Poll of the Day > Y'know, a leftist once killed a white supremacist in self-defense at a rally.

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THEGODDAMNBATMA
12/02/21 10:41:26 PM
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Proud Boys rally. Leftist dude killed a Proud Boy in self defense similar to Rittenhouse. He was then immediately labeled the "leader of ANTIFA" by MSM and Trump and let out on bail. He was set to have a trial, but then the FBI raided his house and murdered him. Trump then openly gloated about ordering the hit.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
12/02/21 11:07:48 PM
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I'll ask the same question I had of Rittenhouse... What was he doing there?
In the Rittenhouse case the answer to that was that he was providing medical aide to protesters.
Somehow it seems unlikely a leftist was aiding Proud Boys.

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MeadCore
12/02/21 11:14:51 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
I'll ask the same question I had of Rittenhouse... What was he doing there?
In the Rittenhouse case the answer to that was that he was providing medical aide to protesters.
Somehow it seems unlikely a leftist was aiding Proud Boys.

funny that he needed an AR15 for that. Oh well Im sure his social media communication with Proud Boys members and him openly saint he wanted to shoot protesters with that exact gun have nothing at all with his reason for being there

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SKARDAVNELNATE
12/02/21 11:22:59 PM
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MeadCore posted...
funny that he needed an AR15 for that
The army gives a gun to medics. As for why he had an AR15 specifically I think it was mentioned in the trial that the laws allow him to own a riffle but not a handgun due to his age at the time.

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THEGODDAMNBATMA
12/02/21 11:25:45 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
The army gives a gun to medics. As for why he had an AR15 specifically I think it was mentioned in the trial that the laws allow him to own a riffle but not a handgun due to his age at the time.
The Army medics with guns are also in nations at war treating people who have been wounded in combat lmao.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
12/02/21 11:28:48 PM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
The Army medics with guns are also in nations at war treating people who have been wounded in combat lmao.
Sounds like an apt description of the protests.

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Bulbasaur
12/02/21 11:47:07 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Sounds like an apt description of the protests.
why are you pro-violence


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MeadCore
12/02/21 11:49:37 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
The army gives a gun to medics. As for why he had an AR15 specifically I think it was mentioned in the trial that the laws allow him to own a riffle but not a handgun due to his age at the time.

he isnt in the fucking army

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Zareth
12/02/21 11:55:17 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Sounds like an apt description of the protests.
Are you one of those people who still think like half of America's cities are on fire because of BLM

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MeadCore
12/03/21 12:07:58 AM
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Zareth posted...
Are you one of those people who still think like half of America's cities are on fire because of BLM

they seriously act like every protester is some entitled terrorist and think that every protest turns into a riot

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SKARDAVNELNATE
12/03/21 12:25:24 AM
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Bulbasaur posted...
why are you pro-violence
I'm not. That was meant as a condemnation.

MeadCore posted...
he isnt in the fucking army
But he was in a figurative warzone.

MeadCore posted...
they seriously act like every protester is some entitled terrorist and think that every protest turns into a riot
There were quite a few news reports showing buildings on fire and there was just recently a trial because people died. We wouldn't be discussing it right now if the protests hadn't been violent.

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MeadCore
12/03/21 12:56:21 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
But he was in a figurative warzone.

then maybe he should have only brought a figurative rifle. Fewer lives would have been lost if someone had cared about Kyle enough that night to talk some sense into him. Instead he got gaslit by a bunch of nutjobs on the internet so now people are dead and his life is a fucking mess.

And as much as some people hate it, part of the conversation has to be that this young white man was treated with tremendous leniency and patience when the same treatment and patience is nowhere to be seen against many minority groups and people in low income areas.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
12/03/21 1:18:48 AM
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MeadCore posted...
And as much as some people hate it, part of the conversation has to be that this young white man was treated with tremendous leniency and patience when the same treatment and patience is nowhere to be seen against many minority groups and people in low income areas.
So what are the circumstances surrounding the other leftist at the Proud Boys rally? Shouldn't we look into that before we say it was due to genetics?

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MeadCore
12/03/21 1:21:14 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
So what are the circumstances surrounding the other leftist at the Proud Boys rally? Shouldn't we look into that before we say it was due to genetics?

who said anything about genetics? When a crime occurs it should be investigated regardless of the identity of the suspect or what views they hold

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Zeus
12/03/21 1:27:05 AM
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I like that this topic provides no names or links, just a claim that something happened.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
12/03/21 1:30:50 AM
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MeadCore posted...
who said anything about genetics?

MeadCore posted...
that this young white man was treated with tremendous leniency and patience when the same treatment and patience is nowhere to be seen against many minority groups

You did.

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MeadCore
12/03/21 1:30:54 AM
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Zeus posted...
I like that this topic provides no names or links, just a claim that something happened.

youve got an entire internet you can use if youd like darling, we trust you with it

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BlackScythe0
12/03/21 1:31:02 AM
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Zeus posted...
I like that this topic provides no names or links, just a claim that something happened.

I vaguely feel like I remember a trumpster being killed in seattle during the protests there.
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MeadCore
12/03/21 1:33:13 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
You did.

yes my friend, because I think race and personal background shouldnt have a bearing on how someone is treated by authority figures, yet that is quite obviously in my experience not the case

I dont know much about you at all but I think if you ever talk to the police you should be treated respectfully, and it shouldnt matter what you look like or how you speak, or who you love.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
12/03/21 1:42:07 AM
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MeadCore posted...
yes my friend, because I think race and personal background shouldnt have a bearing on how someone is treated by authority figures, yet that is quite obviously in my experience not the case

I dont know much about you at all but I think if you ever talk to the police you should be treated respectfully, and it shouldnt matter what you look like or how you speak, or who you love.
I agree with everything stated here. So before we reduce both figures down to their race as the only determent in how they were treated I want to know if there were any other factors which set them apart.

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Kyuubi4269
12/03/21 1:45:05 AM
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I like how people are claiming having a gun for use in a similar vein to the army is inappropriate when the second ammendment ONLY defends using firearms in a military fashion.

You guys are wildly out of touch with your own laws, it's pathetic.
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BlackScythe0
12/03/21 1:45:57 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
I like how people are claiming having a gun for use in a similar vein to the army is inappropriate when the second ammendment ONLY defends using firearms in a military fashion.

You guys are wildly out of touch with your own laws, it's pathetic.

Yea yea yea just conveniently ignore the "well regulated" part.
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MeadCore
12/03/21 1:53:47 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
I like how people are claiming having a gun for use in a similar vein to the army is inappropriate when the second ammendment ONLY defends using firearms in a military fashion.

You guys are wildly out of touch with your own laws, it's pathetic.

the national guard

the is the well regulated militia that is being described in the second amendment. it has nothing to do with personal firearms owned by civilians. Theres no way to stop those from causing tragedies and they do far more harm than good.

we arent fucking putting up with it anymore

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Zareth
12/03/21 2:03:43 AM
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You know how the framers of the Constitution absolutely wanted it to never be changed, ever, and didn't create a system for doing so if it was no longer compatible with the times? Shit sucks doesn't it.

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FatalAccident
12/03/21 2:09:01 AM
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Lol only in America

a child isnt allowed to carry a handgun but theyre allowed to have a fucking rifle instead lol

and this is an actual law and totally acceptable? Wowwww lmao

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SKARDAVNELNATE
12/03/21 5:26:39 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
I like how people are claiming having a gun for use in a similar vein to the army is inappropriate when the second ammendment ONLY defends using firearms in a military fashion.
Well, no. It says a well regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free state. But it doesn't make that a requirement. The part saying the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed would contradict it if it did.

Not a member of a militia? Infringe their right.
Member of a militia but it's poorly organized? Infringe their right.
Member of a militia, and it's well organized, but don't live in a free state? Claim they're opposing the state and infringe their right.

FatalAccident posted...
a child isnt allowed to carry a handgun but theyre allowed to have a fucking rifle instead lol
If I had to guess I'd say the lawmakers were more concerned with concealment than anything else.

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ReturnOfFa
12/03/21 5:52:53 PM
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Here's a compilation of right-wing terrorist events since Obama's election with a little bit of precursing info:

https://youtu.be/_OFudWnMJSU

https://youtu.be/Fkn4ugYO6uc

https://youtu.be/AQvqfS2kvFw

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ReturnOfFa
12/03/21 5:54:32 PM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
Proud Boys rally. Leftist dude killed a Proud Boy in self defense similar to Rittenhouse. He was then immediately labeled the "leader of ANTIFA" by MSM and Trump and let out on bail. He was set to have a trial, but then the FBI raided his house and murdered him. Trump then openly gloated about ordering the hit.
Can you link to some info on this? Pretty nuts overall.

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Gaawa_chan
12/03/21 6:28:38 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
Can you link to some info on this? Pretty nuts overall.
shorturl.at/djuyI
shorturl.at/uNOPY
shorturl.at/mnBJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRr7VIW8_h8

Stupid url limits. freaking gamefaqs. :-/

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Kimbos_Egg
12/03/21 6:34:10 PM
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Are you talking about this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_and_Michael_Reinoehl

Because thats not at all what happened.

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Kimbos_Egg
12/03/21 6:37:47 PM
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not to mention even his family admitted he was nuts. Like he was all but screaming on his social media about wanting to kill people.. Seems a weird hill to die on for this guy..

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Gaawa_chan
12/03/21 6:41:12 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
not to mention even his family admitted he was nuts. Like he was all but screaming on his social media about wanting to kill people.. Seems a weird hill to die on for this guy..
I happen to think that suspects who are not an active threat, insane or not, should not be extrajudicially murdered, but that's just me. Might have something to do with me being sick of events like this popping up on the regular:
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/09/910975499/autistic-13-year-old-boy-shot-by-salt-lake-city-police

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Kimbos_Egg
12/03/21 6:41:58 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
I happen to think that suspects, insane or not, who are not an active threat should not be extrajudicially murdered, but that's just me.

He fucking shot at them. Are you really this dense?

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Kimbos_Egg
12/03/21 6:44:56 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
I happen to think that suspects who are not an active threat, insane or not, should not be extrajudicially murdered, but that's just me. Might have something to do with me being sick of events like this popping up on the regular:
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/09/910975499/autistic-13-year-old-boy-shot-by-salt-lake-city-police

That literally has nothing at all with whats being discussed here. But hey continue the strawman argument though. Atleast you can pretend you have a point.

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Gaawa_chan
12/03/21 6:45:38 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
He fucking shot at them. Are you really this dense?
... No, he did not shoot at the cops who killed him. What are you talking about? I keep checking and no, none of the accounts say that.

Kimbos_Egg posted...
That literally has nothing at all with whats being discussed here. But hey continue the strawman argument though. Atleast you can pretend you have a point.
If you don't understand how justifying the extrajudicial shooting of insane people results in cops being triggerhappy around people with disabilities in general, you lack the reasoning skills to be worth engaging with further... which is a bit ironic, come to think of it.

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kind9
12/04/21 6:05:37 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
In the Rittenhouse case the answer to that was that he was providing medical aide to protesters.
He was there as a counter-protester, supposedly protecting a business nobody asked him to protect. Of course you know this already, but for some reason you feel the need to play dumb.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
12/04/21 12:16:19 PM
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kind9 posted...
He was there as a counter-protester
Rittenhouse testified he was there to protect property and act as a medic. He also gave accounts of people he provided aide to. I don't see any mention of him being charged with perjury for this testimony.

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adjl
12/04/21 12:29:08 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Rittenhouse testified he was there to protect property and act as a medic. He also gave accounts of people he provided aide to. I don't see any mention of him being charged with perjury for this testimony.

Perjury requires you to prove that the person is lying under oath. If nobody can prove otherwise, he can say whatever he wants: a lack of perjury charges does not in any way indicate that an absolute truth has been told.

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Revelation34
12/04/21 12:35:21 PM
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MeadCore posted...
Instead he got gaslit by a bunch of nutjobs


How would a nutjob make somebody else think they're insane?

MeadCore posted...


youve got an entire internet you can use if youd like darling, we trust you with it


That's not how the burden of proof works.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
I like how people are claiming having a gun for use in a similar vein to the army is inappropriate when the second ammendment ONLY defends using firearms in a military fashion.

You guys are wildly out of touch with your own laws, it's pathetic.


Lol.

MeadCore posted...
it has nothing to do with personal firearms owned by civilians.


Heh.

adjl posted...


Perjury requires you to prove that the person is lying under oath. If nobody can prove otherwise, he can say whatever he wants: a lack of perjury charges does not in any way indicate that an absolute truth has been told.


Ok, Canadian.
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Nichtcrawler X
12/04/21 12:41:54 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
The army gives a gun to medics. As for why he had an AR15 specifically I think it was mentioned in the trial that the laws allow him to own a riffle but not a handgun due to his age at the time.

Pretty sure targeting medics is a Geneva violation, thus medics should not have guns.

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Revelation34
12/04/21 1:12:11 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...


Pretty sure targeting medics is a Geneva violation, thus medics should not have guns.


Tell that to the military.
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Dark_Spiret
12/04/21 1:23:38 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Pretty sure targeting medics is a Geneva violation, thus medics should not have guns.
thats not how the real world works. even paramedics today at the very least have to notify police, who have guns, before they can go into a potential hostile situation.
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Nichtcrawler X
12/04/21 2:32:57 PM
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The point is that certain non-combatants can have certain privileges. Carrying a gun simply means you are no longer considered a non-combatant.

The moment you start combining things of those two, you get in serious trouble. (As in, say wearing a visible symbol that legally identifies you as a medic, but also carrying a gun)

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Cacciato
12/04/21 2:47:00 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
But he was in a figurative warzone.
youve clearly never been in a warzone if you think that was close to one, even figuratively.
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Revelation34
12/04/21 2:48:42 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
The point is that certain non-combatants can have certain privileges. Carrying a gun simply means you are no longer considered a non-combatant.

The moment you start combining things of those two, you get in serious trouble. (As in, say wearing a visible symbol that legally identifies you as a medic, but also carrying a gun)


Revelation34 posted...


Tell that to the military.

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Cacciato
12/04/21 2:52:37 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Pretty sure targeting medics is a Geneva violation, thus medics should not have guns.
Medics are allowed to have weapons to protect the soldiers theyre treating. Using blatantly offensive weapons such as machine guns or anti-tank weapons, or using defensive firearms offensively, would result in their Geneva Convention protections being invalidated.

Not that it matters as an American because we dont follow the Geneva Convention in several circumstances, and neither does our enemy.
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MeadCore
12/04/21 7:13:21 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Tell that to the military.

why dont YOU tell that to the military

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Revelation34
12/05/21 4:51:57 AM
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MeadCore posted...


why dont YOU tell that to the military


I'm not the one who's making up dumb shit about military medics.
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Cacciato
12/05/21 4:54:01 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
I'm not the one who's making up dumb shit about military medics.
Thats because you dont know enough about the military to even make up dumb shit that sounds believable.

and its surprising that you brought up burden of proof in your previous post, given what I had to link you to regarding those previous civil suit discussions. I honestly dont know why you get into arguments on this board because they always result in you displaying that you constantly dont know what the fuck youre talking about.
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ReturnOfFa
12/05/21 6:32:48 PM
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oh well rittenburg wasn't even old enough to be in the military when he shot people

so idk why we talkin about that

homie didn't even have any first-aid training. typically I desire that from a medic lmfao

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