Current Events > Gina Carano fired for being a shitstain, not for "Politics" - GAMESPOT

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Ex-Mandalorian actor Gina Carano has made waves for all the wrong reasons. - Mason Downey

Gina Carano has been fired by LucasFilm after yet another "social media scandal," if one can define "social media scandal" as very deliberately posting blatant anti-Semitism on a public account, including a meme comparing experiencing any sort of pushback on her own conservative politics to being Jewish and living in Nazi Germany. These posts were just the latest in a long line of public aggressions, both micro and macro, from Carano, who has had a long history of making deeply inappropriate and downright offensive posts against vulnerable minorities, and then immediately falling into defensive self-victimization: It's not the groups she's mocking or blatantly attacking that are being hurt by her actions, it's her, and actually, the people reacting to her posts in a negative way are the real bullies here.

If this sounds familiar, it should. By now, we all know the words to this song.

It's a pattern we've seen before, time and time again. Even outside of the pop culture bubble, the endless cycle of abusive, abhorrent public behavior and then crocodile tears and feigned ignorance has become an entire "brand" for many people on social media--and it's a lucrative one. This particular style of engagement relies on the tried-and-true bad faith argument wherein a case is made full of blatant and obvious falsehoods and misrepresented facts, dressed up in such a way to bait arguments from people who spot the issues and try to push back against them. The argument then serves as a social megaphone, boosting the falsehoods and deliberately misrepresented facts to bigger and broader audiences, stripping them of context, creating straw men for others to argue against that derail the issue even further. Petitions get made. Youtube videos are filmed. The cycle continues.

Pearl-clutching fans and commentators will cry out about "cancel culture" and "conservative politics" being the root of Carano's excommunication when the reality is that Carano is experiencing the consequence of flagrantly inappropriate public behavior. This isn't a secret, nor is the concept all that difficult to grasp--anyone who's had a job with any sort of public-facing component from minimum wage customer service to actor has had some experience with the idea of expected behavior and conduct to represent an employer. Even high school athletes are subject to consequences for misrepresenting their school's values, and they're not on anyone's payroll.

Carano's firing was the only correct move Disney could have made following her behavior--and it's one that was a long time coming. As much as it would be great to say the corporate juggernaut is actually extremely socially conscious and has a strong moral compass, that simply isn't reality. The bottom line is that having someone on their payroll who is, apparently, ready and willing to disregard any sort of professionalism is a liability, full stop.

But the extremely obvious logic--that maybe, just maybe, a public-facing person shouldn't post memes about the Holocaust (to name just her most recent offense)--doesn't matter. What matters is that from now until the end of time, we're going to keep having this conversation.

The most insidious part of this cycle we seem to be stuck in is the fact that it works. The bad faith argument scheme has a payoff. Carano has already spun her "cancelation" into a movie deal. Countless influencers and politicians have used the same tactics they always use to boost their own platforms and garner themselves a bigger audience by suddenly having a very emotional and passionate response to the loss of a "strong female hero" in the Star Wars universe. The theater of websites like Twitter and Instagram is in full effect, letting the conversation fuel the algorithm which fuels the conversation, and so on and so forth.

And suddenly, it's no longer a simple matter of a hired professional behaving badly and being canned for it, it's an attack on "free speech," a devastating blow against pop culture, a soapbox to stand on to help boost and amplify even more bigotry and hatred.

The only way to win in these scenarios is by not playing. But until then, we'll keep doing this dance, hearing this song, and watching the play performed the same way it's always performed with a rotating cast of characters over and over again.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/opinion-gina-carano-was-fired-for-being-a-bad-employee-not-her-politics/1100-6487566/

Uh huh

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Except it was definitely for politics though, if she were a left wing "shitstain" she wouldn't be fired.

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Lord_Shadow_19 posted...

Except it was definitely for politics though, if she were a left wing "shitstain" she wouldn't be fired.

If she said Democrats were being treated like Jews in Nazi Germany she absolutely would have been fired. She's dumbass piece of shit shitstain and so is anyone who defends her

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Not anti-Semitic, that's a really weird interpretation. Definitely stupid thing to say though

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Lord_Shadow_19 posted...

Except it was definitely for politics though, if she were a left wing "shitstain" she wouldn't be fired.

No, it was for COMPARING HER EXPERIENCES TO JEWS IN NAZI GERMANY. Stop being this way

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sevihaimerej posted...

Not anti-Semitic, that's a really weird interpretation. Definitely stupid thing to say though

Flagrantly anti-Semitic.

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Let's be honest she was fired for both and she deserved it too. Crazy bitch. Enjoy your obscure rightwing media spots for the next year before they get tired of you lmao

Can we stop pretending that Lord Shadow is worth engaging with on any subject?

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ToPoPO posted...

Carano has already spun her "cancelation" into a movie deal.

The author should have led with that.

Carano made controversial remarks that angered a lot of people. She could have kept quiet, but she did not. Disney, being a business, performed damage control to contain the backlash. The author didnt need to rehash it or try to spin it in some way. We already know. Its low hanging fruit. If the writer had framed the results as Carano still being able to profit from her firing, then the author could have emphasized that cancel culture is not always as effective as people think it is.


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It's never politics. It's always money. If her politics are onerous enough that Disney thinks it'll cost them, she gets the boot.

All other perspectives are naivete.

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Didnt the main actor compare 68 million voters to Nazis or KKK.

Are they going to fire him too?

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You guys are just bored

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vigorm0rtis posted...

It's never politics. It's always money. If her politics are onerous enough that Disney thinks it'll cost them, she gets the boot.

All other perspectives are naivete.

This is a fair point. There are conservatives (even some pretty nasty ones) who still get work at Disney, they just don't say something this stupid.

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I personally don't believe what she said what Anti-Semitic and people who keep saying this are really lowering the bar for what is and isn't considered Anti-Semitic. HOWEVER, her comparison was completely in poor taste and absolutely trivializes the atrocities that these individuals faced during the Holocaust, by equating their suffering to someone disagreeing with your shitty politics.

This also isn't out of pocket for Conservatives. This is normal rhetoric due to their need to live in a perpetual state of victimhood.

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Lord_Shadow_19 posted...

Except it was definitely for politics though, if she were a left wing "shitstain" she wouldn't be fired.

Shut the fuck up.

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SolRaiderN7 posted...

I personally don't believe what she said what Anti-Semitic

SolRaiderN7 posted...

absolutely trivializes the atrocities that these individuals faced during the Holocaust

:thinkingemoji:

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ColdOne666 posted...

Didnt the main actor compare 68 million voters to Nazis or KKK.

Are they going to fire him too?

Comparing people to nazis =\= comparing yourself to Jews in nazi Germany being beaten by their neighbors

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SolRaiderN7 posted...

I personally don't believe what she said what Anti-Semitic and people who keep saying this are really lowering the bar for what is and isn't considered Anti-Semitic.

Saying that people disagreeing with you is equivalent to the genocide of millions is absolutely anti-Semitic (and also anti-everyone else the Nazis targeted). You have to be viewing the lives of those people as less than dirt to think that what they went through and what you've dealt with are comparable.

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Shouldn't expect less of Republicans.

> "Says absolutely detestable thing" (Ex. N word, Holocaust denial, condemning or calling for death of a race/religion...etc)
> *Gets cancelled*
> "IT'S BECAUSE I AM REPUBLICAN!"

It's a vicious cycle. If they didn't outright suck as people, who would give a flying rats ass if you are Republican. Stop being a fucking shitstain. Tim Allen, Arnold Schwarzeneggar, Clint Eastwood, Meghan McCain, and others are Republican, and haven't said anything about relating the party to being victimized like the Jewish population was. They haven't been cancelled. Hmm. Go figure!

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RebelElite791 posted...

:thinkingemoji:

The fuck are you thinking about? How does her making an off-hand remark that trivializes their suffering, mean it's Anti-Semitic.

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Panthera posted...

Saying that people disagreeing with you is equivalent to the genocide of millions is absolutely anti-Semitic (and also anti-everyone else the Nazis targeted). You have to be viewing the lives of those people as less than dirt to think that what they went through and what you've dealt with are comparable.

Lmfao, it's not Anti-Semitic, like holy shit, you guys have such a warped view of what is and isn't considered Anti-Semitic.

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They are censoring conservative voices!!!

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Kind of funny when you think about how Walt Disney was also a nazi sympathizer.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/walt-disney/walt-the-quasi-nazi-the-fascist-history-of-disney/

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This article has accumulated more than 100+ upvotes since I posted:

Tons of republicans aren't cancelled. She wasn't fired because she voted Trump or shared conservative views, she said stupid shit. Saying being a republican is like being a jew in Nazi Germany isn't a republican view, it's crazy talk.

Also Joss Whedon is in the process of being cancelled and he isn't a conservative.
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Maybe she should've just shut her mouth.

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ShyOx posted...

Comparing people to nazis =\= comparing yourself to Jews in nazi Germany being beaten by their neighbors

Both are offensive

Wii_Shaker posted...

Kind of funny when you think about how Walt Disney was also a nazi sympathizer.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/walt-disney/walt-the-quasi-nazi-the-fascist-history-of-disney/

Disney has a very questionable past, yet its not like theyre going to rebrand by changing their name or otherwise cancel themselves.

@vigorm0rtis is right. Its not about the politics. This backlash must have threatened their bottom line, especially when you consider Disney needs to build back their park attendance post-Covid and they still have plans for Marvel projects.


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Conflict posted...

Is this a satire account

You're being over the top if you believe this is Anti-Semitic, this isn't Holocaust revision or denial, it's literally a bad take.

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Why not both

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Irony posted...

Why not both

damn I came here to say just this

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Lord_Shadow_19 posted...

Except it was definitely for politics though, if she were a left wing "shitstain" she wouldn't be fired.

The woman who went viral for flipping off Trump lost her job and she wasn't even famous.

I mean, I know you are a gimmick account, but I'm sure there are a few lurkers who might be interested in remembering this. >_>

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Smackems posted...

Uh huh

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Sayoria posted...

Shouldn't expect less of Republicans.

> "Says absolutely detestable thing" (Ex. N word, Holocaust denial, condemning or calling for death of a race/religion...etc)
> *Gets cancelled*
> "IT'S BECAUSE I AM REPUBLICAN!"

It's a vicious cycle. If they didn't outright suck as people, who would give a flying rats ass if you are Republican. Stop being a fucking shitstain. Tim Allen, Arnold Schwarzeneggar, Clint Eastwood, Meghan McCain, and others are Republican, and haven't said anything about relating the party to being victimized like the Jewish population was. They haven't been cancelled. Hmm. Go figure!

You're wrong! It's THE LEFT and LIBERALS with their CANCEL CULTURE! They cancelled donald trump as a host of the beloved reality television program The Apprentice/Celebrity Apprentice and that was just the beginning! Do you think they would ever allow another conservative like... let's say hypothetically Arnold host the program? Of course not! Never in a trillion years would they allow that!

Arnold was a much better host imo. I liked how he said "you're terminated" instead of you're fired and also "get to da choppah" to indicate that an eliminated contestant would get a helicopter ride upon departure instead of a taxi... plus he didn't have boardroom meltdowns like donald did, such as when donald got butthurt over a dude using the expression "white trash" even though the dude who said it used it as a self-deprecating joke, not an insult to trump or anyone else.
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*checks in*

had shadow 19 broken down already and blocked a bunch of people like every time he gets his ass handed to him?

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They fired a strong woman who isnt afraid to speak her mind

the patriarchy at work

SolRaiderN7 posted...

You're being over the top if you believe this is Anti-Semitic, this isn't Holocaust revision or denial, it's literally a bad take.

It trivialises the horror of the holocaust and the persecution that the Jews went though up to that point and throughout the holocaust. It'd be like a white conservative comparing persecution against qanon horseshit - banning accounts, getting exposed online for calling Hillary Clinton and Tom Hanks child-killing pedophiles - to slavery.

It shows a callous disregard for the ugly reality of those historical events, and a truly disgusting inflation of one's ego to compare their life experiences to the horror that millions of people actually went through. It completely downplays what those people went though, and inflates what they're going through, which does the victims of the original event a serious disservice.

I think that's closer to anti-semitism than it isn't. The same way that comparing getting cancelled on Twitter to slavery is closer to racism than it isn't.

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It's illegal to fire someone because of creed (yes, this includes Scott Stapp), so "She's an ass!" is the closest you can get.

ToPoPO posted...

This article has accumulated more than 100+ upvotes since I posted:

You can't take Gamestop upvotes seriously when comments are disabled, as that's roughly where the "Comments" button would usually be.
"Oh man this is gonna be good" means "accidental upvote".

Hey, if she wants to hold "I think people disagreeing with things I say is the same as the prelude to millions of Jews being murdered by Nazi Germany" as a political view, I'll be happy to discrminate against her political view.
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I think it was a shit take and she absolutely deserved to be fired (especially if she was told to stop by Disney beforehand)

I'm a bit hesitant to call this anti-sematic

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ZMythos posted...

I think it was a shit take and she absolutely deserved to be fired (especially if she was told to stop by Disney beforehand)

Vince McMahon may actually have the right idea here.

ShyOx posted...

No, it was for COMPARING HER EXPERIENCES TO JEWS IN NAZI GERMANY. Stop being this way

It's because she's conservative, her dumb post was just the justification they used to get her axed.

MrMallard posted...

It trivialises the horror of the holocaust and the persecution that the Jews went though up to that point and throughout the holocaust. It'd be like a white conservative comparing persecution against qanon horseshit - banning accounts, getting exposed online for calling Hillary Clinton and Tom Hanks child-killing pedophiles - to slavery.

It shows a callous disregard for the ugly reality of those historical events, and a truly disgusting inflation of one's ego to compare their life experiences to the horror that millions of people actually went through. It completely downplays what those people went though, and inflates what they're going through, which does the victims of the original event a serious disservice.

I think that's closer to anti-semitism than it isn't. The same way that comparing getting cancelled on Twitter to slavery is closer to racism than it isn't.

Nah

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Lord_Shadow_19 posted...

It's because she's conservative, her dumb post was just the justification they used to get her axed.

So what you're saying is that they wanted to fire her for her belief, but they didn't do it, they fired her for her shitty action.

So you should have no issue here.
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I think my favorite part of the article was the fact that, unlike most "news" articles on Gamespot, that one had no comment section open. I don't care much for "news" articles that talk down to their readers and tell them what truth is either. I think Gina Carano's tweets range from cringe to abhorrent, but the article was still shit.

DeadBankerDream posted...

So what you're saying is that they wanted to fire her for her belief, but they didn't do it, they fired her for her shitty action.

So you should have no issue here.

Why did you think this disingenuous crap would work, I'm actually insulted by this amateur shit.

No. I think people wanted to fire her for being a conservative but knew that Disney isn't quite as crazy as the Twitter echochamber, but managed to convince them to fire her for some of her outlandish tweets THAT WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN HER FIRED IF SHE WERE LIBERAL.

James Gunn for example had a whole bunch of crazy pedo shit on his Twitter that any conservative would have been fired and blacklisted for, but since he is liberal, he was given a second chance.

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Lord_Shadow_19 posted...

James Gunn for example had a whole bunch of crazy pedo shit on his Twitter that any conservative would have been fired and blacklisted for, but since he is liberal, he was given a second chance.

The difference here, is that Gunn is actually good at his job.

James Gunn made crass jokes. Gina Carano compared people finding her political positions gross to genocide.

Or was she making a joke about the holocaust?
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