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FFDragon
03/08/23 11:42:44 AM
#351:


I think the NFLPA has been taking advantage of Lamar not having an agent by pushing him to go all in on this, and whether or not there's active collusion going on I think all the owners are at least side-eyeing each other and shaking their heads.

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LeonhartFour
03/08/23 11:44:21 AM
#352:


Dan Snyder should just give him a fully guaranteed contract on the way out as a double middle fingers move to the rest of the owners and to Baltimore by D.C. stealing him from them

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Crescent-Moon
03/08/23 11:46:09 AM
#353:


Thorn posted...
as someone with 20 years of experience watching this team

think again
Faith in the Jets? How? WHY!?

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Crescent-Moon
03/08/23 11:47:27 AM
#354:


Thorn posted...
It's not about Lamar specifically either! I'm claiming the owners collectively are acting to try and close the box of fully guaranteed contracts.

I agree with Leon that it is weird for teams to so quickly declare no interest here... unless it's because it's public knowledge that Lamar is demanding a guaranteed contract and that no owner wants to make it go from an aberration to a trend. And I kinda refuse to believe there's not another owner out there willing to do it unless there was something of a collective gentleman's agreement to try and close the box.
The Raiders apparently expressed some sort of interest, or at least not an instant no.

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Emeraldegg
03/08/23 12:05:36 PM
#356:


I don't really get the collusion angle. There's a cap, owners only have to worry about spending so much as it is. If a contract isn't fully guaranteed, they're just using that money to go elsewhere instead. The money is going somewhere regardless.

Also, wasn't cousins' deal fully guaranteed? Watson isn't even the first time it's happened, if it was gonna become a trend then it would've started en masse after cousins.

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LeonhartFour
03/08/23 12:06:37 PM
#357:


Cousins' contract was fully guaranteed, but it was for like a third of what QBs are going for now.

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Thorn
03/08/23 12:10:36 PM
#358:


Emeraldegg posted...
Also, wasn't cousins' deal fully guaranteed? Watson isn't even the first time it's happened, if it was gonna become a trend then it would've started en masse after cousins.
That's fair. I guess I mean at the top level of QB contracts. Cousins' was 3 years/$84m and $28m a year is a whole different ball game from the $46-$50m at the high end today. Granted, the QB market constantly gets reset so even though that was only 5 years ago that was probably a lot closer to high-end back then.

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KingButz
03/08/23 12:12:15 PM
#359:


When Cousins signed that contract, it was on the higher end. Not record-breaking or anything, but still high.

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LeonhartFour
03/08/23 12:13:33 PM
#360:


And he actually took less than what the Jets offered simply because it was fully guaranteed.

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Emeraldegg
03/08/23 1:53:53 PM
#361:


Thorn posted...
the QB market constantly gets reset so even though that was only 5 years ago that was probably a lot closer to high-end back then.
Yeah this is what I was kind of going for. People scoffed (and still do) at cousins deal but I just would have expected more foresight from an nfl team, esp one as seemingly well run as the ravens. What seems outlandish for daniel jones might be totally bargain-worthy in another 5 years and if he's good then the giants look like geniuses. And I would much rather take that gamble on a guy like lamar than on jones.

Like would you rather have cousins at 28M a year or jones at 40M a year? I would take cousins. And the ravens, even if they're worried about health, are basically presented the same scenario and are going "no." You just don't do that. You have guys like burrow and herbert who are going to get monster deals next year probably, and the ravens had a chance to jump under that and now they've flubbed that. Now if they want lamar they're paying even more than if they had just bit the bullet and overpaid "some."

The bottom line is, if you want a franchise qb, you must overpay. Whether drafted or signed via FA, it doesn't matter. QBs will be overpaid. You aren't being smart by refusing that, you're fighting a money battle that's impossible to win. No one is bidding for lamar "now" but they absolutely will be once the 2 1sts requirement is lifted. If Lamar wants a fully guaranteed deal, he will get it somewhere. You might as well make sure it's you.

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Leonhart4
03/08/23 2:13:11 PM
#362:


The Ravens are still living off the reputation of being a "well run organization" even though Ozzie Newsome hasn't been in charge for like 5 years now.

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LeonhartFour
03/08/23 10:51:26 PM
#363:


https://twitter.com/iamSauceGardner/status/1633584953328893953

Sauce Gardner recruiting hard

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Crescent-Moon
03/09/23 11:03:25 AM
#364:


Oh boy it looks like I'm going to see Rodgers constantly overthrowing receivers and blaming the receivers almost every week instead of 3-4 weeks.

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Leonhart4
03/09/23 12:19:30 PM
#365:


https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/1633808745737203712

Starting to look like this is actually going to happen.

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Ashethan
03/09/23 1:03:42 PM
#366:


Hey, it worked out for the Rams! Granted the Rams are in the NFC and the competition was basically Jimmy G and AARP Tom Brady, while the Jets are in the AFC and the competition is Josh Allen, Tua, Trevor Lawrence, Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and Justin Herbert. Jets do have quite a bit of talent, though. Probably Rodgers best bet at winning another playoff game.

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_PandaMaster_
03/09/23 4:01:56 PM
#367:


Stafford on the trade block.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1633926840036343808
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Leonhart4
03/09/23 4:24:39 PM
#368:


I feel like there's a nonzero chance Stafford never plays again. Sounds like his elbow still isn't totally healed.

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RaidenGarai
03/09/23 8:19:02 PM
#369:


Rodgers needs to go.

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Ashethan
03/10/23 1:49:24 PM
#370:


_PandaMaster_ posted...
Stafford on the trade block.

Well at least the Jets have a backup plan if Rodgers doesn't want to go there!

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Crescent-Moon
03/10/23 2:15:46 PM
#371:


Leonhart4 posted...
I feel like there's a nonzero chance Stafford never plays again. Sounds like his elbow still isn't totally healed.
Yep.

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_PandaMaster_
03/10/23 4:34:04 PM
#372:


https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1634273721769684992

Tua's 5th Year

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Leonhart4
03/10/23 5:36:34 PM
#373:


Bears trading the #1 pick to the Panthers

https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1634320435838894081

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MysteriousStan
03/10/23 5:37:47 PM
#374:


9th and 61st this year
1st next year
2nd round pick in 2025
D.J. Moore

I love this haul.
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Crescent-Moon
03/10/23 5:51:03 PM
#375:


Bears

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_PandaMaster_
03/10/23 5:51:08 PM
#376:


MysteriousStan posted...
D.J. Moore



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Emeraldegg
03/10/23 6:05:21 PM
#377:


I honestly don't really like this

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mccheyne
03/10/23 7:10:57 PM
#378:


What a haul by Ryan Poles!

Honestly, love this for the Bears. Extra first round pick, damn good receiver who is only 25 years old and signed for 3 more years, couple extra seconds as well (one this year, one in 2025). And now they don't have to overpay for a mediocre receiver in free agency next week!

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Leonhart4
03/10/23 7:14:00 PM
#379:


Yeah, unless Bryce Young becomes a top tier QB (and he could), the Bears handily won this trade.

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mccheyne
03/11/23 3:23:03 AM
#380:


Leonhart4 posted...
Yeah, unless Bryce Young becomes a top tier QB (and he could), the Bears handily won this trade.
Totally fair, but the Bears using the #1 on a QB doesn't make sense with so many other holes, and a QB already that has shown some flashes and potential. Now they have a bunch of picks and a new #1 receiver.

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_PandaMaster_
03/11/23 12:32:21 PM
#381:


https://twitter.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1634594639234707457?s=46&t=Lc8ypXWqQKtyvDA84DPiWw

Deal is done. Only question now is.....Jets or Retirement.


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Seanchan
03/11/23 12:38:27 PM
#382:


I don't think there's any way Rodgers wouldn't want to go to NY. Big media market where he can push his post-retirement ambitions. But also the chance to come onto a team and be THE reason they win it all. I don't think his ego would let him turn that down.

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BlueCrystalTear
03/11/23 12:45:45 PM
#383:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Bears still suck
FTFY

_PandaMaster_ posted...
https://twitter.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1634594639234707457?s=46&t=Lc8ypXWqQKtyvDA84DPiWw

Deal is done. Only question now is.....Jets or Retirement.
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Crescent-Moon
03/11/23 1:34:11 PM
#384:


mccheyne posted...
What a haul by Ryan Poles!

Honestly, love this for the Bears. Extra first round pick, damn good receiver who is only 25 years old and signed for 3 more years, couple extra seconds as well (one this year, one in 2025). And now they don't have to overpay for a mediocre receiver in free agency next week!
The #1 thing they needed for Fields was a legit receiver and now he has one.

Unless they completely blow the draft this team could be dangerous next year, though I think their defense will still ultimately hold them back from "good".

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mccheyne
03/11/23 1:38:00 PM
#385:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
FTFY

The fear is real!
Crescent-Moon posted...
The #1 thing they needed for Fields was a legit receiver and now he has one.

Unless they completely blow the draft this team could be dangerous next year, though I think their defense will still ultimately hold them back from "good".
Legit though. FA should be all about building both sides of the trenches, then they have pick 9 and two late second rounders to grab starters (ideally)

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Reg
03/11/23 2:45:14 PM
#386:


Yeah I love this trade for the Bears (Even if I expect them to still blow it in the end because Bears)

I really do feel bad for whoever Carolina drafts though. Trading away all of the offensive skill players to get the high end QB who's going to throw to... Terrace Marshall?

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Leonhart4
03/11/23 4:02:23 PM
#387:


R.I.P. Bud Grant

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Ashethan
03/12/23 1:01:23 PM
#388:


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ZaziGuado
03/12/23 1:04:57 PM
#389:


As a fairweather Bears fan with limited NFL knowledge, I have decided the best course of action for the Bears now is to rebuild the O-line and D-line through free agency and draft Jaxon Smith-Njigba at #9 so that they can let Claypool or Mooney walk when their contracts are up.

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_PandaMaster_
03/12/23 1:18:52 PM
#390:


ZaziGuado posted...
draft Jaxon Smith-Njigba

Given how well the "college connection" has worked for Burrow and Tua, this is clearly the smartest decision. Will they make that decision though?

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_PandaMaster_
03/12/23 2:24:26 PM
#391:


https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1634981831841038337?s=46&t=Lc8ypXWqQKtyvDA84DPiWw

Ramsey

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Leonhart4
03/12/23 2:25:23 PM
#392:


Rams just completely blowing the team up huh

Could we see Aaron Donald get traded?

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Emeraldegg
03/12/23 3:53:41 PM
#393:


It was bound to happen, you can't keep a team of aging free agents together forever. They took their shot and they made it, now comes the not so fun part.

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Leonhart4
03/13/23 3:55:09 PM
#394:


https://mobile.twitter.com/TylerDBrooke/status/1635365071663824896

Jets players are celebrating on Twitter like it's a done deal.

Also the Dolphins signed Mike White. Bucs are interested in Baker Mayfield and Jacoby Brissett.

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KommunistKoala
03/13/23 4:21:40 PM
#395:


Jimmy G heading to the Raiders

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Ashethan
03/13/23 4:26:04 PM
#396:


Rodgers to Jets is a done deal. (At least according to Trey Wingo)

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Emeraldegg
03/13/23 4:27:50 PM
#397:


Lots of big deals today

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BlueCrystalTear
03/13/23 4:31:49 PM
#398:


Ashethan posted...
Rodgers to Jets is a done deal. (At least according to Trey Wingo)
Like I told you last night, he's probably being brought in as a mentor to Wilson (though White is in Miami, per above).

My question is what the Packers are getting for him.

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Leonhart4
03/13/23 4:31:57 PM
#399:


Jimmy G is gonna be living his best life in Vegas

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Leonhart4
03/13/23 4:32:40 PM
#400:


Also Rodgers isn't being brought in to mentor anyone (nor should he be, to be frank).

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