Poll of the Day > June 1st, are you Vaccinated?

(+) Yeah! (+)

One dose, hope I can get my second dose soon. But Canada is sucking at second doses

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Yes, I got my second dose in April.

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Technically, no.

I got my second shot this past Friday but they told me it takes a couple weeks for the vaccine to work it's magic, so I suppose I'll be fully vaccinated around June 11th or so.

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Jen0125 posted...

Yes, I got my second dose in April.

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Got my second shot a week ago

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First in February, last in March.

No, I don't go outside or interact with people in real life.

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Today is the first day I'm fully vaccinated, it's been 2 weeks since my second shot.

got my first dose of pfizer on may 24th, will get the second in august probably

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Not yet

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/420530/OneShot/

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yeah, I got j&j a week ago

the brain worms have taken root

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Thursday it will have been 1 month since my second dose.

I have to say I'm disappointed. I still haven't turned into a hot bunny dude, nor do I have 5G reception yet. At least I can change the channel on the TV just by blinking.

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I get my first dose on Friday, which was the earliest appointment I could get after they opened them up to my age bracket two weeks ago. Second will be in September.

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open tha doors

Waiting on my second.

no plans for something new.
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Sunday was my two week mark after shot two so I'm fully vaccinated.

I got my 2nd Pfizer shot a month ago

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

yeah, I got j&j a week ago

the brain worms have taken root

I got modded for my Gates/Fauci 2024 topic. The mods are clearly unvaccinated.

yep, first dose. Pfizer man.

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I am indeed fully vaccinated. I am now a genetically modified chimeric homonculus.

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my appointment for 1st shot is tomorrow. pretty stoked to have that semi immunity bro.

Getting my second dose of 5G this weekend. I had a really hard time getting an appointment before because of my work schedule and not having a car.

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My cousin, the professor at UBC, said one of his colleagues was pressured by the university to get vaccinated. She did, and she suffered a seizure immediately afterwards. On the other hand, I havent been sick in almost two years, so I have no plans to take this vaccine at all, no. And yes, I will be able to pass a Covid test to enter countries that are choosing to go the route of vaccine entry.

Just got my second dose a few hours ago

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zebatov posted...

On the other hand, I havent been sick in almost two years, so I have no plans to take this vaccine at all, no.

I'm having trouble following the logic here.

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keyblader1985 posted...

I'm having trouble following the logic here.

Arv sees the logic but you probably cant see why kids love the cinnamon taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch

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keyblader1985 posted...

I'm having trouble following the logic here.

Im not likely to get sick, especially with Covid. So I dont need the vaccine that is stated to not fully protect against it and may cause all kinds of severe reactions.

I got my second pfizer jab at the beginning of May, so fully vaccinated now.

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zebatov posted...

Im not likely to get sick, especially with Covid. So I dont need the vaccine that is stated to not fully protect against it and may cause all kinds of severe reactions.

But that's like saying you don't get in car accidents so you don't need a seatbelt or airbag.

Seatbelts have an annoying side effect of being uncomfortable or restricting your movement. I've only been in one accident (other person was at fault), and it would have been a hell of a lot worse without those precautions.

Not to mention not being sick this past year doesn't really count for much, if you and those around you were following all the proper precautions (distancing, masks and sanitizing). I haven't been sick either, and if I do get covid then the vaccine will minimize the severity.

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I got my first vaccine in early May. I'll be eligible for a second shot in July.

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keyblader1985 posted...

But that's like saying you don't get in car accidents so you don't need a seatbelt or airbag.

That seems like a bad analogy since if you're young (heck or any all other than old) and you're relatively healthy then getting covid isn't actually that big of a deal except in exceptionally rare cases, to the point many have had it and never noticed. I can't think of a situation where you could be in a car accident so minor it had no adverse effects on you or the car.

Remember that the vaccine was orginally pushed not because of the danger covid presented to the average person but because that average person could infect a vulnerable person who might actually get seriously ill or die. Most of those people are vaccinated themselves or still social distancing yeah? In that case what real reason is there for a healthy young person who (say in my case) interacts with few people to spend the time to go get it?

Yes

Bill gates personally kicked down my door while a 5g tower held me down and they injected me with the vaccine.

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keyblader1985 posted...

But that's like saying you don't get in car accidents so you don't need a seatbelt or airbag.

Seatbelts have an annoying side effect of being uncomfortable or restricting your movement. I've only been in one accident (other person was at fault), and it would have been a hell of a lot worse without those precautions.

Not to mention not being sick this past year doesn't really count for much, if you and those around you were following all the proper precautions (distancing, masks and sanitizing). I haven't been sick either, and if I do get covid then the vaccine will minimize the severity.

Seatbelts dont go inside you, and dont cause seizures or death on occasion once applied. Its simply a No. from me.

Reigning_King posted...

That seems like a bad analogy since if you're young (heck or any all other than old) and you're relatively healthy then getting covid isn't actually that big of a deal except in exceptionally rare cases, to the point many have had it and never noticed. I can't think of a situation where you could be in a car accident so minor it had no adverse effects on you or the car.

Remember that the vaccine was orginally pushed not because of the danger covid presented to the average person but because that average person could infect a vulnerable person who might actually get seriously ill or die. Most of those people are vaccinated themselves or still social distancing yeah? In that case what real reason is there for a healthy young person who (say in my case) interacts with few people to spend the time to go get it?

I work as a mover currently, and I move a lot of people into assisted-living homes. Most of them say theyd rather spend their final year(s) with family, and not meant to feel afraid and stuck in a tiny apartment by themselves. Theyre dying alone because the government has decided for them that they need (want) to be protected. Thank God its looking pretty good for summer, but too little too late for those already passed.

My mom got the vaccine and she got blood clots in her legs and lungs. She fell down and broke a vertebrae in her back and can't walk anymore. It's heartbreaking.

Reigning_King posted...

In that case what real reason is there for a healthy young person who (say in my case) interacts with few people to spend the time to go get it?

Because covid can have lasting effects or be deadly even to healthy or young people. For every case of covid that passed without much trouble or a vaccination that went south, there are many more that are the opposite.

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keyblader1985 posted...

Because covid can have lasting effects or be deadly even to healthy or young people. For every case of covid that passed without much trouble or a vaccination that went south, there are many more that are the opposite.

it's rare for it to effect healthy young people
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

it's rare for it to effect healthy young people

Or any healthy people regardless of age.

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Reigning_King posted...

In that case what real reason is there for a healthy young person who (say in my case) interacts with few people to spend the time to go get it?

Because that's such an incredibly trivial effort that virtually any chance of deriving a benefit from it is going to mean it's a good idea to do it. When the cost is that close to zero, you don't need much benefit for the cost-benefit analysis to lean toward doing it.

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keyblader1985 posted...

Because covid can have lasting effects or be deadly even to healthy or young people. For every case of covid that passed without much trouble or a vaccination that went south, there are many more that are the opposite.

I've already acknowledged that in extremely rare cases young and healthy people can be laid low by the virus. People can also roll out of bed and break their necks or be stuck by lightning if they are extremely unlucky, the world is full of potential dangers and death some small and some not so small. My point is that the risk for me personally simply isn't high enough for me to pay it any mind.

I'm going to have to ask for a citation on that second point of yours. Again, people seem to keep forgetting about how this whole thing was presented last year, but one of the biggest concerns were the asymptomatic carriers. That's why testing was pushed so hard because there was a significant chance you would have no idea you even had it when you were "sick". Just that alone, a sickness so mild it isn't apparent you even have it for many, is part of what I mean about not finding it worrying. Beyond that though, it is impossible to know how many people had it and will never know in addition to the numbers we do have which show that even for those who tested positive the recovery rate was extremely high unless you already had one foot in the grave. So the recovery rate is actually higher (probably significantly) than what the CDC reports.

Hell there's a decent chance I actually have had it already myself since my roommate got it (and was 100% fine other losing his sense of taste for about a week).

Looking over some data, not sure how accurate or up to date it is, but it looks like over 90 million Americans have had at least one shot and there've been less than a thousand deaths. Meanwhile, around 34 million people have had covid, with over 600k deaths. Yeah, vaccine scary. Gonna risk something way worse to avoid a much lower risk.

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adjl posted...

Because that's such an incredibly trivial effort that virtually any chance of deriving a benefit from it is going to mean it's a good idea to do it. When the cost is that close to zero, you don't need much benefit for the cost-benefit analysis to lean toward doing it.

I see what you're saying but for me the equation comes out to something like 1% cost from the soreness, fever, trouble sleeping that people talk about commonly and taking time out of my day to go take the shot and schedule the second dose etc.etc. (I'm paying no mind to the conspiracy theory stuff about long term side effects) while the benefit is something like .5% from it possibly preventing an illness that I possibility might get and which possibly might make me feel mildly bad for a few days. The cost is low but at least partly guaranteed while the benefit is practically intangible.

Reigning_King posted...

I see what you're saying but for me the equation comes out to something like 1% cost from the soreness, fever, trouble sleeping that people talk about commonly and taking time out of my day to go take the shot and schedule the second dose etc.etc. (I'm paying no mind to the conspiracy theory stuff about long term side effects) while the benefit is something like .5% from it possibly preventing an illness that I possibility might get and which possibly might make me feel mildly bad for a few days. The cost is low but at least partly guaranteed while the benefit is practically intangible.

That's if you consider "irreversible death" the only outcome, and not long any lasting effects that effect the quality of life.

Reigning_King posted...

I see what you're saying but for me the equation comes out to something like 1% cost from the soreness, fever, trouble sleeping that people talk about commonly and taking time out of my day to go take the shot and schedule the second dose etc.etc. (I'm paying no mind to the conspiracy theory stuff about long term side effects) while the benefit is something like .5% from it possibly preventing an illness that I possibility might get and which possibly might make me feel mildly bad for a few days. The cost is low but at least partly guaranteed while the benefit is practically intangible.

Finding more current stats on fatality rates by age is proving annoyingly difficult (the CDC's got one that compares rates between age brackets, but it lacks absolute numbers), but here are some stats from last year on the subject:

https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid

That's putting the mortality rate at somewhere around 0.1-0.2% for people between 10 and 39. That doesn't sound like very much, but given that that is the risk of outright dying, the low probability is offset by the magnitude of the consequence. To help put that into context, the chance of rolling four ones in a row on a D6 is 0.07%, less than half of that chance. That's very unlikely, but anyone that's spent any decent amount of time playing RNG-based games has seen that happen enough to know that it remains a real possibility.

Are those odds really something you want to risk your life over? When you can improve them 100-fold by taking a couple hours out of the next 2-3 months and feeling icky for a couple days in that period? Especially considering that that's only the risk of death and the risk of hospitalization (reminder that one of the first things ICU Covid patients have to do when they get discharged is learn how to walk again) is quite a bit higher, the risk of long-term effects even higher than that, and the risk of just plain being really unpleasantly sick (far worse than the vaccine's side effects) for a couple weeks much higher than that, that really seems like a no-brainer to me.

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Ehh, I don't want this topic to become all about me so I'll just leave it at "I'll take my chances". I do appreciate the civil discussion though and not being treated like some monster or complete idiot for not getting it.

zebatov posted...

Seatbelts dont go inside you

I take it youve never eaten food or been vaccinated for anything ever?

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I'm in New Zealand, can't get vaccinated just yet
https://i.imgur.com/QqKFxSi.png
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I got both doses.

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Not yet, will be when available

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