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Darkprince21
08/22/22 11:51:05 PM
#51:


Smashingpmkns posted...
End game spoilers but this is really worth watching to see how buggy this shit is lol

https://twitter.com/richard_normal/status/1561720614158848003
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ShineboxPhil
08/22/22 11:51:39 PM
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Game got barely any marketing. Not surprised it sucked.

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itachi15243
08/22/22 11:53:00 PM
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It better at least be fun because I'm playing it in like ten minutes.

Or an hour, depending on the patch.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 12:01:27 AM
#54:


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It better at least be fun because I'm playing it in like ten minutes.

Or an hour, depending on the patch.

Other than objective stuff like bugs and what not, I get the vibe a lot of people thought this wouldn't be a Saints Row game. Cause most the complaints are things that always were in the series. The writing always seemed like 13 year olds wrote it. The graphics were never the reason you played the games. I forgot the other complaints lol.

But anyway. They're expecting deepness or certain quality from a game that always only had one goal, being fun. And none of the complaints Ive seen say anything about it not being fun. They're mostly shallow takes on how it looks and the characters. So, if you're there for the right reasons that make sense, there's probably fun to be had. Enjoy your game. Im waiting to see about the bugs more and a price drop. I rarely buy games day one.

Alot of the takes here come off as people jumping on the scores as gospel because they had no want to play it to begin with and like the feeling of being right. It's why they're all a couple sentences that are just different combinations of the same post. They never had the intention to actually play the game or look into it enough to have a unique perspective.

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Sonic_Cannon
08/23/22 12:04:17 AM
#55:


Ah fuck, this is disapointing. I was hoping it would be good.

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Halo478
08/23/22 12:50:40 AM
#56:


Sonic_Cannon posted...
Ah fuck, this is disapointing. I was hoping it would be good.


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Monolith1676
08/23/22 12:58:50 AM
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Sonic_Cannon posted...
Ah fuck, this is disapointing. I was hoping it would be good.

This is 2022, games don't come out good, they come out broken.

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Punished_Blinx
08/23/22 12:59:20 AM
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If people literally miss 360 era open world games they probably still will like this (although probably better to wait for price drops and patches).

But it's pretty obvious at this point that these open world GTA style games are a real struggle to make these days. It has been a long time since one actually reviewed well that wasn't GTA. Maybe Sleeping Dogs?

It's stupid that culture wars has really taken over the discussion around this game. None of that would make a difference. Volition haven't progressed since Saints Row the Third over a decade ago. Their games still play and look very similar. Not to mention people are really over-rating how good the writing and characters were in the older games.

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CADE_FOSTER
08/23/22 1:00:28 AM
#59:


shit might be 5 dollars new by black friday
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BearlyWilling
08/23/22 1:12:08 AM
#60:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
shit might be 5 dollars new by black friday
lol no

but $30 at BF would make this a probably buy for me for sure. I could see it maaaaaaaybe hitting $20 if stores to want to offload inventory

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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 1:14:52 AM
#61:


BearlyWilling posted...
lol no

but $30 at BF would make this a probably buy for me for sure. I could see it maaaaaaaybe hitting $20 if stores to want to offload inventory

I could see $30 and Id probably pick it up too. I already got FF: Strangers of Paradise for $25 and that came out in March.

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Sonic_Cannon
08/23/22 1:15:33 AM
#62:


Punished_Blinx posted...
But it's pretty obvious at this point that these open world GTA style games are a real struggle to make these days. It has been a long time since one actually reviewed well that wasn't GTA. Maybe Sleeping Dogs?

Yeah I might still check it out once it appears somewhere cheap/free.
To answer this question, Watch Dogs 2 is the other well-regarded urban sandbox game that comes to mind.

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Punished_Blinx
08/23/22 1:21:07 AM
#63:


Sonic_Cannon posted...
Yeah I might still check it out once it appears somewhere cheap/free.
To answer this question, Watch Dogs 2 is the other well-regarded urban sandbox game that comes to mind.

Ah yeah Watch Dogs 2 was great. That would be the last GTA Clone where I actually thought that.

Unfortunately I don't think it sold well. Dunno if Legion did either.

I think it's a tough genre to tackle. Production values need to be high and content needs to be varied. People seem to forget how the old Saints Row games would pad out content by recycling 10 levels of different types of side missions you were forced to do to progress the story. People hate that kind of design now.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 1:30:52 AM
#64:


Punished_Blinx posted...
People seem to forget how the old Saints Row games would pad out content by recycling 10 levels of different types of side missions you were forced to do to progress the story.

For sure. It's like expecting the sequel to a B-Movie to be triple A and then being surprised it looks the same budget it did the first time. I haven't played it yet, so everything I say is gonna eventually be viewed in with hindsight later on, but Im also responding to others who also haven't played it.

I mean, they used the same map in 2 full games and stand alone DLC. They were always budget. What other western developers even try to get away with that in $60 games >_>.

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Heavy_D_Forever
08/23/22 1:38:31 AM
#65:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
For sure. It's like expecting the sequel to a B-Movie to be triple A and then being surprised it looks the same budget it did the first time. I haven't played it yet, so everything I say is gonna eventually be viewed in with hindsight later on, but Im also responding to others who also haven't played it.

Back then GTA San Andreas and SR 2 at least were on the same level in graphics and controls felt the same.

GTA V and RDR 2 changed things for open world games so much because everything is buttery smooth and looks incredible. Saints Row trying to compete with that looks cheap by comparison now. The graphics aren't that great and the physics are wonky as fuck. It might have some stupid fun moments but I wouldn't pay full price for it.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 1:50:05 AM
#66:


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Back then GTA San Andreas and SR 2 at least were on the same level in graphics and controls felt the same.

These games are from 2 different generations. Ps2/Xbox and Xbox 360 respectively. So, thanks for proving my point >_>. They've always been behind in these aspects

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Punished_Blinx
08/23/22 2:05:30 AM
#67:


Heavy_D_Forever posted...
Back then GTA San Andreas and SR 2 at least were on the same level in graphics and controls felt the same.

GTA V and RDR 2 changed things for open world games so much because everything is buttery smooth and looks incredible. Saints Row trying to compete with that looks cheap by comparison now. The graphics aren't that great and the physics are wonky as fuck. It might have some stupid fun moments but I wouldn't pay full price for it.

Saints Row did overall benefit from what GTA was doing.

Saints Row was the first GTA style game on the 360. A full two years early. Tech wise it was a big step up from GTA San Andreas. Ragdoll physics and full free aim on a controller felt pretty advanced for the time.

The rest of the series released between the super serious GTAIV and the more return to form GTAV. So they gradually amped up the wackiness to great success. But they hit the limit with that and GTAV raised the bar higher than Volition is ever capable of hitting.

Now a decade later they did have an opportunity to take advantage of the lack of a major new GTA game in a significantly long time. But they don't really know what to offer. Nobody else really does. Even though GTAV is old it's sense of production values and scale still can't be matched.

Saints Row as a franchise has probably offered all it can really. They've gone as extreme as they can go with aliens and superpowers and scaling things back is just going to feel like a dated and worse version of GTAV because tech hasn't really progressed in an easy way compared to how it was in 2006 on the 360 when PS2 games were the competition.

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PesticideDream
08/23/22 2:17:38 AM
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Saint's Row was super fun back in the day, and was a great contrast to the mounting seriousness of GTA. But, that was like, over a decade ago. This just looks like the same game from 2011 with the same gameplay but made with lame ass woke zoomers you'd see on some corporate commercial and neutered of any humor.
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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 2:22:41 AM
#69:


PesticideDream posted...
. This just looks like the same game from 2011 with the same gameplay but made with lame ass woke zoomers you'd see on some corporate commercial and neutered of any humor.

We heard this part several times and ni one is really arguing against it. Now do the part no one has stepped up to do yet and tell us what made the old writing good and not just cringey in a different era. It feels like people aren't being honest with themselves and realizing what they use to like in the game was never good lol. It seems like you guys liked the lame parts of the old games more than the parts that were actually fun >_>. Cause those are the only parts you guys talk about in comparison withlut ever actually having anything to say about why they were better.

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Smashingpmkns
08/23/22 2:34:16 AM
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The old writing was bad and cringey but this looks to be significantly worse. At least from the clips I've seen. And I'm not talking about "woke" stuff cuz I haven't actually seen any of that in clips. But just like characters cursing over and over for no reason and the cursing alone being played off as comedy. Just doing the bare minimum.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 2:41:55 AM
#71:


Smashingpmkns posted...
But just like characters cursing over and over for no reason and the cursing alone being played off as comedy. Just doing the bare minimum.

I dunno. I felt this about every game in the series. Plus, this is mostly clips we're watching. You're telling me you doubt there's clips you can grab from old games that aren't cursing as the joke? It's always been middle school humor mixed with high school humor.

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viewmaster_pi
08/23/22 2:44:02 AM
#72:


i haven't heard or seen any "woke" shit either, but yeah, there was a very stupid part in the beginning of the game where your player character throws a fit in their car over nothing and just gasses on...

as far as gameplay and customization goes, i'm actually pretty happy with what i've experienced. you even get skills and perks and weapon upgrades and stuff that you can assign and equip.

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viewmaster_pi
08/23/22 2:46:22 AM
#73:


also in case anyone thought people were joking, you really are doing all this to pay rent and student loans. you really are a bunch of college dropouts

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Smashingpmkns
08/23/22 2:49:17 AM
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https://twitter.com/Batman_Beware/status/1561325190784614400

Nah for as bad as the dialogue was in the previous games I don't think it was ever this bad.

I'm not saying the dialogue was ever good either, I'm just saying that this game manages to be significantly worse somehow.

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Punished_Blinx
08/23/22 2:53:35 AM
#75:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Nah for as bad as the dialogue was in the previous games I don't think it was ever this bad.

https://youtu.be/JvkTOFdI17k

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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 2:53:39 AM
#76:


Smashingpmkns posted...
https://twitter.com/Batman_Beware/status/1561325190784614400

Nah for as bad as the dialogue was in the previous games I don't think it was ever this bad.

I'm not saying the dialogue was ever good either, I'm just saying that this game manages to be significantly worse somehow.

I dunno. Im just not trippin over a 40 second clip. Those have never ended up being relevant whenever I played a game. Cause it literally boils down to "That waa mildly annoying for a minute" lol. He was on the same drive in the sane truck, so it came off as a run on joke. Im not one to judge a comedians whole act by one joke out of context. Again, with already low expectations. It's kind of funny how much Im reiterating how shitty the writing is in a series I like. I usually at the very least like the writing ironically. I just don't get anything out of Saints Row's writing.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 2:56:09 AM
#77:


Punished_Blinx posted...
https://youtu.be/JvkTOFdI17k

But you see, it's ok. Because it's hood stereotypes and not cringey zoomers that make me feel out of touch with what's popular in youth culture now. It's the same shit, just not directly aimed at their demographic.

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pegusus123456
08/23/22 2:57:32 AM
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Yeah, I don't see anything really wrong with that apparently damning critique of this game's dialogue.

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cjsdowg
08/23/22 3:05:32 AM
#79:


Speaking Saint's Row.

This is the best voice acting ever...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0MFSFKRjY

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008Zulu
08/23/22 3:06:22 AM
#80:


viewmaster_pi posted...
also in case anyone thought people were joking, you really are doing all this to pay rent and student loans. you really are a bunch of college dropouts
Art imitating life.

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masterpug53
08/23/22 10:46:29 AM
#82:


Punished_Blinx posted...
Not to mention people are really over-rating how good the writing and characters were in the older games.

I too find this weird. I've only played SR2, and while overall it was one of my surprise hits of that console gen, I would still categorize the writing as 'better than I expected,' not 'good.' And the characters were pretty shallow; I chuckled at a couple of Johnny Gat's lines but never once found him to be a compelling or well-written character.

SR2 had the benefit of coming out when many people (including myself) were dissatisfied with the direction GTA4 was taking the franchise, and SR2 ended up feeling 'more GTA than GTA.' It was pure ludicrous fun with the occasional surprisingly-decent plot moments to loosely string the whole thing together, and the ridiculous amount of character customization helped cement its memorability. I also played as a female Boss, an option that even then I'd wanted out of the GTA franchise; presumably they didn't make any significant dialogue alterations between male and female in this case, and it was surprisingly cool watching my female Boss stomp and swagger around and bark orders at the troops exactly like her male counterpart would have.

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itachi15243
08/23/22 10:52:31 AM
#83:


I've been playing it and it's actually pretty good and still kinda funny.

It's definitely glitchy here and there (on ps5). Also, the seriousness of the situations are all over the place in a way that doesn't make a ton of sense, exactly.

I wasn't hyped for this and hardly played saints row but I definitely like it. Definitely does need a patch though. I'd give a 7.5 out of ten. Without glitches, an easy 8.

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SaccharineSmile
08/23/22 10:54:39 AM
#84:


man like the developers are probably made up of 90% of 30+ year old males that made this game and thought juvenile humor is still pinnacle of art in 2022 video games yikes

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pegusus123456
08/23/22 7:09:32 PM
#85:


I'm suddenly remembering the pimp in SR3 that spoke entirely in autotune, but people think the dialogue in this game is cringy lol.

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DuneMan
08/23/22 7:15:42 PM
#86:


pegusus123456 posted...
I'm suddenly remembering the pimp in SR3 that spoke entirely in autotune, but people think the dialogue in this game is cringy lol.
Well, that's because he was using a voice box. He had a hole in his threat. He still smoked too...

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dave_is_slick
08/23/22 7:15:50 PM
#87:


DipDipDiver posted...
Considering where they took the story in 4 it definitely needed a reboot lol
They had a time machine at the end. They had infinite possibilities.

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Heavy_D_Forever
08/23/22 7:22:16 PM
#88:


pegusus123456 posted...
I'm suddenly remembering the pimp in SR3 that spoke entirely in autotune, but people think the dialogue in this game is cringy lol.
I would take an auto-tuned pimp over a group of people bitching about paying rent and student loans. They even had a line complaining about paying $40 for a blender or some stupid shit lol

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viewmaster_pi
08/23/22 7:31:57 PM
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at Friendly Fire i saw a sign that said no drugs, no wussies, no snowflakes, and no mimes, lol. and another on a restaurant that said shoplifters will be prostituted. there are lots of weird little details and things to take a closer look at. just a shame the bad pop-in means you'll miss them

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Aztex
08/23/22 7:33:56 PM
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What happened to you can't spell ignorant without ign? Now everyone agrees with them

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Punished_Blinx
08/23/22 8:09:10 PM
#91:


dave_is_slick posted...
They had a time machine at the end. They had infinite possibilities.

Such as?

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Crimsoness
08/23/22 8:12:03 PM
#92:


70 on meta, not great but it's not horrible

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dave_is_slick
08/23/22 8:15:44 PM
#93:


Punished_Blinx posted...
Such as?
Time machine. How are you even questioning?

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Lost_All_Senses
08/23/22 8:17:20 PM
#94:


Aztex posted...
What happened to you can't spell ignorant without ign? Now everyone agrees with them

This is why I don't like when people only need scores to tell you your perspective is wrong. They either dick ride scores too hard or they completely change their tune as soon as they like a game that doesn't get good scores. If you only like games that rank high with everyone, you're kind of just riding trends and have no real ability to form your own preferences. I think it's just they enjoy shitting on people's fun even though they have games that scored low and still hold value to them.

I get it if you actually played the game and you're telling your personal experience. That's completely fair. But what's going on here is people using other people's opinions just to try to make others feel as if they have bad taste for enjoying a game they seen 3 minutes worth of clips for.

I don't get why more people don't find the value in trying to understand what others see in video games they only have shallow insight on. It makes for far more interesting and bonding conversations.

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Punished_Blinx
08/23/22 8:47:34 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Time machine. How are you even questioning?

I'm questioning what a Saints Row time machine game would actually be.

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pegusus123456
08/23/22 8:52:17 PM
#96:


Alright, I'm watchinng sips play it and I do now concede that the dialogue is not good lol. It was fine in the tutorial mission, but I also find the conversations between the main four characters cringey. At least in their opening scene.

Gameplay looks fine though. It's exactly what I was expecting.

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gamer167
08/23/22 8:54:20 PM
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Did people actually think this might have been a good/great game?
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g0ldie
08/23/22 11:30:39 PM
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Aztex posted...
What happened to you can't spell ignorant without ign? Now everyone agrees with them
I just posted IGN's review since it's the most popular gaming review platform.

but overall, it's not important what I would have linked to.

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chukklez17dc
08/23/22 11:36:44 PM
#100:


I've been having fun with it, reminds me more of SR2 with the gameplay of SR3

The only bugs I've had so far is when I couldn't get out of loading screen and sometimes the audio is just quiet.

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