Palestine War: Live Thread 5 (Gaza Invaded)

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Agent_Stroud 11/08/23 2:49:23 PM #51:	punkfanalways posted... Thats a pretty racist cartoon tbf. Indeed. --- "We're going to shake things up, Morgan. Like old times." -- Alex Yu, Prey (2017) <cite>Agent_Stroud posted [p:977106127] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>punkfanalways posted... </cite><quote>Thats a pretty racist cartoon tbf.</quote>Indeed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
name_unknown 11/08/23 3:32:50 PM #52:	Hostage deal between Israel and Hamas appears elusive as negotiations continue From CNN's MJ Lee, Becky Anderson and Alex Marquardt A deal to secure the release of a large number of hostages that Hamas is holding in Gaza appears elusive for now, despite active negotiations involving the US, Israel, Qatar and Hamas. There is no prospect of Israel agreeing to a sustained pause in fighting without a substantial number of hostages being released, one senior US official told CNN. The multi-party talks in which Qatar is playing a key mediating role have been ongoing for weeks and have so far produced many ideas, including the release of around 10 to 15 hostages in exchange for a one- or two-day ceasefire, diplomatic sources close to the talks said. But as of Wednesday, such a proposal was not on the table, the US official said. One Israeli official said Israel was ready for a pause if there could be certainty that Hamas was serious about releasing hostages. What is not clear is how long of a pause Israel would be willing to agree to, and what would amount to an acceptable number of hostages released. Negotiations have also centered around exchanging hostages for Palestinian prisoners held by Israel, CNN has previously reported. Only a handful of hostages including two American citizens have been released since the start of the war. After their successful exit, US President Joe Biden revealed that Israel had agreed to a brief ceasefire to secure their release. The Biden administration has continued to call on Israel to put in place additional humanitarian pauses to facilitate the release of more hostages. Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said Israel will not agree to a ceasefire without the release of hostages, a message he reiterated in a social media post Wednesday. The weeks-long efforts to try to get a big group of hostages out have brought to light a myriad of complexities. The hostages, who are of various nationalities, are not believed to be in one location and it is not clear exactly how many of them are in Gaza; communication with Hamas is slow; and there are concerns about how to safely move any big group of civilians through Gaza when the strip is under constant bombardment. Officials have also stressed that Hamas is far from a typical and by any means a trustworthy negotiating partner. Frankly, we're dealing with Hamas, a senior administration official said. This is not something that anyone is expecting [to be conducted in] good faith. <cite>name_unknown posted [p:977106937] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Hostage deal between Israel and Hamas appears elusive as negotiations continue From CNN's MJ Lee, Becky Anderson and Alex Marquardt A deal to secure the release of a large number of hostages that Hamas is holding in Gaza appears elusive for now, despite active negotiations involving the US, Israel, Qatar and Hamas. There is no prospect of Israel agreeing to a sustained pause in fighting without a substantial number of hostages being released, one senior US official told CNN. The multi-party talks in which Qatar is playing a key mediating role have been ongoing for weeks and have so far produced many ideas, including the release of around 10 to 15 hostages in exchange for a one- or two-day ceasefire, diplomatic sources close to the talks said. But as of Wednesday, such a proposal was not on the table, the US official said.One Israeli official said Israel was ready for a pause if there could be certainty that Hamas was serious about releasing hostages. What is not clear is how long of a pause Israel would be willing to agree to, and what would amount to an acceptable number of hostages released. Negotiations have also centered around exchanging hostages for Palestinian prisoners held by Israel, CNN has previously reported.Only a handful of hostages including two American citizens have been released since the start of the war. After their successful exit, US President Joe Biden revealed that Israel had agreed to a brief ceasefire to secure their release. The Biden administration has continued to call on Israel to put in place additional humanitarian pauses to facilitate the release of more hostages. Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said Israel will not agree to a ceasefire without the release of hostages, a message he reiterated in a social media post Wednesday.The weeks-long efforts to try to get a big group of hostages out have brought to light a myriad of complexities. The hostages, who are of various nationalities, are not believed to be in one location and it is not clear exactly how many of them are in Gaza; communication with Hamas is slow; and there are concerns about how to safely move any big group of civilians through Gaza when the strip is under constant bombardment. Officials have also stressed that Hamas is far from a typical and by any means a trustworthy negotiating partner. Frankly, we're dealing with Hamas, a senior administration official said. This is not something that anyone is expecting [to be conducted in] good faith.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 11/08/23 4:41:17 PM #53:	I dont see why Israel should agree to anything with regards to Hamas itself without the release of all hostages. Ideally Id like its leaders in handcuffs, but seriously doing anything that involves leaving people in Gaza at their mercy while Hamas rearms makes absolutely no sense, given the fact that the last time Israel was in this position, it took five years to get Gilad Shalit out. That being said, from a humanitarian perspective, the best thing Israel could do right now is agree to a two or three day ceasefire with the understanding that they will provide humanitarian aid to civilians - and allow UN workers to do what they need to do. The tactical disadvantages theyll have to put up with as a result are worth showing the world that they actually give a damn about the people of Palestine, regardless of the current fate of the hostages. I do not see that to be remotely unreasonable, and I also think a pledge to help rebuild Gaza should be made as well. I also believe the time is now for the Israeli public to tell those West Bank settlers to take a hike back into Israel proper. If Israel truly wants to rebuild its image as a country that isnt committing genocide - I mean those are good starting points. Israel, in my estimation, made a massive tactical error here. By assuming the world was just going to be ok with taking any measure to eliminate Hamas like it was with the wars against Al Queda and ISIS, it forgot that if you are going to play the role of the good guy, you have to act like it. Now is as good a time as any to remember that. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:977108093] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>I dont see why Israel should agree to anything with regards to Hamas itself without the release of all hostages. Ideally Id like its leaders in handcuffs, but seriously doing anything that involves leaving people in Gaza at their mercy while Hamas rearms makes absolutely no sense, given the fact that the last time Israel was in this position, it took five years to get Gilad Shalit out.That being said, from a humanitarian perspective, the best thing Israel could do right now is agree to a two or three day ceasefire with the understanding that they will provide humanitarian aid to civilians - and allow UN workers to do what they need to do. The tactical disadvantages theyll have to put up with as a result are worth showing the world that they actually give a damn about the people of Palestine, regardless of the current fate of the hostages. I do not see that to be remotely unreasonable, and I also think a pledge to help rebuild Gaza should be made as well.I also believe the time is now for the Israeli public to tell those West Bank settlers to take a hike back into Israel proper. If Israel truly wants to rebuild its image as a country that isnt committing genocide - I mean those are good starting points.Israel, in my estimation, made a massive tactical error here. By assuming the world was just going to be ok with taking any measure to eliminate Hamas like it was with the wars against Al Queda and ISIS, it forgot that if you are going to play the role of the good guy, you have to act like it. Now is as good a time as any to remember that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltAccount3 11/08/23 7:14:49 PM #54:	10,569 Palestinians dead in Gaza, 26,475 injured. (WaPo) https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/08/israel-war-news-hamas-gaza-palestine/ 160+ Palestinians dead in West Bank (AP) https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-11-08-2023-ddf02616ad9bdfc6d311e89c0315874d IDF toll remains at 34 Hezbollah threatens U.S. with high-powered anti-ship missiles. U.S. taking threat very seriously https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hezbollahs-anti-ship-missiles-bolster-its-threat-us-navy-2023-11-08/ Yemen Houthis shoot down $32M U.S. Reaper drone. https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1722354433114181948 U.S. bombs Syrian weapons storage facility after taking 61 attacks from them. https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1722384717607993505l Syria responds with attack on U.S. facility. https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/1722385649980867071 Footage from the heart of warzone in Gaza (Not MGS4 this time) https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1722343531451240496 --- VFalcone, one of many <cite>AltAccount3 posted [p:977110399] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>10,569 Palestinians dead in Gaza, 26,475 injured. (WaPo) https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/08/israel-war-news-hamas-gaza-palestine/160+ Palestinians dead in West Bank (AP) https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-11-08-2023-ddf02616ad9bdfc6d311e89c0315874dIDF toll remains at 34Hezbollah threatens U.S. with high-powered anti-ship missiles. U.S. taking threat very seriously https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hezbollahs-anti-ship-missiles-bolster-its-threat-us-navy-2023-11-08/Yemen Houthis shoot down $32M U.S. Reaper drone. https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1722354433114181948U.S. bombs Syrian weapons storage facility after taking 61 attacks from them. https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1722384717607993505lSyria responds with attack on U.S. facility. https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/1722385649980867071Footage from the heart of warzone in Gaza (Not MGS4 this time) https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1722343531451240496 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kibouno 11/08/23 8:31:30 PM #55:	The international community should step up and be like Superman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcFHHfCfW0 AltAccount3 posted... * Footage from the heart of warzone in Gaza (Not MGS4 this time) https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1722343531451240496 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGf2b1H91JA <cite>Kibouno posted [p:977111821] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>The international community should step up and be like Superman:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcFHHfCfW0AltAccount3 posted... </cite><quote>* Footage from the heart of warzone in Gaza (Not MGS4 this time) https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1722343531451240496</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGf2b1H91JA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NhojAnec 11/08/23 8:48:31 PM #56:	Kibouno posted... The international community should step up and be like Superman: you do know that clip is from the injustice animated movie (based on the comic line of the same name) where superman forces peace on earth by making himself earth's dictator and becoming an evil tyrant right? so yeah, he creates world peace................but he turns earth into one big police state where you cant even protest against superman or else youd be jailed --- legitimate bond forever <cite>NhojAnec posted [p:977112143] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Kibouno posted... </cite><quote>The international community should step up and be like Superman:</quote>you do know that clip is from the injustice animated movie (based on the comic line of the same name) where superman forces peace on earth by making himself earth's dictator and becoming an evil tyrant right? so yeah, he creates world peace................but he turns earth into one big police state where you cant even protest against superman or else youd be jailed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ferarri619 11/09/23 6:10:00 AM #57:	If Hamas leaders are in Qatar, isn't it pointless to bomb Gaza and can't Israel get cooperation from Qatar government to kill Hamas leaders? --- ~Nintendo 64. Get N or Get out. Coming Fall 1996~ <cite>Ferarri619 posted [p:977117667] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>If Hamas leaders are in Qatar, isn't it pointless to bomb Gaza and can't Israel get cooperation from Qatar government to kill Hamas leaders? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 11/09/23 7:23:47 AM #58:	Ferarri619 posted... If Hamas leaders are in Qatar, isn't it pointless to bomb Gaza and can't Israel get cooperation from Qatar government to kill Hamas leaders? No. Strategically, Hamas is in Gaza. Just because you have a couple of Billionaires doing a god awful George Washington impression in Qatar, the attack came within Gaza. From a tactical standpoint alone, it makes sense to try and make sure not a single representative of Hamas remains in Gaza. Now, the fact that Israel is going about it by leveling every city blockfrom a humanitarian position, thats beyond the pale. If defeating your enemy means you become them, what did you win? --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:977118339] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Ferarri619 posted... </cite><quote>If Hamas leaders are in Qatar, isn't it pointless to bomb Gaza and can't Israel get cooperation from Qatar government to kill Hamas leaders?</quote>No. Strategically, Hamas is in Gaza. Just because you have a couple of Billionaires doing a god awful George Washington impression in Qatar, the attack came within Gaza. From a tactical standpoint alone, it makes sense to try and make sure not a single representative of Hamas remains in Gaza.Now, the fact that Israel is going about it by leveling every city blockfrom a humanitarian position, thats beyond the pale. If defeating your enemy means you become them, what did you win? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/09/23 7:29:38 AM #59:	AltAccount3 posted... The "human shield" narrative keeps getting tossed around constantly but I have yet to see anything from verified sources showing or describing Hamas actually using babies as human shields. Only random people getting killed without Hamas even being in the area. The IDF says there are 30,000 Hamas in Gaza. There are roughly 2.3M people in total. That's 1.3% of the population who are Hamas. Gaza is 140.9 sq mi in size, or 365 sq km. Meaning there are at least 213 Hamas members per square mile/82 per square kilometer at any given moment throughout the entirety of Gaza. All that laid out means actually hitting ANY Hamas member per sq mi/km is actually pretty damn unlikely, compared to a citizen. I'm pretty sure idiots are just saying that Hamas existing near civilians is "human shields". Like, apparently the US military could start indiscriminately bombing New York City if they learned that terrorists are somewhere in it. And all those dead innocent people would be 100% the fault of the terrorists for not hiding in "Terrorist Central" in some remote forest or desert. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:977118393] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>AltAccount3 posted... </cite><quote>The "human shield" narrative keeps getting tossed around constantly but I have yet to see anything from verified sources showing or describing Hamas actually using babies as human shields. Only random people getting killed without Hamas even being in the area.The IDF says there are 30,000 Hamas in Gaza. There are roughly 2.3M people in total. That's 1.3% of the population who are Hamas. Gaza is 140.9 sq mi in size, or 365 sq km. Meaning there are at least 213 Hamas members per square mile/82 per square kilometer at any given moment throughout the entirety of Gaza.All that laid out means actually hitting ANY Hamas member per sq mi/km is actually pretty damn unlikely, compared to a citizen.</quote>I'm pretty sure idiots are just saying that Hamas existing near civilians is "human shields". Like, apparently the US military could start indiscriminately bombing New York City if they learned that terrorists are somewhere in it. And all those dead innocent people would be 100% the fault of the terrorists for not hiding in "Terrorist Central" in some remote forest or desert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 11/09/23 7:35:07 AM #60:	hockeybub89 posted... I'm pretty sure idiots are just saying that Hamas existing near civilians is "human shields". No. Thats just what the term actually means. It doesnt mean they are literally strapping kids to themselves. It means they are launching military operations against Israel from civilian areas or centers like schools and residential communities. There have been verified reports of this activity. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:977118449] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>I'm pretty sure idiots are just saying that Hamas existing near civilians is "human shields". </quote>No. Thats just what the term actually means. It doesnt mean they are literally strapping kids to themselves. It means they are launching military operations against Israel from civilian areas or centers like schools and residential communities. There have been verified reports of this activity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/09/23 7:38:26 AM #61:	whitelytning posted... No. Thats just what the term actually means. It doesnt mean they are literally strapping kids to themselves. It means they are launching military operations against Israel from civilian areas or centers like schools and residential communities. There have been verified reports of this activity. And that is a shoddy justification for killing innocent people. There are billions of people on earth. Of course most of the bad people will be living near other people. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:977118485] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted... </cite><quote>No. Thats just what the term actually means. It doesnt mean they are literally strapping kids to themselves. It means they are launching military operations against Israel from civilian areas or centers like schools and residential communities. There have been verified reports of this activity.</quote>And that is a shoddy justification for killing innocent people. There are billions of people on earth. Of course most of the bad people will be living near other people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 11/09/23 7:39:49 AM #62:	hockeybub89 posted... And that is a shoddy justification for killing innocent people. There are billions of people on earth. Of course most of the bad people will be living near other people. It isnt about where bad people live. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:977118504] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>And that is a shoddy justification for killing innocent people. There are billions of people on earth. Of course most of the bad people will be living near other people.</quote>It isnt about where bad people live. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 11/09/23 7:41:57 AM #63:	whitelytning posted... It isnt about where bad people live. Shut the fuck up and just say "I don't care what happens to Palestinians so long as Israel is allowed to get it's revenge". --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:977118527] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted... </cite><quote>It isnt about where bad people live.</quote>Shut the fuck up and just say "I don't care what happens to Palestinians so long as Israel is allowed to get it's revenge". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 11/09/23 7:45:46 AM #64:	ScazarMeltex posted... Shut the fuck up and just say "I don't care what happens to Palestinians so long as Israel is allowed to get it's revenge". ? How do you get to there from what I posted? What did I say to get you that mad? Im literally just talking about what human shield means because the one user clearly doesnt understand. I havent made any statement about if anyone is justified in any type of act or if one side is more justified than another. Why make something up that I didnt say to attack me so fast? --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:977118559] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite><quote>Shut the fuck up and just say "I don't care what happens to Palestinians so long as Israel is allowed to get it's revenge".</quote>? How do you get to there from what I posted? What did I say to get you that mad? Im literally just talking about what human shield means because the one user clearly doesnt understand. I havent made any statement about if anyone is justified in any type of act or if one side is more justified than another. Why make something up that I didnt say to attack me so fast? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurai_Shinjo 11/09/23 8:09:07 AM #65:	It looks like pro-Israel propagandists are plauging gamefaqs as well. <cite>Samurai_Shinjo posted [p:977118765] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>It looks like pro-Israel propagandists are plauging gamefaqs as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 11/09/23 8:13:39 AM #66:	Un last nighthttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/540b7e05.jpg --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:977118812] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Un last nighthttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/540b7e05.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 11/09/23 8:39:20 AM #67:	whitelytning posted... ? How do you get to there from what I posted? What did I say to get you that mad? Im literally just talking about what human shield means because the one user clearly doesnt understand. I havent made any statement about if anyone is justified in any type of act or if one side is more justified than another. Why make something up that I didnt say to attack me so fast? Dont worry about it. Ive been putting up with that nonsense since the whole thing began. For some strange reason on the board the statements Israel has the right to defend itself and I dont care what happens to Palestinians mean the same thing. And you didnt even go that far, and they still jumped down your throat. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:977119096] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted... </cite><quote>? How do you get to there from what I posted? What did I say to get you that mad? Im literally just talking about what human shield means because the one user clearly doesnt understand. I havent made any statement about if anyone is justified in any type of act or if one side is more justified than another. Why make something up that I didnt say to attack me so fast?</quote>Dont worry about it. Ive been putting up with that nonsense since the whole thing began. For some strange reason on the board the statements Israel has the right to defend itself and I dont care what happens to Palestinians mean the same thing. And you didnt even go that far, and they still jumped down your throat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/09/23 8:42:27 AM #68:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... For some strange reason on the board the statements Israel has the right to defend itself and I dont care what happens to Palestinians mean the same thing. Because people can see in real time how Israel interprets that right to self defense. --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:977119133] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>For some strange reason on the board the statements Israel has the right to defend itself and I dont care what happens to Palestinians mean the same thing.</quote>Because people can see in real time how Israel interprets that right to self defense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 11/09/23 8:46:17 AM #69:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Dont worry about it. Ive been putting up with that nonsense since the whole thing began. For some strange reason on the board the statements Israel has the right to defend itself and I dont care what happens to Palestinians mean the same thing. And you didnt even go that far, and they still jumped down your throat. You're correct. And it's mirrored by 'I don't think Israel should bomb civilians' being taken to mean 'I support Hamas and the destruction of Israel'. --- Nothing works/Everything's expensive/And opaque/And privatised/My shoe organising thing arrived/Thank God <cite>ai123 posted [p:977119178] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Dont worry about it. Ive been putting up with that nonsense since the whole thing began. For some strange reason on the board the statements Israel has the right to defend itself and I dont care what happens to Palestinians mean the same thing. And you didnt even go that far, and they still jumped down your throat.</quote>You're correct.And it's mirrored by 'I don't think Israel should bomb civilians' being taken to mean 'I support Hamas and the destruction of Israel'. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltAccount3 11/09/23 8:46:37 AM #70:	R1masher posted... Un last nighthttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/540b7e05.jpg Context? --- VFalcone, one of many <cite>AltAccount3 posted [p:977119183] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>R1masher posted... </cite><quote>Un last nighthttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/540b7e05.jpg</quote>Context? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/09/23 8:47:19 AM #71:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Dont worry about it. Ive been putting up with that nonsense since the whole thing began. Bullshit. You have repeatedly inferred that you think Hamas is the only party with agency here and that Israel's indiscriminate harassment and murder of civilians (which it's been doing for seven and a half decades) is something they are inevitably forced to do. That the apartheid treatment of Palestinian people will magically end if Hamas surrenders. You and other shills have gone on record saying exactly that. Hamas deserves no sympathy. The Israeli government also deserves no sympathy. Until you acknowledge both these facts I will not accept your claim to care about civilians. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977119191] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Dont worry about it. Ive been putting up with that nonsense since the whole thing began.</quote>Bullshit. You have repeatedly inferred that you think Hamas is the only party with agency here and that Israel's indiscriminate harassment and murder of civilians (which it's been doing for seven and a half decades) is something they are inevitably forced to do. That the apartheid treatment of Palestinian people will magically end if Hamas surrenders. You and other shills have gone on record saying exactly that.Hamas deserves no sympathy. The Israeli government also deserves no sympathy.Until you acknowledge both these facts I will not accept your claim to care about civilians. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/09/23 8:52:16 AM #72:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Dont worry about it. Ive been putting up with that nonsense since the whole thing began. For some strange reason on the board the statements Israel has the right to defend itself and I dont care what happens to Palestinians mean the same thing. And you didnt even go that far, and they still jumped down your throat. You don't really care what happens to Palestinians. You think it's a shame what is going on, but at the end of the day, you believe "Israel has a right to defend itself" whitelytning posted... It isnt about where bad people live. I mean, no shit terrorists are going to hide amongst populated areas. And you know what? Calling their bluff and bombing right through the civilians honestly makes the "defenders" just as bad. It's like opening fire on a crowded bank because the robbers are deliberately using it as cover. And it's even worse since Israel never cared about Palestinians before the recent attacks. They love having an excuse to not even pretend to worry about civilian casualties. I mean, look how they count every single dead Palestinian as a "terrorist killed". --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:977119228] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Dont worry about it. Ive been putting up with that nonsense since the whole thing began. For some strange reason on the board the statements Israel has the right to defend itself and I dont care what happens to Palestinians mean the same thing. And you didnt even go that far, and they still jumped down your throat.</quote>You don't really care what happens to Palestinians. You think it's a shame what is going on, but at the end of the day, you believe "Israel has a right to defend itself"whitelytning posted... </cite><quote>It isnt about where bad people live.</quote>I mean, no shit terrorists are going to hide amongst populated areas. And you know what? Calling their bluff and bombing right through the civilians honestly makes the "defenders" just as bad. It's like opening fire on a crowded bank because the robbers are deliberately using it as cover. And it's even worse since Israel never cared about Palestinians before the recent attacks. They love having an excuse to not even pretend to worry about civilian casualties. I mean, look how they count every single dead Palestinian as a "terrorist killed". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/09/23 8:54:41 AM #73:	Dark_Arbron posted... Bullshit. You have repeatedly inferred that you think Hamas is the only party with agency here and that Israel's indiscriminate harassment and murder of civilians (which it's been doing for seven and a half decades) is something they are inevitably forced to do. That the apartheid treatment of Palestinian people will magically end if Hamas surrenders. You and other shills have gone on record saying exactly that. Hamas deserves no sympathy. The Israeli government also deserves no sympathy. Until you acknowledge both these facts I will not accept your claim to care about civilians. I wish I'd kept a list of the people here who literally said Israel has zero responsibility for anything that happens post October 7th. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:977119260] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Bullshit. You have repeatedly inferred that you think Hamas is the only party with agency here and that Israel's indiscriminate harassment and murder of civilians (which it's been doing for seven and a half decades) is something they are inevitably forced to do. That the apartheid treatment of Palestinian people will magically end if Hamas surrenders. You and other shills have gone on record saying exactly that.Hamas deserves no sympathy. The Israeli government also deserves no sympathy.Until you acknowledge both these facts I will not accept your claim to care about civilians.</quote>I wish I'd kept a list of the people here who literally said Israel has zero responsibility for anything that happens post October 7th. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 11/09/23 9:03:13 AM #74:	AltAccount3 posted... Context? rally I was at last night, theres another at Bryant park today --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:977119334] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>AltAccount3 posted... </cite><quote>Context?</quote>rally I was at last night, theres another at Bryant park today </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
punkfanalways 11/09/23 9:04:50 AM #75:	hockeybub89 posted... And that is a shoddy justification for killing innocent people. There are billions of people on earth. Of course most of the bad people will be living near other people. Well thats a strawman if ever I saw one. Wdf is saying that? Not the guy you responded to. <cite>punkfanalways posted [p:977119354] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>And that is a shoddy justification for killing innocent people. There are billions of people on earth. Of course most of the bad people will be living near other people.</quote>Well thats a strawman if ever I saw one. Wdf is saying that? Not the guy you responded to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZechtAurion 11/09/23 9:05:50 AM #76:	https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nL7eVWZ9XdA Isn't this one from Hitler's playbook? <cite>ZechtAurion posted [p:977119366] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nL7eVWZ9XdAIsn't this one from Hitler's playbook?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/09/23 9:10:52 AM #77:	ZechtAurion posted... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nL7eVWZ9XdA Isn't this one from Hitler's playbook? What thugs. They just made up some shit based on her ethnic identity. She may very well secretly sympathize with her own people. But I bet she never did anything against the Israeli government <cite>Zikten posted [p:977119424] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>ZechtAurion posted... </cite><quote>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nL7eVWZ9XdAIsn't this one from Hitler's playbook?</quote>What thugs. They just made up some shit based on her ethnic identity. She may very well secretly sympathize with her own people. But I bet she never did anything against the Israeli government </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/09/23 9:14:46 AM #78:	punkfanalways posted... Well thats a strawman if ever I saw one. Wdf is saying that? Not the guy you responded to. I'm just ranting. I'm know there are Israel shills reading my posts, who have justified the IDF's actions. And then we have people like @FlyEaglesFly24 , who has said people are lying if they say they would care what happens to innocent Palestinians if it was their family under attack. It's literally post-9/11 fear and hatemongering all over again. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:977119459] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>punkfanalways posted... </cite><quote>Well thats a strawman if ever I saw one. Wdf is saying that? Not the guy you responded to.</quote>I'm just ranting. I'm know there are Israel shills reading my posts, who have justified the IDF's actions.And then we have people like @FlyEaglesFly24 , who has said people are lying if they say they would care what happens to innocent Palestinians if it was their family under attack. It's literally post-9/11 fear and hatemongering all over again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/09/23 9:19:47 AM #79:	hockeybub89 posted... I'm just ranting. I'm know there are Israel shills reading my posts, who have justified the IDF's actions. And then we have people like @FlyEaglesFly24 , who has said people are lying if they say they would care what happens to innocent Palestinians if it was their family under attack. It's literally post-9/11 fear and hatemongering all over again. I'm curious if he's willing to answer my question "How is renouncing citizenship treason?" yet. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977119512] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>I'm just ranting. I'm know there are Israel shills reading my posts, who have justified the IDF's actions.And then we have people like @FlyEaglesFly24 , who has said people are lying if they say they would care what happens to innocent Palestinians if it was their family under attack. It's literally post-9/11 fear and hatemongering all over again.</quote>I'm curious if he's willing to answer my question "How is renouncing citizenship treason?" yet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltAccount3 11/09/23 10:17:44 AM #80:	https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/article-772410 *"Israel demands action after journalists reportedly joined Hamas massacre"* The media watchdog HonestReporting published an investigative report late on Wednesday showing that journalists from leading news outlets, including The New York Times, AP, Reuters and CNN, joined Hamas terrorists from the Gaza Strip on October 7 to document the horrific events with their cameras. The organization, which works to expose anti-Israel bias in the foreign press, raised weighty ethical questions in the investigation regarding the presence of those photographers alongside Hamas terrorists. Among other things, it begs the question of whether the photographers were aware in advance of the intent to carry out the massacre and how they arrived on the scene so quickly. Did Hamas allow them to be there? Did these news reporters have approval to enter Israel alongside the terrorists? Did the photographers inform their editors that they were accompanying the terrorists as they carried out the attacks against the Israelis? COME ON guys. Be better than this. This is shit. Alex Jones level. --- VFalcone, one of many <cite>AltAccount3 posted [p:977120272] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/article-772410"Israel demands action after journalists reportedly joined Hamas massacre"<quote>The media watchdog HonestReporting published an investigative report late on Wednesday showing that journalists from leading news outlets, including The New York Times, AP, Reuters and CNN, joined Hamas terrorists from the Gaza Strip on October 7 to document the horrific events with their cameras. The organization, which works to expose anti-Israel bias in the foreign press, raised weighty ethical questions in the investigation regarding the presence of those photographers alongside Hamas terrorists.Among other things, it begs the question of whether the photographers were aware in advance of the intent to carry out the massacre and how they arrived on the scene so quickly. Did Hamas allow them to be there? Did these news reporters have approval to enter Israel alongside the terrorists? Did the photographers inform their editors that they were accompanying the terrorists as they carried out the attacks against the Israelis?</quote>COME ON guys. Be better than this. This is shit. Alex Jones level. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZechtAurion 11/09/23 10:59:24 AM #81:	It's hilarious what kind of cartoon villain bs they'll go for when it doesn't suit their narrative. <cite>ZechtAurion posted [p:977120859] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>It's hilarious what kind of cartoon villain bs they'll go for when it doesn't suit their narrative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
name_unknown 11/09/23 11:01:26 AM #82:	Israel will begin 4-hour pauses of military operations in northern Gaza each day, US says From CNN's Kevin Liptak Israel will begin to implement four-hour pauses of military operations in areas of northern Gaza each day, the White House says, to allow for humanitarian assistance and to allow civilians to flee. Israel will announce the timing of the pauses three hours beforehand, according to John Kirby, a spokesperson for the US National Security Council. "We've been told by the Israelis that there will be no military operations in these areas over the duration of the pause, and that this process is starting today," Kirby said. <cite>name_unknown posted [p:977120893] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Israel will begin 4-hour pauses of military operations in northern Gaza each day, US says From CNN's Kevin LiptakIsrael will begin to implement four-hour pauses of military operations in areas of northern Gaza each day, the White House says, to allow for humanitarian assistance and to allow civilians to flee.Israel will announce the timing of the pauses three hours beforehand, according to John Kirby, a spokesperson for the US National Security Council.<quote>"We've been told by the Israelis that there will be no military operations in these areas over the duration of the pause, and that this process is starting today," Kirby said.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 11/09/23 11:05:57 AM #83:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Dont worry about it. Ive been putting up with that nonsense since the whole thing began. For some strange reason on the board the statements Israel has the right to defend itself and I dont care what happens to Palestinians mean the same thing. And you didnt even go that far, and they still jumped down your throat. Hey remember when you claimed people on CE were being anti-Semitic and when asked for evidence you just evaporated into thin air? Or when you claimed you'd stop posting about this stuff? You've been blatantly pro-Israel throughout all of this and incredibly salty when anyone dares criticize them. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:977120962] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Dont worry about it. Ive been putting up with that nonsense since the whole thing began. For some strange reason on the board the statements Israel has the right to defend itself and I dont care what happens to Palestinians mean the same thing. And you didnt even go that far, and they still jumped down your throat.</quote>Hey remember when you claimed people on CE were being anti-Semitic and when asked for evidence you just evaporated into thin air? Or when you claimed you'd stop posting about this stuff?You've been blatantly pro-Israel throughout all of this and incredibly salty when anyone dares criticize them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZechtAurion 11/09/23 11:55:03 AM #84:	https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1722527493780021654 <cite>ZechtAurion posted [p:977121755] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1722527493780021654</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/09/23 11:58:47 AM #85:	ZechtAurion posted... https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1722527493780021654 Warning to others, don't look at the replies to that tweet. Just a few down is a burned up car with actual scorched corpses sitting in them <cite>Zikten posted [p:977121816] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>ZechtAurion posted... </cite><quote>https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1722527493780021654</quote>Warning to others, don't look at the replies to that tweet. Just a few down is a burned up car with actual scorched corpses sitting in them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZechtAurion 11/09/23 12:46:15 PM #86:	lsraeli bombing in the vicinity of the Indonesian Hospital in Gaza Strip https://packaged-media.redd.it/2aes0neiwczb1/pb/m2-res_480p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1699567200&s=c94e6139b7c5d7b25ca994a6b267fc600df79bad#t=0 <cite>ZechtAurion posted [p:977122617] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>lsraeli bombing in the vicinity of the Indonesian Hospital in Gaza Striphttps://packaged-media.redd.it/2aes0neiwczb1/pb/m2-res_480p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1699567200&s=c94e6139b7c5d7b25ca994a6b267fc600df79bad#t=0</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 11/09/23 12:57:44 PM #87:	ai123 posted... You're correct. And it's mirrored by 'I don't think Israel should bomb civilians' being taken to mean 'I support Hamas and the destruction of Israel'. Yes it is. Which is equally idiotic for obvious reasons. Nuance on social media is a lost art. Although there are people here who have blatantly stated that Israel doesnt have the right to exist as well. But still, it has gotten to the point where its like neither side can talk to each other, which of course is a microcosm of the entire conflict. But hey, at least we got to the point where some humanitarian pauses are now being implemented, and from the footage Ive seen, it does show people being able to move. So thats good. Israeli estimated that only thirty thousand people in Gaza were Hamas fighters out of 2 million, so the more of them get to safety, the faster this thing can end and those hostages, god willing, can come home. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:977122793] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>You're correct.And it's mirrored by 'I don't think Israel should bomb civilians' being taken to mean 'I support Hamas and the destruction of Israel'.</quote>Yes it is. Which is equally idiotic for obvious reasons. Nuance on social media is a lost art. Although there are people here who have blatantly stated that Israel doesnt have the right to exist as well.But still, it has gotten to the point where its like neither side can talk to each other, which of course is a microcosm of the entire conflict. But hey, at least we got to the point where some humanitarian pauses are now being implemented, and from the footage Ive seen, it does show people being able to move. So thats good. Israeli estimated that only thirty thousand people in Gaza were Hamas fighters out of 2 million, so the more of them get to safety, the faster this thing can end and those hostages, god willing, can come home. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltAccount3 11/09/23 5:50:51 PM #88:	[BREAKING] 18 Palestinian civilians killed by IDF in Jenin, West Bank after a raid. Hours-long gunfight with militants resulted in many civilian deaths. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/eight-palestinians-killed-by-israeli-forces-jenin-palestinian-health-ministry-2023-11-09/#:~:text =RAMALLAH%2C%20Nov%209%20(Reuters),occupied%20West%20Bank%20in%20months. 10,818 Palestinians dead in Gaza, 26,905 injured. (WaPo) https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/09/israel-war-gaza-hamas-news-palestine/ 178 Palestinians dead in West Bank. Big hike after today's battle. (Reuters link) IDF invasion death toll remains at 34. No new info yet. U.S. says it has not found evidence of war crimes in Gaza. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-state-department-says-it-hasnt-so-far-found-evidence-for-israeli-war-crimes-in-gaza/ Senior Biden official says the Gaza death toll is likely far higher than what is being reported by health ministry. https://thehill.com/policy/international/4301551-gaza-deaths-likely-higher-than-cited-us-official/ Israel agrees to do 4hr pauses each day so civilians may have a window to escape and to potentially get more hostages freed. https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-humanitarian-pauses-b8fc613ffd8b9351c0dc37b90b6e10dd --- VFalcone, one of many <cite>AltAccount3 posted [p:977127870] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>[BREAKING] 18 Palestinian civilians killed by IDF in Jenin, West Bank after a raid. Hours-long gunfight with militants resulted in many civilian deaths. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/eight-palestinians-killed-by-israeli-forces-jenin-palestinian-health-ministry-2023-11-09/#:~:text =RAMALLAH%2C%20Nov%209%20(Reuters),occupied%20West%20Bank%20in%20months.10,818 Palestinians dead in Gaza, 26,905 injured. (WaPo) https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/09/israel-war-gaza-hamas-news-palestine/178 Palestinians dead in West Bank. Big hike after today's battle. (Reuters link)IDF invasion death toll remains at 34. No new info yet.U.S. says it has not found evidence of war crimes in Gaza. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-state-department-says-it-hasnt-so-far-found-evidence-for-israeli-war-crimes-in-gaza/Senior Biden official says the Gaza death toll is likely far higher than what is being reported by health ministry. https://thehill.com/policy/international/4301551-gaza-deaths-likely-higher-than-cited-us-official/Israel agrees to do 4hr pauses each day so civilians may have a window to escape and to potentially get more hostages freed. https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-humanitarian-pauses-b8fc613ffd8b9351c0dc37b90b6e10dd </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Godbe-Bryant 11/09/23 5:58:01 PM #89:	https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/17rdaxf/every_rocket_from_gaza_into_israel_in_the_last_30/ yeah no ceasefire is gonna happen --- Lakers <cite>Godbe-Bryant posted [p:977128011] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/17rdaxf/every_rocket_from_gaza_into_israel_in_the_last_30/yeah no ceasefire is gonna happen </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 11/09/23 8:54:56 PM #90:	Ferarri619 posted... If Hamas leaders are in Qatar, isn't it pointless to bomb Gaza and can't Israel get cooperation from Qatar government to kill Hamas leaders? It's not just pointless, it's counterproductive. Unless Israel is committed to wiping out everyone in Gaza, there are going to be a lot of really angry, displaced people who are perfect targets for Hamas' leadership to radicalize. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:977130919] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Ferarri619 posted... </cite><quote>If Hamas leaders are in Qatar, isn't it pointless to bomb Gaza and can't Israel get cooperation from Qatar government to kill Hamas leaders?</quote>It's not just pointless, it's counterproductive. Unless Israel is committed to wiping out everyone in Gaza, there are going to be a lot of really angry, displaced people who are perfect targets for Hamas' leadership to radicalize.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZechtAurion 11/09/23 11:18:18 PM #91:	https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/08/business/israel-palestine-google-employees.html <cite>ZechtAurion posted [p:977132879] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/08/business/israel-palestine-google-employees.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HHH_is_the_game 11/10/23 1:00:34 AM #92:	Its really not an issue that either side should be making sound one sided at this point. You will either say something offensive to one side or the other. But people should also stop referring to what Israel is doing as a genocide as if its fact. Its overly incisive and possibly offensive language when they are facing a genocidal group that unleashed a horrible terrorist attack upon them and wants to wipe them from the face of the Earth. But on the other hand going 100% pro Israel at this point is equally offensive and disrespectful to the loss of life on the other side --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver <cite>HHH_is_the_game posted [p:977133908] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Its really not an issue that either side should be making sound one sided at this point. You will either say something offensive to one side or the other. But people should also stop referring to what Israel is doing as a genocide as if its fact. Its overly incisive and possibly offensive language when they are facing a genocidal group that unleashed a horrible terrorist attack upon them and wants to wipe them from the face of the Earth. But on the other hand going 100% pro Israel at this point is equally offensive and disrespectful to the loss of life on the other side </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/10/23 1:07:52 AM #93:	HHH_is_the_game posted... Its overly incisive and possibly offensive language when they are facing a genocidal group that unleashed a horrible terrorist attack upon them and wants to wipe them from the face of the Earth. If you ignore the fact that Netanyahu feels the same way about Palestinians as Hamas does Jews, sure. And if you also ignore the brutal, systematic mistreatment of Gaza in the years preceding the terrorist attack. You can definitely say both sides have genocide on their mind, and the Israeli government has definitely been trying to carry it out. Again, every Palestinian death is publicly counted as a terrorist death by the IDF. And just this year there was that speech where it was said There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation. There is no Palestinian history." --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:977133973] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>HHH_is_the_game posted... </cite><quote>Its overly incisive and possibly offensive language when they are facing a genocidal group that unleashed a horrible terrorist attack upon them and wants to wipe them from the face of the Earth.</quote>If you ignore the fact that Netanyahu feels the same way about Palestinians as Hamas does Jews, sure. And if you also ignore the brutal, systematic mistreatment of Gaza in the years preceding the terrorist attack. You can definitely say both sides have genocide on their mind, and the Israeli government has definitely been trying to carry it out.Again, every Palestinian death is publicly counted as a terrorist death by the IDF. And just this year there was that speech where it was said There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation. There is no Palestinian history." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahel 11/10/23 1:29:20 AM #94:	hockeybub89 posted... If you ignore the fact that Netanyahu feels the same way about Palestinians as Hamas does Jews, sure. And if you also ignore the brutal, systematic mistreatment of Gaza in the years preceding the terrorist attack. You can definitely say both sides have genocide on their mind, and the Israeli government has definitely been trying to carry it out. Again, every Palestinian death is publicly counted as a terrorist death by the IDF. And just this year there was that speech where it was said There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation. There is no Palestinian history." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dysc9EWvi24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJUXKq2bgQ8 --- "Games don't get worse over time. Only your expectations change. A game from 1999 is going to play the same in 2017." - Vegeta1000 <cite>Sahel posted [p:977134174] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>If you ignore the fact that Netanyahu feels the same way about Palestinians as Hamas does Jews, sure. And if you also ignore the brutal, systematic mistreatment of Gaza in the years preceding the terrorist attack. You can definitely say both sides have genocide on their mind, and the Israeli government has definitely been trying to carry it out.Again, every Palestinian death is publicly counted as a terrorist death by the IDF. And just this year there was that speech where it was said There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation. There is no Palestinian history."</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dysc9EWvi24https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJUXKq2bgQ8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/10/23 3:33:15 AM #95:	If Israel deserves a nation, so too does Palestine. If there is any justice, the nation of Palestine will exist one day. And future generations will hold Israel to account for what they did. I think there will be a generation of Israelis who will have to own up to their past and make amends. Similar to what post Hitler Germany had to go through <cite>Zikten posted [p:977134997] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>If Israel deserves a nation, so too does Palestine. If there is any justice, the nation of Palestine will exist one day. And future generations will hold Israel to account for what they did. I think there will be a generation of Israelis who will have to own up to their past and make amends. Similar to what post Hitler Germany had to go through</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
punkfanalways 11/10/23 3:34:17 AM #96:	Wow. Literally comparing Israel to Nazi Germany. Ive seen some takes but Jesus Christ. <cite>punkfanalways posted [p:977135003] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Wow. Literally comparing Israel to Nazi Germany. Ive seen some takes but Jesus Christ. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/10/23 3:34:57 AM #97:	punkfanalways posted... Wow. Literally comparing Israel to Nazi Germany. Ive seen some takes but Jesus Christ. Sorry that you don't see the truth <cite>Zikten posted [p:977135006] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>punkfanalways posted... </cite><quote>Wow. Literally comparing Israel to Nazi Germany. Ive seen some takes but Jesus Christ.</quote>Sorry that you don't see the truth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 11/10/23 3:36:13 AM #98:	punkfanalways posted... Wow. Literally comparing Israel to Nazi Germany. Ive seen some takes but Jesus Christ. It's a pretty valid comparison at this point. If Israel is offended by that statement, perhaps they should consider not being so Hitler-like. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. <cite>Trumble posted [p:977135010] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>punkfanalways posted... </cite><quote>Wow. Literally comparing Israel to Nazi Germany. Ive seen some takes but Jesus Christ.</quote>It's a pretty valid comparison at this point.If Israel is offended by that statement, perhaps they should consider not being so Hitler-like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kai_Laguna 11/10/23 3:51:56 AM #99:	punkfanalways posted... Wow. Literally comparing Israel to Nazi Germany. Ive seen some takes but Jesus Christ. If the hobnail boot fits... <cite>Kai_Laguna posted [p:977135075] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>punkfanalways posted... </cite><quote>Wow. Literally comparing Israel to Nazi Germany. Ive seen some takes but Jesus Christ.</quote>If the hobnail boot fits...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 11/10/23 5:57:25 AM #100:	hockeybub89 posted... Calling their bluff and bombing right through the civilians honestly makes the "defenders" just as bad. It's like opening fire on a crowded bank because the robbers are deliberately using it as cover. Reminds me of a story where cops shot up the queue outside a restaurant or nightclub, injuring several and killing at least one... while not once hitting the suspect they were pursuing into the area. A shame I can't dig into the 261 archives and find that instance, but maybe someone else remembers it? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:977135764] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Calling their bluff and bombing right through the civilians honestly makes the "defenders" just as bad. It's like opening fire on a crowded bank because the robbers are deliberately using it as cover.</quote>Reminds me of a story where cops shot up the queue outside a restaurant or nightclub, injuring several and killing at least one... while not once hitting the suspect they were pursuing into the area.A shame I can't dig into the 261 archives and find that instance, but maybe someone else remembers it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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