Current Events > Titanic tourist sub goes missing.

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Of course its the job of the rescue teams, they exist to rescue people from the sea no matter how they ended up in distress (the clue is in the name after all).

Of course its the job of the rescue teams, they exist to rescue people from the sea no matter how they ended up in distress (the clue is in the name after all)

You're probably safer in an airplane

At first I was like, "well, it's a submarine, not some tin can with people in it, should be reasonable safe, I woulc not blame them that much for putting themselfes in such danger"

Then I saw the images of the tin can with a cheap gamepad in it.

What the fuck, how can anyone spend such amount of money to sit in such a tin can, and let it dive down to 3.800 meter?

It simply doesn't look trustworthy at all. I'm sure that it's probably technically fine and such, but it just looks like "smallest cost possible"

There's no probably about it. Air travel is statistically the safest method of travel there is.

I can't believe that a few rich chumps built and then went down to the depths in a metal tube with TV screens. Not windows to peer out of. Literal TV screens.
An unmanned submersible delivers the exact same experience without the, you know, high chance of death should anything go terribly wrong.

I mean, sure, but I'm not even sure the US, Russian, British, or Chinese Navies REALLY have procedures to rescue submariners. Most of them accept that if something goes wrong, they're dead. And that sort of plays out in the history of submarine accidents. The boat sinks, and inevitably passes crush depth.

And to add to it, those "deep submergence rescue vessels" you'll occasionally see on pictures of US subs? Most of them are fake, or rather, they aren't a DSRV, they're a dive lockout chamber for special operations divers.

Really, "deep sea tourism" is a horrible market to try and crack because most people are not the type to take well to being in a submarine. You're probably safer in an airplane, and much like a plane, shit can go incredibly wrong, very fast, and the last thing you want is someone panicking.

I wonder if the passengers were told of the lack of safety systems in place before they boarded

David Pogue, a reporter who went on the expedition in 2022, stated that all individuals who go aboard the Titan sign a waiver indicating they know it is an "experimental" vessel, "that has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body, and could result in physical injury, disability, emotional trauma or death".[6]

They still have to try, they can't just say "well its a sub, no point in trying"

How often do you really travel by air, and how often do airplanes run into traffic?

We have had two mid-air collision this year alone, even if one was between two helicopters.

What metric do they use? Is it just number of accidents or does it take into account chances of dying in a plane accident vs car accident?

I imagine proportionality there are more car crashes but I imagine most of them are fender benders etc where people walk away. When a plane crashes it tends to be a lot more fatal and a lot more people dying at the same time.

It disappearing while en route probably means it suddenly sprang a leak and imploded immediately after, and what remains of it is a debree field of metal shards scattered over a few square miles.

It locks up from the outside with no way of getting out

I would assume they would have been made to sign a waiver buuuuut even so, I am dumbfounded at the fact they thought it was worth the risk

the orcas have gone too far this time

That's a seriously ominous waiver. I would absolutely nope out at that point, personally.

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That's a seriously ominous waiver. I would absolutely nope out at that point, personally.

Wait, Mike Reiss, as in former Simpsons writer and showrunner Mike Reiss? That's crazy

Kinda sounds like the Titanic

The Titanic met all the safety regulations of the time. The disaster resulted in new laws and regulations being established on both sides of the Atlantic.

I don't care if these people want to spend their money on this shit.

I do care when the US government has to spend money saving them when any rational adult would have seen an experimental sub controlled by a playstation remote exploring the titanic wreckage was not a solid idea. Especially when shit like school lunches are getting cut

Yeah. The issue with Titanic wasn't just "there weren't enough lifeboats." Legally, Titanic exceeded the lifeboat requirement. The real issue was the laws were woefully obsolete compared to the sizes of ocean liners. There's also the fact that the Titanic's main prop didn't reverse, which the movie actually correctly shows. Normally, reversing the prop will help the boat turn faster, but if water doesn't flow over it.... Well it's not helping.

As an aside, I personally subscribe to an alternate theory of "pack ice" rather than an iceberg because I can't fathom not seeing a giant mountain in the water.

Finally caught up on this story. I can only hope they went quick and aren't sitting on the ocean floor right now. That's fucking terrifying.

What if the damn controller just needs batteries...?

Finally caught up on this story. I can only hope they went quick and aren't sitting on the ocean floor right now. That's fucking terrifying.

Read a bit more on this.
Descent time to the wreck is circa 150 minutes, but contact to the sub was lost about 90 minutes into the dive. That's not at all good. If it had reached the bottom and then lost contact, then the assumption would be that it came into contact with the wreck and that was the end of its story. Tragic, but locating it would be relatively easy.

It disappearing while en route probably means it suddenly sprang a leak and imploded immediately after, and what remains of it is a debree field of metal shards scattered over a few square miles.

https://twitter.com/MikeReissWriter/status/1670814363802894336

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