Poll of the Day > 10 y/o Girl Dressed up as HITLER and READ out his ACCOMPLISHMENTS in Class!!!

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A New Jersey Teacher has resgined from his job today after he allowed a 5th grade FEMALE student to dress up as HITLER AND to write an ESSAY about his ACCOMPLISMENTS!!

The teacher and principal at Maugham Elementary have been on a leave of absence as a board meeting voted to accept the resignation of the teacher who hasn't been named but reinstated Principal Jennifer Ferrara

Superintendent Shauna DeMarco of Tenafly Public Schools said "While everyone might not agree with my ultimate recommendations, it's important to know that i have taken every piece of feedback that i have received seriously"

Ferrara said she reflected on the decisions she made and how they impacted students, staff and the community and said what she did was a mistake and played a role in it and is extremely sorry and the experience made her think more broadly about the consequences

The online outrage occurred when a photo of the student's report hanging in the wall went viral after realizing what the child was writing about

The 5th grade student was assigned a "Character Development Project" where he dressed up as Hitler and wrote an essay that he read out the dictator's "accomplishments" in class

The girl wrote a one page essay in HITLER'S VOICE to describe his rise in power

Word spread on this project that outraged a mother and was shared on FB which eventually got back to the school as outraged parents demanded the teacher fired and said shame on them for allowing a 10 y/o child to dress as hitler

Mayor Mark Zinna said "Antisemitism is in full form right here in Bergen County"

This was part of a Character Development Project assigned in April where students selected a historical figure of their choice and that it was handed out by a JEWISH teacher who issued it "within the context of social justice".

The school said the assignment was written out of context but that did not bode well with the public who still demanded punishment

Do you think her PARENTS should be investigated?

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I see the merit as a thought experiment, but I question how much benefit 10-year-olds are going to get from such an activity. That seems a little nuanced for that age bracket.

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What kind of sick parents make their kid do this?

Did you read the last sentence?

Wow...

I can't even imagine that line coming out of the mouth of a 10 year old.

Monopoman posted...

Did you read the last sentence?

Wow...

I can't even imagine that line coming out of the mouth of a 10 year old.

Ignore the duckbear clickbait titles. It was a class assignment on "good and evil" people in history where they had to write about their notable deeds and such. Nowhere near as bad as duckbear suggests.

Also the teacher is jewish.

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Yaknow, I can see a kid being socially ignorant enough to just pick a famous leader and there's few more famous than Hitler and read a list of basic accomplishments... I mean, you can't ignore that he did change the world... history isn't all strawberry icecream, it has great assholes.

But ya - the teacher probably shoulda vetted the assignements

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I feel like there has to be a lot of missing context here.

Monopoman posted...

Did you read the last sentence?

Wow...

I can't even imagine that line coming out of the mouth of a 10 year old.

She was describing what Hitler did. You kinda can't omit that part of the story, even if she omitted the fact that the concentration camps claimed a lot of non-Jewish victims as well.

Kimbos_Egg posted...

Ignore the duckbear clickbait titles. It was a class assignment on "good and evil" people in history where they had to write about their notable deeds and such. Nowhere near as bad as duckbear suggests.

Also the teacher is jewish.

Well, if you're picking evil, it's hard to go find anybody worse than Hitler. He's the Hitler of Hitlers. (Although we've seen plenty of genocidal madmen over the years.)

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I mean at least she didn't deny the holocaust, there is a good chunk of crazy right wingers that believe it never happened.

Monopoman posted...

Did you read the last sentence?

Wow...

I can't even imagine that line coming out of the mouth of a 10 year old.

It was more the "I was pretty great wasnt I?" line that made my eyes pop. Doing a book report on hitler is one thing but glorifying him is terrible.

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Monopoman posted...

I mean at least she didn't deny the holocaust, there is a good chunk of crazy right wingers that believe it never happened.

I think its less evil to believe it didnt happen than to believe it is a good thing.

Yeah, I have seen quite a few Hitler projects in middle and highschool. They love to emphasize how he pulled Germany out of the depression and the early war victories, but really hate mentioning how he created a police state, committed genocide and made horrendous decisions on various parts of the war effort that resulted in Germany losing. You definitely need a lot of sugar to try to coat Hitler, but he is charismatic and people like being contrarians, so you will see quite a few projects on him despite this fact.

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People get fired/forced to resign for the stupidest things. This was going to far (don't think the teacher should have allowed Hitler to be an option, nor do I even think the assignment was in good taste (having kids pretend to be evil leaders etc and describe their "accomplishments", but having a teacher fired/lose their job over this is silly.

Just reprimand the teacher and say "don't do projects like this again", also why don't these teachers have to put their lesson plans forward first like in the schools I taught. We either A: had to follow the plans that are pre-set, or B: had to give new lesson plans up for inspection before teaching them. We didn't get to just do a "lets pretend to be hitler" lesson plan without getting it ok'd.

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It's one thing to do a report or biography of an infamous (and arguably one of the most terrible in this case) historical figure. It's another to have their crimes and atrocities literally framed as "accomplishments".

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Monopoman posted...

I mean at least she didn't deny the holocaust, there is a good chunk of crazy right wingers that believe it never happened.

Oh lawdy.

RoboXgp89
7/14/2021 1:03:19 PM
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Hitler and the Germans [claim made in apparently-since-deleted post (got an error message while trying to quote it, so I'm not copy/pasting that whole thing in case it was a moderation instead of a self-delete)]

You're going to have to walk me through that distinction, because I'm not following it. I'm trying to think what that could even mean.

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sodium-chloride posted...

It's one thing to do a report or biography of an infamous (and arguably one of the most terrible in this case) historical figure. It's another to have their crimes and atrocities literally framed as "accomplishments".

Well, I mean, becoming a leader of country is undeniably an accomplishment even if you're evil and that's all she calls an accomplishment. The only thing about the story I found odd was the dressing up part. Like...why? That's weird. Not really something to want to lynch the teacher or girl over though.

Sycophant posted...

I think its less evil to believe it didnt happen than to believe it is a good thing.

The thing about Holocaust deniers is they're convinced that it takes a special, Jewish kind of evil, a special, Jewish kind of power to successfully "frame" Germany with a "hoax" like the Holocaust. The subtext of Holocaust denial is that if it didn't happen, it should have.

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Criminalt posted...

The thing about Holocaust deniers is they're convinced that it takes a special, Jewish kind of evil, a special, Jewish kind of power to successfully "frame" Germany with a "hoax" like the Holocaust. The subtext of Holocaust denial is that if it didn't happen, it should have.

Oh in that case its worse lol my bad.

This kind of crap has been going on in American schools forever. Plenty of dumbass questions about 'the benefits of slavery' getting crapped out of the brains of American teachers brought up with an American education.

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Tbh, I think that making children write in first person from the perspective of historical figures is probably not a great idea in general, or at the very least, not students so young.

ReturnOfFa posted...

This kind of crap has been going on in American schools forever. Plenty of dumbass questions about 'the benefits of slavery' getting crapped out of the brains of American teachers brought up with an American education.

I never got that, but I did get the "states' rights" nonsense alongside having a wonky teacher who heavily romanticized post Civil War Southern history and culture.

I also have distinct memories of being very, very young, and being taught that MLK Jr's death singlehandedly ended racism in the USA, like he was some sort of Jesus savior figure whose blood saved the country from its sins and not an assassinated socialist intersectional advocate whose many hopes for the country have still gone unrealized.

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ReturnOfFa posted...

This kind of crap has been going on in American schools forever. Plenty of dumbass questions about 'the benefits of slavery' getting crapped out of the brains of American teachers brought up with an American education.

It is a interesting dillema to think about. Cause slavery did benefit the country if morals are not considered. All those that died in the civil war was perhaps karma from reaping the benefits of the slaves hard work. Interesting to wonder just how different this country would be had we never done it. Would be better or worse off? No way to really know

Now I'm not saying I condone slavery just that if there was no benefit it would have been pointless outside just being evil.

On topic yeah I don't think the teacher shoulda got in trouble. Dressing up as Hitler was a bit much but I do prefer to view people in shades of grey rather than black and white. I always viewed hitler as purely evil but then I saw a video that disturbed me cause it was him seeming like a good decent and charming guy. I see the whole picture though and give credit where credit is due. Just cause you admit they did a good thing doesnt necessarily mean you are ignoring the bad. I never knew of any good hitler did as they only covered the bad in my classes. But seeing the whole picture I feel helps drive home evil can be lurking in otherwise seemingly good people

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Full Throttle posted...

Do you think her PARENTS should be investigated?

The article never mentioned the student's parents. I have no reason to think they have any involvement in this school project.

Full Throttle posted...

Ferrara said she reflected on the decisions she made and how they impacted students, staff and the community

Her only concern should be if her students learned what was on the curriculum and not with anyone else.

Full Throttle posted...

Mayor Mark Zinna said "Antisemitism is in full form right here in Bergen County"

That sounds like a good reason why they should learn about Hitler and what happened under his leadership.

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Whats wrote on there isnt wrong from what hitler did its pretty accurate he wasnt a good guy like youd think people

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mooreandrew58 posted...

I see the whole picture though and give credit where credit is due. Just cause you admit they did a good thing doesnt necessarily mean you are ignoring the bad. I never knew of any good hitler did as they only covered the bad in my classes. But seeing the whole picture I feel helps drive home evil can be lurking in otherwise seemingly good people

I don't think there is much good in Hitler. Maybe, if you are going waaay back to WW1, you can say he wave a brave and honorable soldier, but as a world leader he was terrible. he was a bigoted, delusional melomaniac with a drug problem. I can't see things ever ending good for Germany in any scenario with him in charge.

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Now my question is if someone did this for Castro, Mao, any of the Russian leaders, Che, etc etc of leftist leaders would they have the same reaction?

Also it is history, you learn from history or you are doomed to repeat it. Not talking about him or what he did won't change the past.

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Decoy77 posted...

Now my question is if someone did this for Castro, Mao, any of the Russian leaders, Che, etc etc of leftist leaders would they have the same reaction?

Also it is history, you learn from history or you are doomed to repeat it. Not talking about him or what he did won't change the past.

No. While they may be mass murders, they don't have that racist component for the most part. They were equal opportunity mass murders and no one wants to be singled out for extermination. I certainly wouldn't

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DragonClaw01 posted...

I don't think there is much good in Hitler. Maybe, if you are going waaay back to WW1, you can say he wave a brave and honorable soldier, but as a world leader he was terrible. he was a bigoted, delusional melomaniac with a drug problem. I can't see things ever ending good for Germany in any scenario with him in charge.

I never meany that. Never said things could have gone well ever with him in charge. Just saying I dont like ignoring any positve traits in a person just cause overall they are bad. And yeah politically he was horrible but there surely was more to the man than politics. But anyways I'm done before some misconstrues this as being pro Hitler cause its not in just the kinda guy to ponder things

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So, I'm confused. Did they allow free reign to pick or was there a pre-set list?

Cause if they had a pre-set list than Hitler shouldn't have been on there in the first place and the fault is all the teachers.

But if the list wasn't pre-set the teacher should have at least put a few people down who would be 'unacceptable'. Something like 'no living people, people who committed crimes against humanity, or fictional leaders' as well as asked each student to submit at least a project proposal first. Even something as similar as 'think of who you might want then come to me for approval' would have stopped this before it even began.

I don't think the girl should be punished though. As for the parents, I don't believe the government has the right to investigate/arrest someone just because they believe disgusting things. If they did can we PLEASE add flat-earthers/anti-vaxxers to the list? Not to mention that, considering the internet, she could have easily found a bunch of these views online if she wasn't careful (and, since she's 10...)

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the real question here is why is duckbear purposely misgendering a 10 yo girl?? what exactly is his agenda here?? wake up potd!! start asking the REAL questions!