Current Events > Karl Jobst exposes Jhirard Khalil (The Completionist) and his fraudulent charity

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NeonBoobs
11/13/23 7:00:21 PM
#51:


Hold up, they've been holding the money for 9 years!? Bruh

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DarkFists
11/13/23 7:01:25 PM
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Doe posted...
Isn't that what the charity is for? Cancer research? The charity money, in any case, is what I mean.
Dementia research, but yeah

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
11/13/23 7:03:19 PM
#53:


OK, I've watched the video.

I don't know the legal differences in the US, but I know that my parents helped run an NPO where they would get cash donations that go into a single coffer and at the end of the year they give out the interest accumulated from that account to projects in their scope of interest.

Sounds like that isn't the intention of Jhirard's charity, but at the same time if the money has been sitting and accumulating interest in that way, they could end up giving out more money over time than they actually take in.

If the money is still there and awaiting the proper organization that fits in-line with what they want to do, I'm disappointed that wasn't conveyed but I'm also not like, pissed off about it. That money is there and awaiting a place for it to go that makes sense. I have no doubt that it's likely no members of his family knew WTF they were doing in creating this charity and what exactly they HAD to do and not do.

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NeonBoobs
11/13/23 7:04:30 PM
#54:


Money is worth more today than tomorrow. That's one of the basics of economics. So they're diminishing the money's buying power by holding onto it >_>

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Jeremy517
11/13/23 7:04:53 PM
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He was aware. He is a director for Open Hand Foundation, and he lives with the president and vice president.

They paid themselves out of the donations every year and are sitting on the rest, so I'd say that is at the level of stealing money.

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Enclave
11/13/23 7:05:49 PM
#56:


Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
OK, I've watched the video.

I don't know the legal differences in the US, but I know that my parents helped run an NPO where they would get cash donations that go into a single coffer and at the end of the year they give out the interest accumulated from that account to projects in their scope of interest.

Sounds like that isn't the intention of Jhirard's charity, but at the same time if the money has been sitting and accumulating interest in that way, they could end up giving out more money over time than they actually take in.

If the money is still there and awaiting the proper organization that fits in-line with what they want to do, I'm disappointed that wasn't conveyed but I'm also not like, pissed off about it. That money is there and awaiting a place for it to go that makes sense. I have no doubt that it's likely no members of his family knew WTF they were doing in creating this charity and what exactly they HAD to do and not do.

They were misrepresenting themselves, a charity isn't allowed to say they've been giving out money to so and so all while not giving out any money.

As I've said a few times in this thread, the Mutahar video I posted goes more in depth than the Jobst video.

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Doe
11/13/23 7:07:04 PM
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Basically I'm just imagining there's a universe where this is just blatant fraud vs a universe where running this stuff is hard and confusing for some people and could be a "teachable moment" for other community leaders.

Part of my caution is that as soon as a video like this is released, the narrative moves into the hands of the mob immediately.

I can think of several different types of canceling this year that went from accusation, to flash-fire style mob of hate and fighting online, to the accused coming out with receipts and alternate story that conceded some of the blame yet showed a more nuanced story, one that didn't merit the narrative that had spiraled out of control.

I think the most recent was the DBZ / Yugiog comedy dub guys, and there were those SuperMega people for example.

There's an element of these allegation social media cycles that is just destructive for the sake of voyeuristic entertainment that I don't like. A big group of people that move from one possible scandal to the next and they live to burn people. So that's why I try to maintain neutral until some more time passes, those junkies move on, and more evidence comes out that confirms what we think happened or not.

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Enclave
11/13/23 7:07:29 PM
#58:


Jeremy517 posted...
He was aware. He is a director for Open Hand Foundation, and he lives with the president and vice president.

They paid themselves out of the donations every year and are sitting on the rest, so I'd say that is at the level of stealing money.

Actually their tax documents show nobody got paid wages, they have expenses but they have not noted what those expenses were for in their returns.

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LordFarquad1312
11/13/23 7:08:05 PM
#59:


Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
OK, I've watched the video.

I don't know the legal differences in the US, but I know that my parents helped run an NPO where they would get cash donations that go into a single coffer and at the end of the year they give out the interest accumulated from that account to projects in their scope of interest.

Sounds like that isn't the intention of Jhirard's charity, but at the same time if the money has been sitting and accumulating interest in that way, they could end up giving out more money over time than they actually take in.

If the money is still there and awaiting the proper organization that fits in-line with what they want to do, I'm disappointed that wasn't conveyed but I'm also not like, pissed off about it. That money is there and awaiting a place for it to go that makes sense. I have no doubt that it's likely no members of his family knew WTF they were doing in creating this charity and what exactly they HAD to do and not do.
But holding the funds for 9+ years. While telling your audience you're actively funding a university. With a quote on your website from a dean that got fired for funds mismanagement BEFORE you officially became an NPO. And still promote your fundraisers by saying you're actually funding said university a year or two after "finding out" the money's just been sitting on some bank account.

Not a good look.

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hereforemnant
11/13/23 7:08:15 PM
#60:


Why would you in such a petty manner mention Arin Hanson's mom's horse charity & not give the information about that if it was at the top of your fingertips? Lol

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Doe
11/13/23 7:10:00 PM
#61:


hereforemnant posted...
Why would you in such a petty manner mention Arin Hanson's mom's horse charity & not give the information about that if it was at the top of your fingertips? Lol
Oh yeah. This also gave me pause. I saw someone mention it on Twitter too. People gotta expand the drama and it always leads back to GameGrumps somehow... Ever since I saw DingDong's stream about fan drama scrutiny and the toll it takes on even the victims I try to be skeptical when I see it.

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Robot2600
11/13/23 7:10:03 PM
#62:


I'll say it again... He claimed 3 specifics orgs they were donating to. Plus hinted at more!

His excuse is he didn't know where to donate to.

Literally looks like a plan to just take all the money one day.

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_Raich_
11/13/23 7:10:36 PM
#63:


Doe posted...
Incompetence/negligence vs reckless/intentional can in fact change what somebody is charged with. But besides that, it certainly can affect how strongly we condemn him for it. Was he a gamer dweeb over his head or was he literally planning to steal hundreds of thousands of charity money? There is an ocean of difference.

I'm making no excuses for him and have no attachment for him. I just don't want to be part of an overzealous internet mob, because if it was incompetence, I can imagine many youtubers this could potentially happen to. Who thought it'd be easy to do something good and screwed it up.
Yeah this is where i'm at. This screams incompetence a lot more than malice, and the people blowing him up seem to want to drive an angle from the jump for clicks (which is honestly pretty par for the course nowadays). The fact that the money is still there and not just in someone's bank account already puts this a tier below most other youtuber money shenanigans pulled on their fans.

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LordFarquad1312
11/13/23 7:10:44 PM
#64:


hereforemnant posted...
Why would you in such a petty manner mention Arin Hanson's mom's horse charity & not give the information about that if it was at the top of your fingertips? Lol
I read it on a grump hating subreddit, not sure how accurate it is.

It's a case of me not being surprised if it were true, but someone should investigate it.

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Jeremy517
11/13/23 7:10:44 PM
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Enclave posted...
Actually their tax documents show nobody got paid wages, they have expenses but they have not noted what those expenses were for in their returns.

I was paraphrasing, not saying that they actually had a salary. It seems pretty obvious where the expenses went.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
11/13/23 7:12:20 PM
#66:


Jhirard would not have been willing to give an interview if there was any malice involved in this as well. Like, WAY too much risk to give the interview and admit to your ignorance than to just have no statement currently.

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LordFarquad1312
11/13/23 7:14:29 PM
#67:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
I read it on a grump hating subreddit, not sure how accurate it is.

It's a case of me not being surprised if it were true, but someone should investigate it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/rantgrumps/comments/ kofsd1/game_grumps_2020_summary_part_2/
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8ada0dea.jpg
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Enclave
11/13/23 7:14:36 PM
#68:


Jeremy517 posted...
I was paraphrasing, not saying that they actually had a salary. It seems pretty obvious where the expenses went.

It really doesn't seem obvious when the wages portion of their returns is $0 for each employee and they have not noted what any of their expenses are like a non-profit is supposed to.

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Doe
11/13/23 7:14:42 PM
#69:


Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
Jhirard would not have been willing to give an interview if there was any malice involved in this as well. Like, WAY too much risk to give the interview and admit to your ignorance than to just have no statement currently.
When someone accuses you of fraud you shut up and call a lawyer, I don't care if you're Saint Peter or Mephistopheles >_>

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billcom6
11/13/23 7:35:22 PM
#70:


Watched Jobst video.

The Completionist is not looking good. Basically just looks like he was lying for years, either on purpose (bad), or cause he was extremely ignorant of the charity he was on the board for created for his late mother (also bad).

Watching the video I was wondering why this didn't come out before Indie Land 2023, which was only held a few weeks ago, but it appears that they waited to see if they would make a statement about this or keep repeating the same lies (seems like they just kept lying, even after being made aware of what was known).

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Kradek
11/13/23 7:36:07 PM
#71:


Blue_Inigo posted...
Bro, I love the Completionist. Don't tell me he's a scammer. I'm about to watch this

I love this openness to being wrong, to me it's the greatest sign of maturity.

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Robot2600
11/13/23 7:39:02 PM
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Likewise, giving an interview doesn't imply innocence. Like wth.

There is no way you could think this is negligence and not fraud.

He was a director of the charity since 2014.

He admitted he knew about this in 2021 and was incensed! Uh huh.

He's named over 3 orgs where they claimed the money was going to, then claimed they didn't know where to donate...

They claimed they used to donate body parts. What in the fuck. They sold mom for parts and then started a fraud charity.

You guys must be fans of this guy or something it's completely obvious this was a scam.

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GhostFaceLeaks
11/13/23 7:46:46 PM
#73:


Hayame_Zero posted...
That's a bit of a generalization since, you know, Karl Jobst is a Youtuber.

Give it a year and he'll be exposed for something heinous.

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LordFarquad1312
11/13/23 7:48:05 PM
#74:


GhostFaceLeaks posted...
Give it a year and he'll be exposed for something heinous.
He cheated on Speedrun.
At least once.

Though it's funny how much influence and power he holds. He either makes a video praising you for your skill or he's about to ruin your whole career.

No one is safe. Not even that old lady who could allegedly type real fast.

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hereforemnant
11/13/23 7:55:16 PM
#75:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Grumps info
Hmmm okay interesting good to know, it being up in the air is at least somewhat relieving that it might not be another case of charities fraud. But I do remember those KH streams & the games never being finished personally was odd. Hopefully it doesn't pan out but you can't find any good apples these days for entertainment, someone always shows their fucking ass lol

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aarrgus
11/13/23 8:00:52 PM
#76:


Jobst also oversteps when he implies that the IRS wouldn't notice something shady. The IRS actually does notice many issues that appear to be mistakes or criminal actions. It's usually when you repeatedly ignore the IRS when the real shit hits the fan. And by all accounts the money seems to exist and is possibly fully accounted for at the moment. Is it possible that the IRS has missed something? Sure it happens, but usually when someone is being really nefarious in their actions and try to hide everything.

There should be increased transparency and sunlight shown on this issue, but Jobst is not American and he does not have special insight into the American tax system.

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JoeDangIt
11/13/23 8:04:56 PM
#77:


Things like this are one of the reasons I don't trust charities.
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aarrgus
11/13/23 8:07:09 PM
#78:


JoeDangIt posted...
Things like this are one of the reasons I don't trust charities.

I think in general donating to newly started charities from your favorite YouTube creator should be pretty low on the trust level.

There are plenty of good charities out there.

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NeonBoobs
11/13/23 8:07:14 PM
#79:


Idk how you can be on top of the charity and not notice money just sitting there for 7 years, "supposedly" see it then, and then still keep sitting on it for another 2 years while you look for a charity

They couldve used that money in the past but now its value is lower cuz they've been sitting on it for years. That's such a waste

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realnifty1
11/13/23 8:11:36 PM
#80:


Undoubtedly fraud, you've had it for over a decade and have repeatedly on camera talked about where the money is going by specific organization name.

Possible theft, remember there is no guarantee that the money is in place anymore, the actual account information is not public. Wouldn't be the first people to "borrow" funds to make investments and think they will just put it back before anyone notices.
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Blue_Inigo
11/13/23 8:17:54 PM
#81:


I don't think he's a full blown scammer but this is VERY SUS

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LordFarquad1312
11/13/23 8:26:51 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Post 67.

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Jeremy517
11/13/23 8:27:25 PM
#84:


aarrgus posted...
Jobst also oversteps when he implies that the IRS wouldn't notice something shady.

He doesn't say they won't notice; he says they won't immediately notice and that they don't catch everything. Neither of those seem like stretches to me.

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BurmesePenguin
11/13/23 9:01:49 PM
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Jeremy517 posted...
He doesn't say they won't notice; he says they won't immediately notice and that they don't catch everything. Neither of those seem like stretches to me.
I'm not sure what expertise he has to say this, though.

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Enclave
11/13/23 9:10:42 PM
#87:


BurmesePenguin posted...
I'm not sure what expertise he has to say this, though.

The IRS is under funded, pretty severely so. It fails to catch a LOT of fraud.

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legendarylemur
11/13/23 9:45:52 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/rantgrumps/comments/ kofsd1/game_grumps_2020_summary_part_2/
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8ada0dea.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/866b7532.jpg
I feel like this shit's the most damning. Isn't it weird that Jirard's charity expenses were also just slightly below 50k over 3 years? I feel like there's some intent to just let it ride and be a very slow trickle of money to him and his brother.

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LordFarquad1312
11/13/23 10:00:18 PM
#89:


legendarylemur posted...
I feel like this shit's the most damning. Isn't it weird that Jirard's charity expenses were also just slightly below 50k over 3 years? I feel like there's some intent to just let it ride and be a very slow trickle of money to him and his brother.
Expenses and receipts are different.
Since the horse charity doesn't seem to have gross receipts averaging over $50k, their records aren't public which is why a lot of that post is based on speculation.
Jirard's family's charity's records are public, which is what lead to Karl and Mudahar to investigate.

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LordFarquad1312
11/13/23 10:13:20 PM
#90:


Am I really the only one raising an eyebrow at this?!
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/770f256f.jpg

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BlueBoy675
11/13/23 10:14:47 PM
#91:


Ya know, 20k isnt that far off from what he spent buying every single eshop game

Not making any claims, but 20k is being written off for unspecified expenses and a few months ago he posted a video where he spent just over 20k. Maybe thats a coincidence or Im misunderstanding the situation

https://youtu.be/ujHUMG0Uovs?si=1Z3Nlkyjtn1iXf5J

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BakonBitz
11/13/23 10:26:01 PM
#92:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Am I really the only one raising an eyebrow at this?!
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/770f256f.jpg
Yeah, Karl and Mutahar found that weird too, but I guess the company never elaborated on it.

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BroodRyu
11/13/23 10:33:57 PM
#93:


billcom6 posted...
I have nothing against The Completionist besides the fact that I have never seen someone try so hard to be funny all the time and never even be remotely funny. It is seriously amazing how unfunny he is.
He at least got rid of whats his name from several years ago. His sidekick in the first 100 episodes. Greg? He tried WAAAAY too hard to be funny.
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Jeremy517
11/13/23 10:37:01 PM
#94:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Am I really the only one raising an eyebrow at this?!

I assume that just means that his mom's body was donated to science

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Trelve
11/14/23 1:51:14 AM
#95:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3c8c0c71.jpg
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sadib100
11/14/23 1:51:51 AM
#96:


LordFarquad1312 posted...
Am I really the only one raising an eyebrow at this?!
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/770f256f.jpg
Yeah. They donated JonTron's brain, since he never used it.

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Reimu
11/14/23 2:53:37 AM
#97:


Looking bad for The Completionist.

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pegusus123456
11/14/23 3:00:23 AM
#98:


BroodRyu posted...
He at least got rid of whats his name from several years ago. His sidekick in the first 100 episodes. Greg? He tried WAAAAY too hard to be funny.
That dude was petty as fuck about the entire situation too. He demanded Jirard take down all the videos with him in it.

And I like Jirard, so I hope this ends up being just incompetence rather than malice on his part. Either way, this video where he parodies Youtube apologies didn't age too well lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A-0aabfh70

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sadib100
11/14/23 3:07:38 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
And I like Jirard, so I hope this ends up being just incompetence rather than malice on his part. Either way, this video where he parodies Youtube apologies didn't age too well lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A-0aabfh70
Yikes.

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punkfanalways
11/14/23 3:09:42 AM
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Has there been any sort of response from the accused yet?
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