Board 8 > Board 8 Ranks: The Marvel Cinematic Universe (Phase III!)

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i like fun.

i don't like poop.

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Also from a Top 5 MCU movie according to B8:

Natasha Romanoff: Hey, fellas. Either one of you know where the Smithsonian is? I'm here to pick up a fossil.

Steve Rogers: That's hilarious.

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Rita Repulsa lol are you just picking a random female villain or what. No similarities there whatsoever.

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Also from top 5 MCU film Winter Soldier:

Steve Rogers (to Bucky): Im so happy I have you as my best friend, and I love Natasha so much


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Ragnarok below either Guardians movie is a joke. It's superior to both of them in every regard, from humor to action to emotion.
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I admit I'm surprised at some of the Hela love too. Like, great performance and all, but outside of the sexy hip swivel I don't know that there's much about it that wouldn't also apply to, like, Justin Hammer.

Raka_Putra posted...

Also from a Top 5 MCU movie according to B8:

Do you not take intentionally lame jabs at your friends like this from time to time? Because in my group of friends that's basically our default way of showing affection.

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Lopen posted...

Rita Repulsa lol are you just picking a random female villain or what. No similarities there whatsoever.

lol are you trolling?

cate blanchett's overacting in that movie was fucking ridiculous.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

lol are you trolling?

cate blanchett's overacting in that movie was fucking ridiculous.

If, by ridiculous, you mean amazing. I'd MUCH rather have a villain who hams it up and chews the scenery than the vast majority of phase 1 and 2 villains.

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People like Hela in Thor: Ragnarok compared to most other movies, because she counteracts all of the humor in the movie. It's not so much she's an outstanding villain as it is that she brings stakes to a movie.

Thor: Ragnarok is amazing. Probably my most watched movie and IMO the second mass-appeal movie after GOTG1. I can recommend Thor: Ragnarok to any of my friends and I know it'll be a good time.

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She hams it up but she doesn't do it in a very Rita Repulsa like way at all.

You can have a villain in a silly movie be played completely straight even if they have a layer of schlock on them because that's how the movie operates. That's what she is. And she does it great. Never feels like a joke villain at all.

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Lopen posted...

Never feels like a joke villain at all.

she does to me. she hams it up so much, i found it impossible to take her seriously.

and that's not even my problem - like, it's thor ragnarok. this isn't the kind of movie that needs a super serious villain. i just found her overacting to be super annoying.

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Strong disagree. A villain that isn't super serious would ruin the movie for me. This is why she's a huge contrast from Rita Repulsa who is never a credible threat to begin with.

You need stakes somewhere. That's what she's there for. If she is done in a more boring way you basically get Ronan the Accuser who is such a nothing part of the appeal of GotG. If she is done in a less serious way you get Ultron again. She basically perfectly threads the needle between being serious and having charisma, something only Loki (who is cleanly ahead of Hela as a villain don't get me wrong) and at an extreme stretch Ego have been able to do in the MCU really. Obidiah, Thanos, Vulture, Killmonger and Alexander Pierce work well on the pure serious end but I don't think they fit the tone of Ragnarok well.

She reminds me more of a Chong Li from the Van Damme classic Bloodsport than a Rita Repulsa. Like yes, similarly to Ragnarok, the movie itself is ridiculous and Bolo overacts the hell out of what he's doing, but Chong Li straight up murders people and is not presented as a joke at any point.

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It's got a lot of jokes but I felt like the overall stakes in the film are pretty high overall. Taika blends humor and seriousness very well IMO.

Also Blanchett probably did the best acting job amongst villains in the series, she's definitely the highest talent of the lot (Ok I like Michael B and Redford but yeah) and she probably did more to shed the plot armor than any villain not named Thanos (Killing all of Thor's friends and his dad, making Asgard uninhabitable, and even taking Thor's eye out)

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Finally.

3. Captain America: Civil War
4. Spider-Man: Homecoming
5. Black Panther
6.
7. Spider-Man: Far From Home
8.
9. Doctor Strange
10. Captain Marvel
11. Marvel's The Avengers
12.
13. Ant-Man And The Wasp
14. Thor: Ragnarok
15. Ant-Man
16. Avengers: Age of Ultron
17. Captain America: The First Avenger
18. Thor
19. Iron Man
20. Thor: The Dark World
21. Iron Man 2
22. Iron Man 3
23. The Incredible Hulk

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I like Hela a lot. I don't like the complete "fuck you" to everything and everyone in Asgard.

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TotallyNotMI posted...

I like Hela a lot. I don't like the complete "fuck you" to everything and everyone in Asgard.

I do agree with this to an extent.

XIII's beef of making a joke of Asgard blowing up is my main problem with the movie (but it's just one scene-- I'm not gonna dock it too much for just that) and the only time I feel it really goes too far with not knowing when to turn it off. On the similar note Hela maybe dunked a bit too hard on Asgard too, but eh, I think they played off that well in later movies.

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I kinda get it but as our rankings kinda showed... did that many people really like Asgard as a setting in the MCU?

Guess it comes down to what direction Love and Thunder takes for the true aftermath.

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Thor had been the best Avenger ever since AoU.

The destruction of Asgard was also one of those "we need to reduce a credible resistance to Thanos before Infinity War" things. Especially with Thor having been researching the dude.

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So after skimming these topics i have to ask: is Guardians 2 the most polarizing MCU film? I personally think this top 5 ranking is well deserved and guardians 1 is the overrated flick. But anyway these top choices are all good and correct to be this high, although maybe i disagree on the order

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Metal_DK posted...

So after skimming these topics i have to ask: is Guardians 2 the most polarizing MCU film? I personally think this top 5 ranking is well deserved and guardians 1 is the overrated flick. But anyway these top choices are all good and correct to be this high, although maybe i disagree on the order

Nah, I'd say Iron Man 3 and the Ant Mans/Captain Marvel are probably more polarizing.

Guardians 2 is probably just a vocal minority as its reveal is going to show.

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yeah, to be positive for a change, this is a good top 5 and i'm glad ragnarok finally went out.

ragnarok is just "whatever" to me and even though i was making fun of GotG2 earlier, i actually like the movie. i don't think it's great but i'll take it over ragnarok any day.

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Captain Marvel is polarizing, but rarely in rankings of mcu films from what ive seen. But ya its polarizing for the girl power stuff or what not.

Iron Man 3 is a good choice for polarizing for sure as well due to the Mandarin mostly.

Ant mans i think most agree they are just "there". I dont know too many who put them in the top tiers of MCU films. Maybe im wrong on that though.

Ya maybe Guardians 2 just has a very local minority of complainers.

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VeryInsane posted...

I kinda get it but as our rankings kinda showed... did that many people really like Asgard as a setting in the MCU?

Guess it comes down to what direction Love and Thunder takes for the true aftermath.

As a setting? Eh.

The Warriors Three as characters? They deserved better.

I'm grateful Sif's actor was busy or she probably would have gotten an after thought death scene too.

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You know I rewatched GotG2 a day or two to see if I was too critical my first time. Honestly there's a lot of really good stuff in that movie.

Baby Groot is whatever though and good lord what happened to Drax

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Mac Arrowny posted...

Ragnarok below either Guardians movie is a joke. It's superior to both of them in every regard, from humor to action to emotion.

Yeah okay.

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What in the fuck
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Janus5k posted...

You know I rewatched GotG2 a day or two to see if I was too critical my first time. Honestly there's a lot of really good stuff in that movie.

Baby Groot is whatever though and good lord what happened to Drax

That'll come up in my write-up.

GotG2 was not good on first watch, but that's because it has some bad humor and stupid plotlines. What it does well, it does really well, and it's easier to look past the bad stuff the second time and focus on the good.

It has the single worst bit in the MCU though.

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Someone said previously that Hulk (and General Ross once he came back) went from being Hulk characters to being Avengers characters. I think you could make a similar argument for Thor being changed from a Thor character to a Guardians of the Galaxy character, with Ragnarok getting rid of his setting and most of his supporting cast, and Infinity War finishing off the rest.

I didn't think of including the Samurai Jack trailer mashup in my write-up, so I'll put it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsqqa_-kh8A

Current rankings going into the top 5

1 -
2 -
3 - Black Panther
4 - Batman VS Superman: Dawn of Justice
5 -
6 - Night Monkey: Far From Sony
7 -
8 - Iron Man
9 -
10 - Spider-Man: Homecoming
11 - Captain America: The First Avenger
12 - Ant-Man and the Wasp
13 - Ant-Man
14 - Thor
15 - Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
16 - The Incredible Hulk
17 - Asgardians of the Galaxy
18 - Doctor Strange
19 - Marvel's The Avengers, or Avengers Assemble, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
20 - Iron Man 2
21 - Shazam
22 - Avengers: A Few Days of Ultron, Like, A Week Tops
23 - Thor: The Dark World

If this were DC, Shazam would rank a lot higher, and Batman Vs Superman would rank a lot lower.

At least I should be getting a decent Outlier boost.

1.
2. Captain America: Civil War
3.
4. Spider-Man: Far From Home
5. Ant-Man
6. The Avengers
7. Dr. Strange
8. Thor Ragnarok
9. Iron Man 2
10.
11. Captain America: The First Avenger
12. Black Panther
13. Iron Man
14. Ant-Man and the Wasp
15.
16. The Incredible Hulk
17. Spider-Man: Homecoming
18. Avengers: Age of Ultron
19.
20. Captain Marvel
21. Thor: The Dark World
22. Thor
23. Iron Man 3

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

GotG2 was not good on first watch, but that's because it has some bad humor and stupid plotlines. What it does well, it does really well, and it's easier to look past the bad stuff the second time and focus on the good.

Eh I understand people having that mentality, but it's just not one I can get behind myself. If a certain part is really bad or takes away from the movie too much it's really hard for me to stay invested and that's when a movie really fails for me. But hey that just boils down to preference.

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Inviso posted...

I will say that, regardless of where it places, GotG2 has really livened up this ranking. For the most part, the rest of the list has been mostly "This should go out right about now", followed by that movie going out a within the new few spots. Maybe Iron Man went out a little early for some people, but others were predicting its elimination around the midpoint, and there it was. GotG2 has been predicted since around 19th place and is now in the final 6, so at least it kept things interesting.

I haven't predicted GotG2 a single time yet, but after this post yesterday, I was thinking it was made with a slight fakeout at GotG2 not being the next one, but the one after. So I'm going to guess GotG2 for the first time now, to be 5th place.

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Oh also since this would have been 1

Dark Knight is probably 1 amongst all superhero movies and Days of Future Past/Logan/Spider Verse would probably be in my top five for all Marvel character movies overall, though its been forever since I saw Days of Future Past

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Yeah it's kinda funny I think Marvel movies are on the whole pretty good my overall top 5 super hero movies is probably like

1. The Dark Knight
2. Marvel's The Avengers
3. X-Men Days of Future Past
4. Batman Begins
5. Logan

Or something like that. Most of the ones I really really like aren't from the MCU.

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V for Vendetta
Spider Man: Into the Spider-Verse
X-Men First Class
Big Hero 6
Deadpool 2

All better than everything on this ranking list.

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My top 5 superhero films would be (and also the only 5 in my top 1000 films if I'm not overlooking any):

1. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
2. The Incredibles (if non-comic-based superhero films count)
3. The Dark Knight
4. Black Panther
5. Guardians of the Galaxy

And there's at least a hundred spots between each of those in my all-time top 1000; Into the Spider-Verse goes above and beyond

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1. Joker (if it counts as a superhero movie)
2. The Dark Knight Rises (I know Im the only one who likes it)
3. X-Men: Days of Future Past
4. Batman Begins
5. The Dark Knight

Logan and X2 come close.

yeah, my top 5 would be something like (in no order):

batman begins
x-men: days of future past
logan
deadpool
guardians of the galaxy

and i might switch GotG for the dark knight or x-men: first class, depending on my mood. i love the MCU but to me, the movies are mostly "consistently good." interesting how the x-men series is much better when it comes to putting out REALLY outstanding films imo.

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V for Vendetta
Dredd
The Dark Knight
MCU film yet to be ranked
Deadpool 2

If you count short films Punisher Dirty Laundry would be fifth. Couple of close ones mentioned too!

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I like Dark Knight Rises! Just wish bane didnt job the way he did man that was anticlimactic (but probably the point)

Deadpool 1 and 2 are similar to Guardians 1 and 2 to me. And yeah the worst MCU films are far from the worst ones (Like the Fox Movies are good but they have also put out stinkers looking at you Apocalypse Dark Phoenix and X Men origins Wolverine)

Also if Dredd counts then my list would probably change a bit

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Non-MCU superhero top 5, no order:

Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse
The Dark Knight
X-Men Days of Future Past
Logan
Dredd (If it counts as a superhero movie)

If we want to talk non-superhero comic book movies, The Death of Stalin might be the actual best comic book movie.

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A History of Violence too for non superhero ones

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oh, if v for vendetta counts, take out guardians of the galaxy for that in my top 5.

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Honestly, Dark Knight is the only superhero film outside of the MCU that stands out enough to me to say it'd be in my top five overall.

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Logan
X2
X-Men Days of Future Past
Deadpool
The Dark Knight

I think only like one or two MCU movies would even crack my top 10

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LiquidOshawott posted...

(Like the Fox Movies are good but they have also put out stinkers looking at you Apocalypse Dark Phoenix and X Men origins Wolverine)

yeah, funny how fox has more truly amazing movies than the MCU but there's also nothing in the MCU as terrible as wolverine 1. the fox movies are just all over the place!

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GavsEvans123 posted...

Someone said previously that Hulk (and General Ross once he came back) went from being Hulk characters to being Avengers characters. I think you could make a similar argument for Thor being changed from a Thor character to a Guardians of the Galaxy character, with Ragnarok getting rid of his setting and most of his supporting cast, and Infinity War finishing off the rest.

I didn't think of including the Samurai Jack trailer mashup in my write-up, so I'll put it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsqqa_-kh8A

That's amazing.

Also, non-MCU superhero...

1. Batman Begins
2. The Dark Knight
3. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
4. X-Men: Days of Future Past
5. Deadpool

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

yeah, funny how fox has more truly amazing movies than the MCU but there's also nothing in the MCU as terrible as wolverine 1. the fox movies are just all over the place!

yeah I won't even argue that. The worst X-Men movies are some of the worst all-time superhero movies, but nothing really compares when they're at their best

also I have a soft spot for The Last Stand even though it was terrible

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