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KodyKeir
08/13/21 12:16:54 PM
#52:


adjl posted...
The Switch doesn't offer that option, though

It has usb ports, plug them in before turning it on. It may have in game options built in.

I have honestly never thought to try, it might even give console accesses on some games known for it.

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helIy
08/13/21 12:22:01 PM
#53:


adjl posted...
I generally do, for ARPG's. The Switch doesn't offer that option, though (... to my knowledge), so for D3, it's a moot point.
sucks to suck then i guess

i've never had an issue

there's not really an issue even if it was problematic, the game is decidedly not very difficult, even at torment 15

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adjl
08/13/21 12:37:09 PM
#54:


KodyKeir posted...
It has usb ports, plug them in before turning it on. It may have in game options built in.

I have honestly never thought to try, it might even give console accesses on some games known for it.

Similarly, I've never thought to try, though it might work. Regardless, though, I'm not going to use M+KB on the Switch because my dock setup isn't conducive to that. Whatever options might exist, I make a point of buying games I think will work better with M+KB on PC (I figured I'd give D3 a chance because many people found it worked well with a controller and I was curious to see how it did, and while it did the job pretty nicely, I still definitely prefer M+KB), so there's not much incentive to rearrange my living room to facilitate hooking it up to my Switch.

helIy posted...
sucks to suck then i guess

i've never had an issue

there's not really an issue even if it was problematic, the game is decidedly not very difficult, even at torment 15

I mean, it obviously wasn't catastrophically dysfunctional. Just objectively worse. Considering other subjective factors like personally finding controllers more comfortable, it's perfectly conceivable that some people would prefer using a controller. It's just clearly incorrect to say that controllers are objectively the best option.

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Mead
08/13/21 12:42:38 PM
#55:


If my time knowing is correct, and it often isnt, we can play in around 18 minutes, if it doesnt break. It will probably break.

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Black_Crusher
08/13/21 3:19:21 PM
#56:


"Shtay awhile, and diddle!"

But in all seriousness, how is it??

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Mead
08/13/21 3:28:31 PM
#57:


Black_Crusher posted...
"Shtay awhile, and diddle!"

But in all seriousness, how is it??

its alright

its Diablo 2. The combat feels a little more weighted and more satisfying, which is interesting because I have always preferred the way things felt in D2 compared to D3 because 3 feels so much more floaty and arcade-like.

On console the menus and inventory management is slightly cumbersome and not as intuitive as Id like. Thats my only real complaint so far.

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Black_Crusher
08/13/21 4:13:11 PM
#58:


Mead posted...
On console the menus and inventory management is slightly cumbersome and not as intuitive as Id like. Thats my only real complaint so far.
Does it seem like something you could get used to though?

I wonder if they'll take any feedback like this from you guys and tweak things. Or it could be too late as far as that goes by now.

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Mead
08/13/21 4:20:54 PM
#59:


Black_Crusher posted...
Does it seem like something you could get used to though?

I wonder if they'll take any feedback like this from you guys and tweak things. Or it could be too late as far as that goes by now.

yeah its far from unplayable so Im sure I can get accustomed to it

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wolfy42
08/13/21 4:21:54 PM
#60:


I just can't see them recreating the old experience to be honest.

The base game might be the same, but back in the day they kept adding patches, changing things, adding synergies etc. In addition you had a HUGE player base, which created an amazing trading system. I wasn't joking about always getting an enigma within a week or two of a new ladder season/patch.

That was mainly possible because people ran bots, so tons of stuff was available to trade. I didn't run one, but I was great at trading so I took advantage of it, buying low and selling high. I would get my initial currency to trade for just with +1 skill large charms (just ran for them manually for a few days to get started).

The game itself is still fun without all that, but, I already have it and pluggy so I can play offline with players 8/runewords etc. That means it's just a graphical update without the advantages of pluggy, or at least that is what it sounds like to me.

Honestly the graphics are still fine for me, I don't get why people care so much about a slightly better look. If the gameplay is better, that could be worth it (except I really liked the old gameplay).

They really need to do a full open beta to let everyone try it cause I'm not jumping on board unless there is something there to drag me back more then is in my current d2 (already loaded on my computer...but not played in a few years).

I have too many ARPG to play that have evolved past D2 at this point, some of which I'm totally holding off on until they finally exit freaking early access (Looking at you Last Epoch). At this point even if I did somehow run out of other stuff to play (which isn't going to happen anytime soon), Path of Exile pretty much will remain a better option then D2 Remastered probably.

Without adding new classes, new skill trees etc, I already played every possible build in D2 to freaking death in the past, so it would just be revisting things I have done before, without the equipment that made the builds great.

Hope they do add new things, but honestly, at this point, I don't know if that would even be enough for me to pay em $20+ to play it.

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Mead
08/13/21 4:48:12 PM
#61:


For me D2 has always seemed almost endlessly fun

whenever I get bored with one character I make something silly like a sorceress that only uses less popular/effective but fun spells like nova and blaze or a throwing axe barb

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Black_Crusher
08/13/21 4:56:23 PM
#62:


Mead, what version is D2R running? I think the latest for D2 was 1.14 IIRC.

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Lokarin
08/13/21 5:38:36 PM
#63:


My bro was always like "The enemies with 2 or even 3 immunities just make the game unplayable"

and I'm like... get hammerdin, wait, I mean get Spell Penetration/Resist Reduction

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wolfy42
08/13/21 6:01:47 PM
#64:


Mead posted...
For me D2 has always seemed almost endlessly fun

whenever I get bored with one character I make something silly like a sorceress that only uses less popular/effective but fun spells like nova and blaze or a throwing axe barb

Yeah, I actually played through the whole game, and I loved doing specialty builds, even before synergies made some of them much better.

I literally played with EVERY possible kill skill as my primary (probably multiple times). D2 was my goto summer game along with the might and magic games for a decade (along with playing it a freakton for the first few years it came out).

But, some of the ability to make those skills work through nightmare at least, was based on equipment, without the equipment boosting the abilities etc, it wouldn't be nearly as fun.

Still i might give old D2 a chance again and if I can get into it, and they add new stuff to the remaster, give it a try.

Guess it really depends on how well it takes off and how many people start playing it again, if that doesn't happen then it's not even worth it to try for me.


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Lokarin
08/13/21 6:03:52 PM
#65:


> Yeah, I actually played through the whole game, and I loved doing specialty builds, even before synergies made some of them much better.

I got really into specialty builds when synergies were added - I had a rather rockin' melee Enchantress thanks to the massive AR you get from flamey swordey

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Zareth
08/13/21 6:04:31 PM
#66:


Are they going to add a way to hotkey skills on use, or is it still just to switch to a skill?

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Black_Crusher
08/13/21 6:10:53 PM
#67:


They really need to boost Holy Fire. I specifically made a Fire paladin before (using Hexfire, which is a great sword) and Holy Fire is just <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Lightning or Freeze.

Unless you have the Dragon runeword or whatever it was that gives you a level 40 aura. Kind of a bit out of my price range for sure.

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wolfy42
08/13/21 6:49:23 PM
#68:


Black_Crusher posted...
They really need to boost Holy Fire. I specifically made a Fire paladin before (using Hexfire, which is a great sword) and Holy Fire is just <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Lightning or Freeze.

Unless you have the Dragon runeword or whatever it was that gives you a level 40 aura. Kind of a bit out of my price range for sure.


Been a looooong time, but I believe holy fire was actually used to run for gems.....because you could get a larger and larger radius with it (so eventually it killed everything before you saw it).

There was a semi-cool holy fire build though, but I do think it was only for normal or maybe early nightmare. Been too long.

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Mead
08/13/21 7:06:15 PM
#69:


Black_Crusher posted...
Mead, what version is D2R running? I think the latest for D2 was 1.14 IIRC.

I assumed it was the latest version of the game but Im not actually sure

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DragonClaw01
08/13/21 7:17:32 PM
#70:


Lokarin posted...
My bro was always like "The enemies with 2 or even 3 immunities just make the game unplayable"

and I'm like... get hammerdin, wait, I mean get Spell Penetration/Resist Reduction
You and everyone else. Pretty much everyone rolls a hammerdin or blizz sorc since they are so effective, even with shitty gear.

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Mead
08/13/21 7:24:17 PM
#71:


All the classes I think have some viable method to switch over to without too much skill investment to deal with immunes, and if not then some runewords really beef your merc up enough to take them on

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Joe_Biden
08/13/21 7:25:31 PM
#72:


its actually a version higher than of d2, because itsa new version. they did patch a bunch of issues that plagued d2 and was never fixed, its like d2 2.0

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Mead
08/13/21 7:34:57 PM
#73:


Joe_Biden posted...
they did patch a bunch of issues that plagued d2 and was never fixed

oh thats cool

I wish that companies like Blizzard and Bethesda would just do that. Just have a couple people that can address actual bugs and stuff over time

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Mead
08/14/21 1:53:04 AM
#74:


Oh jeez the spiders look so much grosser now

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Ferarri619
08/14/21 1:56:03 AM
#75:


Mead posted...
Oh jeez the spiders look so much grosser now

Didn't they make some enemies less sexy or something?
Not that I really care in this case. If it were a Japanese game though I'd be pissed

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Mead
08/14/21 2:25:25 AM
#76:


Ferarri619 posted...
Didn't they make some enemies less sexy or something?
Not that I really care in this case. If it were a Japanese game though I'd be pissed

they covered up some undead tits yeah

more oppression against gamers

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Ferarri619
08/14/21 2:26:56 AM
#77:


I doubt the spiders look grosser than any Resident Evil game.
Those will always be the most disgusting creatures of any video game ever.

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Ferarri619
08/14/21 3:58:32 AM
#78:


I'm a barbarian and I'm pretty much putting all my skill points into axe.
My axe kills things pretty quickly so far lol.
I put 2 skill points into bash but seems like kinda useless skill so far tbh. I dunno what else to put my skill points into.
I get to teleport to Tristram on this current quest huh...THAT will be a blast from the past.

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KodyKeir
08/14/21 4:33:38 AM
#79:


So, early verdicts; is it good or should I just get out my battle chest and play with what I have on hand?

(Somehow a DVD of Disc 2 of the first season of Blade (live action) made it into my copy and I am trying to figure out why its in the box, I didn't even remember there was a blade live action series until I saw the disc, so Idk how it even got in the house)

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Mead
08/14/21 4:55:12 AM
#80:


I recommend it if you like the game already. If nothing else its a fresh coat of paint and theres some quality of life upgrades like automatic gold pickup and a few other things. Some stuff like that you could do with mods on PC but its nice to see options in the actual game.

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Ferarri619
08/14/21 5:05:26 AM
#81:


I'm playing Diablo 2 classic btw. My new gaming pc isn't arriving until probably next month so, basically it'll be like this:
Diablo 1 (Finished about a week ago), Diablo 2 classic, Diablo 3 + expansions, Diablo 2 remastered, in that order.

So far I feel like Diablo 1 was a bit more addicting tbh. I think it's the tower crawling aspect and the fact that enemies don't respawn, but I also didn't play multiplayer in Diablo 2 so my experience is probably way different.
I hope Diablo 3 is still active online when I get to it.

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Ferarri619
08/14/21 5:49:40 AM
#82:


You lose all gold and equipped items when you die and no way to just load the game? WTF

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Revelation34
08/14/21 6:13:26 AM
#83:


Mead posted...


they covered up some undead tits yeah

more oppression against gamers


Self censorship is weird.

Ferarri619 posted...
You lose all gold and equipped items when you die and no way to just load the game? WTF


Wasn't it always like that?
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KodyKeir
08/14/21 6:22:49 AM
#84:


Revelation34 posted...
You lose all gold and equipped items when you die

You have to go back to where you died and pick up your stuff before you log out of the session, as long as it is on the same map you can run for your corpse, you might want to pick some stuff up from your chest to aid you search of your corpse.

I remember punching my way back to my loot with a necromancer.

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Ferarri619
08/14/21 6:23:45 AM
#85:


Revelation34 posted...
Wasn't it always like that?

Yes, remember I'm playing this game for the first time ever and I only just died for the first time.
Thankfully I ran back as fast as I could and I'm good now.

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BlazeAndBlade
08/14/21 7:29:22 AM
#86:


now we just need a Diablo 1

heck the first game was even on the ps1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54f5eOU2i2k

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Black_Crusher
08/14/21 7:53:18 AM
#87:


Ferarri619 posted...
Didn't they make some enemies less sexy or something?
Not Andariel, from what I've heard. She's still letting 'em fly lol.

BlazeAndBlade posted...
heck the first game was even on the ps1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54f5eOU2i2k

This was actually my first Diablo game, I LOVED this thing. I like how anyone can learn spells if they have enough MAG stat. I used to keep stuff like Rings of the Zodiac on the ground near the well for my warrior, just to equip and learn from books. Then I'd take it off and put on my real fighting gear.

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Mead
08/14/21 11:45:06 AM
#88:


So they covered up some enemy titties but they ADDED titties to some corpses

this is a strange decision

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KodyKeir
08/14/21 8:14:56 PM
#89:


Mead posted...
So they covered up some enemy titties but they ADDED titties to some corpses

Mead posted...
this is a strange decision


Given light on the recent climate, perhaps not.

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Lokarin
08/14/21 8:16:12 PM
#90:


Mead posted...
So they covered up some enemy titties but they ADDED titties to some corpses

this is a strange decision

let me guess - they removed skeletons so they can sell to China

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Mead
08/14/21 9:19:26 PM
#91:


Lokarin posted...
let me guess - they removed skeletons so they can sell to China

no theres a regular amount of skeletons

also it turns out the beta ends after act 2

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Lokarin
08/14/21 9:21:14 PM
#92:


Mead posted...
also it turns out the beta ends after act 2

I remember that Duriel was the hardest boss in the entire game ... I don't know why though, like what his mechanics were

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Mead
08/14/21 9:37:12 PM
#93:


Lokarin posted...
I remember that Duriel was the hardest boss in the entire game ... I don't know why though, like what his mechanics were

he just catches a lot of players by surprise

he slows you down and is quick himself and hits pretty hard, plus you fight him in a fairly small area

Diablo and Baal are tougher fights though imo

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Joe_Biden
08/14/21 11:15:21 PM
#94:


Mead posted...
also it turns out the beta ends after act 2
yeah they said that

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Mead
08/14/21 11:31:06 PM
#95:


Joe_Biden posted...
yeah they said that

thats their job

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Black_Crusher
08/15/21 12:05:32 AM
#96:


Meanwhile over in regular D2 land, I have found the mighty STOUTNAIL and equally as mighty PENA LUNA (whatever the hell it's called, it's a unique buckler with pretty nuts block speed / chance for a low level item).

Both in the Countess' joint. STILL no friggin' Eth rune, what the hell.. I have to Rals I can't even use yet hah.

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Zareth
08/15/21 12:10:31 AM
#97:


Ral Ort Tal
Tal Dol Mal

I don't remember what either of those did but I remember them being good

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KodyKeir
08/15/21 12:21:09 AM
#98:


I was always more concerned for the gems and skulls, especially when you eventually get the ability to upgrade them to the next level by collecting enough of them and putting them in the box. Flawless Skulls and Flawless Emeralds were my favourite.

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Black_Crusher
08/15/21 1:16:27 AM
#99:


I forget which, but you can also use a Ral and a perfect gem to upgrade either a rare or unique in the cube. So say a normal Gull dagger would turn into a Gull with an exceptional dagger's base stats. I did this once for a Ribcracker and it got a massive damage boost.

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Cruddy_horse
08/15/21 1:00:59 PM
#100:


I wish there was a better word for "Cross-Progression" I thought there was crossplay which made me excited since I'd have 6 or so people to play with on another platform but no, it's just for cows that buy the same game on multiple ones.

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adjl
08/15/21 11:06:01 PM
#101:


Cruddy_horse posted...
I wish there was a better word for "Cross-Progression" I thought there was crossplay which made me excited since I'd have 6 or so people to play with on another platform but no, it's just for cows that buy the same game on multiple ones.

Usually, I've seen that called cross-saving or cloud saving, but that's not tremendously consistent.

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