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GuessMyUserName
07/13/22 4:09:17 AM
#201:


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can't wait til Kamala steals Lockjaw on the way out lmao inhumans rest in piss

for real this is absolutely hilarious the mad lads actually bloody did it, I would've been annoyed if they kept up with the idea that this is some brand new kinda thing with the odd inhumans inspiration (last week's cocoons), but this instead is incredible holy shit

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IfGodCouldDie
07/13/22 4:23:12 AM
#202:


GuessMyUserName posted...
[marvel]

can't wait til Kamala steals Lockjaw on the way out lmao inhumans rest in piss

for real this is absolutely hilarious the mad lads actually bloody did it, I would've been annoyed if they kept up with the idea that this is some brand new kinda thing with the odd inhumans inspiration (last week's cocoons), but this instead is incredible holy shit
Honestly, I could see the MCU retconning the Inhumans as just a different team of mutants at this point.

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MoogleKupo141
07/13/22 4:39:43 AM
#203:


For most of their history, the Inhumans were basically just the people living on the moon.
My guess is theyll keep the moon Inhumans their own separate thing and any other Terrrigenesisd Earth person from the comics they may introduce will just be a mutant.

I wasnt reading comics at the point that stuff went down, so I dont even know if there are any Nuhumans other than Kamala that matter.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/13/22 5:19:54 AM
#204:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
maybe he just got caught up in the algorithm. I imagine if youre not intentionally avoiding it, it could be easy to end up down some dark path.

I did go out of my way to find those channels in 2018 because I thought they were just discussion channels. As more time passed by I realized what I had gotten into.

Midnight's Edge wasn't that bad before 2020, I swear! Also they don't tend to pop up in my suggested list most of the time.

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Janus5k
07/13/22 5:59:52 AM
#205:


That was an entertaining enough finale. Some bits were pretty rushed but it was a lot of lighthearted fun, which was admittedly a bit at odds with the Kamran stuff and that didn't entirely land but eh. I'm just going to blame the Clandestines again.

lmao at the mutant tease

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colliding
07/13/22 11:02:22 AM
#206:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
So read an article about how Disney gave Watiti a time limit for Thor which is why it ran under two hours and I feel like they must be putting the similar kind of restrictions on their TV shows. I wonder if it is because they are concerned about fatigue so they are just trying to cut down run times arbitrarily.

shorter run times = more screenings per day = more $$$$

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/13/22 11:14:26 AM
#207:


The Inhumans push Marvel made was always going to fail and I will never understand how they thought it could succeed.

X-Men worked because they were the every-man weirdos who were just fighting to be seen as equals and not grotesque weirdos, while also fighting back against those other bizarre weirdos who were trying to fight back against the world that wouldn't accept them. They were relatable and sympathetic because they were born this way and couldn't help it.

The Inhumans are literal ivory tower elitist weirdos who sucked down some Terrigan Mist and blah blah blah but rarely deigned the world with their presence and their biggest drama is royalty politics. They were never going to be as big as the X-Men. They were never going to be relatable like the X-Men.

It's frustrating that Marvel tried so damn hard at the time to make Inhumans the new X-Men because it was so obviously going to be a failure to anyone who actually had an understanding of these characters. I don't even particularly dislike the Inhumans that much when they're in their own little bubble. But man, imagine thinking "We can just replace the X-Men with these guys." Absolute dopey behavior only a corporate dummy could believe.

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Leonhart4
07/13/22 11:21:09 AM
#208:


Oh right, I completely forgot today was the finale of Ms. Marvel

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IfGodCouldDie
07/13/22 11:48:39 AM
#209:


colliding posted...
shorter run times = more screenings per day = more $$$$
Sure for films but that doesn't explain why every series has been unnecessarily short. I'm pretty sure every series would have benefitted from at least one more episode to flesh somethings out. Hell they even cut a finished episode from What If... just to announce they are going to move it to the second season.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/13/22 12:06:55 PM
#210:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Sure for films but that doesn't explain why every series has been unnecessarily short. I'm pretty sure every series would have benefitted from at least one more episode to flesh somethings out. Hell they even cut a finished episode from What If... just to announce they are going to move it to the second season.
Pretty sure it's a budget thing for the shows.

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HanOfTheNekos
07/13/22 12:17:34 PM
#211:


Yeah, that was a fun cute finale.

I think if they could have gotten from point A to C without a completely off-the-wall point B, things could have been better.

They just tried to tell too many stories. The main theme of the show is community and acceptance of the people within it. So why did we spend two episodes leaving the community? This could have been more high-school based, been more about Kamala vs. the DODC, and actually tell a story of Kamala being lifted up by her community/family to be strong rather than it just happening in the final episode.

And, honest, why go through the whole "you're a djinn" thing if you're going to pop at the end "you're also a mutant" like, chill, come on.

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GuessMyUserName
07/13/22 12:24:21 PM
#212:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
And, honest, why go through the whole "you're a djinn" thing if you're going to pop at the end "you're also a mutant" like, chill, come on.

yeah I don't understand the decisions around this, they even like really backed away from the "djinn" thing by going on about how locals would've just called any enhanced people (ie Thor) as djinn if they appeared in the area

but then also all the djinn stuff was all cleaned up quickly so it's like... from this point on the show could completely ignore the clandestines and nobody would care... which is a weird thing to bother attaching to Kamala

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HanOfTheNekos
07/13/22 12:28:16 PM
#213:


It feels like they tried hard to incorporate both Pakistani culture and immigrant/1st gen American culture, when they really could have stuck with one. As somebody not well-versed in either, I felt like I was given a good viewpoint into Kamala and Nakia's lives, and not so much the Pakistani side other than a short history lesson. Like, go more into Kamala's school life! Don't reduce it to just a coach mispronouncing her name.

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SHINE_GET_64
07/14/22 9:13:53 AM
#215:


better final episode, but not enough to save it in the rankings

1. Hawkeye
2. Loki
3. Moon Knight
4. Wandavision
5. What If...?
6. The Falcon and the Winter Soldier
7. Ms. Marvel

at least we got another tiny snippet of the X-Men theme again


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swordz9
07/14/22 9:26:55 AM
#216:


Since it sounds like Ms Marvel is over how would you all rank it compared to the other D+ MCU shows? I need to see What If still which I probably wont group with it because its animated, but otherwise I just need to see Ms Marvel since I was waiting for it to be over and for me to finish S4 of Stranger Things first too.
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HanOfTheNekos
07/14/22 9:33:20 AM
#217:


I don't know, yet. The last episode made me want to rank it above Moon Knight, but the first two episodes of Moon Knight were good, so... Hmmm

I will say that I believe Ms. Marvel doesn't cut into the top 3, easily.

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TotallyNotMI
07/14/22 9:36:51 AM
#218:


WandaVision
Hawkeye
Loki
Ms Marvel
Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Moon Knight

Is my first thought. I could see swapping Marvel/Falcon

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Maniac64
07/14/22 9:43:40 AM
#219:


Haven't finished Ms Marvel but my current rankings are:
Hawkeye
Moon Knight
Loki
Falcon & WS
Wandavision

Unpopular opinion I know but I just couldn't get into WandaVision.

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GuessMyUserName
07/14/22 11:45:27 AM
#221:


Hawkeye
Moon Knight
Loki
WandaVision
Ms. Marvel
Captain Falcon

I could swap Marvel & Falcon, because I did like Falcon but it doesn't really stick with me... and Marvel, as much as it fell into a mess, I really do like Kamala and her family and friends... it's just that the show chose to go away from all that for the back half and yikes.

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LeonhartFour
07/14/22 11:47:40 AM
#222:


not having watching the final episode yet (don't expect it to change unless it knocks my socks off, which I don't expect based off of the initial reactions)

Loki > WandaVision > Hawkeye > Moon Knight > What If > Falcon/Winter Soldier > Ms. Marvel

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RyoCaliente
07/14/22 12:36:21 PM
#223:


Hawkeye > Falcon > WandaVision > Moon Knight > Ms. Marvel > What If > Loki

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scarletspeed7
07/14/22 12:53:06 PM
#224:


Big spoilers for the E3 Marvel lineup.

https://twitter.com/0uter_H3aven/status/1547564425602666496/photo/1

They've cast Dracula, and it's... uh... well, the best casting Marvel has done in about a decade.

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HanOfTheNekos
07/14/22 12:55:52 PM
#225:


Inhumans confirmed for MCU movies

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LinkMarioSamus
07/14/22 1:38:52 PM
#226:


Something aside from what I usually bring up, but I don't get why people act like Endgame's plot could have been avoided by using the quantum tunnels to steal the Infinity Stones from Thanos. The Avengers probably didn't WANT to fight a powered Thanos again (granted, I guess they did anyway but still).

And on that note, it feels like most everything regarding the characters not being introduced for the first time in Phase 4 flow on pretty naturally from Endgame. So while there may not be something Phase 4 is building towards, there is a through line here. Or through most of Phase 4 anyway, but I don't get how introducing characters like Shang-Chi and the Eternals are any different from introducing the Guardians of the Galaxy and Doctor Strange beforehand in contexts seemingly divorced from the other Avengers. It's not like I was there back in the '70s but I feel like Phase 4 is equivalent to the Roger Moore era of Bond.

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IfGodCouldDie
07/14/22 1:39:01 PM
#227:


Interesting stuff.

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Leonhart4
07/14/22 1:40:51 PM
#228:


You don't always have to make forced comparisons that don't make sense

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CassandraCain
07/14/22 2:29:52 PM
#229:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
but I don't get how introducing characters like Shang-Chi and the Eternals are any different from introducing the Guardians of the Galaxy and Doctor Strange beforehand in contexts seemingly divorced from the other Avengers

It isn't different

Which youtube rando told you it was

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Murphiroth
07/14/22 2:55:19 PM
#230:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Big spoilers for the E3 Marvel lineup.

https://twitter.com/0uter_H3aven/status/1547564425602666496/photo/1

They've cast Dracula, and it's... uh... well, the best casting Marvel has done in about a decade.

Yeah that's a great casting.

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skullbone
07/14/22 2:58:07 PM
#231:


That's great casting but how could they possibly know post credits scenes for movies we haven't even seen a trailer for? That level of insider knowledge seems too high to be leaking this early.

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scarletspeed7
07/14/22 2:58:58 PM
#232:


It does suggest grain-of-salt levels of trust, but I imagine the casting is easier to buy due to the need for scheduling the E3 announcement.

Could still be bullshit!

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bryans7
07/14/22 3:15:57 PM
#233:


The Hulk movie makes me feel like it's bullshit.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/14/22 3:26:48 PM
#234:


CassandraCain posted...
It isn't different

Which youtube rando told you it was

It seems like a common criticism of Phase 4 even outside of anti-progressive circles (and being honest, much of the problem is I had no idea why they would break down when called out for making bigoted statements, only to realize way too late that they have a victim complex. Rather precious that they accuse "SJWs" of precisely that).

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JonThePenguin
07/14/22 3:44:42 PM
#235:


Iman Vellani doing a Reddit AMA right now

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/vz1hfa/whats_up_rmarvelstudios_im_iman_vellaniaka_the/

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mnkboy907
07/14/22 4:10:29 PM
#236:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Big spoilers for the E3 Marvel lineup.

https://twitter.com/0uter_H3aven/status/1547564425602666496/photo/1

They've cast Dracula, and it's... uh... well, the best casting Marvel has done in about a decade.

Feels like mixed messaging to make Kamala a mutant but then still go on ahead with MCU Inhumans. Then again, I suppose the original intention was for Kamala to be a mutant in the comics anyway, so you could say they're just course correcting.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/14/22 4:10:39 PM
#237:


bryans7 posted...
The Hulk movie makes me feel like it's bullshit.
Yeah they're not giving more money to Sony for a Hulk movie. Lol The MCU Hulk movie can't even be on Disney+. It's on HBO Max.

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Murphiroth
07/14/22 4:12:36 PM
#238:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Yeah they're not giving more money to Sony for a Hulk movie. Lol The MCU Hulk movie can't even be on Disney+. It's on HBO Max.

Universal, not Sony.

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HanOfTheNekos
07/14/22 4:14:50 PM
#239:


Murphiroth posted...
Universal, not Sony.

If it were Sony that had Hulk rights they'd be pushing an Absorbing Man movie where he's a misunderstood anti-hero.

That already happened in SHIELD

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Murphiroth
07/14/22 4:18:00 PM
#240:


HanOfTheNekos posted...


That already happened in SHIELD

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HanOfTheNekos
07/14/22 4:20:00 PM
#241:


I liked SHIELD

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Murphiroth
07/14/22 4:22:06 PM
#242:


You're preaching to the choir, I loved SHIELD. Still holding out hope that they bring back some of the cast in Secret Invasion.
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HanOfTheNekos
07/14/22 4:22:50 PM
#243:


Bring back the whole cast but they're all Skrulls

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Murphiroth
07/14/22 4:32:17 PM
#244:


Wouldn't be the first time for Coulson!
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CassandraCain
07/14/22 5:51:47 PM
#245:


That would be cool if they brought him back to reveal he was a Skrull the entire time.

I've never seen the show though so not sure if it would fit.

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redrocket
07/14/22 6:02:03 PM
#246:


mnkboy907 posted...
Feels like mixed messaging to make Kamala a mutant but then still go on ahead with MCU Inhumans. Then again, I suppose the original intention was for Kamala to be a mutant in the comics anyway, so you could say they're just course correcting.

I mean, even in the comics, shes not really an Inhuman. She got her powers from the Terragen mist, but that doesnt make her one of them!

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GuessMyUserName
07/14/22 6:39:59 PM
#247:


she is one with Lockjaw tho

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MartinFF7
07/14/22 8:14:45 PM
#248:




scarletspeed7 posted...
Big spoilers for the E3 Marvel lineup.

https://twitter.com/0uter_H3aven/status/1547564425602666496/photo/1

They've cast Dracula, and it's... uh... well, the best casting Marvel has done in about a decade.

Initial thoughts:
-I like the Eiza Gonzalez recasting, that's the dumbest thing for that guy to complain about. If I'm complaining about anything it's the fact they're even bringing her back yet again (assuming it's same universe as previous...)

-How does World War Hulk even work in the current context? Unless it's the classic context of taking the event name but making it play out completely different from the actual storyline (or doing it in non-616 universe)... but I did love that storyline so still looking forward

-I had to google Dracula actor's name and wow, hell yeah that's a good one

-I was wondering why we hadn't gotten a trailer for Wakanda Forever yet (out in 4 months?) so I guess that covers that...

-Wonder Man? really?
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Johnbobb
07/14/22 8:28:21 PM
#249:


finished Ms Marvel

was gonna try and break down what worked and what didn't but honestly it doesn't feel like it would be worth the time

a fun episode packed full of every single teen superhero romcom cliche you can squeeze into a single episode

  1. WandaVision
  2. Hawkeye
  3. Moon Knight
  4. What If?
  5. Loki
  6. Falcon and the Winter Soldier
  7. Ms. Marvel


First two are very far above the rest imo

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GuessMyUserName
07/14/22 8:31:39 PM
#250:


What If is hard to rank with the others since it's so episoding and well, not live-action... but if pressed I'd probably stuff it in above Loki in my earlier post for the #3 spot

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