_the_abductees_amid_heavy_fire/To save a few hostages, IDF had to kill 49 terrorists.Makes me wonder how many countries out there wouldn't dare send their best soldiers to save a few civilians from a hive of terrorists. Israelis are strong.</quote>I dont think anyone has a problem with that. Its the amount of civilians that also died to carry out the operation.When you take nationality out of it, killing 100 to save 2 is a bad look. Of course this raises an important question about whether or not countries and national barriers are obsolete. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 02/13/24 5:01:47 PM #125:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Of course this raises an important question about whether or not countries and national barriers are obsolete. HMMMMMM --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:978826343] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Of course this raises an important question about whether or not countries and national barriers are obsolete.</quote>HMMMMMM </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 02/13/24 5:33:15 PM #126:	Yo_D_oY posted... https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/1aq0ycy/idf_fighters_rescue_the_abductees_amid_heavy_fire/ To save a few hostages, IDF had to kill 49 terrorists. Makes me wonder how many countries out there wouldn't dare send their best soldiers to save a few civilians from a hive of terrorists. Israelis are strong. I like how you completely ignore the hostages killed by IDF gunships and snipers. --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:978826845] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Yo_D_oY posted... </cite><quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/1aq0ycy/idf_fighters_rescue_the_abductees_amid_heavy_fire/To save a few hostages, IDF had to kill 49 terrorists.Makes me wonder how many countries out there wouldn't dare send their best soldiers to save a few civilians from a hive of terrorists. Israelis are strong.</quote>I like how you completely ignore the hostages killed by IDF gunships and snipers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 02/13/24 5:35:32 PM #127:	MrMojoRising posted... https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/13/south-africa-asks-icj-to-help-halt-israels-planned-rafah-offensive South Africa is moving for emergency ruling so that the ICJ intervenes in the Rafah operation And when Israel tells them to fuck right off? --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:978826869] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/13/south-africa-asks-icj-to-help-halt-israels-planned-rafah-offensiveSouth Africa is moving for emergency ruling so that the ICJ intervenes in the Rafah operation</quote>And when Israel tells them to fuck right off? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yo_D_oY 02/13/24 6:56:11 PM #128:	Fenriswolf posted... I like how you completely ignore the hostages killed by IDF gunships and snipers. I am simply proud of IDF for killing terrorists and saving those hostages in a very intense gunfight. Anyone who isn't a terrorist sympathizer would be proud of these heroes as well. --- https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Yo_D_oY posted [p:978828138] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Fenriswolf posted... </cite><quote>I like how you completely ignore the hostages killed by IDF gunships and snipers.</quote>I am simply proud of IDF for killing terrorists and saving those hostages in a very intense gunfight. Anyone who isn't a terrorist sympathizer would be proud of these heroes as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 02/13/24 7:02:30 PM #129:	Yo_D_oY posted... https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/1aq0ycy/idf_fighters_rescue_the_abductees_amid_heavy_fire/ To save a few hostages, IDF had to kill 49 terrorists. Makes me wonder how many countries out there wouldn't dare send their best soldiers to save a few civilians from a hive of terrorists. Israelis are strong. This is literally just the job they claim they were sent to do. It only seems so momentous because there's been a ton of wonton murder of civilians incidents predating this. Yes, I'm glad hostages were saved and no I don't care that they had to kill terrorists to do it, I'm saying this only seems so special because pretty much every other recent article is about them behaving as inhumane monsters ethnically cleansing Gaza. Oh and I guess the 3 Israeli hostages who escaped their captors and were murdered by the IDF because the IDF thought they were just killing more Palestinian civilians nobody would care about, even though these people were unarmed, waving white shirts, and begging for help in Hebrew. Other than the initial exchange a little whole ago, the story about them murdering their own hostages, and this one, no other story of them being in Gaza is anything other than them causing pain and suffering on a massive scale. Good job that they finally did their job competently without murdering their own people like last time, but once again this is literally just them doing their job. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:978828236] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Yo_D_oY posted... </cite><quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/1aq0ycy/idf_fighters_rescue_the_abductees_amid_heavy_fire/To save a few hostages, IDF had to kill 49 terrorists.Makes me wonder how many countries out there wouldn't dare send their best soldiers to save a few civilians from a hive of terrorists. Israelis are strong.</quote>This is literally just the job they claim they were sent to do. It only seems so momentous because there's been a ton of wonton murder of civilians incidents predating this.Yes, I'm glad hostages were saved and no I don't care that they had to kill terrorists to do it, I'm saying this only seems so special because pretty much every other recent article is about them behaving as inhumane monsters ethnically cleansing Gaza. Oh and I guess the 3 Israeli hostages who escaped their captors and were murdered by the IDF because the IDF thought they were just killing more Palestinian civilians nobody would care about, even though these people were unarmed, waving white shirts, and begging for help in Hebrew. Other than the initial exchange a little whole ago, the story about them murdering their own hostages, and this one, no other story of them being in Gaza is anything other than them causing pain and suffering on a massive scale.Good job that they finally did their job competently without murdering their own people like last time, but once again this is literally just them doing their job. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/13/24 11:50:18 PM #130:	Nobody in the IDF is a hero. Finally rescuing a couple people doesn't change that <cite>Zikten posted [p:978832508] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Nobody in the IDF is a hero. Finally rescuing a couple people doesn't change that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yo_D_oY 02/14/24 12:23:48 AM #131:	Zikten posted... Nobody in the IDF is a hero. Finally rescuing a couple people doesn't change that Feel free to tell that to the rescued hostages and their families. Kradek posted... Good job that they finally did their job competently without murdering their own people like last time, but once again this is literally just them doing their job. 'Firefighter saves a family that nearly got burnt alive!' Internet guy: 'it is literally just their job' --- https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Yo_D_oY posted [p:978832879] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>Nobody in the IDF is a hero. Finally rescuing a couple people doesn't change that</quote>Feel free to tell that to the rescued hostages and their families.Kradek posted... </cite><quote>Good job that they finally did their job competently without murdering their own people like last time, but once again this is literally just them doing their job.</quote>'Firefighter saves a family that nearly got burnt alive!'Internet guy: 'it is literally just their job' </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/14/24 12:26:46 AM #132:	Yo_D_oY posted... Feel free to tell that to the rescued hostages and their families. All the innocent Palestinians murdered, plus the Israelis killed by their own army, would agree with me. You can't murder like 20,000 people, then save 3 people or whatever, and declare yourself a hero <cite>Zikten posted [p:978832912] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Yo_D_oY posted... </cite><quote>Feel free to tell that to the rescued hostages and their families.</quote>All the innocent Palestinians murdered, plus the Israelis killed by their own army, would agree with me. You can't murder like 20,000 people, then save 3 people or whatever, and declare yourself a hero</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 02/14/24 12:30:22 AM #133:	Watching this play out is like some cursed speedrun of the wars in the 00s. The impetus is a horrible terrorist attack but the reaction is so utterly out of lockstep and lied about through "trusted" officials that within a frankly short period of time the warhawks become either ignored, reviled, or flip their position altogether. We're currently in the "those aren't civilian deaths they are terrorists" phase of the debacle in which the sheer scope of the damage inflicted is simply being ignored and it is implied (albeit rarely stated) that it's okay to kill hundreds of civilians to rescue hostages. Would love to know how bombing cemeteries has anything to do with fighting Hamas, but I think the people defending it either already know it's deeply immoral and just know they can't publicly say they support mass murder (or) they will pretend to have never known or had that opinion years down the line. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:978832964] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Watching this play out is like some cursed speedrun of the wars in the 00s. The impetus is a horrible terrorist attack but the reaction is so utterly out of lockstep and lied about through "trusted" officials that within a frankly short period of time the warhawks become either ignored, reviled, or flip their position altogether. We're currently in the "those aren't civilian deaths they are terrorists" phase of the debacle in which the sheer scope of the damage inflicted is simply being ignored and it is implied (albeit rarely stated) that it's okay to kill hundreds of civilians to rescue hostages. Would love to know how bombing cemeteries has anything to do with fighting Hamas, but I think the people defending it either already know it's deeply immoral and just know they can't publicly say they support mass murder (or) they will pretend to have never known or had that opinion years down the line. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 02/14/24 12:33:17 AM #134:	Zikten posted... All the innocent Palestinians murdered, plus the Israelis killed by their own army, would agree with me. You can't murder like 20,000 people, then save 3 people or whatever, and declare yourself a hero Apparently it makes you a terrorist sympathizer to not want deeply uneven retaliation. Straight out of the Bush Admin playbook lol --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:978832994] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>All the innocent Palestinians murdered, plus the Israelis killed by their own army, would agree with me. You can't murder like 20,000 people, then save 3 people or whatever, and declare yourself a hero</quote>Apparently it makes you a terrorist sympathizer to not want deeply uneven retaliation. Straight out of the Bush Admin playbook lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aloc 02/14/24 12:35:31 AM #135:	Zero_Destroyer posted... Apparently it makes you a terrorist sympathizer to not want deeply uneven retaliation. Straight out of the Bush Admin playbook lol That's why I said 261 is at its core right wing. And so are tons of "liberals" who complain endlessly about the left. --- Aloc will now post in PG or try <cite>Aloc posted [p:978833021] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Zero_Destroyer posted... </cite><quote>Apparently it makes you a terrorist sympathizer to not want deeply uneven retaliation. Straight out of the Bush Admin playbook lol</quote>That's why I said 261 is at its core right wing. And so are tons of "liberals" who complain endlessly about the left. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aloc 02/14/24 12:37:07 AM #136:	Can @foppe Block flyeaglesfly since he isn't willing to engage anyone here in good faith? --- Aloc will now post in PG or try <cite>Aloc posted [p:978833032] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Can @foppeBlock flyeaglesfly since he isn't willing to engage anyone here in good faith? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yo_D_oY 02/14/24 12:47:13 AM #137:	Aloc posted... That's why I said 261 is at its core right wing. And so are tons of "liberals" who complain endlessly about the left. Were you ever on 261? It was full of left-wing stuff. I posted a lot about universal healthcare and the board polls were always heavily in favor of Bernie, AOC, etc. There were the usual trolls like INTERWEB_USER or whatever his name was but it was not at all a right-wing hangout. --- https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Yo_D_oY posted [p:978833133] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Aloc posted... </cite><quote>That's why I said 261 is at its core right wing. And so are tons of "liberals" who complain endlessly about the left.</quote>Were you ever on 261? It was full of left-wing stuff. I posted a lot about universal healthcare and the board polls were always heavily in favor of Bernie, AOC, etc.There were the usual trolls like INTERWEB_USER or whatever his name was but it was not at all a right-wing hangout. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ragtag28 02/14/24 12:51:06 AM #138:	What started all of this? This is horrible to read --- My friend code is: 2842-5212-7233 LF: Laptop, wall mounted tv(black) wide screen t.v. 60 in(black) box corner sofa set(white) <cite>Ragtag28 posted [p:978833177] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>What started all of this? This is horrible to read </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aloc 02/14/24 1:07:15 AM #139:	Yo_D_oY posted... Were you ever on 261? It was full of left-wing stuff. I posted a lot about universal healthcare and the board polls were always heavily in favor of Bernie, AOC, etc. There were the usual trolls like INTERWEB_USER or whatever his name was but it was not at all a right-wing hangout. It was a center right hangout. --- Aloc will now post in PG or try <cite>Aloc posted [p:978833340] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Yo_D_oY posted... </cite><quote>Were you ever on 261? It was full of left-wing stuff. I posted a lot about universal healthcare and the board polls were always heavily in favor of Bernie, AOC, etc.There were the usual trolls like INTERWEB_USER or whatever his name was but it was not at all a right-wing hangout.</quote>It was a center right hangout. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yo_D_oY 02/14/24 1:12:48 AM #140:	Aloc posted... It was a center right hangout. ok so you were never there, got it. --- https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Yo_D_oY posted [p:978833386] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Aloc posted... </cite><quote>It was a center right hangout.</quote>ok so you were never there, got it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aloc 02/14/24 1:13:58 AM #141:	Yo_D_oY posted... ok so you were never there, got it. Is this a humble novice alt? It's very telling all the 261 users are turning a blind eye or making apologetics for civilian casualties --- Aloc will now post in PG or try <cite>Aloc posted [p:978833398] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Yo_D_oY posted... </cite><quote>ok so you were never there, got it.</quote>Is this a humble novice alt?It's very telling all the 261 users are turning a blind eye or making apologetics for civilian casualties </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yo_D_oY 02/14/24 2:37:33 AM #142:	Aloc posted... Is this a humble novice alt? It's very telling all the 261 users are turning a blind eye or making apologetics for civilian casualties You are the one here with 134 karma and you're calling me an alt? Funny. 261 always leaned left and also had crazy alt-right trolls that got modded constantly. It was a thing that happened multiple times a day with an alt-right troll posting a bait topic and it'd get 50 users to post in depth responses why they are wrong. If 10 users in CE post topics saying the earth is flat but 500 users say they are wrong with proof, but these 10 users are obnoxious as hell, would you say CE is a flat earther hangout? --- https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Yo_D_oY posted [p:978833988] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Aloc posted... </cite><quote>Is this a humble novice alt?It's very telling all the 261 users are turning a blind eye or making apologetics for civilian casualties</quote>You are the one here with 134 karma and you're calling me an alt? Funny.261 always leaned left and also had crazy alt-right trolls that got modded constantly. It was a thing that happened multiple times a day with an alt-right troll posting a bait topic and it'd get 50 users to post in depth responses why they are wrong.If 10 users in CE post topics saying the earth is flat but 500 users say they are wrong with proof, but these 10 users are obnoxious as hell, would you say CE is a flat earther hangout? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aloc 02/14/24 2:40:11 AM #143:	Yo_D_oY posted... You are the one here with 134 karma and you're calling me an alt? Funny. 261 always leaned left and also had crazy alt-right trolls that got modded constantly. It was a thing that happened multiple times a day with an alt-right troll posting a bait topic and it'd get 50 users to post in depth responses why they are wrong. If 10 users in CE post topics saying the earth is flat but 500 users say they are wrong with proof, but these 10 users are obnoxious as hell, would you say CE is a flat earther hangout? You're the one repeating Bush era talking points. But not rignt wing.. Sure. --- Aloc will now post in PG or try <cite>Aloc posted [p:978834001] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Yo_D_oY posted... </cite><quote>You are the one here with 134 karma and you're calling me an alt? Funny.261 always leaned left and also had crazy alt-right trolls that got modded constantly. It was a thing that happened multiple times a day with an alt-right troll posting a bait topic and it'd get 50 users to post in depth responses why they are wrong.If 10 users in CE post topics saying the earth is flat but 500 users say they are wrong with proof, but these 10 users are obnoxious as hell, would you say CE is a flat earther hangout?</quote>You're the one repeating Bush era talking points.But not rignt wing..Sure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/14/24 3:06:12 AM #144:	Aloc was on 261. In between bans. And while 261 overwhelmingly supported left wing policies, it did (like this board) veer sharply right on some issues (crime and punishment being the obvious). --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:978834148] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Aloc was on 261.In between bans.And while 261 overwhelmingly supported left wing policies, it did (like this board) veer sharply right on some issues (crime and punishment being the obvious). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 02/14/24 7:26:59 AM #145:	Israel have done some air attacks against South Lebanon. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:978835788] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Israel have done some air attacks against South Lebanon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 02/14/24 8:06:08 AM #146:	Yo_D_oY posted... Were you ever on 261? It was full of left-wing stuff. I posted a lot about universal healthcare and the board polls were always heavily in favor of Bernie, AOC, etc. There were the usual trolls like INTERWEB_USER or whatever his name was but it was not at all a right-wing hangout. Nah, the board was basically democrat headquarters. While some users supported Bernie, they were constantly mocked and shut down with remarks like "Bernie Bros". Universal healthcare was "supported" in that they'd claim to support it, but when it came to actual implementation, they'd bash it as "unrealistic", parroting Hillary's talking point of it being like promising unicorns. Instead they favored the corporate-friendly ACA and claimed that we should be thankful just for that. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:978836138] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Yo_D_oY posted... </cite><quote>Were you ever on 261? It was full of left-wing stuff. I posted a lot about universal healthcare and the board polls were always heavily in favor of Bernie, AOC, etc.There were the usual trolls like INTERWEB_USER or whatever his name was but it was not at all a right-wing hangout.</quote>Nah, the board was basically democrat headquarters. While some users supported Bernie, they were constantly mocked and shut down with remarks like "Bernie Bros". Universal healthcare was "supported" in that they'd claim to support it, but when it came to actual implementation, they'd bash it as "unrealistic", parroting Hillary's talking point of it being like promising unicorns. Instead they favored the corporate-friendly ACA and claimed that we should be thankful just for that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 02/14/24 8:15:39 AM #147:	I feel like there was a small, but loud group on 261 who were basically fanboys/girls of Democrats and would flip out if you dared criticize or call out the party, it's members, or their policies. I got into many arguments with them. The rest was fairly left leaning besides the conservative users. --- http://imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:978836238] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>I feel like there was a small, but loud group on 261 who were basically fanboys/girls of Democrats and would flip out if you dared criticize or call out the party, it's members, or their policies. I got into many arguments with them. The rest was fairly left leaning besides the conservative users. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 02/14/24 11:09:25 AM #148:	Zikten posted... Nobody in the IDF is a hero. Finally rescuing a couple people doesn't change that If thats true (its not), but if it is, serving your country in then military regardless of what country it is is no longer a heroic choice to make. And apparently, dying in service to your country is apparently pointless as well. You cant demonize every individual because of the actions of the whole collective. If that was the way it worked, wed have executed every single member of the Nazi party after Nuremberg, instead of putting them on trial individually and looking at specifically what they did while they served. In my humble opinion, serving in your countrys military is one of the most heroic things you can do, regardless of country. But it stops being so when you, following orders or of your own accord, commit a war crime. Not every member of the IDF has committed a war crime, even though the organization certainly has. The people that have not though, are still fighting to protect their families and loved ones. That makes them heroes. And yes, the same could be said of anyone who serves regardless of country. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:978838596] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>Nobody in the IDF is a hero. Finally rescuing a couple people doesn't change that</quote>If thats true (its not), but if it is, serving your country in then military regardless of what country it is is no longer a heroic choice to make. And apparently, dying in service to your country is apparently pointless as well. You cant demonize every individual because of the actions of the whole collective.If that was the way it worked, wed have executed every single member of the Nazi party after Nuremberg, instead of putting them on trial individually and looking at specifically what they did while they served.In my humble opinion, serving in your countrys military is one of the most heroic things you can do, regardless of country. But it stops being so when you, following orders or of your own accord, commit a war crime. Not every member of the IDF has committed a war crime, even though the organization certainly has. The people that have not though, are still fighting to protect their families and loved ones. That makes them heroes.And yes, the same could be said of anyone who serves regardless of country. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/14/24 11:14:45 AM #149:	The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:978838698] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote><quote>The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est Pro patria mori.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMojoRising 02/14/24 11:32:28 AM #150:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... And yes, the same could be said of anyone who serves regardless of country. not every country's military is engaged in an active subjugation of its neighbors which has recently resulted in likely genocide. And not every country forces its people to become part of this military under threat of imprisonment so you really can't say the same thing. --- https://myanimelist.net/profile/MistrMojoRisin <cite>MrMojoRising posted [p:978839084] in Israel/Pal... [t:80692928]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>And yes, the same could be said of anyone who serves regardless of country.</quote>not every country's military is engaged in an active subjugation of its neighbors which has recently resulted in likely genocide. And not every country forces its people to become part of this military under threat of imprisonmentso you really can't say the same thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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