Poll of the Day > June 1st, are you Vaccinated?

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DDirtyDastard posted...

My mom got the vaccine and she got blood clots in her legs and lungs. She fell down and broke a vertebrae in her back and can't walk anymore. It's heartbreaking.

That is the vaccine fighting off Covid.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

I take it youve never eaten food or been vaccinated for anything ever?

Idk maybe read my posts in full.

Ill die if I dont eat. I wont die if I dont get injected with fluid from a lab.

No.

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Fully vaccinated since March.

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Nope, still too young, I think people 10 years older than me are currently on call.

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zebatov posted...

injected with fluid from a lab.

you seem very scared because you dont understand things

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Nope, no plans. Just don't see the necessity in adding anything more to my body that hasn't (yes, I get that once it finally happens or is contracted, that it's already well past your point of opportunity) seem to have been necessary. Aside from, or directly correlating with that, I seem to have a very good immune system. I haven't gotten sick or fallen ill with some type of virus in many years.

Then again, I don't get out as much as others lmao, that is also to be taken into consideration

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

you seem very scared because you dont understand things

A common thread among anti-vaxxers.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

you seem very scared because you dont understand things

FLUID!

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Judgmenl posted...

No, I don't go outside or interact with people in real life.

You'd better hope you never have any medical problems that take you to the doctor's office or hospital.

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Reigning_King posted...

That seems like a bad analogy since if you're young (heck or any all other than old) and you're relatively healthy then getting covid isn't actually that big of a deal except in exceptionally rare cases, to the point many have had it and never noticed. I can't think of a situation where you could be in a car accident so minor it had no adverse effects on you or the car.

Remember that the vaccine was orginally pushed not because of the danger covid presented to the average person but because that average person could infect a vulnerable person who might actually get seriously ill or die. Most of those people are vaccinated themselves or still social distancing yeah? In that case what real reason is there for a healthy young person who (say in my case) interacts with few people to spend the time to go get it?

Even if you catch Covid and have a mild reaction you can still mutate the virus and make it deadlier.

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Lonestar2000 posted...

Even if you catch Covid and have a mild reaction you can still mutate the virus and make it deadlier.

There are tons of cases of people having mild symptoms or being asymptomatic that have gotten "post-covid syndrome" such as reduced lung capacity or brain fog.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

you seem very scared because you dont understand things

How I feel about all these people saying they have their first or both.

Ogurisama posted...

brain fog.

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Nope, I am not!

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Just checked, apparantly people (not in high risk groups) from 82 can start making appointments today. So me sometime soon I suppose.

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Not yet, gonna book an appointment soon

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Been fully vaccinated since Jan 11th 2021

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I finally got my first shot yesterday, was expecting to feel really shitty but just vaguely tired with a sore shoulder.

Honestly I would have to answer the poll as g other. I've not got the vax, nor am I antivax, nor do i plan on getting the vax. With such a new vaccine I'm more comfortable waiting until it has had enough time to be tested and gain fda approval. A year is such a short time for a new virus to be discovered and a vaccine to be created and adequately tested. I don't necessarily beleive there is something intentionally nefarious in the vax, but pharma companies are notorious for sometimes having unintended side effects of their product. I have no judgment for those that wish to get the vaccine, but at this point in my life I'm gonna hold off.

hungrymike posted...

With such a new vaccine I'm more comfortable waiting until it has had enough time to be tested and gain fda approval.

Congradulations! You don't need to wait any longer!
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-emergency-use
https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/covid-19-vaccines

They're not going to re-approve it, because they have already approved it.

First shot done, and may I say, this 5G reception is magnificent! I can't wait for the second shot to improve it even more. I hope this never fades, because I don't know how I could ever go back to my pre-antenna life.

hungrymike posted...

With such a new vaccine I'm more comfortable waiting until it has had enough time to be tested and gain fda approval.

It has. All of the typical standards have been met, and the data for that is available if you want to verify it for yourself. It has indeed been a very accelerated timeline compared to how long it usually takes to get a new drug approved, but that timeline isn't because it actually takes that long to complete the necessary studies. Most of that is delays in securing trial funding, finding trial participants, and waiting to have the application processed by the FDA (and other similar agencies). Here, because it's such a high-profile problem, funding's readily available, tons of people have been volunteering for studies, and vaccine candidates have been rushed to the front of the line to cut down on how long approval takes.

Streamline the administrative side of things, and the actual science really doesn't take that long. That's what's happened here.

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Does the FDA have a time machine that allows them to detect any side effects that might not manifest for long periods of time for these particular vaccines by any chance?

Reigning_King posted...

Does the FDA have a time machine that allows them to detect any side effects that might not manifest for long periods of time for these particular vaccines by any chance?

By doing what's called "statistical analysis from previous vaccines", yes they do!

Also, people dont seem to realize the only reason most things take years to be approved is not enough participants in the testing phases.
Covid had people lining up to be test subjects

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shadowsword87 posted...

By doing what's called "statistical analysis from previous vaccines", yes they do!

Except none of the previous vaccines are mRNA type vaccines. This is novel type, never previously used in long term human populations that was rushed through development. One company has already been caught cherry picking data to get approved.

Previous statistics on older vaccines do not apply.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Except none of the previous vaccines are mRNA type vaccines. This is novel type, never previously used in long term human populations that was rushed through development. One company has already been caught cherry picking data to get approved.

Previous statistics on older vaccines do not apply.

There have been mRNA in testing phases for years now. But like i said, not enough participants to get the full green light. But none have had long term effects.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Except none of the previous vaccines are mRNA type vaccines. This is novel type, never previously used in long term human populations that was rushed through development. One company has already been caught cherry picking data to get approved.

Previous statistics on older vaccines do not apply.

And the vaccines that aren't mRNA that are fully available?

Anti-vaxxers are a waste of human life and don't deserve to exist. How can someone be so delusional and fucked up in the head?

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GenericGuy posted...

Anti-vaxxers are a waste of human life and don't deserve to exist. How can someone be so delusional and fucked up in the head?

antivax =/= anti brand new vaccine with no substantial data behind it
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GenericGuy posted...

Anti-vaxxers are a waste of human life and don't deserve to exist. How can someone be so delusional and fucked up in the head?

theyre fearful idiots

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Except none of the previous vaccines are mRNA type vaccines. This is novel type, never previously used in long term human populations that was rushed through development.

Is there reason to believe that these particular mRNA vaccines would have long-term side effects not seen in the three decades of research on the subject?

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adjl posted...

Is there reason to believe that these particular mRNA vaccines would have long-term side effects not seen in the three decades of research on the subject?

No, but it doesnt fit QAnon narrative that its a Biden/Bill Gates conspiracy against them.

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there also isn't a reason to think there couldn't be long term effects, especially since it's applied to something new at a rushed pace
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It's been in testing for 30 years.
How much more testing do you want?

yes, both shots.

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30 years of research without producing a viable vaccine against known pathogens. 1 year after a novel virus emerges, WE GOT IT! Yea right.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

30 years of research without producing a viable vaccine against known pathogens. 1 year after a novel virus emerges, WE GOT IT! Yea right.

A pandemic tends to put things on top of the priority list.

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Krazy_Kirby posted... there also isn't a reason to think there couldn't be long term effects, especially since it's applied to something new at a rushed pace

It's always going to be impossible to prove a negative, especially looking forward like that. You can test something for 40 years and still not be able to say that there's no chance of a 1-in-a-billion problem arising after 41. Instead, you have to rely on predictions made using existing data that can be extrapolated. I can't prove that the apple I ate this morning won't give me cancer in 20 years without actually waiting 20 years, but without a reason to believe that it might, there's no sense worrying about such a baseless possibility.

If it helps, the primary issue researchers have run into with mRNA therapies (including vaccines) in past studies has been an immune response to the foreign RNA. Finding the balance between having too small a dose to have any effect and a dose large enough to trigger a dangerous immune reaction has proven very tricky, but there haven't been any other major negative effects found. That means that, if mRNA vaccines were to have serious negative side effects, they would have emerged almost immediately (due to the immune response). There's been no reason to suspect more long-term issues.

SunWuKung420 posted...

30 years of research without producing a viable vaccine against known pathogens. 1 year after a novel virus emerges, WE GOT IT! Yea right.

There's not a lot of demand for new vaccines against stuff for which vaccines already exist, and as much as mRNA therapies have been being researched since the early 90's, it's only within the last 5-10 years that they've really made significant ground and cemented themselves as a viable option. In this particular case, they also had the added benefit of only needing the genetic sequence of the virus to start working on a vaccine. Covid was fully sequenced by Chinese labs in early January, months before actual virus samples were available to labs around the world, which gave the mRNA candidates a major head start.

mRNA vaccines have been coming for a while. Covid was just the push they needed to get out the door, and given their success, you can expect more to emerge in the years to come.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

theyre fearful idiots

You really love to exemplify your sig, huh?

DDirtyDastard posted...

My mom got the vaccine and she got blood clots in her legs and lungs. She fell down and broke a vertebrae in her back and can't walk anymore. It's heartbreaking.

fake

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G) I've had two doses, but I'm not fully vaccinated yet.

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Magus 10 posted...

G) I've had two doses, but I'm not fully vaccinated yet.

A Shiny Magus appears!

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Soup_or_Science posted...

A Shiny Magus appears!

>.>

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Bump

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Today those from 87 were allowed to start making appointments, so soon...

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First jab planned for 1 July.

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