Board 8 > Leonhart Plays The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles (Spoilers)

(+) Yeah! (+)

I like how Drebber's predictions for the time bomb were thrown off by the way I play Ace Attorney, searching for every available piece of dialogue

also his creepy smile animation is an all-time great villain animation

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it's kind of bittersweet that one of the last things we see from Gregson is him standing up for us, showing that we were slowly beginning to win him over

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I wonder what the significance is of Drebber's words randomly being in orange. Usually orange text is meant to highlight something important, but not for him. Is it supposed to highlight some verbal tic? Maybe some sort of mechanical voice since he moves around like a robot or something? I dunno!

Also sickest burn in the game so far:

Ryunosuke: But how is it possible to construct a machine without really understanding the principles it relies on?

Drebber: Well, you're practicing law without really understanding the principles it relies on, aren't you?

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LeonhartFour posted...

I wonder what the significance is of Drebber's words randomly being in orange. Usually orange text is meant to highlight something important, but not for him. Is it supposed to highlight some verbal tic? Maybe some sort of mechanical voice since he moves around like a robot or something? I dunno!

I wondered this too. My interpretation was that he has a verbal tic where he stresses odd parts of sentences, but it isn't really clear since he's never voice acted and there isn't any one line he gives that makes it clear what it's supposed to signify. (Shoutouts to stuff like that one line in AA3 where the Judge gets Godot's name wrong, thereby teaching the reader how to correctly pronounce Godot's name)

Paratroopa1 posted...

(Shoutouts to stuff like that one line in AA3 where the Judge gets Godot's name wrong, thereby teaching the reader how to correctly pronounce Godot's name)

Yeah, I love stuff like that. It's really well done way to convey pronunciation in a non-vocal medium.

also when the heck did the waxwork Professor model get into the courtroom, Ryunosuke just points and suddenly it's there

instantaneous kinesis IS real

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User @SaveEstelle did you finish these games?

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ye

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what is your hot take on them

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here's my hot take

Drebber's theme is an absolute banger

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Hot take: Best games in the franchise aside from PW3 and (supposedly) AAI2

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That is indeed a hot take but it is acceptable

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Actually, here's another hot take: this is the first case since 3-2 to introduce this many great characters themes in the same case between Harebrayne, Drebber, and Tusspells. 3-2 almost managed four with Ron, Atmey, and Godot, but I don't really like Larry's theme that much.

It's possible I'm forgetting another entrant since there are a lot of good character themes out there.

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I really like Sithe's theme too

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Yeah, I love the G2-3 characters and their themes. I wish Drebber's music played more often!

I'll offer up 4-2 because I like the Kitakis, Trucy, and Klavier's theme, but those are mostly main character themes being so good. G2-3 and 3-2 feel a little more unique since their one-off characters with really good themes.

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Whew, G2-3 complete at last. What a great case. You can tell when Takumi knew it was time to get serious because the multi-witness testimonies went away on the second day (even when Drebber, Sithe, and Tusspells were all up there, only one person was giving testimony at a time), and the jury was barely noticeable. Up to now, they tend to bog the case down, but they were actually put to good use this time.

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Total lines by segment:

G1-5 Trial Day 1 - 3458
G1-5 Investigation Day 1 - 2575
E1-5 Middle - 2476
E2-5 Beginning - 2350
6-5 Trial Day 2 - 2343
E2-2 End - 2154
G1-3 - 1998
G1-1 - 1985
G1-4 Trial Day 1 - 1950
6-5 Investigation Day 2 - 1907
3-5 Trial Day 2 - 1888
5-5 Trial Day 1 - 1693
G1-4 Investigation Day 1 - 1670
6-4 - 1650
E1-5 End - 1626
2-4 Trial Day 2 - 1613
E2-3 End - 1603
2-4 Investigation Day 1 - 1595
3-5 Investigation Day 2 - 1575
E2-5 Middle - 1575
G2-1 - 1548
G2-3 Investigation Day 2 - 1546
6-2 Trial Day 1 - 1540
G2-3 Trial Day 2 - 1525
4-3 Trial Day 2 - 1499
6-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1447
2-4 Investigation Day 2 - 1432
4-1 - 1421
E2-3 Middle - 1393
3-5 Investigation Day 1 - 1382
6-1 - 1362
3-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1358
6-5 Investigation Day 1 - 1340
1-5 Trial Day 3 - 1338
2-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1331
G2-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1329
2-4 Trial Day 1 - 1306
E2-2 Middle - 1248
3-4 - 1225
3-3 Investigation Day 2 - 1221
6-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1205
G2-2 Trial Day 2 - 1196
G1-2 Beginning - 1189
4-4 Investigation Day 2 - 1169
3-1 - 1167
4-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1154
5-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1149
6-5 Trial Day 1 - 1132
E2-4 End - 1129
3-2 Investigation Day 2 - 1127
4-3 Investigation Day 2 - 1127
3-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1093
5-6 Trial Day 2 - 1088
6-6 Investigation Day 1 - 1054
3-3 Trial Day 2 - 1041
G2-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1041
4-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1034
E1-4 Middle - 1030
6-3 Trial Day 2 - 1020
E2-1 Beginning - 1009
1-5 Investigation Day 2 - 1004
E1-4 End - 979
3-5 Trial Day 1 - 970
3-2 Trial Day 2 - 966
E2-3 Beginning - 963
E1-3 End - 953
1-5 Trial Day 1 - 938
1-5 Investigation Day 3 - 932
E1-4 Beginning - 926
2-2 Investigation Day 1 - 924
5-6 Investigation Day 1 - 921
6-3 Investigation Day 2 - 921
E2-1 End - 914
5-2 Trial Day 1 - 904
5-6 Investigation Day 2 - 903
2-3 Investigation Day 2 - 900
2-1 - 899
5-3 Trial Day 2 - 899
6-6 Trial Day 2 - 892
4-2 Investigation Day 2 - 891
5-2 Trial Day 2 - 875
G1-2 End - 875
1-5 Investigation Day 1 - 874
5-4 Investigation Day 1 - 872
E2-4 Beginning - 871
E2-4 Middle - 868
5-5 Investigation Day 1 - 857
G2-3 Trial Day 1 - 857
4-4 Investigation Day 1 - 853
E2-5 End - 852
2-3 Trial Day 1 - 851
4-3 Trial Day 1 - 834
6-3 Trial Day 1 - 833
1-5 Trial Day 2 - 827
5-2 Investigation Day 2 - 822
G2-2 Trial Day 1 - 822
2-2 Investigation Day 2 - 808
2-3 Trial Day 2 - 802
5-3 Investigation Day 2 - 789
E1-2 Beginning - 788
5-3 Investigation Day 1 - 785
2-2 Trial Day 2 - 764
4-4 Trial Day 1 - 748
E1-3 Beginning - 744
1-4 Investigation Day 2 - 729
5-3 Trial Day 1 - 729
E1-5 Beginning - 729
4-2 Trial Day 1 - 724
E1-3 Middle - 715
3-3 Trial Day 1 - 708
5-6 Trial Day 1 - 704
1-4 Investigation Day 1 - 700
3-2 Trial Day 1 - 700
4-2 Trial Day 2 - 699
G2-2 Investigation Day 2 - 693
4-0 - 679
E1-2 End - 670
1-3 Investigation Day 2 - 661
5-1 Trial Day 2 - 630
1-4 Trial Day 3 - 626
2-2 Trial Day 1 - 623
5-4 Trial Day 2 - 617
6-6 Trial Day 1 - 542
E1-2 Middle - 537
E1-1 Beginning - 535
E2-2 Beginning - 534
5-4 Trial Day 1 - 529
1-2 Trial Day 1 - 524
1-4 Trial Day 1 - 519
1-3 Trial Day 2 - 517
E1-1 End - 504
4-4 Trial Day 2 - 503
1-4 Investigation Day 3 - 478
5-1 Trial Day 1 - 472
1-3 Investigation Day 1 - 455
1-2 Trial Day 2 - 447
1-4 Trial Day 2 - 414
1-3 Trial Day 3 - 403
1-2 Investigation Day 1 - 402
1-2 Investigation Day 2 - 400
1-1 - 389
1-3 Trial Day 1 - 380
1-3 Investigation Day 3 - 325
G1-2 Middle - 288

Total lines by case:

6-5 - 6722
G1-5 - 6033
2-4 - 5946
1-5 - 5913
3-5 - 5815
G2-3 - 5257
E1-5 - 4831
E2-5 - 4777
4-3 - 4494
3-2 - 4151
3-3 - 4063
6-3 - 3979
E2-3 - 3959
4-4 - 3952
E2-2 - 3936
2-3 - 3884
G2-2 - 3752
5-2 - 3750
G1-4 - 3620
5-6 - 3616
4-2 - 3468
1-4 - 3466
5-3 - 3202
6-6 - 3134
2-2 - 3119
6-2 - 2987
E1-4 - 2935
E2-4 - 2868
1-3 - 2741
5-5 - 2550
E1-3 - 2412
G1-2 - 2352
5-4 - 2018
G1-3 - 1998
E1-2 - 1995
G1-1 - 1985
E2-1 - 1923
1-2 - 1773
6-4 - 1650
G2-1 - 1548
4-1 - 1421
6-1 - 1362
3-4 - 1225
3-1 - 1167
5-1 - 1102
E1-1 - 1039
2-1 - 899
4-0 - 679
1-1 - 389

Totals lines by game:

SoJ - 19834
AAI2 - 17463
T&T - 16422
DD - 16238
GAA1 - 15988
PW1 - 14282
JFA - 13848
AJ - 13335
AAI1 - 13212
GAA2 - 10557

Total lines between investigations and trials:

G2-3 Investigations - 2875 (54.69%)
G2-3 Trials - 2382 (45.31%)

Total lines by character per case:

The Return of the Great Departed Soul (G2-3)

1. Ryunosuke Naruhodo - 2049 (38.98%)
2. Susato Mikotoba - 590 (11.22%)
3. Barok van Zieks - 413 (7.86%)
4. Iris Wilson - 325 (6.18%)
5. Sherlock Holmes - 303 (5.76%)
6. Old Bailey Judge - 271 (5.16%)
7. Albert Harebrayne - 228
8. Enoch Drebber - 168
9. Esmeralda Tusspells - 161
10. Gina Lestrade - 141
11. Tobias Gregson - 139
12. Courtney Sithe - 116
13. Mael Stronghart - 78
14. Balthazar Lune - 49
15. Juror No. 4 (Royal Society Juror) - 41
16. Wilhelm Gottsreich Sigismond Ormstein - 38
17. Juror No. 6 (Policeman Juror) - 32
18. Juror No. 2 (High Society Juror) - 21
19. Juror No. 1 (Newspaper Juror) - 20
20. Juror No. 3 (Magician Juror) - 19
21. Other - 17
22. Juror No. 5 (Corn on the Cob Juror) - 15
23. Kazuma Asogi - 7
24. Maria Gorey - 6
25. Toby - 5
26. Yujin Mikotoba - 4
27. John H. Watson - 1

Total lines by character per game:

Great Ace Attorney 2

1. Ryunosuke Naruhodo - 3411
2. Susato Mikotoba - 1750
3. Barok van Zieks - 604
4. Sherlock Holmes - 539
5. Judge of the Old Bailey - 507
6. Iris Wilson - 399
7. Soseki Natsume - 262
8. Tobias Gregson - 236
9. Albert Harebrayne - 228
10. Taketsuchi Auchi - 194
11. Seshiro Jigoku - 189
12. Yujin Mikotoba - 188
13. Raiten Menimemo - 177
14. William Shamspeare - 176
15. Enoch Drebber - 168
16. Madame Esmeralda Tusspells - 161
17. Olive Green - 150
18. Courtney Sithe - 116
19. Quinby Altamont - 108
20. Rei Membami - 94
21. John Garrideb - 84
22. Mael Stronghart - 78
23. Satoru Hosonaga - 68
24. Adron B. Metermann - 63
25. Balthazar Lune - 49
26. Bruce Fairplay - 47
27. Brown Hat Juror - 41
28. Royal Society Juror - 41
29. Wilhelm Gottsreich Sigismond Ormstein - 38
30. Policeman Juror - 32
31. Day Laborer Juror - 29
32. Other - 27
33. Deaf Surgeon Juror - 23
34. High Society Juror - 21
35. Metropolitan Juror - 21
36. Newspaper Juror - 20
37. Magician Juror - 19
38. Kazuma Asogi - 16
39. Corn on the Cob Juror - 15
40. Maria Gorey - 6
41. Duncan Ross - 5
42. Jezaille Brett - 5
43. Toby - 5
44. Wagahai - 3
45. John H. Watson - 2
46. Selden - 1

Line totals per character by grouping:

The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles

Ryunosuke Naruhodo - 9040
Susato Mikotoba - 3699
Sherlock Holmes - 1414
Judge of the Old Bailey - 1303
Barok van Zieks - 1296
Iris Wilson - 1240
Tobias Gregson - 604
Gina Lestrade - 543
Taketsuchi Auchi - 451
Kazuma Asogi - 447
Soseki Natsume - 399
Seshiro Jigoku - 398
Satoru Hosonaga - 366
John Garrideb - 269
Yujin Mikotoba - 227
Mael Stronghart - 191
Bruce Fairplay - 185
William Shamspeare - 185
Jezaille Brett - 132
Deaf Surgeon Juror - 112
Brown Suit Juror - 86
Day Laborer Juror - 84
Adron B. Metermann - 69
Metropolitan Lady Juror - 56
Beppo - 35
Wagahai - 11
John H. Watson - 6

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Most lines per case:

Apollo Justice (6-5) - 2482
Phoenix Wright (2-4) - 2194
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-5) - 2058
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G2-3) - 2049
Miles Edgeworth (E1-5) - 2036
Phoenix Wright (1-5) - 2032
Miles Edgeworth (E2-5) - 1854
Phoenix Wright (6-3) - 1731
Apollo Justice (4-3) - 1673
Miles Edgeworth (E2-2) - 1597
Phoenix Wright (3-5) - 1570
Apollo Justice (5-2) - 1529
Phoenix Wright (3-3) - 1476
Phoenix Wright (3-2) - 1433
Phoenix Wright (2-2) - 1370
Phoenix Wright (6-6) - 1366
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G2-2) - 1362
Phoenix Wright (5-6) - 1349
Apollo Justice (4-2) - 1339
Miles Edgeworth (E1-4) - 1328
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-4) - 1296
Athena Cykes (5-3) - 1260
Phoenix Wright (2-3) - 1236
Phoenix Wright (1-4) - 1211
Apollo Justice (6-2) - 1170
Miles Edgeworth (E2-4) - 1133
Phoenix Wright (1-3) - 1117
Miles Edgeworth (E1-3) - 1059
Miles Edgeworth (E1-2) - 936
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-2) - 935
Phoenix Wright (5-5) - 931
Phoenix Wright (4-4) - 914
Miles Edgeworth (E2-3) - 870
Miles Edgeworth (E2-1) - 830
Phoenix Wright (1-2) - 812
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-3) - 680
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-1) - 660
Athena Cykes (6-4) - 646
Phoenix Wright (5-4) - 588
Susato Mikotoba (G2-1) - 560
Phoenix Wright (6-1) - 514
Miles Edgeworth (E1-1) - 466
Apollo Justice (4-1) - 440
Mia Fey (3-4) - 436
Mia Fey (3-1) - 396
Phoenix Wright (5-1) - 337
Phoenix Wright (2-1) - 329
Phoenix Wright (4-0) - 236
Phoenix Wright (1-1) - 135

Highest percentage of lines per case:

Miles Edgeworth (E1-2) - 46.92%
Phoenix Wright (1-2) - 45.80%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-4) - 45.25%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-1) - 44.85%
Phoenix Wright (2-2) - 43.92%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-3) - 43.91%
Phoenix Wright (6-6) - 43.59%
Phoenix Wright (6-3) - 43.50%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-1) - 43.16%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-5) - 42.14%
Apollo Justice (5-2) - 40.77%
Phoenix Wright (1-3) - 40.75%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-2) - 40.57%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-2) - 39.75%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-4) - 39.50%
Athena Cykes (5-3) - 39.35%
Apollo Justice (6-2) - 39.17%
Athena Cykes (6-4) - 39.15%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G2-3) - 38.98%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-5) - 38.81%
Apollo Justice (4-2) - 38.61%
Phoenix Wright (6-1) - 37.74%
Phoenix Wright (5-6) - 37.31%
Apollo Justice (4-3) - 37.23%
Apollo Justice (6-5) - 36.92%
Phoenix Wright (2-4) - 36.90%
Phoenix Wright (2-1) - 36.60%
Phoenix Wright (5-5) - 36.51%
Phoenix Wright (3-3) - 36.33%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G2-2) - 36.30%
Susato Mikotoba (G2-1) - 36.18%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-4) - 35.80%
Mia Fey (3-4) - 35.59%
Phoenix Wright (1-4) - 34.94%
Phoenix Wright (4-0) - 34.76%
Phoenix Wright (1-1) - 34.70%
Phoenix Wright (3-2) - 34.52%
Phoenix Wright (1-5) - 34.36%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-5) - 34.11%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-3) - 34.03%
Mia Fey (3-1) - 33.93%
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (G1-1) - 33.25%
Phoenix Wright (2-3) - 31.82%
Apollo Justice (4-1) - 30.96%
Phoenix Wright (5-1) - 30.58%
Phoenix Wright (5-4) - 29.14%
Phoenix Wright (3-5) - 27.00%
Phoenix Wright (4-4) - 23.13%
Miles Edgeworth (E2-3) - 21.98%

Testimonies by character:

82. Betty de Famme - 13 lines/2 testimonies
83. Enoch Drebber - 13 lines/2 testimonies
84. Yanni Yogi - 13 lines/2 testimonies
85. Dane Gustavia - 12 lines/2 testimonies
86. John Marsh - 12 lines/2 testimonies
87. Kristoph Gavin - 12 lines/2 testimonies
88. Pierce Nichody - 12 lines/2 testimonies
89. Sal Manella - 12 lines/2 testimonies
90. Zinc Lablanc - 12 lines/2 testimonies
91. Blaise Debeste - 11 lines/2 testimonies
92. Jay Elbird - 11 lines/2 testimonies
93. Sorin Sprocket - 11 lines/2 testimonies
94. Tyrell Badd - 11 lines/2 testimonies
95. Aristotle Means - 10 lines/2 testimonies
96. Katherine Hall - 10 lines/2 testimonies
97. Lance Amano - 10 lines/2 testimonies
98. Norma DePlume - 10 lines/2 testimonies
99. Patricia Beate - 10 lines/2 testimonies
100. Richard Wellington - 10 lines/2 testimonies
101. Roger Retinz/The Great Mr. Reus - 10 lines/2 testimonies
102. The Judge - 10 lines/2 testimonies
103. Myriam Scuttlebutt - 9 lines/2 testimonies
104. Rhoda Teneiro - 9 lines/2 testimonies
105. Cammy Meele - 8 lines/2 testimonies
106. Olive Green - 7 lines/2 testimonies
107. Solomon Starbuck - 7 lines/2 testimonies
108. Albert Harebrayne - 6 lines/2 testimonies
109. Iyesa Nosa - 6 lines/2 testimonies
110. Adron B. Metermann - 5 lines/2 testimonies
111. Balthazar Lune - 5 lines/2 testimonies
112. Kyurio Korekuta - 4 lines/2 testimonies
113. Robin Newman - 14 lines/1 testimony
114. Dhurke Sahdmadhi - 8 lines/1 testimony
115. Miles Edgeworth - 8 lines/1 testimony
116. Courtney Sithe - 7 lines/1 testimony
117. Damian Tenma - 7 lines/1 testimony
118. Herman Crab - 7 lines/1 testimony
119. Madame Esmeralda Tusspells - 7 lines/1 testimony
120. Trucy Wright - 7 lines/1 testimony
121. Wocky Kitaki - 7 lines/1 testimony
122. Bonny/Betty de Famme - 6 lines/1 testimony
123. Di-Jun Huang - 6 lines/1 testimony
124. Jinxie Tenma - 6 lines/1 testimony
125. Kay Faraday - 6 lines/1 testimony
126. Karin Jenson/Bonnie Young - 6 lines/1 testimony
127. Morgan Fey - 6 lines/1 testimony
128. Nahyuta Sahdmadhi - 6 lines/1 testimony
129. Ponco - 6 lines/1 testimony
130. Terry Fawles - 6 lines/1 testimony
131. Vera Misham - 6 lines/1 testimony
132. Jezaille Brett - 5 lines/1 testimony
133. Magnus McGilded - 5 lines/1 testimony
134. Sasha Buckler - 5 lines/1 testimony
135. The Bellboy - 5 lines/1 testimony
136. Ahlbi Ur'gaid - 4 lines/1 testimony
137. Apollo Justice - 4 lines/1 testimony
138. John Garrideb - 4 lines/1 testimony
139. Nicole Swift - 4 lines/1 testimony
140. Orla Shipley - 4 lines/1 testimony
141. Quinby Altamont - 4 lines/1 testimony
142. Polly - 3 lines/1 testimony
143. Roly Beate - 3 lines/1 testimony
144. Wilhelm Gottsreich Sigismond Ormstein - 2 lines/1 testimony
145. Joan Garrideb - 1 line/1 testimony
146. Rei Membami - 1 line/1 testimony

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Total lines by character:

1. Phoenix Wright - 24094
2. Miles Edgeworth - 15372
3. Apollo Justice - 10237
4. Ryunosuke Naruhodo - 9040
5. The Judge - 6966
6. Maya Fey - 5237
7. Athena Cykes - 4816
8. Dick Gumshoe - 4089
9. Susato Mikotoba - 3699
10. Kay Faraday - 3370
11. Trucy Wright - 2629
12. Ema Skye - 2434
13. Franziska von Karma - 2314
14. Mia Fey - 1418
15. Sherlock Holmes - 1414
16. Judge of the Old Bailey - 1303
17. Barok van Zieks - 1296
18. Pearl Fey - 1281
19. Simon Blackquill - 1280
20. Iris Wilson - 1240
21. Larry Butz - 1205
22. Klavier Gavin - 1154
23. Shi-Long Lang - 1101
24. Justine Courtney - 1016
25. Rayfa Padma Khura'in - 988
26. Raymond Shields - 971
27. Godot - 902
28. Nahyuta Sahdmadhi - 892
29. Khura'in Judge - 754
30. Bobby Fulbright - 700
31. Gregory Edgeworth - 649
32. Lotta Hart - 648
33. Tobias Gregson - 604
34. Tyrell Badd - 593
35. Dahlia Hawthorne - 578
36. Dhurke Sahdmadhi - 562
37. Wendy Oldbag - 553
38. Gina Lestrade - 543
39. Sebastian Debeste - 521
40. Calisto Yew/Shih-na - 489
41. Adrian Andrews - 459
42. Winston Payne - 453
43. Taketsuchi Auchi - 451
44. Kazuma Asogi - 447
45. Manfred von Karma - 444
46. The Judge's Brother - 421
47. Soseki Natsume - 399
48. Seishiro Jigoku - 398
49. Shelly de Killer - 387
50. Lamiroir/Thalassa Gramarye - 386
51. Datz Are'bal - 381
52. Will Powers - 380
53. Simon Keyes - 380
54. Satoru Hosonaga - 366
55. Bikini - 351
56. Gaspen Payne - 335
57. Ga'ran Sigatar Khura'in - 329
58. Maggey Byrde - 323
59. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 320
60. Kristoph Gavin - 319
61. Ahlbi Ur'gaid - 319
62. Quercus Alba - 303
63. Ashley Graydon - 302
64. Valant Gramarye - 298
65. Luke Atmey - 292
66. Damon Gant - 285
67. Juniper Woods - 277
68. Ini Miney - 275
69. Angel Starr - 272
70. Ron DeLite - 271
71. John Garrideb - 269
72. Rhoda Teneiro - 268
73. Katherine Hall - 267
74. Blaise Debeste - 265
75. Regina Berry - 261
76. Jake Marshall - 257
77. Jean Armstrong - 251
78. Nicole Swift - 250
79. Lana Skye - 249
80. Victor Kudo - 247
81. Mike Meekins - 235
82. Marvin Grossberg - 234
83. Jacques Portsman - 231
84. Spark Brushel - 230
85. Albert Harebrayne - 228
86. Yujin Mikotoba - 227
87. Frank Sahwit - 219
88. Alita Tiala - 219
89. Hugh O'Conner - 218
90. Marlon Rimes - 217
91. Patricia Roland - 217
92. Daryan Crescend - 216
93. Dane Gustavia - 209
94. Horace Knightley - 209
95. Florent L'Belle - 208
96. Maximillion Galactica - 203
97. Ben & Trilo Quist - 200
98. Pierce Nichody - 200
99. Yuri Cosmos - 199
100. Sasha Buckler - 198
101. Penny Nichols - 194
102. Phineas Filch - 192
103. Jinxie Tenma - 191
104. Mael Stronghart - 191
105. Paul Atishon-Wimperson - 187
106. Uendo Toneido (Combined) - 186
107. Bruce Fairplay - 185
108. William Shamspeare - 185
109. Armie Buff/Sarge - 182
110. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182
111. Roger Retinz/Mr. Reus - 182
112. Iris - 181
113. Herman Crab - 180
114. Magnus McGilded - 180
115. Damian Tenma - 179
116. Nash Skulkin - 178
117. Pees'lubn Andistan'dhin - 178
118. Raiten Menimemo - 177
119. Furio Tigre - 176
120. Zak Gramarye - 174
121. Matt Engarde - 171
122. Nikolina Pavlova - 170
123. Sirhan Dogen - 170
124. Cammy Meele - 168
125. Enoch Drebber - 168
126. Morgan Fey - 165
127. Redd White - 162
128. Madame Esmeralda Tusspells - 161
129. Betty de Famme - 158
130. Ringo Skulkin - 155
131. Aristotle Means - 154
132. Solomon Starbuck - 154
133. John Marsh - 153
134. Robin Newman - 153
135. Delicia Scones - 151
136. Colias Palaeno - 150
137. Olive Green - 150
138. Dee Vasquez - 148
139. Zinc Lablanc - 146
140. Ellen Wyatt - 143
141. Desiree DeLite - 142
142. Ted Tonate - 141
143. Trilo Quist - 140
144. Joan Garrideb - 138
145. Wesley Stickler - 138
146. Cody Hackins - 135
147. Norma DePlume - 134
148. Jezaille Brett - 132
149. Olga Orly - 131
150. Patricia Beate - 131
151. Lauren Paups - 130
152. Tahrust Inmee - 130
153. Karin Jenson - 129
154. Sorin Sprocket - 127
155. Amara Sigatar Khura'in - 123
156. Myriam Scuttlebutt - 123
157. Aura Blackquill - 122
158. Guy Eldoon - 118
159. Courtney Sithe - 116
160. Bonny de Famme - 113
161. Deaf Surgeon Juror - 112
162. Wocky Kitaki - 112
163. Di-Jun Huang - 110
164. Bif Strogenov - 109
165. Geiru Toneido - 108
166. Quinby Altamont - 108
167. The Phantom - 107
168. Richard Wellington - 107
169. April May - 104
170. Uendo Toneido - 104
171. Vera Misham - 104
172. Jay Elbird - 102
173. Yanni Yogi - 98
174. Roly Beate - 95
175. Rei Membami - 94
176. Beh'leeb Inmee - 92
177. Lance Amano - 92
178. Jeff Master - 90
179. Pop Windibank - 90
180. Brown Suit Juror - 86
181. Day Laborer Juror - 84
182. Viola Cadaverini - 80
183. Communications Officer Juror - 77
184. Director Hotti/Doctor Hickfield - 76
185. Plum Kitaki - 76
186. Terry Fawles - 74
187. Drew Misham - 74
188. Iyesa Nosa - 73
189. The Bellboy - 72
190. Lay D. Furst - 70
191. Adron B. Metermann - 69
192. Ernest Amano - 68
193. Ponco - 66
194. OCD Maid Juror - 61
195. Benjamin Woodman - 60
196. Sal Manella - 59
197. Metropolitan Lady Juror - 56
198. Chief of Detectives - 55
199. Bonnie Young - 53
200. Vilen Borshevik - 51
201. Patches - 50
202. Balthazar Lune - 49
203. Inga Karkhuul Khura'in - 46
204. Kisegawa - 46
205. Lisa Basil - 46
206. Kyurio Korekuta - 45
207. Stereoscope Juror - 45
208. Clonco - 43
209. Widget - 42
210. Machi Tobaye - 41
211. Royal Society Juror - 41
212. Orla Shipley - 40
213. Bucky Whet - 39
214. Turner Grey - 39
215. Wilhelm Gottsreich Sigismond Ormstein - 38
216. Top Hat and Rose Juror - 36
217. Beppo - 35
218. Policeman Juror - 32
219. Elise Deauxnim - 30
220. Knife Wielding Juror - 30
221. Guildmaster Coachman Juror - 29
222. Knitting Grandma Juror - 27
223. Owen - 26
224. The Amazing Mr. Hat - 22
225. High Society Juror - 21
226. Shah'do - 21
227. Missile - 20
228. Newspaper Juror - 20
229. Polly - 20
230. Winfred "Big Wins" Kitaki - 20
231. Magician Juror - 19
232. Corn on the Cob Juror - 15
233. Romein LeTouse - 13
234. Wagahai - 11
235. Taka - 10

Overall total lines - 151179

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Moving on to G2-4, the title of the case is "Twisted Karma and His Last Bow." I'm wondering if Twisted Karma is supposed to be a play on Kazuma's sword, Karuma, but I'm not sure.

But "His Last Bow" is the final story in the Holmes canon in terms of chronology (although not the final one ever written by Doyle). Most Holmes stories take place in the late 1800s or early 1900s, but this one takes place shortly before the start of World War I (Doyle published the story in 1917, so you could almost view the story as wartime propaganda). It's also one of only two Holmes stories that isn't written from Watson's perspective. It's written in third person, and it's more of a spy story than a mystery. Holmes assumes the alias "Altamont" during this story, which showed up as the name of the gas company in G2-2.

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oh hey it's the Guildmaster Coachman Juror, only now he's merely a porter at an expensive hotel, presumably thanks to Ryunosuke's work in G1-3...!

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Looking forward to seeing how much this next case boosts Kazuma's total

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Huh I'm quite surprised, I thought you'd have finished the game. Glad there's more for me to read then.

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I'm surprised you didn't just use Evie's name for Juror Number 2, especially since you used Gorey's name and that doesn't show up until case 4 either.

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Leonhart4 posted...

That is indeed a hot take but it is acceptable

Maybe I'm mistaking what a hot take is but I'm pretty sure what Estelle said is popular opinion right now.

Raka_Putra posted...

Huh I'm quite surprised, I thought you'd have finished the game. Glad there's more for me to read then.

He says in the OP he saw an LP of the games awhile ago because he didn't believe they'd be localized.
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I'm not sure GAA2 will dethrone the original PW1 overall, but it's a good enough game that it won't be an outlier opinion.

Mewtwo59 posted...

I'm surprised you didn't just use Evie's name for Juror Number 2, especially since you used Gorey's name and that doesn't show up until case 4 either.

I did not know they had a given name. I knew Maria did, so I looked it up.

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The "main story" of those two games is fantastic
The main characters are also fantastic
But those games suffer from the same problem all recent AA games suffer from - it's too bloated

I mean, come on, looking at the "line count per case" G2-3 is up there with all the epic cases, and G1-1 is like 2-1 and 3-1 combined
Between juries and multiple witnesses at the same time, there is plenty of text

Of course I am sure that for some people "more text=better" but to me it was kinda tiring after 50 hours to be honest

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Leonhart4 posted...

I'm not sure GAA2 will dethrone the original PW1 overall, but it's a good enough game that it won't be an outlier opinion.

I mean, if we look past the nostalgia and give it a pass for being the first game, it's kind of lacking. 1-1 is a 30 minute mini case and 1-2 and 1-3 have some serious early installment weirdness and awkward story beats. The last two cases are the main standouts. From what I've seen, most people tend to rank AA1 around the middle.
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That's not what I've seen. PW1 consistently ranks in the top 3.

And 1-3 is amazing despite its issues.

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GiftedACIII posted...

He says in the OP he saw an LP of the games awhile ago because he didn't believe they'd be localized.

I know, but I saw his topic even before I started mine.
TBF, I finished my playthrough so fast because I didn't want to get caught up to by my friend (she overtook me by the end).

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I think I'd put 1 around the middle, yeah. Top 3 for me would probably be 3, 6, and GAA2

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Leonhart4 posted...

That's not what I've seen. PW1 consistently ranks in the top 3.

And 1-3 is amazing despite its issues.

This is of course anecdotal and depends on the demographics of who's there at the time but here were some polls I've seen that were done of it
https://www.reddit.com/r/AceAttorney/comments/ir9wax/updated_ace_attorney_cases_from_worst_to_best/
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/180648-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-spirit-of-justice/74458007
Here is someone else's observations on it https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/318976-the-great-ace-attorney-chronicles/79627791/957438331 (although I'd personally swap JFA with AJ since I've seen numerous people outright quit the series due to AJ but AJ did seem to have a surge of fans recently somehow)

1-3 is considered part of the 3rd case syndrome prior to Layton vs.

Perhaps there might be some recency bias since I remember SoJ was part of the top 3 the past few years before it suddenly went down a little but yeah, currently I've noticed the most common top 3s are T&T, AAI2, and Resolve. AA1 was always around the middle, albeit on the higher end.
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1-3 gets lumped in there, but it shouldn't. That's the case that really shows you what Ace Attorney can be before 1-4 kicks it into overdrive.

And my time to play is limited because I am married and also working pretty much every day, so I only get in a few hours at most per day. I've had to adjust to the slower pace of play (it took me like six months to beat Cold Steel IV!).

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1-3 does have its issues imo. The investigations are oddly paced, which is something AA1 has in general, due to its 3 day short investigation, and 3 day short trial system that they eventually made to a 2 day longer investigation and trial that became the default. This makes seeing the culprit for the first time at the 3rd investigation feel kind of cheap. The culprit themselves isn't very strong either, not having much of a personality other than being stoic and shocked. The final segment is you proving it was self-defense which just feels anti-climatic due to how antagonistic they were being and the lengths they went to cover it up. They tried harder than the all-powerful CEO from the last case.

The main positives of the case are Will Powers being a cool defendant who shows up again for the best case in the series, Edgeworth's first time aiming for the truth over his victory, and the introduction of steel samurai which becomes a prominent part of AA's lore (although the fact it was directed by a perverted creep does feel off in retrospect. They probably would've changed his characterization if they know how prominent it would be).
The case itself is kind of meh though, its positives are mainly introducing recurring elements.
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Dee Vasquez is a good villain. Her stoic, no-selling personality leads to a lot of funny moments.

And it has a few twists that will blow your mind the first time you play it because you didn't realize it was that kind of game, and it's great.

It's also unique because this is the only time you get to see Phoenix/Maya before they really know each other, and it's a cool dynamic.

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That's fair if you think that, but she's one of the least memorable culprits in the series despite appearing in the first game. Every other culprit in the trilogy is more memorable, I'd go so far as to even say I hear about Wellington more.
Like I said, most of its pros come from nostalgia and its legacy of doing things "first" but playing it after beating the whole series it's lacking compared to its better written and better paced successors.
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Unpopular opinion - I feel like 1-2 deserves a "Story remake"
The ending was pretty lame even when it was the only game we played...and now thinking back about it it's even worse

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Yeah for how much they build him up Redd White is really underwhelming

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I think Redd White ties with L'Belle and Wellington for dumbest culprit in the series. Although unlike them this moron had a massive impact on the plot and backstories of multiple characters.
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I think Menimemo deserves to be up there for sending in a piece of evidence that does nothing but implicate him.

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The OT has a murderers row (literally) of great culprits, so I concede she's one of the weaker ones, but I still think she's good.

1-3 does rely on nostalgia to an extent, but there's the framework of a really excellent case in there despite its logistical problems.

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AA1 has two cases better than 1-3, and both GAA games also have two cases better than 1-3. It's not a bad place for a case to be.
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hombad46 posted...

I think Menimemo deserves to be up there for sending in a piece of evidence that does nothing but implicate him.

Him figuring out that he needs to kill her before the poison would implicate him was a legit big brain move. Too bad it failed. But yeah, he is on the dumber end when it comes to incriminating himself but to his credit he was good at making excuses once he was on the stand and kept his composure relatively well.

Leonhart4 posted...

The OT has a murderers row (literally) of great culprits, so I concede she's one of the weaker ones, but I still think she's good.

1-3 does rely on nostalgia to an extent, but there's the framework of a really excellent case in there despite its logistical problems.

Fair enough. That's honestly more of a hot take though.

Mac Arrowny posted...

AA1 has two cases better than 1-3, and both GAA games also have two cases better than 1-3. It's not a bad place for a case to be.

lol now that's an interesting take. I'd say GAA has 6 if not 7 cases better than 1-3.
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Nah, I know I'm in the minority there. People remember how annoying it is to navigate Global Studios, and I remember the big twists and Edgeworth's face turn (which is still a top ten moment for the series).

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I'm not sure GAA1 has one case better than 1-3...!

GAA2 probably has a couple though, yeah.

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Leonhart4 posted...

I'm not sure GAA1 has one case better than 1-3...!

GAA2 probably has a couple though, yeah.

You didn't like GAA1-3? I think the entirety of resolve is better than 1-3, with the 1st case being closest and as an overall might be worse than 1-3 although I still really enjoyed it more. In Adventures, 1-1 and 1-2 are something I for sure think are worse cases. I know 1-4 isn't liked either but I actually thought it was decent. 1-5 gets draggy and it's bad as a finale but still likely better as a case.
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GAA1-1 and 1-3 both utilize circumstantial evidence surrounding steak as sound legal arguments. But does 1-3 have a hidden baby? I don't think so! Anyway 1-3 wins.

GAA1-2 and GAA1-4 are definitely NOT better than 1-3. I like GAA1-4 more than most, but it just isn't.

GAA1-3 is a great case, but it's still mired in tutorial stuff and bad character design. 1-3 wins.

I'd say GAA1-5 is better than 1-3, but it's a tough call. 1-3 is formative for the series in many ways. It has the first real surprising twist that the series is known for, and it's got some good Edgeworth. The culprit is a big whatever. That said, there is just so much "more" to GAA1-5 than 1-3 in terms of stakes, characters, and emotional heft.

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I like G1-3 and G1-5 a lot! But I think super highly of 1-3. I'd rank it as a borderline top ten case (subject to change now that we have ten new cases to rank and I haven't ranked everything yet).

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colliding posted...

But does 1-3 have a hidden baby? I don't think so! Anyway 1-3 wins.

colliding posted...

bad character design. 1-3 wins.

Sal Manella.
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GiftedACIII posted...

Sal Manella.

I'll take Sal Manella over any of those witnesses. At least Sal (and Fairplay, to play fair) looks like an actual human whereas the other two seem like they're straight out of a different video game.

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That's a fair opinion. Personally, I'd rather have cartoony and artistically out of place characters than repulsive perverted ones.
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